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  • milk ducksmilk ducks Registered User regular
    PATCH NOTES, BOYS

    Big ass Imperius buffs and a pretty comprehensive Xul rework.

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  • MNC DoverMNC Dover Game Designer/Stay-at-home Dad Seattle, WARegistered User regular
    edited March 11
    Edit: Dammit Ducks!

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  • Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver Registered User, ClubPA regular
    No deathwing changes

    fair and balanced hero

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  • DibbyDibby I'll do my best! Registered User regular
    edited March 11
    Press Forward and Brand of Solarion might be actual legitimate talent picks now, wow.

    It was hard to pass up Sovereign Armor because that 25 Armor would mean you weren't paper thin anymore. But now you can trade 15 armor off for essentially 10 psuedo permanent armor+psuedo perma health globe regen. I think that'll be a good talent now.

    Brand of Solarion was a very novel idea before but at a 3 second duration it meant it actually didn't get any value at all. It was by all definitions a trap talent. At 5 seconds it will be worth picking. You can get a LOT more autos off in a 5 second window than a 3 second window.

    Very cool.



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    Spectral Scythe [Q]
    Additional functionality: Hitting enemy Heroes spawns a Skeletal Warrior.

    Skeletal Warriors now explode, dealing 50 damage to nearby enemies when they die.

    Level 4
    Reaper’s Toll [Q]
    Quest component removed.
    Cooldown reduction reduced from 3 to 2 seconds.
    Mana cost reduction reduced from 20 to 15.

    Level 13
    Amplify Damage [E]
    Moved from Level 16.
    Duration increased from 1.75 to 2 seconds.
    Additional functionality: Increase the duration of Bone Prison’s Root by .25 seconds.

    Cold Hand of Death [R2]
    No longer causes Skeletal Warriors to Slow enemies.
    Additional functionality: Every 5th Spectral Scythe that hits enemy Heroes spawns a Frost Mage instead of a Skeletal Warrior at their location.


    Y'ALLLLLL I'M SWEATINNNNN THESE CHANGES ARE SPICY HOO BOY



    dub edit:
    Level 20
    Light of Stormwind [R1]
    New functionality: While inside Holy Word: Salvation, Anduin’s allies are Invulnerable.

    UHHHHHH does this mean Anduin can't be interrupted out of Salvation anymore o_O

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  • Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver Registered User, ClubPA regular
    Dibby wrote: »
    Press Forward and Brand of Solarion might be actual legitimate talent picks now, wow.

    It was hard to pass up Sovereign Armor because that 25 Armor would mean you weren't paper thin anymore. But now you can trade 15 armor off for essentially 10 psuedo permanent armor+psuedo perma health globe regen. I think that'll be a good talent now.

    Brand of Solarion was a very novel idea before but at a 3 second duration it meant it actually didn't get any value at all. It was by all definitions a trap talent. At 5 seconds it will be worth picking. You can get a LOT more autos off in a 5 second window than a 3 second window.

    Very cool.



    edit:
    Spectral Scythe [Q]
    Additional functionality: Hitting enemy Heroes spawns a Skeletal Warrior.

    Skeletal Warriors now explode, dealing 50 damage to nearby enemies when they die.

    Level 4
    Reaper’s Toll [Q]
    Quest component removed.
    Cooldown reduction reduced from 3 to 2 seconds.
    Mana cost reduction reduced from 20 to 15.

    Level 13
    Amplify Damage [E]
    Moved from Level 16.
    Duration increased from 1.75 to 2 seconds.
    Additional functionality: Increase the duration of Bone Prison’s Root by .25 seconds.

    Cold Hand of Death [R2]
    No longer causes Skeletal Warriors to Slow enemies.
    Additional functionality: Every 5th Spectral Scythe that hits enemy Heroes spawns a Frost Mage instead of a Skeletal Warrior at their location.


    Y'ALLLLLL I'M SWEATINNNNN THESE CHANGES ARE SPICY HOO BOY



    dub edit:
    Level 20
    Light of Stormwind [R1]
    New functionality: While inside Holy Word: Salvation, Anduin’s allies are Invulnerable.

    UHHHHHH does this mean Anduin can't be interrupted out of Salvation anymore o_O

    No, because it says "Anduin's allies" and not anduin and his allies.

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  • DibbyDibby I'll do my best! Registered User regular
    edited March 11
    Dibby wrote: »
    Press Forward and Brand of Solarion might be actual legitimate talent picks now, wow.

    It was hard to pass up Sovereign Armor because that 25 Armor would mean you weren't paper thin anymore. But now you can trade 15 armor off for essentially 10 psuedo permanent armor+psuedo perma health globe regen. I think that'll be a good talent now.

    Brand of Solarion was a very novel idea before but at a 3 second duration it meant it actually didn't get any value at all. It was by all definitions a trap talent. At 5 seconds it will be worth picking. You can get a LOT more autos off in a 5 second window than a 3 second window.

    Very cool.



    edit:
    Spectral Scythe [Q]
    Additional functionality: Hitting enemy Heroes spawns a Skeletal Warrior.

    Skeletal Warriors now explode, dealing 50 damage to nearby enemies when they die.

    Level 4
    Reaper’s Toll [Q]
    Quest component removed.
    Cooldown reduction reduced from 3 to 2 seconds.
    Mana cost reduction reduced from 20 to 15.

    Level 13
    Amplify Damage [E]
    Moved from Level 16.
    Duration increased from 1.75 to 2 seconds.
    Additional functionality: Increase the duration of Bone Prison’s Root by .25 seconds.

    Cold Hand of Death [R2]
    No longer causes Skeletal Warriors to Slow enemies.
    Additional functionality: Every 5th Spectral Scythe that hits enemy Heroes spawns a Frost Mage instead of a Skeletal Warrior at their location.


    Y'ALLLLLL I'M SWEATINNNNN THESE CHANGES ARE SPICY HOO BOY



    dub edit:
    Level 20
    Light of Stormwind [R1]
    New functionality: While inside Holy Word: Salvation, Anduin’s allies are Invulnerable.

    UHHHHHH does this mean Anduin can't be interrupted out of Salvation anymore o_O

    No, because it says "Anduin's allies" and not anduin and his allies.

    then what is the point

    protected is functionally the same thing as invulnerable, what does that actually accomplish

    edit: CC immunity i guess but why does that matter if you're already not taking damage

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  • SeGaTaiSeGaTai Registered User regular
    So you can do more damage, or why you should just take sanctification.

    Look they need to try to buff it without actually making it good, have you been paying attention to how they balance

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  • Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver Registered User, ClubPA regular
    Dibby wrote: »
    Dibby wrote: »
    Press Forward and Brand of Solarion might be actual legitimate talent picks now, wow.

    It was hard to pass up Sovereign Armor because that 25 Armor would mean you weren't paper thin anymore. But now you can trade 15 armor off for essentially 10 psuedo permanent armor+psuedo perma health globe regen. I think that'll be a good talent now.

    Brand of Solarion was a very novel idea before but at a 3 second duration it meant it actually didn't get any value at all. It was by all definitions a trap talent. At 5 seconds it will be worth picking. You can get a LOT more autos off in a 5 second window than a 3 second window.

    Very cool.



    edit:
    Spectral Scythe [Q]
    Additional functionality: Hitting enemy Heroes spawns a Skeletal Warrior.

    Skeletal Warriors now explode, dealing 50 damage to nearby enemies when they die.

    Level 4
    Reaper’s Toll [Q]
    Quest component removed.
    Cooldown reduction reduced from 3 to 2 seconds.
    Mana cost reduction reduced from 20 to 15.

    Level 13
    Amplify Damage [E]
    Moved from Level 16.
    Duration increased from 1.75 to 2 seconds.
    Additional functionality: Increase the duration of Bone Prison’s Root by .25 seconds.

    Cold Hand of Death [R2]
    No longer causes Skeletal Warriors to Slow enemies.
    Additional functionality: Every 5th Spectral Scythe that hits enemy Heroes spawns a Frost Mage instead of a Skeletal Warrior at their location.


    Y'ALLLLLL I'M SWEATINNNNN THESE CHANGES ARE SPICY HOO BOY



    dub edit:
    Level 20
    Light of Stormwind [R1]
    New functionality: While inside Holy Word: Salvation, Anduin’s allies are Invulnerable.

    UHHHHHH does this mean Anduin can't be interrupted out of Salvation anymore o_O

    No, because it says "Anduin's allies" and not anduin and his allies.

    then what is the point

    protected is functionally the same thing as invulnerable, what does that actually accomplish

    edit: CC immunity i guess but why does that matter if you're already not taking damage

    Because they can block shots that would normally go through them and CC anduin.

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  • Inquisitor77Inquisitor77 2 x Penny Arcade Fight Club Champion A fixed point in space and timeRegistered User regular
    SeGaTai more like SalTeeTai amirite?

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  • Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver Registered User, ClubPA regular
    Oh whoops I actually had that wrong, so it makes it easier to hit anduin with CC.

    But acts as a cleanse I guess?

    Great ult, best in game, ten outta ten

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  • DibbyDibby I'll do my best! Registered User regular
    it's a good ult, munkus

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  • kimekime Queen of Blades Registered User regular
    AoE cleanse is something, yeah

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  • DibbyDibby I'll do my best! Registered User regular
    kime wrote: »
    AoE cleanse is something, yeah

    Does AoE cleanse matter if everyone's not taking any damage anyway though

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  • General_ArmchairGeneral_Armchair Registered User regular
    It could enable them to inflict damage back at the enemy, or withdraw to a safer location so that they aren't just KO'd once the ult ends or is interrupted.

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  • DibbyDibby I'll do my best! Registered User regular
    I mean if they wanted to solidify Varian's Legacy as The Pick this patch then they sure did it

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  • SeGaTaiSeGaTai Registered User regular
    The answer he was looking for was cleanse has never been useful in qm

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  • DibbyDibby I'll do my best! Registered User regular
    edited March 12
    SeGaTai wrote: »
    The answer he was looking for was cleanse has never been useful in qm

    :+1:

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  • Inquisitor77Inquisitor77 2 x Penny Arcade Fight Club Champion A fixed point in space and timeRegistered User regular
    SeGaTai wrote: »
    The answer he was looking for was cleanse has never been useful in qm

    See also: 99% of SL games

    Dibby
  • DibbyDibby I'll do my best! Registered User regular
    Oh hey look some news for SalTeeTai @SeGaTai

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    The first line is referencing the Azmodunk Q bug that causes it to travel slower.

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  • SeGaTaiSeGaTai Registered User regular
    edited March 12
    Would love to know what "several reasons" refers to for not including a bug fix (probably more stuff breaking).

    Glad they are getting around to fixing bugs "eventually"

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  • fortyforty Registered User regular
    SeGaTai wrote: »
    Would love to know what "several reasons" refers to for not including a bug fix
    1. Team gutted.
    2. Deadgame.

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  • milk ducksmilk ducks Registered User regular
    @Munkus Beaver hitting me up to step in and heal for an NGS scrim last night like Arathi Basin didn't go live yesterday on WoW Classic.

    Girl, you crazy.

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  • MNC DoverMNC Dover Game Designer/Stay-at-home Dad Seattle, WARegistered User regular
    I just had a game where our opponents didn't ban anything during draft. We draft a "normal" comp and they go: Nova, Valerra, Garrosh, Maiev, and Artanis. Poor waveclear, no healer. WTF?

    Then we get in game, and their Garrosh is nowhere to be seen. I'm soaking bot as Rag and the first obj spawns at top. I figured I'd clear the lane and then join, but Valerra and Artanis show bot/mid, so I stay there to get the soak figuring my team could handle the 3v5.

    But then something weird happens. Valerra heads down in to the bot merc camp. I was guessing she was checking to see if anyone was taking it. Then one of the mercs comes flying out of the smoke into the lane. I see Valerra leave, presumably heading top, and Artanis/Nova/Maiev at the shrine. So I poke my head in and see Garrosh on the camp.

    Well, he's sort of just standing there getting hit and occasionally hitting back. He never left, just hung around there hitting a merc every once in a while. We ended up smashing down both top Fort and Keep with the first Punisher. We ended up closing the game out with the next Punisher and a huge XP lead. During that push, the Garrosh threw their Maiev right into our deathball and she evaporated.

    Now I've seen some rage before, but this shit was next level. I'm guessing that lobby was full of serious salt and fire. Glad to be on the other side of it for a change.

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  • fortyforty Registered User regular
    I want to see the forum where that team's alternate dimension Dover is unleashing hellfire and brimstone via caps lock and swearing.

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  • DibbyDibby I'll do my best! Registered User regular
    edited March 13
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    i'm so fuckin happy with my boy's rework. SKELETONSSSSSSS

    i've tried both a Jailors/Q build and a full W build, they both seem really good. i'm honestly not really sold on Reaper's Toll still, to be perfectly honest. even without the quest component now. Jailors is just still fucking insane and provides a huge DPS increase on your E.

    his 16 tier is really really interesting now though with the additions of Decrepify and Weaken. Decrepify is insanely strong, a 40% slow for 2.5 seconds is fucking beefy as shit. Q slows, which spawns a skellington which also slows, and if you took Jailors then your E slows now too... it's just very very strong and lets Xul stay on his target. it's some prime fuckin' CC for when Skeletal Mages is down. Weaken is also very very strong, it's great for shutting down hypercarries, but also like, the entire enemy team, honestly. obviously has great synergy with W build but you can take it in any build, i think.

    Amplify Damage and Bone Spear are left in a sort of weird spot though. imo, i don't really see a reason to pick either of those two now. if you're going W build, you take Harvest, period the end. and Echoes has always always been strong and remains really strong especially with all the new Q synergy now (spawns more skellingtons, procs Decrepify, etc etc). so i don't see a reason to pick Amplify, you lose out on too much i think. and Bone Spear, like, why would i pass up on a psuedo-permanent 40% slow or 40% damage reduction? those are insane. i almost feel like Amplify and Bone Spear should maybe swap places, that'd make Amplify more of an appealing pick, but Bone Spear.... maybe not. maybe move Bone Spear to 20 and buff the damage to compensate. idk! maybe they're fine, i have no idea what the actual winrates look like yet, but personally speaking i'd never want to pick either of them as it is right now.

    Cold Hand of Death is pretty fuckin' nutty though especially with Echoes. you toss a Q into the whole enemy team and you're popping off Skeletal Mages left and right, it's nutty.

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  • MNC DoverMNC Dover Game Designer/Stay-at-home Dad Seattle, WARegistered User regular
    Gonna give Xul a try tonight. Thinking about the summon:soak build, but can’t decide if I want more Skeletons or ult cooldown.

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  • fortyforty Registered User regular
    Fuck Leoric in ARAM.

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  • MNC DoverMNC Dover Game Designer/Stay-at-home Dad Seattle, WARegistered User regular
    RUN, UTHER, RUN!

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  • MNC DoverMNC Dover Game Designer/Stay-at-home Dad Seattle, WARegistered User regular
    Fun interview with some artists that "accidentally" spoil an upcoming event.

    If you don't want to be surprised, don't open this spoiler (includes artwork):
    Greek Gods event. Original idea started with Uthor (Uther Thor), but blossomed with Zeus Cassia.
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  • The Escape GoatThe Escape Goat but not a real green dress, that's cruel Registered User regular
    how the fuck is cerberus a mount instead of a reghar skin

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  • Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver Registered User, ClubPA regular
    Give me pugberus plz

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    Fan playing a Blaze game. At one point, he cleared a lane then mounted up to check the enemy boss. I noticed an XP orb following him and he never stopped to collect it. Sadly, it died out of exhaustion. I commented about it and he replied. :)

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  • fortyforty Registered User regular
    how the fuck is cerberus a mount instead of a reghar skin
    Bipedal Cerberus would probably look stupid.

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  • WhelkWhelk Registered User regular
    forty wrote: »
    how the fuck is cerberus a mount instead of a reghar skin
    Bipedal Cerberus would probably look stupid.

    But Hades doesn't!

  • ArcTangentArcTangent Registered User regular
    forty wrote: »
    how the fuck is cerberus a mount instead of a reghar skin
    Bipedal Cerberus would probably look stupid.

    I would so be down with a goofy Greymane skin with two derpy fake heads on the shoulder pads.

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  • traibtraib Registered User regular
    If anyone out there is interested in getting into the competitive HotS scene, Arrogant Nephalem is looking for a substitute player or two for the next season of the Nexus Gaming Series. We're a team primarily made up of PA forumers in the Gold-Diamond range that plays in the evenings PST. No particular skill level or role required (though if you're comfortable on tank you'll make poor SeGaTai's life much easier).

    If you're interested in learning more, shoot me a message!

  • MNC DoverMNC Dover Game Designer/Stay-at-home Dad Seattle, WARegistered User regular
    traib wrote: »
    If anyone out there is interested in getting into the competitive HotS scene, Arrogant Nephalem is looking for a substitute player or two for the next season of the Nexus Gaming Series. We're a team primarily made up of PA forumers in the Gold-Diamond range that plays in the evenings PST. No particular skill level or role required (though if you're comfortable on tank you'll make poor SeGaTai's life much easier).

    If you're interested in learning more, shoot me a message!

    If I didn't have kids staying up late at night (8-9pm PST) and perpetually Bronze, I'd sign up.

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  • Lucid_SeraphLucid_Seraph TealDeer MarylandRegistered User regular
    fffffffffuck it I'm in quarantine I'll rearrange my hard drive and reinstall soon I guess

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  • tyrantula22tyrantula22 Registered User regular
    MNC Dover wrote: »
    If I didn't have kids staying up late at night (8-9pm PST) and perpetually Bronze, I'd sign up.

    I've been playing some ranked games lately with a friend on Saturday nights. We're just in silver so it's all the same mostly. Not sure you'd be on around then, but we're usually on around 8-1 (est) or so at night. If you're on and want to join up let me know. We can lose together!

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  • MNC DoverMNC Dover Game Designer/Stay-at-home Dad Seattle, WARegistered User regular
    MNC Dover wrote: »
    If I didn't have kids staying up late at night (8-9pm PST) and perpetually Bronze, I'd sign up.

    I've been playing some ranked games lately with a friend on Saturday nights. We're just in silver so it's all the same mostly. Not sure you'd be on around then, but we're usually on around 8-1 (est) or so at night. If you're on and want to join up let me know. We can lose together!

    Unfortunately, I don't get started playing until 9pm PST, so you'll probably be asleep by then. If not, I'll look for you or @kime to get some SL games in.

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