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  • ViskodViskod Registered User regular
    As P10 said. When you resurrect from a death caused by Bite Down it doesn't swipe out your other resurrections. So if you're really low on health and think you might die, you can kill yourself with a Bite Down and rez for the heal up to 50% health and still have your other resurrections available.

  • HonkHonk Honk is this poster. Registered User, __BANNED USERS regular
    Cool! That sounds useful for bosses actually.

    PSN: Honkalot
  • HonkHonk Honk is this poster. Registered User, __BANNED USERS regular
    About the ape...
    Why is he back and why is he cheating? Not fair.

    And I question the wisdom to give you a tool that would be good for this specific situation but making it not work on the mob ape just after you got it.

    PSN: Honkalot
    ExtreaminatusQanamilGenji-Gloves
  • ChanceChance Registered User regular
    Honk wrote: »
    About the ape...
    Why is he back and why is he cheating? Not fair.

    And I question the wisdom to give you a tool that would be good for this specific situation but making it not work on the mob ape just after you got it.
    The backup ape is super-easy to kill. Not nearly as aggressive as the guardian ape when it still had its head, way less poise and HP. Just go nuts on the add while doing your best to avoid the real threat.

    You can do it - especially after killing the first ape. This one's really just about nailing the parries to make it fall on its face. Or... where its face would be - you get me.

    'Chance, you are the best kind of whore.' -Henroid
    Honk
  • RendRend Registered User regular
    Chance wrote: »
    Honk wrote: »
    About the ape...
    Why is he back and why is he cheating? Not fair.

    And I question the wisdom to give you a tool that would be good for this specific situation but making it not work on the mob ape just after you got it.
    The backup ape is super-easy to kill. Not nearly as aggressive as the guardian ape when it still had its head, way less poise and HP. Just go nuts on the add while doing your best to avoid the real threat.

    You can do it - especially after killing the first ape. This one's really just about nailing the parries to make it fall on its face. Or... where its face would be - you get me.
    You can actually just spam the firecracker at the add and it will poise break in about 4 uses. In a lot of cases you can kill it prior to the main boss getting to you and attacking!

    HonkQanamil
  • HonkHonk Honk is this poster. Registered User, __BANNED USERS regular
    Chance wrote: »
    Honk wrote: »
    About the ape...
    Why is he back and why is he cheating? Not fair.

    And I question the wisdom to give you a tool that would be good for this specific situation but making it not work on the mob ape just after you got it.
    The backup ape is super-easy to kill. Not nearly as aggressive as the guardian ape when it still had its head, way less poise and HP. Just go nuts on the add while doing your best to avoid the real threat.

    You can do it - especially after killing the first ape. This one's really just about nailing the parries to make it fall on its face. Or... where its face would be - you get me.
    I got damn close, got the add and maybe 3/4 on him so it feels doable. Probably looked worse than it is. The main ape has a new move variant on his three hit combo which goes to five or six, that basically did me in. Now I know at least!

    PSN: Honkalot
    Chance
  • OctavianOctavian Registered User regular
    Rend wrote: »
    Chance wrote: »
    Honk wrote: »
    About the ape...
    Why is he back and why is he cheating? Not fair.

    And I question the wisdom to give you a tool that would be good for this specific situation but making it not work on the mob ape just after you got it.
    The backup ape is super-easy to kill. Not nearly as aggressive as the guardian ape when it still had its head, way less poise and HP. Just go nuts on the add while doing your best to avoid the real threat.

    You can do it - especially after killing the first ape. This one's really just about nailing the parries to make it fall on its face. Or... where its face would be - you get me.
    You can actually just spam the firecracker at the add and it will poise break in about 4 uses. In a lot of cases you can kill it prior to the main boss getting to you and attacking!
    The backup ape (I assume it was the original ape's true love, who he was protecting the flower for) also turns to ash immediately when you mortal blade the centipede ape, regardless of how much health it has left.
    Doesn't want to live in a world without its true love, that would be my guess.

    I wasn't trying to do the fight that way, I just had more luck getting the undead ape to come at me, while the add waits behind him. The brown ape tries to leap slam you after you parry stun the undead version, but if you are in the middle of the spear-stab, you are immune to damage mid yank on the centipede.

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  • FiskebentFiskebent DenmarkRegistered User regular
    I thought I was doing OK until I got to Seven Ashina Spears. I think it took me over 20 tries to beat him.

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  • TuminTumin Registered User regular
    edited April 2019
    re: ape fight
    I sprinted a lot during the ape rematch once I realized that the brown ape just waits around 90% of the time. Basically just run away and wait for the leap into the air, then move up to do a deflect on the falling attack. I can actually do fairly well deflecting both apes and chipping away health but I invariably get screwed by being stuck in a corner and howled at, or just the camera in general. I ran a similar strategy on the bull and some other bosses, waiting for easy weak parts of their combos. If you run out of spear charges, jumping mortal blade is a workable substitute.

    Tumin on
  • ChanceChance Registered User regular
    Fiskebent wrote: »
    I thought I was doing OK until I got to Seven Ashina Spears. I think it took me over 20 tries to beat him.

    Don't feel bad - me too.

    'Chance, you are the best kind of whore.' -Henroid
    Extreaminatus
  • DanHibikiDanHibiki Registered User regular
    edited April 2019
    Well yesterday went pretty well, gave my self some curple tunnel smashing Genichiro, killed both Centipede Bosses... and then I ran in to a huge white monkey...
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    DanHibiki on
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  • QanamilQanamil x Registered User regular
    There's only one fight I would put on the trash tier and it's (full game spoilers)
    Demon of Hatred

    Evil Multifarious
  • metaghostmetaghost An intriguing odor A delicate touchRegistered User regular
    Qanamil wrote: »
    There's only one fight I would put on the trash tier and it's (full game spoilers)
    Demon of Hatred

    If you're April Foolsin' you gotta say so.

  • Evil MultifariousEvil Multifarious Registered User regular
    Qanamil wrote: »
    There's only one fight I would put on the trash tier and it's (full game spoilers)
    Demon of Hatred

    yeah i don't plan on doing this one

    i tried a few times and it just isn't worth the time and effort

  • QanamilQanamil x Registered User regular
    It is a bad fight and I was very glad to be done with it forever and never again.

  • QanamilQanamil x Registered User regular
    Really hard nonsense that isn't really fun:
    Sword Saint Isshin
    Side with Owl fight against Emma + Isshin
    Abandoned Dungeon Surgeon & Master

    Tough but enjoyable
    Hinata Past Owl (I'm doing this on NG and got him to 1% once in about 15 tries ugh)
    Owl
    Genichro
    Second Corrupted Monk

  • italianranmaitalianranma Registered User regular
    I found a guide to all the prosthetics that's an actual gameplay usage guide instead of simply showing off the animations and reading the descriptions verbatim. I wouldn't consider anything in here to be spoilers, but it does show off the usage against what I assume are some late game enemies.

    https://youtu.be/KhusMoiIpxY

    飛べねぇ豚はただの豚だ。
    XantomasDanHibiki
  • ChanceChance Registered User regular
    I found a guide to all the prosthetics that's an actual gameplay usage guide instead of simply showing off the animations and reading the descriptions verbatim. I wouldn't consider anything in here to be spoilers, but it does show off the usage against what I assume are some late game enemies.

    https://youtu.be/KhusMoiIpxY

    I gotta get that TerrorBrella.

    'Chance, you are the best kind of whore.' -Henroid
  • italianranmaitalianranma Registered User regular
    My biggest take away (and d'oh moment) was realizing that you need to equip the improved versions of those skills. I figured that the improved versions would simply replace the older ones. Kinda annoying that they don't for the ones that are straight upgrades.

    飛べねぇ豚はただの豚だ。
    TuminXantomasCroakerMan in the MistsJaven
  • DeansDeans Registered User regular
    Chance wrote: »
    I found a guide to all the prosthetics that's an actual gameplay usage guide instead of simply showing off the animations and reading the descriptions verbatim. I wouldn't consider anything in here to be spoilers, but it does show off the usage against what I assume are some late game enemies.

    https://youtu.be/KhusMoiIpxY

    I gotta get that TerrorBrella.

    One thing he doesn't mention is that the umbrella absorbs damage from attacks, and unleashes that damage with the projected force skill. Block a bunch of projectiles and you can posture break an enemy with one hit.

  • TcheldorTcheldor Registered User regular
    Qanamil wrote: »
    Really hard nonsense that isn't really fun:
    Sword Saint Isshin
    Side with Owl fight against Emma + Isshin
    Abandoned Dungeon Surgeon & Master

    Tough but enjoyable
    Hinata Past Owl (I'm doing this on NG and got him to 1% once in about 15 tries ugh)
    Owl
    Genichro
    Second Corrupted Monk

    Disagree hard with the first one on that list. The final boss is super good. I haven't done the other two there to have an opinion.

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  • ViskodViskod Registered User regular
    I just did the number 2 combo on that list today on NG+ and I have to disagree.

    The first fight is a joke. The boss has zero posture defense and is very predictable.

    The second one has more moves but is also predictable, and can be knocked out of winding up for their big attack with firecrackers or Ichimonji.

  • XantomasXantomas Registered User regular
    That's a very nice guide video

  • ChanceChance Registered User regular
    Man I wish I hadn't blown 5 skill points on Ashina Cross. You can't do more damage than one Ichimonji strike and you cost emblems?

    Get the fug outta heah.

    'Chance, you are the best kind of whore.' -Henroid
  • Evil MultifariousEvil Multifarious Registered User regular
    I gotta say, the fact that lockon and camera can just go wild because the boss jumped near you isn't really acceptable. This is happening vs the last boss and it's really frustrating

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  • ElendilElendil Registered User regular
    I gotta say, the fact that lockon and camera can just go wild because the boss jumped near you isn't really acceptable. This is happening vs the last boss and it's really frustrating
    i have noticed that the lock-on goes haywire occasionally in a way that it never did in souls

    which is weird because otherwise the camera has actually been pretty good otherwise? i just use the lock-on in this game, i never have to worry about whether it's a lock-on fight or not

  • TcheldorTcheldor Registered User regular
    I gotta say, the fact that lockon and camera can just go wild because the boss jumped near you isn't really acceptable. This is happening vs the last boss and it's really frustrating

    I find I only have that problem if there's a wall in the way. Walls cause the camera to go fucking nuts.

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  • ViskodViskod Registered User regular
    I think it’s different because it’s instant. There’s no wind up like ichimonji.

    You can get into the stance and counter with it instantly.

  • ElendilElendil Registered User regular
    is ashina cross the iado strike

    gonna have to get that even if it sucks

    Evil MultifariousCroaker
  • DeansDeans Registered User regular
    I'm used to the old Souls classic of fucking up the camera by backing yourself into a corner, but if I back the boss into a corner and him doing a little hop makes me lose lock-on, that's some bullshit.

  • Evil MultifariousEvil Multifarious Registered User regular
    Ashina cross sucks. Fast attacks are not very good when dangerous enemies do not get interrupted by most attacks.

  • metaghostmetaghost An intriguing odor A delicate touchRegistered User regular
    The only combat ability that I actively enjoy using is High Monk. Very satisfying to do a flip kick and break those cannoneers posture.

  • ElendilElendil Registered User regular
    is there a point to that vault over skill

    i read the description and it's literally just

    do a backstab instead of a frontstab

  • Evil MultifariousEvil Multifarious Registered User regular
    Elendil wrote: »
    is there a point to that vault over skill

    i read the description and it's literally just

    do a backstab instead of a frontstab

    There are abilities that trigger off backstabs only.

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  • Evil MultifariousEvil Multifarious Registered User regular
    Deans wrote: »
    I'm used to the old Souls classic of fucking up the camera by backing yourself into a corner, but if I back the boss into a corner and him doing a little hop makes me lose lock-on, that's some bullshit.

    There is a situation with the last boss where it's breaking lock on every single time, after yanking my camera to point upward and away. It's like fighting a hacker.

  • JepheryJephery Registered User regular
    Combat abilities are much more usable during boss fights with the Mid-Air Combat Art skill. There are a lot of boss moves you can punish hard by jumping to avoid and doing a combat art as you land.

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    "Orkses never lose a battle. If we win we win, if we die we die fightin so it don't count. If we runs for it we don't die neither, cos we can come back for annuver go, see!".
    Chance
  • ChanceChance Registered User regular
    Elendil wrote: »
    is there a point to that vault over skill

    i read the description and it's literally just

    do a backstab instead of a frontstab
    Elendil wrote: »
    is there a point to that vault over skill

    i read the description and it's literally just

    do a backstab instead of a frontstab

    There are abilities that trigger off backstabs only.

    Yes. Okay, so if you're past Genichiro,
    you've got the ninjitsu where you can re-enter stealth and enemies are confused for a few seconds? Yeah. You can either completely bail out mid-fight, or kill a small dude, get a ninjitsu off him and use that stealth to one-shot a much harder enemy of the group.

    Could be handy, but it also seems mighty complicated to a simple county ninja like me. I prefer just whackin' and parryin', whackin' and parryin'..

    'Chance, you are the best kind of whore.' -Henroid
  • Ninja Snarl PNinja Snarl P My helmet is my burden. Ninja Snarl: Gone, but not forgotten.Registered User regular
    Chance wrote: »
    Elendil wrote: »
    is there a point to that vault over skill

    i read the description and it's literally just

    do a backstab instead of a frontstab
    Elendil wrote: »
    is there a point to that vault over skill

    i read the description and it's literally just

    do a backstab instead of a frontstab

    There are abilities that trigger off backstabs only.

    Yes. Okay, so if you're past Genichiro,
    you've got the ninjitsu where you can re-enter stealth and enemies are confused for a few seconds? Yeah. You can either completely bail out mid-fight, or kill a small dude, get a ninjitsu off him and use that stealth to one-shot a much harder enemy of the group.

    Could be handy, but it also seems mighty complicated to a simple county ninja like me. I prefer just whackin' and parryin', whackin' and parryin'..

    Agreed, I've found zero use for the ninjitsu abilities. If I'm going for stealth, I'm stealthing everything and there's no reason to need to go back to stealth. If I'm going for a fight, I'm going to one-shot the biggest enemy first anyway.

    And by the time the ninjitsu stuff unlocks, the stealth gameplay seems to largely evaporate from the game anyway. I can still make use of stealth, but it's hugely less necessary now that I've got better tools; I'm not really interested in taking 10-15 careful minutes to clear an area when I can fight and do it in less than five minutes.

  • TcheldorTcheldor Registered User regular
    Chance wrote: »
    Elendil wrote: »
    is there a point to that vault over skill

    i read the description and it's literally just

    do a backstab instead of a frontstab
    Elendil wrote: »
    is there a point to that vault over skill

    i read the description and it's literally just

    do a backstab instead of a frontstab

    There are abilities that trigger off backstabs only.

    Yes. Okay, so if you're past Genichiro,
    you've got the ninjitsu where you can re-enter stealth and enemies are confused for a few seconds? Yeah. You can either completely bail out mid-fight, or kill a small dude, get a ninjitsu off him and use that stealth to one-shot a much harder enemy of the group.

    Could be handy, but it also seems mighty complicated to a simple county ninja like me. I prefer just whackin' and parryin', whackin' and parryin'..

    Agreed, I've found zero use for the ninjitsu abilities. If I'm going for stealth, I'm stealthing everything and there's no reason to need to go back to stealth. If I'm going for a fight, I'm going to one-shot the biggest enemy first anyway.

    And by the time the ninjitsu stuff unlocks, the stealth gameplay seems to largely evaporate from the game anyway. I can still make use of stealth, but it's hugely less necessary now that I've got better tools; I'm not really interested in taking 10-15 careful minutes to clear an area when I can fight and do it in less than five minutes.

    The second and third ninjutsu abilities are quite helpful. I used the third one for the corrupted monk in the depths. Backstabbed the random mooks before the fight and brought my buff sword to the fight.

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  • QanamilQanamil x Registered User regular
    I use the bloodsmoke all the time with large groups and there are particular fights that it makes much much easier.

    I'm one dumb blue rock from all upgrades on NG. I guess I didn't buy one since I did everything for them on the first go around. Boo.

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