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Julian Assange Arrested in London
joshofalltrades
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Just like it says on the tin.
According to the article:
Assange is also wanted in Sweden in connection to rape/molestation charges. Also, two women independently have come forward to ask that he be tested for STDs.
So it looks like a lot of chickens are coming home to roost for Assange.
Ruptly is an international news video agency
Obviously this is going to have big implications not only for international diplomacy, but on issues related to domestic interference in elections.
Ecuador finally withdrew their support for Assange after their relationship became increasingly strained. Not only did Assange continue to involve himself in state affairs, both Ecuadorian and otherwise, but he also failed to clean his own toilet and cat's litterbox, to the point where they actually shut off his internet earlier this year in an effort to get him to quit being the world's worst roommate.
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You happy Assange is finally facing the music? Personally I think he's a scumbag of the highest order.
According to the article:
Mr. Assange, 47, has been living at the Ecuadorean Embassy in London since 2012. British authorities arrested him after he was evicted by the Ecuadoreans. The Metropolitan Police said that Mr. Assange had been detained partly in connection with an extradition warrant filed by the authorities in the United States.
Assange is also wanted in Sweden in connection to rape/molestation charges. Also, two women independently have come forward to ask that he be tested for STDs.
So it looks like a lot of chickens are coming home to roost for Assange.
Ruptly is an international news video agency
Obviously this is going to have big implications not only for international diplomacy, but on issues related to domestic interference in elections.
Ecuador finally withdrew their support for Assange after their relationship became increasingly strained. Not only did Assange continue to involve himself in state affairs, both Ecuadorian and otherwise, but he also failed to clean his own toilet and cat's litterbox, to the point where they actually shut off his internet earlier this year in an effort to get him to quit being the world's worst roommate.
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- Use this thread as a proxy for liberal vs. moderate Democrat flame wars
- Post about the Mueller investigation; that thread is over there. However, Assange's involvement in publishing DNC emails is fair game
- Make this into a cybersecurity thread except as it relates to the accusations leveled at Assange
You happy Assange is finally facing the music? Personally I think he's a scumbag of the highest order.
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And the boot at Obama for not doing this sooner sheds further light on the motive. On the whole I'd be happier if he was just going to Sweden.
I guess it depends on which song is being played. I'm totally on board with him being taken back Sweden and forced to face that problem as he should have in the first place.
I'm less enthused about some sort of espionage charges related to the Chelsea Manning business.
If it's about the DNC emails, I'm down to boogie.
Chelsea Manning business is damage done, let's move on
DNC emails directly led to president Trump and Assange is clearly in Russia's pocket, Wikileaks itself has been transparently pro-Russia for some time now and if nothing else I'm happy to see its founder arrested
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His earlier leaks are a load of hot bullshit too, so going down for that shit is not a huge problem.
Let's all remember that fucking Colbert of all people nailed his ass for the game he's been playing back in fucking 2010.
(had a hard time finding a good transcript link, so this will do for now)
https://gawker.com/5515720/stephen-colbert-grills-wikileaks-founder-on-helicopter-video
Wikileaks was always nothing more then a way for Assange to go after his political enemies.
Problem is I wouldn't be surprised if the US makes absolutely no inquiries about the DNC and just sends him down for Manning.
She's back in jail for what seems like pretty good reasons: https://gizmodo.com/chelsea-mannings-fbi-files-are-central-to-ongoing-crimi-1833897041
Yes please, the punishment does not make any sense given it is literally impossible for her to do anything similar ever again
Assange on the other hand is probably a rapist and just all-around world-class asshole and has had this coming for a long while now
She's been out for almost 2 years now.
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Oh, didn't realize she was back in jail. Not answering a Grand Jury is a whole other ball of wax from what she did before.
Grand Jury imprisoned her for contempt of court because she refused to testify in front of a secret (and highly fucking unconstitutional) secret jury back in March
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Riffing on Bogart's mod post in the UK thread, he DOES in fact look like how one would cast Geralt of Rivia in a porn parody.
Let's play Mario Kart or something...
https://www.washingtonpost.com/context/julian-assange-indictment/?noteId=3add1fee-2dcb-40d9-b260-a5bf4eee3e56&questionId=805b1a44-bbaf-4e71-896f-1fb2de7ddf5e&utm_term=.14570e212337
In short it is conspiracy to commit computer intrusion. Aka hacking.
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As far as any article I've seen, it was just a normal perfectly-constitutional grand jury.
There were no unsealed indictments. And general policy is don't talk about indictments that are not unsealed. And also by the date this indictment by grand jury was March this year. Though my guess the investigation went longer.
And there's already a push to argue that this will harm freedom of the press.
I think Sweden said they wouldn't extradite if the US asked, but this is a UK action. I don't remember the various positions the US government has had over the years.
This isn't a new argument. In fact this has been the argument of Assange's lawyer for a few years. It goes like this:
1)Wikileaks is an actual news site and its release of classified information is in the same sense as need to know like say The Pentagon Papers.
2)Any action taken against Assange or Wikileaks is an attack on the press and thus abridges the first amendment.
3)Because of this no action can or should be taken.
I think this is why the indictment is so narrow and focused on cracking a hashed password not on distribution of classified materials.
Also it requires the argument to be true that Wikileaks is a legitimate news website which is highly questionable to me.
Obama wasn't doing anything about the issue. Sessions made it a priority once he took office. That probably covers what you are thinking of here.
That was 7 years and an entire presidency ago.
I personally would still prefer he be extradited to Sweden
Oddly if he'd gone to Sweden to start with he'd be safer. It's harder to extradite from there.
People forget that the reason Daniel Ellsberg is a free man today is because the feds fucked up his case so badly as to fatally damage it,and not because his actions were somehow protected. Journalists who aid and abet crimes are engaging in criminal activity that they can be prosecuted for.
Assange was never a whistleblower, but a political actor - this is the point Colbert was making when he dropped kayfabe to tear into him.
Maybe he shouldn't have worked to Trump elected via illegal actions then. They are the ones that basically reopen the attempts to get him extradited. The previous admin was basically leaving him alone.
Yeah, Assange is using “whistleblower” as a shield to protect him from playing dirty with his politics, same as Cohen wanted to use his status as a “lawyer” so that attorney-client privilege would keep people from poking around too closely at all the shit he did.
Snowden is also living in Russia after handing over to Russia a shit ton of national security information and tools. Not exactly a person you should trust on any of this.
Assange is not a whistleblower and is not covered under any of those protections either.
Manning is a little more complicated but I do not see her as a real whistleblower but that is a personal opinion especially as someone who has worked in the foreign policy sector.
The irony of Snowden taking refuge in the nation responsible for that attack should not be lost on anyone.
Law and Order ≠ Justice
That elicits joy for me, for some reason.
Snowden has always been a doofus, which is how he ended up in that situation. So this take of his is not that surprising.
They were lying. Assange was always going to end in Guantanamo the second he left the embassy.
Also, another factor is that Ecuador has another president that would rather be on the US's side than against it. (Also, it means getting stuff from the US from an easy concession that costs Ecuador nothing).
He probably thought he would be safe indefinitely, regardless of what he did.
Should have cleaned the kitty litter, man.
Yeah, I think it tells me that he doesn't have any secret trap door bullshit way of getting out of this, and he knows how fucked he is.
I think that's what I'm picking up and getting giddy over.
I don't know why you think Assange is going to Gitmo.