NCAA Basketball: All Winter/Spring Championships Cancelled

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edited March 12 in Debate and/or Discourse
Discuss college basketball here!
Ringo wrote:

We're a small thread that took six years to get 100 pages, but still! Come join us!

(The last time I made an effort OP for this thread, Michigan went into a massive tailspin and only recovered when I deleted it, so I am not making that mistake again)

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  • RingoRingo HE KEEPS REPEATING THE LINE I'M GONNA CRY BLEASE LET HIM LIVE YOU MADE ME WATCH SO MUCH KISSING IN THIS FILM LET INIGO LIVERegistered User regular
    If I had known there was an OP jinx, I would've told @bobble to do it :wonk:

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  • enlightenedbumenlightenedbum Registered User regular
    edited March 2019
    I made the previous thread, I think, the week before Michigan lost to previously winless in conference Penn State. This was during the Trey Burke national runner up year.

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  • lazegamerlazegamer Registered User regular
    In non-tourney news, rumors are Wake Forest buys out Danny Manning tomorrow after the board of trustees meets. They pursued Shaka Smart, but it looks like Texas will keep him another year.

    Surprise.
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  • BobbleBobble Registered User regular
    Ringo wrote: »
    If I had known there was an OP jinx, I would've told @bobble to do it :wonk:

    Rude.

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  • enlightenedbumenlightenedbum Registered User regular
    I settled on Tennessee in the South, but not before taking a long, hard look at Cinci and Nova.

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  • RingoRingo HE KEEPS REPEATING THE LINE I'M GONNA CRY BLEASE LET HIM LIVE YOU MADE ME WATCH SO MUCH KISSING IN THIS FILM LET INIGO LIVERegistered User regular
    So I'm looking at the NCAA's team sheets

    UNC-Greensboro got screwed

    They beat every team they were supposed to beat. They have zero losses outside of Quad 1. And of their Quad 1 losses (they were 2-6), only one was to a non-tourney team (Furman). The others were 2 seed Kentucky, 3 seed LSU and 7 seed Wofford (three times). No other losses.

    Let's compare to Pac12 Regular Season Champion, Washington. 2-4 in Quad 1, losing to 1 seed Gonzaga, 4 seed Va Tech, 5 seed Auburn, and 11 seed Arizona State. Three losses to Quad 2, 10 seed Minnesota and 12 seed Oregon (twice). Plus one Quad 3 loss to California. The only tournament team Washington beat in their entire season was Oregon. The only real difference between the records here is that UNC-G only played two Quad 2 games total. Whereas Washington played 11 total Quad 2 games and lost three of them. Is Washington's one win over Oregon really worth that much? Given that, if Oregon had not beaten Washington by 20 points in the Pac12 Title Game, Oregon wouldn't even be a tourney team?

    And now let's look at Arizona State:

    First off, Arizona State just plain has a worse NET ranking (63 to UNC-G's 60). But they went 3-3 in Quad 1 games, actually managing to beat three tourney teams, 4 seed Kansas, 5 seed Mississippi State, 8 seed Utah State and only one Quad 1 loss to a non-tourney team (Colorado). Looks pretty good so far! But then they went 8-3 in Quad 2, beating two tourney teams (Oregon, Washington) and losing to two non-tourney teams (Stanford, USC). And then they lost two Quad 3 games. And two more Quad 4 games just for good measure. Does beating three tourney teams outweigh losing to seven(!) non-tourney teams?

    But hey, UNC-G does have that non-tourney loss to Furman. That's got to be a black mark, right?

    Well, let's look at Furman! Their NET ranking is 41, better than at-large teams Syracuse (42), Iowa (43), and Washington (45). They went 1-5 in Quad 1, their lone win against Big East Champs and 6 seed Villanova at Villanova. Their Quad 1 losses are Wofford, UNC-G, LSU, and ETSU, so two tourney teams and two non tourney teams. They went 3-1 in Quad 2, with another loss to UNC-G and 2-1 in Quad 3 with a home loss to Samford. Strangely enough, Furman has a Quad 4 victory over a tournament team - 16 seeded Gardner-Webb (eventual destroyers of Virginia, just you watch)

    So what does it all boil down too?

    TL;DR Washington and Arizona benefited from the fact that their league was overvalued, giving them both a bevy of mediocre Quad 2 wins, that UNC-Greensboro could have never picked up due to the relative strength of their league. UNC-G won the games they should have won, and neither Washington or ASU can say the same.

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  • Trajan45Trajan45 Registered User regular
    edited March 2019
    MSU gets screwed. Not only robbed of a 1 seed but gets thrown in the East with Duke. If we're to be a 2 seed, at least don't put us with fucking Duke. Were something like 1 and 12 vs Duke. Also 3 ACC teams as 1 seeds?

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  • PiotyrPiotyr Registered User regular
    This is going to be the first bracket where I put the 1 and 2 seeds all through to the elite 8.

  • TraceTrace GNU Terry Pratchett; GNU Gus; GNU Carrie Fisher; GNU Adam We Registered User regular
    Syracuse is going on a run this year so don't @ me when the Orange ruin your bracket.

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  • CogCog Registered User regular
    Is Ohio State any good, or..? I haven't paid much attention this year. We're obviously playing pretty hot off the B12 tournament, but I don't know what to expect from tOSU.

  • IncindiumIncindium Registered User regular
    Ohio State isn't that good.

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  • CogCog Registered User regular
    I'm mildly reassured. We can play with anyone, if we show up. We're just so weirdly inconsistent. At least we seem to be firing on all cylinders right now.

  • RickRudeRickRude Registered User regular
    Time to care about college basketball again

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  • Captain InertiaCaptain Inertia Registered User regular
    OSU has no business being in the tournament this year

    They had a “great” non conference record but it turned out all those teams they beat were a turd buffet

    I’m not even sure they went .500 in conference and they have a loss vs Rutgers

    Don’t pick them

  • VeeveeVeevee WisconsinRegistered User regular
    edited March 2019
    RickRude wrote: »
    Time to care about college basketball again

    I didn't watch a single game of basketball all season, so I went and filled out a bracket.

    Ended up with Michigan as the only non-number 1 in the final 4, and have them winning it all.

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  • enlightenedbumenlightenedbum Registered User regular
    Veevee wrote: »
    RickRude wrote: »
    Time to care about college basketball again

    I didn't watch a single game of basketball all season, so I went and filled out a bracket.

    Ended up with Michigan as the only non-number 1 in the final 4, and have them winning it all.

    Yeah, um, no. We have six functional players and are utterly lost if we run into a mobile center who can switch onto our guards. Also we can't shoot. Won a ton of games because we defend like motherfuckers, but against elite talent that has figured out what to do we're probably screwed.

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  • EddyEddy Gengar the Bittersweet Registered User regular
    I just discovered this gif of zion

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    Holy moly

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  • RingoRingo HE KEEPS REPEATING THE LINE I'M GONNA CRY BLEASE LET HIM LIVE YOU MADE ME WATCH SO MUCH KISSING IN THIS FILM LET INIGO LIVERegistered User regular
    Yeah, he's absolutely amazing

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  • Captain InertiaCaptain Inertia Registered User regular
    Oh man what happens if Wisconsin and Virginia end up playing in the S16

    What’s the record for fewest possessions in a modern college game?

  • RingoRingo HE KEEPS REPEATING THE LINE I'M GONNA CRY BLEASE LET HIM LIVE YOU MADE ME WATCH SO MUCH KISSING IN THIS FILM LET INIGO LIVERegistered User regular
    Oh man what happens if Wisconsin and Virginia end up playing in the S16

    What’s the record for fewest possessions in a modern college game?

    Wisconsin would win that one.... somehow
    Badgerball takes its due

    Its stupid, stupid due

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  • BobbleBobble Registered User regular
    Trace wrote: »

    *quietly erases Syracuse upset from bracket*

  • TraceTrace GNU Terry Pratchett; GNU Gus; GNU Carrie Fisher; GNU Adam We Registered User regular
    Howard is way more of a problem than he is a solution to anything so we're not doomed yet but I hope he's happy that he potentially already played his last game.

    Good riddance I say. Howard's been nothing but a bad attitude.

  • visiblehowlvisiblehowl He/Him Neutron Nerd Registered User regular
    IT BEGINS

    I'm looking forward to seeing people's brackets.

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  • TTODewbackTTODewback Puts the drawl in ya'll I think I'm in HellRegistered User regular
    edited March 2019
    Barry's picks are in. https://www.obama.org/wp-content/uploads/BO-NCAA-Mens-Bracket-2019-1.png
    Similar to mine but I have Michigan St. upsetting Duke then losing to Michigan and UNC winning it.

    edit:
    ALSO IT ME GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR ITTY

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  • RingoRingo HE KEEPS REPEATING THE LINE I'M GONNA CRY BLEASE LET HIM LIVE YOU MADE ME WATCH SO MUCH KISSING IN THIS FILM LET INIGO LIVERegistered User regular
    Belmont and Bradley both blew it

    Bummer

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  • enlightenedbumenlightenedbum Registered User regular
    Ringo wrote: »
    Belmont and Bradley both blew it

    Bummer

    NMSU too, after Auburn pulled a Bruce Pearl special.

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  • visiblehowlvisiblehowl He/Him Neutron Nerd Registered User regular
    Well my Northeastern over Kansas upset pick looks real stupid now.

    I think Auburn can beat 'em though.

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  • RingoRingo HE KEEPS REPEATING THE LINE I'M GONNA CRY BLEASE LET HIM LIVE YOU MADE ME WATCH SO MUCH KISSING IN THIS FILM LET INIGO LIVERegistered User regular
    Yyyyyyup, was pretty sure Nevada was untrustworthy

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  • enlightenedbumenlightenedbum Registered User regular
    Naturally, Michigan is going to tip at 9:43 Eastern on the night before the last day of the marking period.

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  • knitdanknitdan Registered User regular
    People on the radio kept talking about Fairleigh Dickenson and all day my thought was “must be the notable player on whichever team is playing Gonzaga”

    Nope, it’s the school

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  • MagellMagell Sphinx! Parts UnknownRegistered User regular
  • enlightenedbumenlightenedbum Registered User regular
    Magell wrote: »
    Xavier Simpson's last hookshot was disgusting. I love it.

    The ones he hit in the Maryland game Kevin Harlan was referencing were amazing, because he was shooting them over a 6'11" shot blocker and basically hitting the top of the backboard.

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  • TraceTrace GNU Terry Pratchett; GNU Gus; GNU Carrie Fisher; GNU Adam We Registered User regular
    Well fuck.

    You guys have fun with the rest of the tournament.

    I'm rooting for Duke now.

  • knitdanknitdan Registered User regular
    I’m shocked, SHOCKED to discover Tom Izzo is a belligerent asshole

    Imagine how he acts when there aren’t any cameras on him

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  • Trajan45Trajan45 Registered User regular
    edited March 2019
    I'm shocked, SHOCKED, that this is even news. Every coach yells at their players. You can debate if it works or is appropriate or or not, but for ESPN and others to single out Izzo is stupid.

    At least he's not Coach K: Mother of former Duke player says Coach K shouted at her, making her cry.

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  • VeeveeVeevee WisconsinRegistered User regular
    edited March 2019
    Yesterday let me have hope that my brackets were good, today comes the crash and burn

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  • visiblehowlvisiblehowl He/Him Neutron Nerd Registered User regular
    I missed a bunch of the Day 1 games, but none of the teams I have making it out of the first weekend lost, so I'm still in pretty good shape I think.

    In other news, I'm a bit worried about facing Wofford without PJ Washington, but hopefully keeping him out of this game will help him recover better by next weekend if we win. A PJ-less Kentucky team doesn't have much chance of making it out of Kansas City.

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  • enlightenedbumenlightenedbum Registered User regular
    Trajan45 wrote: »
    I'm shocked, SHOCKED, that this is even news. Every coach yells at their players. You can debate if it works or is appropriate or or not, but for ESPN and others to single out Izzo is stupid.

    At least he's not Coach K: Mother of former Duke player says Coach K shouted at her, making her cry.

    He's still a whiny asshole, and deflecting by pointing out how shitty ESPN is is beneath you. Also Appling and Payne.

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  • PiotyrPiotyr Registered User regular
    Kansas State and Irvine somehow tied at the half, so could be an upset special brewing.

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