Sekiro: Shadows Die Twice

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  • ProlegomenaProlegomena Frictionless Spinning The VoidRegistered User regular
    edited May 2019
    Juggernut wrote: »
    With Jinsuke I never deflected I just dodged left as soon as I saw the sword glint and then hit him in the back once or twice.

    Yeah eventually I did that

    Prolegomena on
  • Mr FuzzbuttMr Fuzzbutt Registered User regular
    Final boss phase 2 (or 3 depending on counting) tip:
    If you're not making use of your spirit emblems in this fight, just unload all of your shurikens at him when he's doing the flashy move to pull the spear out of the ground at the start of the phase, since he can't block them.

    It won't get close to killing him, but it'll do enough damage that posture damage will stick better right from the start.

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  • knitdanknitdan Registered User regular
    Thanks for that!
    I’ve been mainly fighting without the use of spirit emblems, because on my other save I completely ran out while trying to beat Owl 1 so then I had to adjust my tactics and git gud, and I got used to not using prosthetics.

    I’ve been using a few spirit emblems on Akos spiritfall at the start of first phase of saint just to get done with him faster but I do like the idea of hitting 2nd saint phase hard early.

    “I was quick when I came in here, I’m twice as quick now”
    -Indiana Solo, runner of blades
  • Speed RacerSpeed Racer Scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratchRegistered User regular
    Anyone have tips for the bad end final boss

    That fire is rough

  • MrGrimoireMrGrimoire Pixflare Registered User regular
    Anyone have tips for the bad end final boss

    That fire is rough
    As far as I can tell, in the big AoE that explodes upwards, the doors on the floor are always safe spots. And everything in the Iaijutsu can be deflected, for very little damage taken.

    For the fire Ichimonji, I found that either jumping back and to the left, or dodging forwards and past him were safe.

    I can't dodge the long cone thing for shit, ended up just sprinting left and jumping when he started the animation. Can probably be blocked with the fire Umbrella, though.

  • ButtersButters A glass of some milks Registered User regular
    101 wrote: »
    Late game mini boss
    the red eyes ashing elite is a real sob

    Ended up having to abuse the flame most feathers to get him

    On Ng+ now. Feels real good to be one shoting bosses that gave me do much trouble first time round

    Red eye enemy tips
    Living Force is real nice. I'm on ng+ as well and absolutely wrecked the drunkard with it

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  • DouglasDangerDouglasDanger PennsylvaniaRegistered User regular
    I really need to get through the early part of the game

    I have a big gauntlet of enemies to run through at the Hirata estate? Leading up to a boss, I think

    I haven't pplayed this game in like a month because I need to dedicate hours to it and I haven't had the time

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  • ButtersButters A glass of some milks Registered User regular
    NG+ so far is making all the suffering in my first passthrough worth it. All these different options at my disposal is really fun.

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  • Albino BunnyAlbino Bunny Bad Opinion Haver Registered User regular
    On the final good boss right now and honestly it really feels like they're just escalating the difficulty in the cheesiest way of having twitchy animations and high damage.

  • ButtersButters A glass of some milks Registered User regular
    On the final good boss right now and honestly it really feels like they're just escalating the difficulty in the cheesiest way of having twitchy animations and high damage.

    The vegetation is extra trolly in how it can block visibility of certain animations.

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  • Albino BunnyAlbino Bunny Bad Opinion Haver Registered User regular
    Butters wrote: »
    On the final good boss right now and honestly it really feels like they're just escalating the difficulty in the cheesiest way of having twitchy animations and high damage.

    The vegetation is extra trolly in how it can block visibility of certain animations.

    It just feels like the difficulty has ramped by like, killing me super fast.

    So moments which, for the rest of the game, would be getting hit and healing while learning that animation. Are a death.

    Which is just frustrating.

  • ButtersButters A glass of some milks Registered User regular
    Butters wrote: »
    On the final good boss right now and honestly it really feels like they're just escalating the difficulty in the cheesiest way of having twitchy animations and high damage.

    The vegetation is extra trolly in how it can block visibility of certain animations.

    It just feels like the difficulty has ramped by like, killing me super fast.

    So moments which, for the rest of the game, would be getting hit and healing while learning that animation. Are a death.

    Which is just frustrating.

    To mitigate my frustration I started calling my attempts "practice". I wasn't trying to beat him for probably 40 attempts over a few days. I was "practicing" his different forms because I didn't expect to actually beat him. It wasn't until I was able to get through the sword form with no healing that I finally felt close and even then I still had to finish learning the spear form well enough to get through it.

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  • ButtersButters A glass of some milks Registered User regular
    edited May 2019
    As much as I complained about a lot of bosses the duels I think are fair. They are very hard and took me a long time to learn but they are mostly fair. There are enough different ways to get through them where I respect their construction and can enjoy parts of them.

    I think there is only one fight I really don't like and consider bullshit
    The Demon of Hatred. I think it's a boring fight, there are too few options to approach it, and requires one too many deathblows.

    Butters on
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  • KupiKupi Registered User regular
    I'm watching a speedrun of the game and apparently you can deflect Snake Eyes Shirahagi's grab move??? Fucking hell would that have been nice to know.

    My favorite musical instrument is the air-raid siren.
  • ButtersButters A glass of some milks Registered User regular
    Yeah I saw that when I was watching that one dude do his no damage run a while back. I just fought her today and couldn't resist jumping back.

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  • knitdanknitdan Registered User regular
    Still no progress on Saint

    But I did take down Owl 2

    “I was quick when I came in here, I’m twice as quick now”
    -Indiana Solo, runner of blades
  • PlatyPlaty Registered User regular
    Living Force seems like the most overpowered thing in the game against human-sized enemies

    Like holy moley

  • ButtersButters A glass of some milks Registered User regular
    Platy wrote: »
    Living Force seems like the most overpowered thing in the game against human-sized enemies

    Like holy moley

    With the final flame vent you don't even need confetti for apparition enemies

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  • PlatyPlaty Registered User regular
    Oh jeez I must say I haven't really got stuck on any boss so far but Corrupted Monk 2 seems like it's specifically designed to exploit my personal weaknesses

    Speed Racer
  • PlatyPlaty Registered User regular
    Also I feel there are some translation shenanigans going on with the Corrupted Monk, Basket Wearer Shosuke uses "he" pronouns but the memory says her name was Priestess Yao

    Should be Corrupted Nun!

  • Raijin QuickfootRaijin Quickfoot I'm your Huckleberry YOU'RE NO DAISYRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    I beat that giant ogre fuck!

    Fuck you, ogre! FUCK YOU

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  • rhylithrhylith Registered User regular
    Platy wrote: »
    Also I feel there are some translation shenanigans going on with the Corrupted Monk, Basket Wearer Shosuke uses "he" pronouns but the memory says her name was Priestess Yao

    Should be Corrupted Nun!

    The basket weaver is talking about the dude you bring the water of the palace to in Mibu.

    Rhylith - <Shambler Milk> Horde Chogall
  • Speed RacerSpeed Racer Scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratchRegistered User regular
    i think my biggest complaint about the combat system in sekiro is that i wish grabs had something special you could do to counter them, like how thrusts have mikiri counter and sweeps have the mario stomp

    as is the only thing you can really do is "run away" and some of those grab hitboxes are real squirrelly

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  • JuggernutJuggernut Registered User regular
    Still stuck on Genichiro. Finally made it to phase 2 but had no gourds left and got promptly merc'd so now I have to start over.

    Jesus why am I doing this?

  • PlatyPlaty Registered User regular
    I had to go look at the guy because he doesn't have a shaved head

    But he had paper charms on him so I think you're right

    Didn't bring him the water yet

  • ProlegomenaProlegomena Frictionless Spinning The VoidRegistered User regular
    Juggernut wrote: »
    Still stuck on Genichiro. Finally made it to phase 2 but had no gourds left and got promptly merc'd so now I have to start over.

    Jesus why am I doing this?

    I took the opportunity of being at this point to go and explore some lovely mountain scenery.

  • JuggernutJuggernut Registered User regular
    I said fuck it and went to Senpou. Found a gourd seed so that should help. I dunno man.

    I dunno.

  • ButtersButters A glass of some milks Registered User regular
    Juggernut wrote: »
    I said fuck it and went to Senpou. Found a gourd seed so that should help. I dunno man.

    I dunno.

    Don't feel too discouraged, man. Genichiro is where the game gets real and starts forcing you to play a certain way.

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  • ProlegomenaProlegomena Frictionless Spinning The VoidRegistered User regular
    Guardian Ape can do one

  • KupiKupi Registered User regular
    Ahahaha.

    Don't thrust-attack against Owl.
    He knows how to mikiri.
    He can deathblow.
    Your posture will not survive the mikiri.

    My favorite musical instrument is the air-raid siren.
  • PlatyPlaty Registered User regular
    Can someone give me the how on how to farm Fulminated Mercury

    The problem seems to be I can't find Ashina Gunmen

    Various guides on the internet you have to go to the Ashina Castle bonfire and run up the stairs but those guys don't carry guns and they drop Scrap Magnetite

    Also where is the Ministry Beggar

  • rhylithrhylith Registered User regular
    Platy wrote: »
    Can someone give me the how on how to farm Fulminated Mercury

    The problem seems to be I can't find Ashina Gunmen

    Various guides on the internet you have to go to the Ashina Castle bonfire and run up the stairs but those guys don't carry guns and they drop Scrap Magnetite

    Also where is the Ministry Beggar

    The fulminated mercury enemies are after you finish fountainhead palace.

    Not sure about the other guy without being more specific.

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  • PlatyPlaty Registered User regular
    Thank you, the stuff you find on the internet is super-confusing

  • rhylithrhylith Registered User regular
    Yeah I went through the same thing.

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  • ButtersButters A glass of some milks Registered User regular
    You can farm the gunners in the poison pool. I had some success with ballons and the demon bell there.

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  • metaghostmetaghost Registered User regular
    I can never tell if names like "Ministry Beggar" are official, or something invented for a given guide.

    Because I've beaten this game three times and have no idea who that could be, other than the old religious lady you encounter over the course of the game.

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  • italianranmaitalianranma Registered User regular
    90% sure the beggar enemies are the ones that ring the alarm bell, which would put the Ministry Beggar at the end-game where any of the firearm wielding enemies can drop it.

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  • ProlegomenaProlegomena Frictionless Spinning The VoidRegistered User regular
    I had a strong day yesterday, dealing with the Guardian Ape, O'Rin of the Water, the Guardian Ape again (+ buddy) just for the fun of it even though I didn't have to, and the Corrupted Monk.

  • DemonStaceyDemonStacey TTODewback's Daughter In love with the TaySwayRegistered User regular
    Final boss phase 2 (or 3 depending on counting) tip:
    If you're not making use of your spirit emblems in this fight, just unload all of your shurikens at him when he's doing the flashy move to pull the spear out of the ground at the start of the phase, since he can't block them.

    It won't get close to killing him, but it'll do enough damage that posture damage will stick better right from the start.

    Alternate tip
    Use the phantom Kunai since they can't be blocked. If you use them with the ceremonial dagger you can deal about 90% worth of an entire health bar with just kunai.

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  • ButtersButters A glass of some milks Registered User regular
    Maybe I was just better at the game by then but double ape fight I thought was easier than guardian and the fight is totally worth two beads

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