I mean I only caught it once because I literally did Captain Marvel and then Endgame like a half hour afterwards and I was ready for fucking bed at that point so yes please I will go see it again.
(also put Captain Marvel back in theaters because while exhausting that was super fun)
On the plus side, they'd suddenly have a whole bunch of trained staff back.
Assuming that regulations weren't changed significantly over the five years
I know that I'd be in a tough spot if I tried to do my job using only 2014 information, and that's without 50% of the planet disappearing which I imagine would necessitate some sweeping changes
People that got dusted while on a plane got undusted in the middle of the air. People dusted in their cars or crosswalks on a busy intersection coming back during rush hour. People on a cruise undusted in the middle of the ocean.
More to worry about than insurance imo.
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IIRC, Nebula undoes it in the comics by making it never happen or some such which was a much cleaner fix. Actually she kinda screws up a bit, but then recovers nicely. Dunno why they brought them back after 5 years. Undo it seconds after the snap, but only the people at the fight remember it originally happening. Grist for the story mill I guess.
IIRC, Nebula undoes it in the comics by making it never happen or some such which was a much cleaner fix. Actually she kinda screws up a bit, but then recovers nicely. Dunno why they brought them back after 5 years. Undo it seconds after the snap, but only the people at the fight remember it originally happening. Grist for the story mill I guess.
they do it specifically so that all of the relationships, children, and etc. that happen in the following 5 years don't get undone.
most of the movie (like most comic books!) doesn't hold up to any amount of scrutiny. Which is fine because I don't care -too much- about comic book logic because I want to see a Valkyrie on a pegasus take down giant implausibly flying space aliens.
The movie gives a very clear reason for them not reversing everything and leaving the five year gap intact.
Also the Hulk says he bought everyone back safe so no, people didn't materialise in thin air. And if they reappeared at the exact point they disappeared they wouldn't have appeared in thin air anyway, they'd have appeared in space where the Earth used to be five years ago and died almost instantly.
IIRC, Nebula undoes it in the comics by making it never happen or some such which was a much cleaner fix. Actually she kinda screws up a bit, but then recovers nicely. Dunno why they brought them back after 5 years. Undo it seconds after the snap, but only the people at the fight remember it originally happening. Grist for the story mill I guess.
There were both in-story reasons and meta reasons for that. Not saying it's 100% defensible, but they exist.
Example: Tony Stark was super vehement about not undoing anything that happened after the Snap, as he wanted to protect his family. He even said something when Bruce was about to Unsnap, "remember, bring everyone back today."
There was also almost certainly a desire to avoid that "comic book feeling" where nothing serious ever actually lasts. The Snap had to actually happen and mean something, not just "we undid it and no one remembers anything bad." There were lots of people here and elsewhere hoping they didn't just do that.
And really, since the Mind Stone acts as a "benevolent wish interpreter" basically, we can just pretend that the Unsnap brought everyone back safely.
IIRC, Nebula undoes it in the comics by making it never happen or some such which was a much cleaner fix. Actually she kinda screws up a bit, but then recovers nicely. Dunno why they brought them back after 5 years. Undo it seconds after the snap, but only the people at the fight remember it originally happening. Grist for the story mill I guess.
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The movie's rules for time travel alleviate Tony's selfishness entirely, non? Don't undo any of the last five years to keep Morgan safe, but as they established time and again, you can't alter the past. Hulk couldn't unwind the years or edit everyone back in earlier than the moment he snapped.
The movie's rules for time travel alleviate Tony's selfishness entirely, non? Don't undo any of the last five years to keep Morgan safe, but as they established time and again, you can't alter the past. Hulk couldn't unwind the years or edit everyone back in earlier than the moment he snapped.
Infinity Stone time travel may not be the same as Quantum Zone time travel
Actually, even if they do, then that doesn't solve anything. Undo the Snap in the past and you've fixed a different timeline. Your present is still screwed
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There's a lot of good stories that can be told around the fallout of the snap and blip. Black Panther for one. Wakanda has been chugging along for five years without T'Challa and as importantly, without a Black Panther. The mountain tribe guy probably took over as king, and whatever plan T'Challa had for opening Wakanda to the outside world has gone in the garbage with the chaos of the snap turning them into a regional peacekeeper or having them battening down the hatches to try and keep their own situation from going pear shaped. Either way there's story hooks galore to be explored.
Most other film franchises have callbacks, the MCU has history.
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I'd rather BP come back and find Shuri is the Black Panther now, despite the wonky burn the flowers decision.
I am hoping that they acknowledge that someone else has been ruling Wakanda for longer than he was, so they might actually be better at it than he would be. I don't know who it was (maybe Okoye?), but the job of King and Black Panther wouldn't have to go together.
The movie gives a very clear reason for them not reversing everything and leaving the five year gap intact.
Also the Hulk says he bought everyone back safe so no, people didn't materialise in thin air. And if they reappeared at the exact point they disappeared they wouldn't have appeared in thin air anyway, they'd have appeared in space where the Earth used to be five years ago and died almost instantly.
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I'd rather BP come back and find Shuri is the Black Panther now, despite the wonky burn the flowers decision.
I am hoping that they acknowledge that someone else has been ruling Wakanda for longer than he was, so they might actually be better at it than he would be. I don't know who it was (maybe Okoye?), but the job of King and Black Panther wouldn't have to go together.
I don't think Okoye would want to rule.
M'Baku was around though.
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Also doing the Blip this way means they can now add Cassie Lang to team ant without having to wait ages.
I'd rather BP come back and find Shuri is the Black Panther now, despite the wonky burn the flowers decision.
I am hoping that they acknowledge that someone else has been ruling Wakanda for longer than he was, so they might actually be better at it than he would be. I don't know who it was (maybe Okoye?), but the job of King and Black Panther wouldn't have to go together.
I don't think Okoye would want to rule.
M'Baku was around though.
I could see M'baku both being the leader, and being super relieved when T'challa shows back up.
I wonder if old-Steve Rogers will make another appearance in the MCU or if this was truly the last we'll hear from him.
Give it another decade+ for them to be ready to pull out all the stops for the next big capstone movie (pardon the pun) and i'd be unsurprised to see Rodgers and other "Dead"characters make a return just for that movie. Plus, it'd be long enough that i think the actors would be more willing to put their hats back on for that moment, as it were.
I wonder if old-Steve Rogers will make another appearance in the MCU or if this was truly the last we'll hear from him.
Give it another decade+ for them to be ready to pull out all the stops for the next big capstone movie (pardon the pun) and i'd be unsurprised to see Rodgers and other "Dead"characters make a return just for that movie. Plus, it'd be long enough that i think the actors would be more willing to put their hats back on for that moment, as it were.
They could appear in one scene for millions of dollars, which is a good setup for them
There is definitely an opening for a battle against e.g. Kang in the past, during another time travel arc, where things look hopeless and then the villain's climactic attack is stopped cold with the iconic "BNNGGG," cue the swelling avengers theme, old man Cap raises his bearded head from the shield, etc
Also doing the Blip this way means they can now add Cassie Lang to team ant without having to wait ages.
For that reason alone I'm good with it.
Just in general it helps their timeline issues. The year between Infinity War and End Game was a problem for them keeping it vaguely one to one-ish and the time jump lets them push a bunch of secondary characters up in age/storyline. Like, for example, what's Yang been up to? As basically the only other magic hero was he busy being fake Sorcerer Supreme?
Also doing the Blip this way means they can now add Cassie Lang to team ant without having to wait ages.
For that reason alone I'm good with it.
Just in general it helps their timeline issues. The year between Infinity War and End Game was a problem for them keeping it vaguely one to one-ish and the time jump lets them push a bunch of secondary characters up in age/storyline. Like, for example, what's Yang been up to? As basically the only other magic hero was he busy being fake Sorcerer Supreme?
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I see no reason to think Wong wasn't fully capable of taking up the slack left by Strange's dusting.
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I think the biggest problem with the gap, that's touched on in Far From Home, is all the collateral damage. You have billions coming back to a world that's moved on. Former significant others remarried, houses lost, belongings trashed or sold... it's an utter mess, all so Stark could keep his family. It just seems kind of selfish of him.
(A very Stark thing to do.)
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I think the biggest problem with the gap, that's touched on in Far From Home, is all the collateral damage. You have billions coming back to a world that's moved on. Former significant others remarried, houses lost, belongings trashed or sold... it's an utter mess, all so Stark could keep his family. It just seems kind of selfish of him.
(A very Stark thing to do.)
I mean, I don't know if Hulk could have done it the other way. Doing it as is nearly killed him.
I think the biggest problem with the gap, that's touched on in Far From Home, is all the collateral damage. You have billions coming back to a world that's moved on. Former significant others remarried, houses lost, belongings trashed or sold... it's an utter mess, all so Stark could keep his family. It just seems kind of selfish of him.
(A very Stark thing to do.)
Well, also so that everyone else could keep their families, and there's no telling what would have happened if they tried to bring everyone back in the past (if it works like Quantum Realm time, then no one would get brought back at all as far as the MCU world could tell).
I think the biggest problem with the gap, that's touched on in Far From Home, is all the collateral damage. You have billions coming back to a world that's moved on. Former significant others remarried, houses lost, belongings trashed or sold... it's an utter mess, all so Stark could keep his family. It just seems kind of selfish of him.
(A very Stark thing to do.)
I mean, you realize there were other people like Stark? That had families and lives after the Snap? It's unfair to everyone who survives to undo 5 years if their lives, just to undo the whole mess. It is absolutely enough they were brought back, without undoing all the other parts. People grew during that time. Yeah, it's a logistical nightmare, but think of all the kids whose parents came back. I doubt they care their mom remarried, they're just glad to have their dad back
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I think the biggest problem with the gap, that's touched on in Far From Home, is all the collateral damage. You have billions coming back to a world that's moved on. Former significant others remarried, houses lost, belongings trashed or sold... it's an utter mess, all so Stark could keep his family. It just seems kind of selfish of him.
(A very Stark thing to do.)
I mean, you realize there were other people like Stark? That had families and lives after the Snap? It's unfair to everyone who survives to undo 5 years if their lives, just to undo the whole mess. It is absolutely enough they were brought back, without undoing all the other parts. People grew during that time. Yeah, it's a logistical nightmare, but think of all the kids whose parents came back. I doubt they care their mom remarried, they're just glad to have their dad back
I think if people could forget the five years of trauma in exchange to lose what they'd gained, they'd pick that.
(It's also touched on in the comics where it's happily ever after, most forget all about it, but some remember and it's maddening.)
Also, what about people who died as a result of the snap but weren't actually snapped? Mental health issues alone would have been through the roof.
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(also put Captain Marvel back in theaters because while exhausting that was super fun)
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Assuming that regulations weren't changed significantly over the five years
I know that I'd be in a tough spot if I tried to do my job using only 2014 information, and that's without 50% of the planet disappearing which I imagine would necessitate some sweeping changes
More to worry about than insurance imo.
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they do it specifically so that all of the relationships, children, and etc. that happen in the following 5 years don't get undone.
most of the movie (like most comic books!) doesn't hold up to any amount of scrutiny. Which is fine because I don't care -too much- about comic book logic because I want to see a Valkyrie on a pegasus take down giant implausibly flying space aliens.
Also the Hulk says he bought everyone back safe so no, people didn't materialise in thin air. And if they reappeared at the exact point they disappeared they wouldn't have appeared in thin air anyway, they'd have appeared in space where the Earth used to be five years ago and died almost instantly.
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There were both in-story reasons and meta reasons for that. Not saying it's 100% defensible, but they exist.
Example: Tony Stark was super vehement about not undoing anything that happened after the Snap, as he wanted to protect his family. He even said something when Bruce was about to Unsnap, "remember, bring everyone back today."
There was also almost certainly a desire to avoid that "comic book feeling" where nothing serious ever actually lasts. The Snap had to actually happen and mean something, not just "we undid it and no one remembers anything bad." There were lots of people here and elsewhere hoping they didn't just do that.
And really, since the Mind Stone acts as a "benevolent wish interpreter" basically, we can just pretend that the Unsnap brought everyone back safely.
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Okay, you be the one to tell people that you killed their future children out of existence. Depending on who you tell, you may get a laser through the chest.
Infinity Stone time travel may not be the same as Quantum Zone time travel
Actually, even if they do, then that doesn't solve anything. Undo the Snap in the past and you've fixed a different timeline. Your present is still screwed
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Most other film franchises have callbacks, the MCU has history.
Pretty sure Shuri got snapped as well, which is a shame.
She had a black and white poster, so yeah, snapped.
Instead we'll get a damn prequel. They should hire you.
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I am hoping that they acknowledge that someone else has been ruling Wakanda for longer than he was, so they might actually be better at it than he would be. I don't know who it was (maybe Okoye?), but the job of King and Black Panther wouldn't have to go together.
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I don't think Okoye would want to rule.
M'Baku was around though.
For that reason alone I'm good with it.
I could see M'baku both being the leader, and being super relieved when T'challa shows back up.
Give it another decade+ for them to be ready to pull out all the stops for the next big capstone movie (pardon the pun) and i'd be unsurprised to see Rodgers and other "Dead"characters make a return just for that movie. Plus, it'd be long enough that i think the actors would be more willing to put their hats back on for that moment, as it were.
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They could appear in one scene for millions of dollars, which is a good setup for them
There is definitely an opening for a battle against e.g. Kang in the past, during another time travel arc, where things look hopeless and then the villain's climactic attack is stopped cold with the iconic "BNNGGG," cue the swelling avengers theme, old man Cap raises his bearded head from the shield, etc
Just in general it helps their timeline issues. The year between Infinity War and End Game was a problem for them keeping it vaguely one to one-ish and the time jump lets them push a bunch of secondary characters up in age/storyline. Like, for example, what's Yang been up to? As basically the only other magic hero was he busy being fake Sorcerer Supreme?
I see no reason to think Wong wasn't fully capable of taking up the slack left by Strange's dusting.
(A very Stark thing to do.)
I mean, I don't know if Hulk could have done it the other way. Doing it as is nearly killed him.
Well, also so that everyone else could keep their families, and there's no telling what would have happened if they tried to bring everyone back in the past (if it works like Quantum Realm time, then no one would get brought back at all as far as the MCU world could tell).
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I mean, you realize there were other people like Stark? That had families and lives after the Snap? It's unfair to everyone who survives to undo 5 years if their lives, just to undo the whole mess. It is absolutely enough they were brought back, without undoing all the other parts. People grew during that time. Yeah, it's a logistical nightmare, but think of all the kids whose parents came back. I doubt they care their mom remarried, they're just glad to have their dad back
I think if people could forget the five years of trauma in exchange to lose what they'd gained, they'd pick that.
(It's also touched on in the comics where it's happily ever after, most forget all about it, but some remember and it's maddening.)
Also, what about people who died as a result of the snap but weren't actually snapped? Mental health issues alone would have been through the roof.