I have so many games that I spent 30 minutes and promptly forget I own. Who cares if I can’t pmay it 20 years from now.
Opposite side of the coin: some of us have semi regular games we've been playing for years and it would absolutely suck if something like Path of Exile or EVE got hosted by Stadia and they shut the shit down in a year.
I think Google’s success or failure might just wind up as a footnote to the trend. MS and Sony want this too.
MS maybe, given that a few years ago they tried the "you need to be online" thing and then it blew up in their face. Sony I don't suspect as such. I'd say we'll find out at E3 but Sony isn't showing up and I dunno if Microsoft is going to do a hardware announcement.
But for sure next console gen, yeah, we'll find out what the new trend is. God help us all.
It’s weird, but Sony’s quietly been putting in the legwork on this for a good while. PS Now launched at the beginning of 2014. They also announced some partnership on streaming technology with MS recently that suggests they at least want to keep their options open.
Game ownership won’t go away this generation, but I have a feeling this might be a bridge to something closer to what Stadia is offering.
The crazy thing is that this feels shocking and abrupt despite the idea being in the works and publicly available in some form for almost a decade. PS Now was building off older Gaikai stuff from like 2011, and OnLive preceded that by a year or two. And the tech has slowly gotten better while internet connections have generally (if geographically unequally) improved.
I have no idea if this is going to be a “good” thing, but it seems inevitable so long as it is technologically possible.
I imagine the latency on this wouldn't be a problem for most of the games I enjoy, like turn-based RPGs.
Am I right in assuming that the subscription is kind of like PS+ where you get games to play every month? And there will be non-subscription games you have to buy? I don't find anything inherently offensive about that model.
My only concern is about what happens if Google drops the Stadia service, can I download my games? This is the same problem that other platforms have with digital copies though, it's not unique to Stadia.
I'm very confident that if Google drops the Stadia service, they'll offer redemption codes for other platforms for the games you fully own (not the free Pro ones). This has happened before with at least one other game marketplace IIRC, I forget the name.
I didn't get anything when OnLive shut down!
Desura did let you download installers. No Steam keys or access to patches, though.
The point is that with one system YOU are in control of your situation while with the other you have no control whatsoever. The lights might not shut off in 20 years. They might shut off in 20 days right as you were really getting to the good part of the latest big hit. Lights go off and you're screwed while Johny down the street who both has a copy of the game and the hardware to play it himself could care less if his digital distributor packs up shop and closes for good AFTER delivering the goods to him.
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The EULA for Stadia is already up; I'm not a law-dog but it reads like any other EULA I've glanced at: "You license this, don't own that, we can change this. . ." etc. Someone more up on the lingo will have to specify how this is any different than similar services (other than being tied to Stadia existing of course).
I mean, this says it all:
"...nothing in this EULA gives you any rights in respect of any intellectual property owned by us or our licensors and you acknowledge that you do not acquire any ownership rights by downloading any Application or Download or any content from any Application or Download."
So if it goes away, tough shit, they don't owe you anything.
Right. Like any other subscription based service where the content is tied to the platform. Stadia is priced accordingly (at least the hardware). I'd like to see what these price discounts are and how expansive that free library is, but right now it's hard to get crippled by "what ifs" on a 130 dollar buy-in to possibly play Cyberpunk 2077 on my lunch and other breaks.
. . .also there is still a ton of details outstanding (which is both good and bad) between now and fall.
Don't digital downloads on Xbox or PS4 work the same way? This just doesn't have the option for physical media.
As someone who owns a PS4 but doesn't have any actual physical discs, I view this as the same thing I'm already doing. If I decide to throw away my PS4, I don't have those games anymore.
Only if you lose access to your account. In terms of having access, you'd just have to download the the software if you suspected SONY was going out of business. Don't need an internet connection for titles you own.
It's not just 130 though. It's 130 + 10 bucks a months + buying be the game. That's kind of a shit deal if the games are more than like $5
I have so many games that I spent 30 minutes and promptly forget I own. Who cares if I can’t pmay it 20 years from now.
Opposite side of the coin: some of us have semi regular games we've been playing for years and it would absolutely suck if something like Path of Exile or EVE got hosted by Stadia and they shut the shit down in a year.
Will it be any better when PoE and EVE shut themselves down?
If you're playing any live service game, you've already ceded ownership. Whether the graphics are rendered remotely or locally, or you have a physical disc or rely on the cloud, the company holds all the cards. At least that's what I thought we were talking about.
It's been pointed out a lot but keeps falling on deaf ears. Many's voices have become tired and have given up trying to warn people and are instead stocking up popcorn and reserving front row seats to see stadia join its destined place alongside OnLive.
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I have so many games that I spent 30 minutes and promptly forget I own. Who cares if I can’t pmay it 20 years from now.
Opposite side of the coin: some of us have semi regular games we've been playing for years and it would absolutely suck if something like Path of Exile or EVE got hosted by Stadia and they shut the shit down in a year.
Will it be any better when PoE and EVE shut themselves down?
Yes, and the reason is it will be because the game had run its natural course and is no longer profitable for the company and most of the playerbase has abandoned. Still sad, but something that is inevitable.
If Google decides that Stadia ain't worth it in 3 months when the games-as-a-service are still going live, they've just made the decision for everyone else that they don't get to play it any more. And Google has been known to ditch shit even when it's working pretty well.
I don't see people lamenting that mods are basically nonexistent for this very much. That's a bummer and certainly one thing for the negative column.
Because in most cases they aren't actually that widespread and popular. Its a thing for a minority of players on the minority (PC) platform, whose few AAA exclusives are always online games anyway.
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I don't see people lamenting that mods are basically nonexistent for this very much. That's a bummer and certainly one thing for the negative column.
Because in most cases they aren't actually that widespread and popular. Its a thing for a minority of players on the minority (PC) platform, whose few AAA exclusives are always online games anyway.
It's popular enough that Steam put them in and several people have full time jobs running Nexus.
I don't see people lamenting that mods are basically nonexistent for this very much. That's a bummer and certainly one thing for the negative column.
Because in most cases they aren't actually that widespread and popular. Its a thing for a minority of players on the minority (PC) platform, whose few AAA exclusives are always online games anyway.
It's popular enough that Steam put them in and several people have full time jobs running Nexus.
That's a real impressive stat next to the billions of game sales on completely locked down platforms.
Stadia is supposed to be a console replacement in the first place. Its signature hardware is a console controller. That audience is already used to having next to zero mod options.
It's not just 130 though. It's 130 + 10 bucks a months + buying be the game. That's kind of a shit deal if the games are more than like $5
Not to someone who doesn't have a high end PC setup and wants to do high end PC gaming. From their couch.
Like I get the reservations that are borne out of the "What If" scenarios, but the ability to do 1080P/60FPS gaming with nothing more than a controller and Chromecast isn't anything to sneeze at and I'm honestly shocked at the handwringing in this thread. The OnLive comparisons are a little suspect as well; oftentimes technology doesn't get it right the first time. Can you imagine if everyone took Pets.com to heart as THE expected outcome of e-commerce?
I have so many games that I spent 30 minutes and promptly forget I own. Who cares if I can’t pmay it 20 years from now.
Opposite side of the coin: some of us have semi regular games we've been playing for years and it would absolutely suck if something like Path of Exile or EVE got hosted by Stadia and they shut the shit down in a year.
Will it be any better when PoE and EVE shut themselves down?
Yes, and the reason is it will be because the game had run its natural course and is no longer profitable for the company and most of the playerbase has abandoned. Still sad, but something that is inevitable.
If Google decides that Stadia ain't worth it in 3 months when the games-as-a-service are still going live, they've just made the decision for everyone else that they don't get to play it any more. And Google has been known to ditch shit even when it's working pretty well.
I think the folks who are feeling anxious about Stadia opening the seventh seal and ushering in the destruction of video games can probably take some comfort and reassurance from the folks who are certain that Stadia will stumble and fall the minute it's out the gate.
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I have so many games that I spent 30 minutes and promptly forget I own. Who cares if I can’t pmay it 20 years from now.
Opposite side of the coin: some of us have semi regular games we've been playing for years and it would absolutely suck if something like Path of Exile or EVE got hosted by Stadia and they shut the shit down in a year.
Will it be any better when PoE and EVE shut themselves down?
Yes, and the reason is it will be because the game had run its natural course and is no longer profitable for the company and most of the playerbase has abandoned. Still sad, but something that is inevitable.
If Google decides that Stadia ain't worth it in 3 months when the games-as-a-service are still going live, they've just made the decision for everyone else that they don't get to play it any more. And Google has been known to ditch shit even when it's working pretty well.
Even with a 1TB data plan (which is what I have from Comcast), that's 65 hours of streaming per month at 4K. And that's assuming I don't do anything else on the internet. At 1080p60, it comes to 113 hours of streaming per month, assuming no other data usage.
I have so many games that I spent 30 minutes and promptly forget I own. Who cares if I can’t pmay it 20 years from now.
Opposite side of the coin: some of us have semi regular games we've been playing for years and it would absolutely suck if something like Path of Exile or EVE got hosted by Stadia and they shut the shit down in a year.
Will it be any better when PoE and EVE shut themselves down?
Yes, and the reason is it will be because the game had run its natural course and is no longer profitable for the company and most of the playerbase has abandoned. Still sad, but something that is inevitable.
If Google decides that Stadia ain't worth it in 3 months when the games-as-a-service are still going live, they've just made the decision for everyone else that they don't get to play it any more. And Google has been known to ditch shit even when it's working pretty well.
What has Google ditched that was going well?
Google+ , Orkut, Hangouts, and Reader?
Google+ was not doing well. Google Hangouts still exists from a quick search, I've never used it though. Never heard of the others, though, thanks.
I think the folks who are feeling anxious about Stadia opening the seventh seal and ushering in the destruction of video games can probably take some comfort and reassurance from the folks who are certain that Stadia will stumble and fall the minute it's out the gate.
I think that the most likely scenario is potentially the one which is worst for consumers - that Stadia works well enough for most people that it lasts for a decent while. It doesn't work well enough for fighting games, but people can play Assassin's Creed, Tomb Raider, and other AAA action-adventure type games. But, it doesn't do well enough that it takes over the gaming industry. It makes some money, but either not a breakout amount, or not enough to justify all the investment google put into it. So, within 2-4 years, stadia is cancelled, once people have started buying into the platform.
I don't see people lamenting that mods are basically nonexistent for this very much. That's a bummer and certainly one thing for the negative column.
Because in most cases they aren't actually that widespread and popular. Its a thing for a minority of players on the minority (PC) platform, whose few AAA exclusives are always online games anyway.
It's popular enough that Steam put them in and several people have full time jobs running Nexus.
That's a real impressive stat next to the billions of game sales on completely locked down platforms.
Stadia is supposed to be a console replacement in the first place. Its signature hardware is a console controller. That audience is already used to having next to zero mod options.
Skyrim added mod support on consoles! Mods are a good thing and we should be moving towards having more options for them, not less!
I don't see people lamenting that mods are basically nonexistent for this very much. That's a bummer and certainly one thing for the negative column.
Because in most cases they aren't actually that widespread and popular. Its a thing for a minority of players on the minority (PC) platform, whose few AAA exclusives are always online games anyway.
It's popular enough that Steam put them in and several people have full time jobs running Nexus.
That's a real impressive stat next to the billions of game sales on completely locked down platforms.
Stadia is supposed to be a console replacement in the first place. Its signature hardware is a console controller. That audience is already used to having next to zero mod options.
Skyrim added mod support on consoles! Mods are a good thing and we should be moving towards having more options for them, not less!
Well, Xbox One anyway...the Bethesda modding scene on Playstation 4 has had a really rough ride, but I think they've righted the ship by now.
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I have so many games that I spent 30 minutes and promptly forget I own. Who cares if I can’t pmay it 20 years from now.
Opposite side of the coin: some of us have semi regular games we've been playing for years and it would absolutely suck if something like Path of Exile or EVE got hosted by Stadia and they shut the shit down in a year.
Will it be any better when PoE and EVE shut themselves down?
Yes, and the reason is it will be because the game had run its natural course and is no longer profitable for the company and most of the playerbase has abandoned. Still sad, but something that is inevitable.
If Google decides that Stadia ain't worth it in 3 months when the games-as-a-service are still going live, they've just made the decision for everyone else that they don't get to play it any more. And Google has been known to ditch shit even when it's working pretty well.
What has Google ditched that was going well?
Google+ , Orkut, Hangouts, and Reader?
Google+ was not doing well. Google Hangouts still exists from a quick search, I've never used it though. Never heard of the others, though, thanks.
Google+ was actually doing ok, but they had a data breach and just killed it. I'm fairly certain they killed all the streaming features in Hangouts. Orkut was apparently really big outside the US.
What genre's are good for this versus what are bad for it? And which are popular on console versus PC (bearing in mind this seems aimed at console fans).
Like, it appeals to me for games like X-com, Civilization....turn based stuff. It's immediately a laughing stock (to me) when I consider games like Street Fighter or, potentially, even FPS.
There's weird edge cases. I actually used a Vita to remote play my PS4 while at work so I could farm the Loot Cave in Destiny 1. I only did it for a day or two and mostly as a lark / to use the Vita, but it was "neat".
I have no idea how well a Platinum Games game would run given the physics problem of distance and lag.
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What genre's are good for this versus what are bad for it? And which are popular on console versus PC (bearing in mind this seems aimed at console fans).
Like, it appeals to me for games like X-com, Civilization....turn based stuff. It's immediately a laughing stock (to me) when I consider games like Street Fighter or, potentially, even FPS.
There's weird edge cases. I actually used a Vita to remote play my PS4 while at work so I could farm the Loot Cave in Destiny 1. I only did it for a day or two and mostly as a lark / to use the Vita, but it was "neat".
I have no idea how well a Platinum Games game would run given the physics problem of distance and lag.
Anything requiring really precise controls, your Soulslikes, your indie platformers/roguelikes, most FPS's, sports titles, etc.
The more I think about it, the more this thing reminds me of the PSP Go. Remember that? The PSP without the disk drive?
The PSP Go was on the leading edge of a gaming trend that would soon explode in popularity (smartphones without physical media), but it didn't have the games that would appeal to that trend and it annoyed traditional gamers who didn't want to move on.
Stadia seems to be doing the exact same thing. Streaming gaming potentially has the potential to boom, but I suspect the people who will eventually embrace that are more casual gamers. Nothing about Stadia's games are casual.
What genre's are good for this versus what are bad for it? And which are popular on console versus PC (bearing in mind this seems aimed at console fans).
Like, it appeals to me for games like X-com, Civilization....turn based stuff. It's immediately a laughing stock (to me) when I consider games like Street Fighter or, potentially, even FPS.
There's weird edge cases. I actually used a Vita to remote play my PS4 while at work so I could farm the Loot Cave in Destiny 1. I only did it for a day or two and mostly as a lark / to use the Vita, but it was "neat".
I have no idea how well a Platinum Games game would run given the physics problem of distance and lag.
Pretty much any fighting game that's normally, for lack of a better term, faster than or requires much more precise timing than Street Fighter. So basically any King of Fighters game, anyone wanting to do counters/reversals in Dead or Alive, some of the characters in SoulCalibur certainly...it doesn't look good for the fighting genre in general if you're anywhere where high latency is already a concern.
Pretty much any fighting game that's normally, for lack of a better term, faster than or requires much more precise timing than Street Fighter. So basically any King of Fighters game, anyone wanting to do counters/reversals in Dead or Alive, some of the characters in SoulCalibur certainly...it doesn't look for the fighting genre in general if you're anywhere were high latency is already a concern.
I honestly can't think of any fighting game where it'd work / be preferred. They're all 60 fps.
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Pretty much any fighting game that's normally, for lack of a better term, faster than or requires much more precise timing than Street Fighter. So basically any King of Fighters game, anyone wanting to do counters/reversals in Dead or Alive, some of the characters in SoulCalibur certainly...it doesn't look for the fighting genre in general if you're anywhere were high latency is already a concern.
I honestly can't think of any fighting game where it'd work / be preferred. They're all 60 fps.
Technically speaking, some of the earlyTekken games are both comparatively slow (a trademark of Tekken) and a lot less precise with their timing. I feel like this is also true to some extent for SoulEdge and the original Dead or Alive, but I'm not going to speak authoritatively on that. Plus, those games run at particularly low resolutions. On the other hand, they're old-ass games. Dead or Alive 4 came out fifteen years ago, is 60hz, and I can't see it running well live streaming given the absurdly narrow window for reversal moves. Same for Tekken 5, which I think is less demanding, and other games too.
Never mind "preferred", it's very hard to picture scenarios where this would be "acceptable". 3D fighters are still the way you can see just how bad your latency really is on XBL and PSN. Taking that, on top of streaming the entire game to both players, really doesn't instill confidence. This isn't necessarily an issue in other genres, but here it is.
(This is also why I'm not super-optimistic about Microsoft's supposedly unannounced bid to stream the whole Xbox Library to Switch, a device with a less than stellar reputation for wired and wireless connections.)
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Actually Google got bored with that and aren't doing it anymore. I mean they are still providing it in areas where they have it set up, but they no longer have an interest in expanding. I assume they saw something shiny and became distracted.
edit- This is one of my main concerns with Stadia, Google gets bored really fast.
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Actually Google got bored with that and aren't doing it anymore. I mean they are still providing it in areas where they have it set up, but they no longer have an interest in expanding. I assume they saw something shiny and became distracted.
Literally the only other human being I knew, in person, who had Google Fiber...moved half a zip-code from his terrible apartment to a much nicer town house. And promptly went back to using data-capped DSL.
Thanks, Google! (and the shitty DSL provider)
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I thought Google fiber's challenges were mostly red state regulators.
I thought Google fiber's challenges were mostly red state regulators.
The main purpose of Google Fiber was to embarrass other ISPs into actually improving their service. It worked*, as they started falling over themselves to start putting together much faster packages. Google, which wasn't really making any money on Fiber, decided to move on.
*rural American Internet access remains a shitshow as always.
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And that is my big concern with Stadia. If Google isn't making money they move on.
They have no qualms at all about cancelling something if it isn't making money. Backlash be damned.
Which, if I'm being honest, I can totally respect. However, it does make me very hesitant to give Google money for anything that requires constant support and cash from them.
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I thought Google fiber's challenges were mostly red state regulators.
Not in Red State Georgia. I've not heard of a single local lawmaker or council mounting a meaningful opposition to Google Fiber. AT&T, Charter, and Comcast aren't the government.
On the other hand, I've heard of plenty of red state local lawmakers climbing over each other to get in line and blow Google, but that's not surprising. How exactly do we expect small-time Georgia politics to respond to one of the biggest corporations in the world? Metro Atlanta city officials were certainly happy to do so, same way they were for KIA, BMW, or any other major corporation...it's not really their fault Google lost interest.
(I get ~230 mbps down and a hilarious ~15 mbps up over Charter Spectrum...though you really can't give Google sole credit for improved download speeds, since Charter has been winning that competition for more than ten years, they probably helped.)
And that is my big concern with Stadia. If Google isn't making money they move on.
They have no qualms at all about cancelling something if it isn't making money. Backlash be damned.
Which, if I'm being honest, I can totally respect. However, it does make me very hesitant to give Google money for anything that requires constant support and cash from them.
I really wouldn't be surprised if at least part of Stadia's reason for being is to fight Twitch.
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It’s weird, but Sony’s quietly been putting in the legwork on this for a good while. PS Now launched at the beginning of 2014. They also announced some partnership on streaming technology with MS recently that suggests they at least want to keep their options open.
Game ownership won’t go away this generation, but I have a feeling this might be a bridge to something closer to what Stadia is offering.
The crazy thing is that this feels shocking and abrupt despite the idea being in the works and publicly available in some form for almost a decade. PS Now was building off older Gaikai stuff from like 2011, and OnLive preceded that by a year or two. And the tech has slowly gotten better while internet connections have generally (if geographically unequally) improved.
I have no idea if this is going to be a “good” thing, but it seems inevitable so long as it is technologically possible.
I didn't get anything when OnLive shut down!
Desura did let you download installers. No Steam keys or access to patches, though.
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If the profits aren't there, it won't happen.
It's what I'm actually hoping for, just a failure of this entire thing, chalked up to yet another dot com whoopsie.
It's not just 130 though. It's 130 + 10 bucks a months + buying be the game. That's kind of a shit deal if the games are more than like $5
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Will it be any better when PoE and EVE shut themselves down?
If you're playing any live service game, you've already ceded ownership. Whether the graphics are rendered remotely or locally, or you have a physical disc or rely on the cloud, the company holds all the cards. At least that's what I thought we were talking about.
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Yes, and the reason is it will be because the game had run its natural course and is no longer profitable for the company and most of the playerbase has abandoned. Still sad, but something that is inevitable.
If Google decides that Stadia ain't worth it in 3 months when the games-as-a-service are still going live, they've just made the decision for everyone else that they don't get to play it any more. And Google has been known to ditch shit even when it's working pretty well.
Because in most cases they aren't actually that widespread and popular. Its a thing for a minority of players on the minority (PC) platform, whose few AAA exclusives are always online games anyway.
It's popular enough that Steam put them in and several people have full time jobs running Nexus.
That's a real impressive stat next to the billions of game sales on completely locked down platforms.
Stadia is supposed to be a console replacement in the first place. Its signature hardware is a console controller. That audience is already used to having next to zero mod options.
Not to someone who doesn't have a high end PC setup and wants to do high end PC gaming. From their couch.
Like I get the reservations that are borne out of the "What If" scenarios, but the ability to do 1080P/60FPS gaming with nothing more than a controller and Chromecast isn't anything to sneeze at and I'm honestly shocked at the handwringing in this thread. The OnLive comparisons are a little suspect as well; oftentimes technology doesn't get it right the first time. Can you imagine if everyone took Pets.com to heart as THE expected outcome of e-commerce?
What has Google ditched that was going well?
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So yeah stadia is outside of my ability to use it, since like the author of this article I have a TB cap, and with how I game I'd hit that in a week.
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Google+ was not doing well. Google Hangouts still exists from a quick search, I've never used it though. Never heard of the others, though, thanks.
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I think that the most likely scenario is potentially the one which is worst for consumers - that Stadia works well enough for most people that it lasts for a decent while. It doesn't work well enough for fighting games, but people can play Assassin's Creed, Tomb Raider, and other AAA action-adventure type games. But, it doesn't do well enough that it takes over the gaming industry. It makes some money, but either not a breakout amount, or not enough to justify all the investment google put into it. So, within 2-4 years, stadia is cancelled, once people have started buying into the platform.
Skyrim added mod support on consoles! Mods are a good thing and we should be moving towards having more options for them, not less!
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Well, Xbox One anyway...the Bethesda modding scene on Playstation 4 has had a really rough ride, but I think they've righted the ship by now.
Google+ was actually doing ok, but they had a data breach and just killed it. I'm fairly certain they killed all the streaming features in Hangouts. Orkut was apparently really big outside the US.
Like, it appeals to me for games like X-com, Civilization....turn based stuff. It's immediately a laughing stock (to me) when I consider games like Street Fighter or, potentially, even FPS.
There's weird edge cases. I actually used a Vita to remote play my PS4 while at work so I could farm the Loot Cave in Destiny 1. I only did it for a day or two and mostly as a lark / to use the Vita, but it was "neat".
I have no idea how well a Platinum Games game would run given the physics problem of distance and lag.
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Anything requiring really precise controls, your Soulslikes, your indie platformers/roguelikes, most FPS's, sports titles, etc.
The PSP Go was on the leading edge of a gaming trend that would soon explode in popularity (smartphones without physical media), but it didn't have the games that would appeal to that trend and it annoyed traditional gamers who didn't want to move on.
Stadia seems to be doing the exact same thing. Streaming gaming potentially has the potential to boom, but I suspect the people who will eventually embrace that are more casual gamers. Nothing about Stadia's games are casual.
Pretty much any fighting game that's normally, for lack of a better term, faster than or requires much more precise timing than Street Fighter. So basically any King of Fighters game, anyone wanting to do counters/reversals in Dead or Alive, some of the characters in SoulCalibur certainly...it doesn't look good for the fighting genre in general if you're anywhere where high latency is already a concern.
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Technically speaking, some of the early Tekken games are both comparatively slow (a trademark of Tekken) and a lot less precise with their timing. I feel like this is also true to some extent for SoulEdge and the original Dead or Alive, but I'm not going to speak authoritatively on that. Plus, those games run at particularly low resolutions. On the other hand, they're old-ass games. Dead or Alive 4 came out fifteen years ago, is 60hz, and I can't see it running well live streaming given the absurdly narrow window for reversal moves. Same for Tekken 5, which I think is less demanding, and other games too.
Never mind "preferred", it's very hard to picture scenarios where this would be "acceptable". 3D fighters are still the way you can see just how bad your latency really is on XBL and PSN. Taking that, on top of streaming the entire game to both players, really doesn't instill confidence. This isn't necessarily an issue in other genres, but here it is.
(This is also why I'm not super-optimistic about Microsoft's supposedly unannounced bid to stream the whole Xbox Library to Switch, a device with a less than stellar reputation for wired and wireless connections.)
Actually Google got bored with that and aren't doing it anymore. I mean they are still providing it in areas where they have it set up, but they no longer have an interest in expanding. I assume they saw something shiny and became distracted.
edit- This is one of my main concerns with Stadia, Google gets bored really fast.
Literally the only other human being I knew, in person, who had Google Fiber...moved half a zip-code from his terrible apartment to a much nicer town house. And promptly went back to using data-capped DSL.
Thanks, Google! (and the shitty DSL provider)
Nah, Google just came to the conclusion that wired is not the future, the future is wireless.
So now they are planning to do that.
The main purpose of Google Fiber was to embarrass other ISPs into actually improving their service. It worked*, as they started falling over themselves to start putting together much faster packages. Google, which wasn't really making any money on Fiber, decided to move on.
*rural American Internet access remains a shitshow as always.
They have no qualms at all about cancelling something if it isn't making money. Backlash be damned.
Which, if I'm being honest, I can totally respect. However, it does make me very hesitant to give Google money for anything that requires constant support and cash from them.
Not in Red State Georgia. I've not heard of a single local lawmaker or council mounting a meaningful opposition to Google Fiber. AT&T, Charter, and Comcast aren't the government.
On the other hand, I've heard of plenty of red state local lawmakers climbing over each other to get in line and blow Google, but that's not surprising. How exactly do we expect small-time Georgia politics to respond to one of the biggest corporations in the world? Metro Atlanta city officials were certainly happy to do so, same way they were for KIA, BMW, or any other major corporation...it's not really their fault Google lost interest.
(I get ~230 mbps down and a hilarious ~15 mbps up over Charter Spectrum...though you really can't give Google sole credit for improved download speeds, since Charter has been winning that competition for more than ten years, they probably helped.)
I really wouldn't be surprised if at least part of Stadia's reason for being is to fight Twitch.