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Sekiro: Shadows Die Twice

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  • CantidoCantido Registered User regular
    Cantido wrote: »
    Cantido wrote: »
    How do I get through the lock door in Hinata where an NPC insinuated I will need Snap Seeds?
    Did you kill the spear midboss and talk to your pops on the other side of the map? You get a key.

    It's these "how the hell am I supposed to see/know that" moments that make me hate From.

    I mean it's the route if you follow the most obvious path. To get to the end without having done it you have to do a little detour down the river

    Somehow I slung myself on the first rooftop I saw without ever seeing here near the fire.

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  • TuminTumin Registered User regular
    Lady Butterfly is frustrating me so much in phase 2. Tips?

    I am REALLY good at parrying her at this point. I feel like I am misunderstanding something about dealing decent hp damage to her in a short time frame. I very rarely manage to hit her more than once per cycle of attacks.

  • PeasPeas Registered User regular
    Exploration is key, if you get stuck on a boss, odds are you can move on to do something else and come back later after you get a couple of new skills, tools and upgrades, I never had a situation where I just have this specific boss to kill so I can advance. World is big. BIG.

    Also you need to use everything you have at your disposal, having a right tool will make a tough fight 1000% easier, you are not a samurai, you are shinobi (japanese batman), if you just try to fight everything with your trusty katana, you die. That's the reason why you lost your arm in the first place dang it!

    Like previous posters have mentioned, don't mash. Sometimes you need to mash really hard though. But there is a difference between blind and delibrate mash, once you get the hang of it, it feels kinda like doing a sweet little dance when you get into the zone

    If you are having a really hard and terrible time and just want to play the game for it's mechanics I say it's better to just straight up use a guide for the weakness of the bosses and find the secret upgrades.




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  • Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    edited March 2019
    Tumin wrote: »
    Lady Butterfly is frustrating me so much in phase 2. Tips?

    I am REALLY good at parrying her at this point. I feel like I am misunderstanding something about dealing decent hp damage to her in a short time frame. I very rarely manage to hit her more than once per cycle of attacks.

    Phase 2 is basically phase 1 but she throws butterflies and creates illusions. Dodge the former and use the pillars to block them and snap the latter (or just use an aoe move, they die in one hit)

    1, 2, dodge, dodge counter. Keep hitting in the back/side as that drains her HP. If she dives, side step and dodge counter. If she goes in the air, throw a shuriken and dive her on the ground.

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  • webberwebber Registered User regular
    I'm enjoying this game a lot.

    For me, I'm having an easier time than the previous Souls games.

    I need to tighten up my blocks. I think I'm hitting the button a bit late.

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  • PeasPeas Registered User regular
    Tumin wrote: »
    Lady Butterfly is frustrating me so much in phase 2. Tips?

    I am REALLY good at parrying her at this point. I feel like I am misunderstanding something about dealing decent hp damage to her in a short time frame. I very rarely manage to hit her more than once per cycle of attacks.

    Phase 2 is basically phase 1 but she throws butterflies and creates illusions. Dodge the former and use the pillars to block them and snap the latter (or just use an aoe move, they die in one hit)

    1, 2, dodge, dodge counter. Keep hitting in the back/side as that drains her HP. If she dives, side step and dodge counter. If she goes in the air, throw a shuriken and dive her on the ground.

    https://youtu.be/cV93rcf4L7M

  • PoorochondriacPoorochondriac Ah, man Ah, jeezRegistered User regular
    The Folding Screen Monkeys puzzle is a fun bit of business
    I was banging my head against a wall trying to sneak up on the Hearing monkey, until I remembered the stealth candy. Got the chumper immediately after. Very satisfying.

    Peas
  • ChanceChance Registered User regular
    Tcheldor wrote: »
    Chance wrote: »
    Platy wrote: »
    Remember the days when we all got stuck on the Capra Demon

    High five!
    Tcheldor wrote: »
    I stepped away from Lady Butterfly for a bit, got my first prayer bead and a third Gourd, then went back to her.

    I got her so fucking close to a deathblow that I could taste it, but the old Dark Souls "got greedy" habit kicked in.

    I finally beat her with 2 charges, vit 1, and atk 1 today.

    My advice is as follows:

    Get in her face and hit her: See what happens with that hit. Did she deflect it or guard it/eat it. If she guards/eats it, hit her again, repeat till she deflects, then you wait to see which of her 3/4 attacks she uses, and deflect accordingly.

    You have enough time in that fight to swing, and see the result of your swing before you have to determine what to do next. DO NOT MASH. you will die.

    I finally went really toe to toe with her tonight. Had her at 30% vitality but got cocky. I'll go try to find hidden doors now ^.^

    30% or "30%"
    she has 2 phases.

    30%.
    2nd phase lol
    just dancin' with her like Muhammad Ali.

    Went and fought the Bull.
    At first I'm like "just running makes me feel like I'm open a lot, am I really supposed to just dodge everything?" Nope!

    When a raging bull charges you and you deflect it. *Jazz hands!* Sekiro!
    DodgeBlan wrote: »
    Holy shit how did FromSoft make an even more brutal game than all their previous games on Activision's dime. Just a fucking merciless experience so far.

    I wonder if it's going to be like bloodborne tho where once you get the hang of the mechanics it's not so bad

    plz be this

    It really is, it's so much fun.

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  • TcheldorTcheldor Registered User regular
    Tumin wrote: »
    Lady Butterfly is frustrating me so much in phase 2. Tips?

    I am REALLY good at parrying her at this point. I feel like I am misunderstanding something about dealing decent hp damage to her in a short time frame. I very rarely manage to hit her more than once per cycle of attacks.

    Phase 2 is Phase 1 with additional floaty butterflies. Just do what you were doing, and know you have to defend longer since she has them. You should very easily be able to work her down slowly but surely with combos each time she attacks.

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  • ChanceChance Registered User regular
    Peas wrote: »
    once you get the hang of it, it feels kinda like doing a sweet little dance when you get into the zone

    This. This is why I'm loving it so much. I mean the setting and everything is wonderful and I dig how xp works in this one, but the way it feels running around killing stuff is amazing. The fights are so much about momentum and keeping someone on the back foot, and when they push back if you can see it comin' and ding nail the deflect or stomp their spear into the dust...

    This is a deep cut but remember the original Prince of Persia? How the fights were attack-parry-attack-parry and it really felt like a swordfight in a movie, even if it was literally 2 buttons with identical timing? This is that but infinitely deeper and more meaningful. It's like MGS: Revengeance but way deeper. Swords ringing off each other - clang! Clang! SPLAT. Miyazaki made a real, playable period piece martial arts movie with fight choreography by whoever did The Raid. These are intimate, furious clashes - every single one.

    Like I've always been kinda geeky about feudal Japan, I've been a From diehard since Demon's Souls, BB was my favorite and this looked like they were really putting the combat center stage, but I'll be honest - I didn't expect to love it as much as I do.

    I love it a lot and I just beat the bull I don't thing I'm even a quarter done yet :):):) This is a crazy-awesome game for me, so far.

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  • PeasPeas Registered User regular
    edited March 2019
    ED! wrote: »
    Man this looked so much like when bloodborne came out and every was saying it’s too hard when they get stuck on gascoigne or blood starved beast

    . . .yeah I'm not buying this one. BSB definitely gave people trouble but there were tools you could use and just straight up murder the thing. Father was definitely a bit of a pain but again, you could actually do things to make that fight bearable. Neither of those two fights comes even close in difficulty to the stuff I'm seeing in this game.

    You can use tools and straight up murder thing is a major part of Sekiro

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  • MaddocMaddoc I'm Bobbin Threadbare, are you my mother? Registered User regular
    Granted I've always been one of those "Souls/Bloodborne aren't actually that difficult" people, I think the difficulty in those games was largely just figuring out how you're supposed to approach the game and then the execution was largely pretty forgiving for the most part.

    This game has that first bit but also the execution is much more demanding, and I think due to that it is a much more difficult overall experience.

    I'm absolutely loving it but I can see where people would hit a wall and it is a bummer that there is no real workaround for that outside of just playing it on PC and cheating (Which I wholly endorse, if that's how you gotta do)

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  • el_vicioel_vicio Registered User regular
    Alright, got past the bull, and it took me a little too long afterward to realize what place I'm arriving at.

    Might stop there and go back to Lady Butterfly.

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  • PeasPeas Registered User regular
    PSA:
    Resurrecting does not give people dragons rot
    Only actual dying will

    Resurrect as you please folks that's all

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  • MaddocMaddoc I'm Bobbin Threadbare, are you my mother? Registered User regular
    One of the best bits of advice I got was that unless you are 100% sure you can kill whatever you're fighting, unless you're trapped in a boss arena, don't fight them after reviving. Just revive and retreat. That way you don't get hit with death penalties.

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  • el_vicioel_vicio Registered User regular
    confetti doesn't help with the headless

    was worth a shot

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  • DracilDracil Registered User regular
    edited March 2019
    Man I'm like super far into the game I think. Like 5 or 6 bosses in.
    Game grays out all Ashina Castle idols except for one. And yep, new red and purple shinobi who are scary as fuck.

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  • el_vicioel_vicio Registered User regular
    Peas wrote: »
    PSA:
    Resurrecting does not give people dragons rot
    Only actual dying will

    Resurrect as you please folks that's all

    Yeah I think the game doesn't communicate that clearly, because what is meant when it says that resurrection causes the dragon rot, it's not the one you can choose when downed the first time, but the one that enables you to continue the game. I wonder if the japanese terms are different for both

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  • DracilDracil Registered User regular
    Viskod wrote: »
    ED! wrote: »
    McGibs wrote: »
    God damn I want my 80 dollars back.

    . . .yeah I really hope this does well since they took time away from BB and something else, but boy I do not see this game leaving a good taste is some peoples mouths. Genechiro in particular is going to test a lot of people's patience.

    On the PS4 as of right now only 9.6% of players have beaten Genichiro.

    Huh, he was one of the bosses I actually beat on my first try.
    On the other hand, by that point I'd explored a bunch of the temple and sunken valley areas so was pretty well upgraded.

    But I think that's the thing. With only maybe a few exceptions, much of the game is pretty open-ended and if you're stuck, go somewhere else and get more health/attack/heal upgrades and come back.

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  • PLAPLA The process.Registered User regular
    Running away should be taught in school. It's a very important skill for humans.

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  • Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    PLA wrote: »
    Running away should be taught in school. It's a very important skill for humans.

    The game doesn’t even mention that you can book it b holding down circle. I figured it out after a hint mentioned dash attacks and I was like, “wait, dashing????”

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  • Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    Also the hardest enemy in the game that I have fought so far is still that NBA Jam Ogre motherfucker.

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  • Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    TFW you realize because you turned left instead of right 4 areas back you missed a buttload of content

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  • VeldrinVeldrin Sham bam bamina Registered User regular
    Can you parry the Bull? I'm not sure if I'm just getting the timing/positioning wrong or if I'm meant to be doing something else.

  • ViskodViskod Registered User regular
    I just ran around behind him and eventually he got stuck in a corner.

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  • Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    edited March 2019
    Veldrin wrote: »
    Can you parry the Bull? I'm not sure if I'm just getting the timing/positioning wrong or if I'm meant to be doing something else.

    You can parry the bull but it wasn’t the most effective way to fight him for me.

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  • Evil MultifariousEvil Multifarious Registered User regular
    edited March 2019
    A lot of people are saying the game gets easier as you get better, which is true, but tbh the main thing that makes it easier is having more flasks. I have 8 or 9 charges now and it makes it so much easier to recover from errors

    Honestly my main criticism is that you can only have one combat art equipped but there are like, a dozen and they're all cool

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  • VeldrinVeldrin Sham bam bamina Registered User regular
    Veldrin wrote: »
    Can you parry the Bull? I'm not sure if I'm just getting the timing/positioning wrong or if I'm meant to be doing something else.

    You can parry the bull but it wasn’t the most effective way to fight him for me.

    Yeah
    I probably need to go find the firecrackers huh

    I just figured since I didn't have much of an issue dealing with the Ogre without the appropriate tool, then I could do similar with the Bull, but seems not.

  • DanHibikiDanHibiki Registered User regular
    Veldrin wrote: »
    Can you parry the Bull? I'm not sure if I'm just getting the timing/positioning wrong or if I'm meant to be doing something else.

    You can parry the bull but it wasn’t the most effective way to fight him for me.

    I managed to beat the bull by sort of panicking and reverting to my old bloodborne pattern of getting in close and slashing at it's ass. worked really well as the bull takes a long time to turn around and he's easy to lure in to a corner or wall.

  • NogginNoggin Registered User regular
    Between the better tutorialization and the practice dude, I am finding this infinitely more accessible than Bloodborne, personally

    I never once managed to Parry in Bloodborne. Never figured it out.

    This is still hard as balls, but at least I get what SHOULD be happening

    That guy is great. I'm not too far in, but his first two sets of lessons were already very useful.

    And ya, when things go south anyway, tactical retreat!
    In that early village with the big hammer guy and bell lady, I grappled away and he lost track of me, leaving himself open to a falling deathblow

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  • Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    Veldrin wrote: »
    Veldrin wrote: »
    Can you parry the Bull? I'm not sure if I'm just getting the timing/positioning wrong or if I'm meant to be doing something else.

    You can parry the bull but it wasn’t the most effective way to fight him for me.

    Yeah
    I probably need to go find the firecrackers huh

    I just figured since I didn't have much of an issue dealing with the Ogre without the appropriate tool, then I could do similar with the Bull, but seems not.

    I mean, that helps because it stuns the asshole but the bull is much more of a positioning fight where you wail on it’s asshole while its bucking and turning. He’s one of the bosses that refills his bar super fast if you don’t drain his vitality first.

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  • ED!ED! Registered User regular
    Peas wrote: »
    ED! wrote: »
    Man this looked so much like when bloodborne came out and every was saying it’s too hard when they get stuck on gascoigne or blood starved beast

    . . .yeah I'm not buying this one. BSB definitely gave people trouble but there were tools you could use and just straight up murder the thing. Father was definitely a bit of a pain but again, you could actually do things to make that fight bearable. Neither of those two fights comes even close in difficulty to the stuff I'm seeing in this game.

    You can use tools and straight up murder thing is a major part of Sekiro

    I'm not sure which tools in Sekiro change a fight from one sided to trivial as fire-paper for BSB or music box and gun-parry spam did for Father G.

    Sure you can use tools here to make fights a bit more manageable, but it's nowhere on the same level as in BB. Ebriatas, one of the more troubling bosses for some, is 30 seconds with the flamethrower.

    . . . this also ignores how one mistake can absolutely wreck a boss run.

    el_vicio wrote: »
    confetti doesn't help with the headless

    was worth a shot

    That's for a different boss.

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  • ViskodViskod Registered User regular
    The Firecrackers are pretty close to that. They stop so many bosses in their tracks and can be used to cancel a lot of attacks.

  • Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    Viskod wrote: »
    The Firecrackers are pretty close to that. They stop so many bosses in their tracks and can be used to cancel a lot of attacks.

    Almost every boss gets fucked by the ol’

    Throw oil

    Ignite oil

    Combo

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  • PeewiPeewi I edited this in 2024 I edited this in 2024Registered User regular
    I have five different bosses/minibosses I can go fight and they all kick my ass.

  • Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    Oh.
    sup Genichiro.

    Fancy meeting you here.

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  • ViskodViskod Registered User regular
    Viskod wrote: »
    The Firecrackers are pretty close to that. They stop so many bosses in their tracks and can be used to cancel a lot of attacks.

    Almost every boss gets fucked by the ol’

    Throw oil

    Ignite oil

    Combo

    The Flame Vent is great when you can get it to connect and have oil as well. The trade off is that the Firecrackers are so much easier to use and have a huge range when upgraded, but don't do damage.

  • Albino BunnyAlbino Bunny Jackie Registered User regular
    I beat Ogre on the first go through without any issues.

    The guy right past him however is routinely kicking my ass.

  • SolarSolar Registered User regular
    Uggggggh was a good two hits away from taking down Genichiro, got antsy, got sloppy, got dead

    So close, so close

    Fucken goooootttt hiiiiiiim

    Holy shit that was satisfying

    Edit: Oh THAT'S what that spot in the menu is for

    This is why the game is hard

    When you beat a guy? You fucking beat them

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