[Heroes of the Storm] Coronavirus can't kill HotS if it's already dead #rollsafe

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  • milk ducksmilk ducks Registered User regular
    RickRude wrote: »
    This thread gets more posts than the League of Legends thread. This game isn't dead.

    The League reddit has 25k users active right this second
    The HotS reddit has 1.4k

    Make of that information what you will.

  • KorrorKorror Registered User regular
    Hots is actually being kept alive by Milk Ducks efforts to proclaim it dead at this point.

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  • milk ducksmilk ducks Registered User regular
    edited March 30
    The sad thing is, you're right.

    Whenever I stop posting in this thread, it dies, for weeks and months at a time.

    You can go check the post dates.

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  • fortyforty Registered User regular
    I tried to get people talking about Xul being OP but it only got one post. So, like, what are the OP builds for Xul now? I'm not sure HeroesProfile is up to date since it still seems to show the old talents.

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  • milk ducksmilk ducks Registered User regular
    I basically play Xul exactly the same way I always did, as more or less full Q into Mortal Wound at 20. Sorry, I dont have access to talent names and everything right now: I'm at work, lol. I think his W build is pretty powerful, too. Though to be honest, it always was situationally strong. He's just as susceptible to being Blinded or otherwise CC'd and locked down as he always was, though. So I feel like Q is more consistently effective if perhaps less situationally powerful, but your mileage may vary.

  • Inquisitor77Inquisitor77 2 x Penny Arcade Fight Club Champion A fixed point in space and timeRegistered User regular
    Yeah from what I've seen Xul plays exactly the same except he can actually contribute to team fights and has some poke with Q.

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  • milk ducksmilk ducks Registered User regular
    Exactly, yeah. Nothing has changed except they've tacked additional functionality onto his kit, so he plays the same as he always did but now he can contribute meaningfully to teamfights.

  • DibbyDibby I'll do my best! Registered User regular
    edited March 30
    My usual go-to build is:

    - Whatever at 1 (they're all good, take as needed)
    - Jailors at 4
    - Trag'oul's at 7
    - Either at 10 (depends on if you need CC or just damage. i've been using Poison Nova a lot lately, it's quite good. Skeletal Mages is still good. it all just depends.)
    - Echoes of Death at 13
    - Decrepify OR Weaken at 16 (both are fantastic, it just depends on what you need. being able to keep essentially a pseudo-permanent 40% slow up on squishies is fuckin' NUTS though. Weaken to shutdown hypercarries and the like.)
    - Whatever you need at 20. Mortal Wound is great for shutting down healers/selfhealers, both Ult upgrades are fantastic, Kalan's Edict will get you a LOT more usage out of your Ult/Bone Armor.

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  • fortyforty Registered User regular
    Well that's not Q or W!

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  • milk ducksmilk ducks Registered User regular
    forty wrote: »
    Well that's not Q or W!

    lol, Dibby prefers Jailors at 4, because of the better solo burst potential (I tend to only take Backlash at 1, for the same reason), whereas I take the Q cooldown reduction for more consistent uptime on the 16/20 debuffs. Otherwise we favor essentially the same build.

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  • milk ducksmilk ducks Registered User regular
    edited March 30
    I will say, though, and it's difficult to tell without actually looking at my stats and really jumping into the data, but I feel like I've been more successful, and seen more success generally with Xul, before the patch. Which seems strange, because I think he's in a much better place. But I think it has a lot to do with the fact that I only ever played him before when he was situationally very powerful with regard to dual-soaking, like on Blackheart's Bay, or Sky Temple. And now, because he's generally regarded as being "super op", there's a tendency to try and fit him into every game and every comp. I don't know if that's the best approach.

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  • kimekime Queen of Blades Registered User regular
    I think Dibby's build is fun, because skellies! I don't think it's traditional per se.

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  • fortyforty Registered User regular
    I wish one of the W talents reduced mana costs. W build Xul burns through mana like fucking crazy and has to forgo all mana reduction/regain talents.

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  • milk ducksmilk ducks Registered User regular
    Yeah that's the other reason I tend not to play it.

    Also, I just had a look at Icy Veins' guide to Xul and it specifically states that you should never take Trag'oul's Essence, ever. Literally "this talent should not be picked in any scenario", which is the latest in a long line of reasons why Icy Veins is a resource that should never be trusted.

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  • DibbyDibby I'll do my best! Registered User regular
    This fuckin' idiot Genji in this game Ducks and I are in takes fucking Dragonblade (the win-more Ult that's NEVER good unless it goes 100% uncounterable which SURPRISE) and literally just stomps us all fucking game cause our comp is some dumb shit like Vikings/Deathwing/Imperius/Nova/Ana and the enemy team has a real-ass comp and he just

    fucking

    b-steps us

    all fucking game

    while they're coring

    just b-step b-step b-step

    like you're so cute dude you're so fucking cute with that like you completely and utterly stomped us and now you're pulling your dick out and waving it around for everyone to see. yes genji we all see your tiny dong, it's very nice, thank you.

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  • I needed a gnome to post.I needed a gnome to post. Registered User regular
    ArcTangent wrote: »
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    MNC Dover wrote: »
    RickRude wrote: »
    This thread gets more posts than the League of Legends thread. This game isn't dead.

    Wait, what? How is that even possible? I guess gaming popularity doesn’t convert to thread traffic.

    Well, yeah. The Fortnite thread here has had like four posts since December 2018.

    yeah something to recall is that the penny-arcade forums is a very specific group of self-selected people that does not translate to a representative sample of gaming communities at all

    for example, the fact that any of us even know what penny-arcade, a comic that is 22 years old, is

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  • GroveGrove Los AngelesRegistered User regular
    edited March 31
    Genji living rent free.
    I'd be mad too.

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  • General_ArmchairGeneral_Armchair Registered User regular
    ArcTangent wrote: »
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    MNC Dover wrote: »
    RickRude wrote: »
    This thread gets more posts than the League of Legends thread. This game isn't dead.

    Wait, what? How is that even possible? I guess gaming popularity doesn’t convert to thread traffic.

    Well, yeah. The Fortnite thread here has had like four posts since December 2018.

    yeah something to recall is that the penny-arcade forums is a very specific group of self-selected people that does not translate to a representative sample of gaming communities at all

    for example, the fact that any of us even know what penny-arcade, a comic that is 22 years old, is

    Honestly, given the popularity of the Penny Arcade Expos and assorted game announcements that take place there, I wouldn't be surprised if there are people here in this forum who don't know about the comic.

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  • milk ducksmilk ducks Registered User regular
    edited March 31
    No the only reason it's dumb is because there's no way we win that match, ever, regardless of player skill involved. Our team was --

    Lost Vikings
    Imperius
    Deathwing
    Ana
    Nova

    We literally got completely fucked by QM, and that's all there is to it. How does that comp fight into anything? It doesn't. It can't.

    Enemy team was like

    Genji
    Abathur
    Whitemane
    Leoric
    Xul

    (I think Xul was the last one, anyway; can't recall exactly, but the rest of the lineups are 100% correct).

    Genji / Abathur deletes any Viking that dares show up to a teamfight, and then he just starts resetting and popping off. I cannot, under any reliable circumstance, peel fucking Genji off of Ana, either. Leoric, likewise, can just spooky-walk up to Ana, put her in an Entomb, and his team blows her up. There's literally zero counterplay possible in that scenario, given the comps. Honestly, I don't give a fuck if you wanna b-step if you're clowning all over people --I really don't-- but if you're gonna b-step when all you fucking did was win an RNG roll, that's fucking dumb.

    Also we almost won that match. Which makes the b-stepping that much more fucking stupid.

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  • fortyforty Registered User regular
    milk ducks wrote: »
    Also we almost won that match. Which makes the b-stepping that much more fucking stupid.
    Sounds like the matchmaker did a good job then! :P

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    wait what comic

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  • MNC DoverMNC Dover Game Designer/Stay-at-home Dad Kirkland, WARegistered User regular
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  • I needed a gnome to post.I needed a gnome to post. Registered User regular
    NOW the game's dead

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  • MNC DoverMNC Dover Game Designer/Stay-at-home Dad Kirkland, WARegistered User regular
    Special thanks to @kime for making a smurf account specifically to help me climb. I can now play with up to Plats in ranked.

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  • DibbyDibby I'll do my best! Registered User regular
    MNC Dover wrote: »
    Special thanks to kime for making a smurf account specifically to help me climb. I can now play with up to Plats in ranked.

    i did tell you it was about gaming the system, no?

    congrats!

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  • DibbyDibby I'll do my best! Registered User regular
    milk ducks wrote: »
    No the only reason it's dumb is because there's no way we win that match, ever, regardless of player skill involved. Our team was --

    Lost Vikings
    Imperius
    Deathwing
    Ana
    Nova

    We literally got completely fucked by QM, and that's all there is to it. How does that comp fight into anything? It doesn't. It can't.

    Enemy team was like

    Genji
    Abathur
    Whitemane
    Leoric
    Xul

    (I think Xul was the last one, anyway; can't recall exactly, but the rest of the lineups are 100% correct).

    Genji / Abathur deletes any Viking that dares show up to a teamfight, and then he just starts resetting and popping off. I cannot, under any reliable circumstance, peel fucking Genji off of Ana, either. Leoric, likewise, can just spooky-walk up to Ana, put her in an Entomb, and his team blows her up. There's literally zero counterplay possible in that scenario, given the comps. Honestly, I don't give a fuck if you wanna b-step if you're clowning all over people --I really don't-- but if you're gonna b-step when all you fucking did was win an RNG roll, that's fucking dumb.

    Also we almost won that match. Which makes the b-stepping that much more fucking stupid.

    Yeeeeeah it was exactly those comps.

    Like, I had to sit in Worldbreaker form a good deal simply because we needed some amount of CC (and I'd get scooped if I entered melee in Destroyer). And for a while it was working... we'd be able to blow up the Xul or Whitemane or Leoric.... But not that Genji. He'd zip right past us, pop Dragonblade, make mincemeat of Ana/Nova/Vikes. I can't fucking CC him, that's like trying to CC a Tracer.

    We were doing okay up to a point but then 10s happened and we got hosed. Entomb Dragonblade eat shit. Team also just played like ass though, Nova constantly off on her own getting popped, Ana did next to no healing (26k??) but it was an inevitable defeat anyway.

    Maybe the Xul was a Raynor instead I don't remember but it don't matter.

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  • milk ducksmilk ducks Registered User regular
    I think you're right, actually; it might have been a Raynor and not a Xul. To be honest about the Ana, I know she had low healing overall, but I was her only real viable target as Imperius. She CAN'T heal Deathwing, Nova is a flanker who is never in a position to get heals, and the Vikes just aren't there.

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  • DibbyDibby I'll do my best! Registered User regular
    I mean she also took Nano instead of Horus

    Might've not mattered in the end, but it would've provided extra teamfight damage+healing

    Ehhhh.

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  • MNC DoverMNC Dover Game Designer/Stay-at-home Dad Kirkland, WARegistered User regular
    MMMig wrote: »

    That was awesome. Thankfully there was an alt-account Diamond Artanis to carry us. Also, I don’t often take Death Metal, but did it ever get value at the end of the game there. Plus Mosh into Death Mosh is hilarious.

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  • MMMigMMMig Registered User regular
    Coming back from 8-24 on towers was def a feat.

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  • milk ducksmilk ducks Registered User regular
    forty wrote: »
    milk ducks wrote: »
    Also we almost won that match. Which makes the b-stepping that much more fucking stupid.
    Sounds like the matchmaker did a good job then! :P

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  • A Dabble Of TheloniusA Dabble Of Thelonius It has been a doozy of a dayRegistered User regular
    My xul playguide.

    Cage a squishy and dive them, knowing your team is right there with yo....oh.

    Oh no, they're fighting the tank. Oh no. You've died.

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  • fortyforty Registered User regular
    Did I miss the most recent HeroStorm getting posted?



    Holy shit this was the best one in a while.

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  • Inquisitor77Inquisitor77 2 x Penny Arcade Fight Club Champion A fixed point in space and timeRegistered User regular
    This is good. Fan walks through his macro thought process during a game:

  • BrainleechBrainleech 機知に富んだコメントはここにあります Registered User regular
    milk ducks wrote: »
    RickRude wrote: »
    This thread gets more posts than the League of Legends thread. This game isn't dead.

    The League reddit has 25k users active right this second
    The HotS reddit has 1.4k

    Make of that information what you will.

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  • InvictusInvictus Registered User regular
    Dibby wrote: »
    I mean she also took Nano instead of Horus

    Might've not mattered in the end, but it would've provided extra teamfight damage+healing

    Ehhhh.

    i'm trying to learn Ana; should i be taking Horus? I took it for granted a reason to be Ana is to enable mages.

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  • DibbyDibby I'll do my best! Registered User regular
    Invictus wrote: »
    Dibby wrote: »
    I mean she also took Nano instead of Horus

    Might've not mattered in the end, but it would've provided extra teamfight damage+healing

    Ehhhh.

    i'm trying to learn Ana; should i be taking Horus? I took it for granted a reason to be Ana is to enable mages.

    Horus gained baseline piercing a while back and provides some insane burst healing. It is EXTREMELY good.

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  • DocshiftyDocshifty Registered User regular
    I'm starting to see what first made the game drop off for me.

    Feedback during battle is, confusing.

    I took 60% of me health as damage. From what? Who knows. What, now I'm healed up to 80%? Oh.

    Like the effects are so muted (aside from a few specific ones)

  • milk ducksmilk ducks Registered User regular
    They're both situationally very powerful. I like Nano Boost quite a bit when I play Mephisto, for example; if I give Ana a heads up to give me a Nano before I Consume Souls with Malicious Intent, that's a ton of extra spellpower (25% + 30%) that's incredibly easy to coordinate. That combo can win a teamfight all on it's own sometimes, and post-20 when Consume Souls can reset, it can literally win you the match outright.

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