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[Bad News Gone Right]: The Return

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  • KruiteKruite Registered User regular
    Zilla360 wrote: »
    Blarghy wrote: »
    Apparently, botox might help erectile dysfunction by relaxing the muscles and allowing blood to flow in more easily (and increasing the flacid size, too).
    Speaking of deadly neurotoxins... This story is another one of those examples of why I think people should at least pass basic GCSE/secondary/high school biology before being allowed to buy (or handle) exotic aquatic species as pets:
    ...She criticised the lack of information she received when she bought the coral - admitting she was not told, and did not know, it was a living organism.

    What in the heck did she think Coral was?! Something made in a factory for decorative purposes? Something pooped out by Unicorns? :bigfrown:

    TLDR;

    Bad news: She almost died and/or poisoned her entire family, plus the paramedics who went into her home, saving her and also her partner.

    Good news: They all survived, but only just barely dodging a Darwin Award by a hair's trigger. :rotate:

    I would like to know why the hell they were scrubbing the coral to begin with.

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  • DevoutlyApatheticDevoutlyApathetic Registered User regular
    Kruite wrote: »
    Zilla360 wrote: »
    Blarghy wrote: »
    Apparently, botox might help erectile dysfunction by relaxing the muscles and allowing blood to flow in more easily (and increasing the flacid size, too).
    Speaking of deadly neurotoxins... This story is another one of those examples of why I think people should at least pass basic GCSE/secondary/high school biology before being allowed to buy (or handle) exotic aquatic species as pets:
    ...She criticised the lack of information she received when she bought the coral - admitting she was not told, and did not know, it was a living organism.

    What in the heck did she think Coral was?! Something made in a factory for decorative purposes? Something pooped out by Unicorns? :bigfrown:

    TLDR;

    Bad news: She almost died and/or poisoned her entire family, plus the paramedics who went into her home, saving her and also her partner.

    Good news: They all survived, but only just barely dodging a Darwin Award by a hair's trigger. :rotate:

    I would like to know why the hell they were scrubbing the coral to begin with.

    Their fish died. They needed to get all the poison off those rocks in the tank!

    Zilla360Fry
  • bowenbowen How you doin'? Registered User regular
    Madican wrote: »
    I knew coral was alive but I didn't know it had such a hardcore defense system

    I was a biology major for a bit before I dropped out and switched to software... and yeah this was literally the first time I've heard of them spitting out fucking airborne neurotoxins.

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  • VishNubVishNub Registered User regular
    bowen wrote: »
    Madican wrote: »
    I knew coral was alive but I didn't know it had such a hardcore defense system

    I was a biology major for a bit before I dropped out and switched to software... and yeah this was literally the first time I've heard of them spitting out fucking airborne neurotoxins.

    It's not airborne. More likely it's in the water and scrubbing the tank splashes or forms a mist.

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  • SanderJKSanderJK Crocodylus Pontifex Sinterklasicus Madrid, 3000 ADRegistered User regular
    https://nos.nl/artikel/2296755-politie-stuurt-per-ongeluk-sms-bericht-met-link-naar-pornowebsite.html

    This is in Dutch, but it's hilarious

    "Police accidently sends SMS with link to Porn website"

    In the Netherlands, the police have the ability to send SMS messages to a zones around telephone poles.
    In the city of NieuwLeusen, the police wanted to do this.
    There had been a fire, with suspicion of arson. So they set up a special form, composed a message asking for witnesses.
    They used bit.ly to shorten their URL.

    Unfortunately, their total message was 142 characters long, and it ended in the bit.ly/ url
    Their software automatically shortened it by cutting off the last 2 digits of the link
    That bit.ly link was a porn website
    A small comfort: The website did have an "Are you 18+ splash screen"

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  • Captain InertiaCaptain Inertia Registered User regular
    I mean, that would have been perfectly normal in parts of Amsterdam

  • NebulousQNebulousQ Registered User regular
    MichaelLC wrote: »
    Gone right, GONE RIGHT, quick!!!

    Umm... 100 year-old church gets new life as high-end condos?

    https://chicago.curbed.com/2019/8/6/20757368/ukrainian-village-church-condo-conversion-revival

    dieo6g0237py.jpg

    Since it was declared a Landmark, they had to keep a lot of the architecture and use an expert in church restoration.

    That looks like a really cool and interesting place to live!

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  • L Ron HowardL Ron Howard Registered User regular
    Mortious wrote: »
    Heracles the 'largest parrot ever'

    The Bad:
    A fossil of the world's largest extinct parrot has been uncovered in Central Otago.

    Experts believe the huge bird was around 1 metre tall and weighed around 7kg.

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    The Good:
    It's been extinct for 19 million years.

    Polly GETS a cracker, you hear?

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  • MichaelLCMichaelLC In what furnace was thy brain? ChicagoRegistered User regular
    edited August 9
    NebulousQ wrote: »
    MichaelLC wrote: »
    Gone right, GONE RIGHT, quick!!!

    Umm... 100 year-old church gets new life as high-end condos?

    https://chicago.curbed.com/2019/8/6/20757368/ukrainian-village-church-condo-conversion-revival

    dieo6g0237py.jpg

    Since it was declared a Landmark, they had to keep a lot of the architecture and use an expert in church restoration.

    That looks like a really cool and interesting place to live!

    For 600k to 1mil it can be yours! Wouod be so cool to have that as your front door:
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  • HevachHevach Registered User regular
    edited August 8
    Reinforcing my personal policy of never having a pet that could kill you on accident.

    To be fair, I'd broken a pretty serious rule of reef tanks: If it's alive and you aren't ABSOLUTELY SURE you know what it is, leave it the fuck alone. You can get all kinds of horrors on live rock or coral fragments. Captively grown coral and cultured live rock help, but since at some point the seed material has to come from nature, you never know what else is living on it. Had I left that nudibranch alone it probably would have gotten eaten before too long, or just up and died before it got big enough to be a danger. I had to go and squish it like a dumbass.

    I got lucky, though. Reef aquariums are potential horror shows. Fresh water, the worst thing that can happen to you is pond snails, and they're pretty harmless (and skunk loaches will mercilessly hunt them all down if you hate it). Salt water, you might build a nice pretty tank and then one day realize some egg that came in on your corals or live rock grew into something like this:




    I've gone back to freshwater. Love my planted tank, huge and cheap to run (except when I get on a spree of adding fish and drop a couple paychecks into it). That reef tank was small and cost almost as much as one of my kids.

    Hevach on
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  • VishNubVishNub Registered User regular
    Fear the mighty bobbit

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  • Brovid HasselsmofBrovid Hasselsmof [Growling historic on the fury road] Registered User regular
    Humans were not meant to fuck with the ocean. That there is an infiltration agent of the deep ones.

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  • Phoenix-DPhoenix-D Registered User regular
    edited August 8
    .

    Phoenix-D on
  • Stabbity StyleStabbity Style Warning: Mothership Reporting Richland, WARegistered User regular
    Gweh, I hate everything about that D: D: D:

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  • JragghenJragghen Registered User regular
    MichaelLC wrote: »
    I mean, the sent out a hot message so...
    NebulousQ wrote: »
    MichaelLC wrote: »
    Gone right, GONE RIGHT, quick!!!

    Umm... 100 year-old church gets new life as high-end condos?

    https://chicago.curbed.com/2019/8/6/20757368/ukrainian-village-church-condo-conversion-revival

    dieo6g0237py.jpg

    Since it was declared a Landmark, they had to keep a lot of the architecture and use an expert in church restoration.

    That looks like a really cool and interesting place to live!

    For 600k to 1mil it can be yours! Wouod be so cool to have that as your front door:
    w6i5a8pi5qio.jpg

    I'm an old because my first thought was "the a/c bill for that must be fucking obnoxious".

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  • [Expletive deleted][Expletive deleted] The mediocre doctor NorwayRegistered User regular
    Well, I'm never going near the water, or an aquarium, ever again.

    Sic transit gloria mundi.
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  • FoefallerFoefaller Registered User regular
    VishNub wrote: »
    Fear the mighty bobbit


    That's some straight up horror show footage.

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  • HevachHevach Registered User regular
    Foefaller wrote: »
    VishNub wrote: »
    Fear the mighty bobbit


    That's some straight up horror show footage.

    The common name comes from a woman who cut off her abusive husband's penis. It's scientific name is Eunice (a female name meaning victory or conquest) aphrodoitis (the Greek goddess of love).

    Basically, the scientist who named this thing wants to make sure you have a VERY SPECIFIC nightmare about it.

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  • see317see317 Registered User regular
    Hevach wrote: »
    Foefaller wrote: »
    VishNub wrote: »
    Fear the mighty bobbit


    That's some straight up horror show footage.

    The common name comes from a woman who cut off her abusive husband's penis. It's scientific name is Eunice (a female name meaning victory or conquest) aphrodoitis (the Greek goddess of love).

    Basically, the scientist who named this thing wants to make sure you have a VERY SPECIFIC nightmare about it.

    Seems overkill, because if I ever saw the thing, I'd likely have all the nightmares about it, not just that one very specific one.

    Ringo wrote: »
    Well except what see317 said. That guy's always wrong.
  • HevachHevach Registered User regular
    edited August 8
    see317 wrote: »
    Hevach wrote: »
    Foefaller wrote: »
    VishNub wrote: »
    Fear the mighty bobbit


    That's some straight up horror show footage.

    The common name comes from a woman who cut off her abusive husband's penis. It's scientific name is Eunice (a female name meaning victory or conquest) aphrodoitis (the Greek goddess of love).

    Basically, the scientist who named this thing wants to make sure you have a VERY SPECIFIC nightmare about it.

    Seems overkill, because if I ever saw the thing, I'd likely have all the nightmares about it, not just that one very specific one.

    Biologists don't do subtle very well. The grizzly bear's common name translates as "bear horrible bear," and the Eurasian brown bear's is, "bear bear bear."

    "Victorious love worm," is about as obscure as it gets.

    Hevach on
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  • Captain InertiaCaptain Inertia Registered User regular
    Bear bear bear.

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  • TynnanTynnan seldom correct, never unsure Registered User regular
    Bear bear bear.

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  • TNTrooperTNTrooper Registered User regular
    Hevach wrote: »
    Foefaller wrote: »
    VishNub wrote: »
    Fear the mighty bobbit


    That's some straight up horror show footage.

    The common name comes from a woman who cut off her abusive husband's penis. It's scientific name is Eunice (a female name meaning victory or conquest) aphrodoitis (the Greek goddess of love).

    Basically, the scientist who named this thing wants to make sure you have a VERY SPECIFIC nightmare about it.

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  • DevoutlyApatheticDevoutlyApathetic Registered User regular
    I mean it's not airborne because their life cycle is all underwater.
    Hevach wrote: »
    see317 wrote: »
    Hevach wrote: »
    Foefaller wrote: »
    VishNub wrote: »
    Fear the mighty bobbit


    That's some straight up horror show footage.

    The common name comes from a woman who cut off her abusive husband's penis. It's scientific name is Eunice (a female name meaning victory or conquest) aphrodoitis (the Greek goddess of love).

    Basically, the scientist who named this thing wants to make sure you have a VERY SPECIFIC nightmare about it.

    Seems overkill, because if I ever saw the thing, I'd likely have all the nightmares about it, not just that one very specific one.

    Biologists don't do subtle very well. The grizzly bear's common name translates as "bear horrible bear," and the Eurasian brown bear's is, "bear bear bear."

    "Victorious love worm," is about as obscure as it gets.

    To be fair "Bear" is thought to come from a word for "brown" because the original name of bears was thought to summon them and everybody thought they were scary as fuck so just referred to them as "brown one".
    I guess this theory has become doubtful recently but I don't care, I find it amusing that they're brown brown browns.

  • FiendishrabbitFiendishrabbit Registered User regular
    I mean it's not airborne because their life cycle is all underwater.
    Hevach wrote: »
    see317 wrote: »
    Hevach wrote: »
    Foefaller wrote: »
    VishNub wrote: »
    Fear the mighty bobbit


    That's some straight up horror show footage.

    The common name comes from a woman who cut off her abusive husband's penis. It's scientific name is Eunice (a female name meaning victory or conquest) aphrodoitis (the Greek goddess of love).

    Basically, the scientist who named this thing wants to make sure you have a VERY SPECIFIC nightmare about it.

    Seems overkill, because if I ever saw the thing, I'd likely have all the nightmares about it, not just that one very specific one.

    Biologists don't do subtle very well. The grizzly bear's common name translates as "bear horrible bear," and the Eurasian brown bear's is, "bear bear bear."

    "Victorious love worm," is about as obscure as it gets.

    To be fair "Bear" is thought to come from a word for "brown" because the original name of bears was thought to summon them and everybody thought they were scary as fuck so just referred to them as "brown one".
    I guess this theory has become doubtful recently but I don't care, I find it amusing that they're brown brown browns.

    No. It has pretty firm etymological support given how far back in history the split happened. At some point during protogermanic the original work for bear became a taboo word and replaced by Bero, "the brown one". Before that bears were called "rkto", which we can see in ancient greek where bears are called arktos.
    "rkto" is in itself probably a taboo name since it has its roots in a proto-indoeuropean word meaning "the destroyer".

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  • VishNubVishNub Registered User regular
    Bears are metal af

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  • Captain InertiaCaptain Inertia Registered User regular
    edited August 9
    Do a buncha nerds post in the woods

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    Don’t be silly there’s no internet in the woods

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  • DevoutlyApatheticDevoutlyApathetic Registered User regular
    I mean it's not airborne because their life cycle is all underwater.
    Hevach wrote: »
    see317 wrote: »
    Hevach wrote: »
    Foefaller wrote: »
    VishNub wrote: »
    Fear the mighty bobbit


    That's some straight up horror show footage.

    The common name comes from a woman who cut off her abusive husband's penis. It's scientific name is Eunice (a female name meaning victory or conquest) aphrodoitis (the Greek goddess of love).

    Basically, the scientist who named this thing wants to make sure you have a VERY SPECIFIC nightmare about it.

    Seems overkill, because if I ever saw the thing, I'd likely have all the nightmares about it, not just that one very specific one.

    Biologists don't do subtle very well. The grizzly bear's common name translates as "bear horrible bear," and the Eurasian brown bear's is, "bear bear bear."

    "Victorious love worm," is about as obscure as it gets.

    To be fair "Bear" is thought to come from a word for "brown" because the original name of bears was thought to summon them and everybody thought they were scary as fuck so just referred to them as "brown one".
    I guess this theory has become doubtful recently but I don't care, I find it amusing that they're brown brown browns.

    No. It has pretty firm etymological support given how far back in history the split happened. At some point during protogermanic the original work for bear became a taboo word and replaced by Bero, "the brown one". Before that bears were called "rkto", which we can see in ancient greek where bears are called arktos.
    "rkto" is in itself probably a taboo name since it has its roots in a proto-indoeuropean word meaning "the destroyer".

    When I googled to confirm my memory on this wikitionary mentioned this:
    However, Ringe (2006:106) doubts the existence of a root *bʰer- meaning "brown" ("an actual PIE word of [the requisite] shape and meaning is not recoverable") and suggests that a derivation from Proto-Indo-European *ǵʰwer- (“wild animal”) "should therefore perhaps be preferred", implying a Germanic merger of *ǵʰw and *gʷʰ (*gʷʰ may sometimes result in Germanic *b, perhaps e.g. in *bidjaną, but it also seems to have given the g in gun and the w in warm).

    Which is frankly over my head and I don't super care. It's still plausible to say they're brown brown browns and I'm gonna stick with that.

  • FryFry Registered User regular
    Bear bear bear.

    Bears repeating.

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    Another fun taxonomic example I've been a fan of for since learning it in Gabriel Knight 2 is the Eurasian Grey Wolf which is canis lupus lupus.

    Whose a good dog wolf wolf, huh?!

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  • MichaelLCMichaelLC In what furnace was thy brain? ChicagoRegistered User regular
    edited August 9
    VishNub wrote: »
    Bears are metal af
    Definitely:
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    Another fun taxonomic example I've been a fan of for since learning it in Gabriel Knight 2 is the Eurasian Grey Wolf which is canis lupus lupus.

    Whose a good dog wolf wolf, huh?!

    The Western lowland gorilla is gorilla gorilla gorilla

    Also, the boa constrictor is the only animal whose common name is identical to its taxonomic name

  • Brovid HasselsmofBrovid Hasselsmof [Growling historic on the fury road] Registered User regular
    edited August 9
    There's also hippopotamus. And... gorilla.

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  • Brovid HasselsmofBrovid Hasselsmof [Growling historic on the fury road] Registered User regular
    edited August 9
    Although saying "its common name" like there's only one is meaningless anyway. Its common name where and with whom. That's the whole reason for specific names.

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    No. It has pretty firm etymological support given how far back in history the split happened. At some point during protogermanic the original work for bear became a taboo word and replaced by Bero, "the brown one". Before that bears were called "rkto", which we can see in ancient greek where bears are called arktos.
    "rkto" is in itself probably a taboo name since it has its roots in a proto-indoeuropean word meaning "the destroyer".

    This is called a "noa word"! Basically "safe" names to use.

    In older Swedish we have Hin Håle, a noa word for Satan, that means "the hard one". "Hin" itself means "the other" or "that one", and we have the word "hinsides", meaning "the other side", as in "that's on the other side of...", which originally meant "yep, in the spirit realm".

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  • Rhesus PositiveRhesus Positive GNU Terry Pratchett Registered User regular
    There's also hippopotamus. And... gorilla.

    It's not called the "gorilla gorilla" usually, I mean

    Although your second point is a good one :P

  • HevachHevach Registered User regular
    edited August 9
    I mean it's not airborne because their life cycle is all underwater.
    Hevach wrote: »
    see317 wrote: »
    Hevach wrote: »
    Foefaller wrote: »
    VishNub wrote: »
    Fear the mighty bobbit


    That's some straight up horror show footage.

    The common name comes from a woman who cut off her abusive husband's penis. It's scientific name is Eunice (a female name meaning victory or conquest) aphrodoitis (the Greek goddess of love).

    Basically, the scientist who named this thing wants to make sure you have a VERY SPECIFIC nightmare about it.

    Seems overkill, because if I ever saw the thing, I'd likely have all the nightmares about it, not just that one very specific one.

    Biologists don't do subtle very well. The grizzly bear's common name translates as "bear horrible bear," and the Eurasian brown bear's is, "bear bear bear."

    "Victorious love worm," is about as obscure as it gets.

    To be fair "Bear" is thought to come from a word for "brown" because the original name of bears was thought to summon them and everybody thought they were scary as fuck so just referred to them as "brown one".
    I guess this theory has become doubtful recently but I don't care, I find it amusing that they're brown brown browns.

    No. It has pretty firm etymological support given how far back in history the split happened. At some point during protogermanic the original work for bear became a taboo word and replaced by Bero, "the brown one". Before that bears were called "rkto", which we can see in ancient greek where bears are called arktos.
    "rkto" is in itself probably a taboo name since it has its roots in a proto-indoeuropean word meaning "the destroyer".

    When I googled to confirm my memory on this wikitionary mentioned this:
    However, Ringe (2006:106) doubts the existence of a root *bʰer- meaning "brown" ("an actual PIE word of [the requisite] shape and meaning is not recoverable") and suggests that a derivation from Proto-Indo-European *ǵʰwer- (“wild animal”) "should therefore perhaps be preferred", implying a Germanic merger of *ǵʰw and *gʷʰ (*gʷʰ may sometimes result in Germanic *b, perhaps e.g. in *bidjaną, but it also seems to have given the g in gun and the w in warm).

    Which is frankly over my head and I don't super care. It's still plausible to say they're brown brown browns and I'm gonna stick with that.

    The subspecies name is Ursus arctos arctos. Arctos is related to the pre-brown word for bear, and ursus is probably unrelated to either, being "bear" from a whole other language group.

    Hevach on
  • JacobyJacoby Registered User regular
    “It’s a gorilla. But not any gorilla. It’s like, a gorilla gorilla.”

    “A gorilla gorilla gorilla?”

    “Exactly.”

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  • FiendishrabbitFiendishrabbit Registered User regular
    Hevach wrote: »
    I mean it's not airborne because their life cycle is all underwater.
    Hevach wrote: »
    see317 wrote: »
    Hevach wrote: »
    Foefaller wrote: »
    VishNub wrote: »
    Fear the mighty bobbit


    That's some straight up horror show footage.

    The common name comes from a woman who cut off her abusive husband's penis. It's scientific name is Eunice (a female name meaning victory or conquest) aphrodoitis (the Greek goddess of love).

    Basically, the scientist who named this thing wants to make sure you have a VERY SPECIFIC nightmare about it.

    Seems overkill, because if I ever saw the thing, I'd likely have all the nightmares about it, not just that one very specific one.

    Biologists don't do subtle very well. The grizzly bear's common name translates as "bear horrible bear," and the Eurasian brown bear's is, "bear bear bear."

    "Victorious love worm," is about as obscure as it gets.

    To be fair "Bear" is thought to come from a word for "brown" because the original name of bears was thought to summon them and everybody thought they were scary as fuck so just referred to them as "brown one".
    I guess this theory has become doubtful recently but I don't care, I find it amusing that they're brown brown browns.

    No. It has pretty firm etymological support given how far back in history the split happened. At some point during protogermanic the original work for bear became a taboo word and replaced by Bero, "the brown one". Before that bears were called "rkto", which we can see in ancient greek where bears are called arktos.
    "rkto" is in itself probably a taboo name since it has its roots in a proto-indoeuropean word meaning "the destroyer".

    When I googled to confirm my memory on this wikitionary mentioned this:
    However, Ringe (2006:106) doubts the existence of a root *bʰer- meaning "brown" ("an actual PIE word of [the requisite] shape and meaning is not recoverable") and suggests that a derivation from Proto-Indo-European *ǵʰwer- (“wild animal”) "should therefore perhaps be preferred", implying a Germanic merger of *ǵʰw and *gʷʰ (*gʷʰ may sometimes result in Germanic *b, perhaps e.g. in *bidjaną, but it also seems to have given the g in gun and the w in warm).

    Which is frankly over my head and I don't super care. It's still plausible to say they're brown brown browns and I'm gonna stick with that.

    The subspecies name is Ursus arctos arctos. Arctos is related to the pre-brown word for bear, and ursus is probably unrelated to either.

    Ursus comes from rktos/arktos. The roman pronounciation is much closer to the proto-italic "orssos", which is in itself rktos where the "kt" has softened into a s-like sound.

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