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  • The Escape GoatThe Escape Goat but not a real green dress, that's cruel Registered User regular
    I choose to believe everyone who stands in Q lives in the north and, having suffered through another winter, welcomes the warm embrace of fire and also death.

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  • milk ducksmilk ducks Registered User regular
    The HotS community is so embarrassing

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  • milk ducksmilk ducks Registered User regular
    Also, I've just realised that the HotS Alterac Valley is a more genuine Reforged experience than WC3.

  • Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver Registered User, ClubPA regular
    milk ducks wrote: »
    Also, I've just realised that the HotS Alterac Valley is a more genuine Reforged experience than WC3.

    that's an exceptionally low bar to clear

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  • milk ducksmilk ducks Registered User regular
    All they had to do was not shit the bed.

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  • MNC DoverMNC Dover Game Designer/Stay-at-home Dad Seattle, WARegistered User regular
    I heard about the custom map nonsense, but was the single player mode that bad too?

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  • kimekime Queen of Blades Registered User regular
    MNC Dover wrote: »
    I heard about the custom map nonsense, but was the single player mode that bad too?

    It was initially buggy for some people. May be better now, dunno

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  • milk ducksmilk ducks Registered User regular
    MNC Dover wrote: »
    I heard about the custom map nonsense, but was the single player mode that bad too?

    Pull up a seat, bud.

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  • milk ducksmilk ducks Registered User regular
    edited February 14
    On Battlefield of Eternity as Dehaka

    What I cannot do:
    Meaningfully contribute to our Immortal race
    Meaningfully peel Illidan and Tracer

    What I can do:
    Bully the shit out of Deathwing in lane
    Soak globally

    Our Brightwing is up my ass the entire match, even though we're winning because I'm keeping our team a talent tier above the enemy the entire game. First objective goes to us, because I scored us our ultimates first. Second objective goes to the enemy team, because we floundered going in and they got a huge head start on us. So, I decided to keep soaking and make the best of the phase. Brightwing is like "that's the second objective you've missed". And meanwhile, they scored nothing on us; the second Immortal took our top Fort, and I scored their bottom Fort out from underneath them as they pushed top. We gained another talent tier, pushed them back, I dug in behind them to flank, leading to a wipe that allowed us to take their top Fort, as well. Like, everything's fucking perfect. And this guy's completely up my ass. We have one bad fight late in the game, which had absolutely nothing to do with me and Brightwing starts saying "it was probably Haka's fault". And then he starts saying "look, I'm going to play like him" while pushing the opposite lane during the ensuing teamfight. Just being a complete dickhead.

    Once again, we scored a pick that led to a switch in momentum in our favor, allowing me to dig in behind them to create a flank that boxed them in, and then we wiped them.

    And as the game ends, I say my customary "ggwp", to which he replies "good laning, you mean".

    Like, imagine being shitty that your offlane kept you at a talent tier above the enemy team all game and created multiple flanks that led to team wipes in your favor, instead of flaccidly swiping at the Immortal and missing tongues on Illidan and Tracer.

    Just imagine.

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    I've said it before (about 7 posts up from this one), but I'll say it again:
    The HotS community is so embarrassing

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  • The Escape GoatThe Escape Goat but not a real green dress, that's cruel Registered User regular
    are you seriously insinuating that it's worse than, say, DotA's community, or do you just feel like stating the obvious that's true of every online multiplayer game

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  • milk ducksmilk ducks Registered User regular
    Apples and oranges, honestly.

    DotA community is toxic, but they at least know how to play their game.

  • fortyforty Registered User regular
    MNC Dover wrote: »
    I lost a game last night because my teammates refused to soak the bot lane. Just sat in mid 4v3 doing nothing. And yes, the wife was in that lane and refused to leave. I pinged several times to no avail.

    It's one of the single-most frustrating things about HotS. I've basically abandoning using Tanks in Bronze SL because I HAVE to be a hero that can soak fast. Often times, I'll avoid the first obj on a map if it's weak and just soak. Of course, none of my teammates understand the XP advantage and dive in 4v5 and die. Like, just poke and delay.

    There was a recent game I played as Samuro on Volskaya and we lost the first two obj which made my teammates got livid. We ended up losing our mid and top walls. The enemy lost their mid/bot forts. When I pointed this out, they finally chilled out.

    Why is this so hard for people to grasp?
    Because this is 90% of HotS players:

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  • DibbyDibby I'll do my best! Registered User regular
    edited February 14
    adding onto Ducks's thing, like

    we had fucking Exterminator Raynor and goddamn Zul'jin, two of the best autoattack heroes in the entire fucking game (with Exterminator Raynor probably being the single best PVE damage hero in the game now) PLUS a W build Hanzo and it's like yeah we really fucking need those frail Dehaka autos slapping the big red man, my dude.

    but no, brightwing's FRAIL EGO was fucking shattered because we didn't have "the frontliner" being there for the objective. my goddddd

    "we needed dehaka there", they say. and i'm like "dude no we don't." "what if they invade", they say again as we can literally see everyone on the entire enemy fucking team in top lane nowhere near the objective. OOF. biggest fucking oof.

    not to mention i'm literally shredding this fucking merc camp and killing the mercs in like 3 fucking autos and BW comes over and uses Bribe when they have a sliver of health left. like yeah dude good job you're really contributing to the team there, bud

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  • milk ducksmilk ducks Registered User regular
    edited February 15
    That's what I mean, like, what's Dehaka gonna do to save you if he's there? Do you think it's reasonable to assume that I can lock down an Illidan or a Tracer with a tongue grab? Do you think that I can hit either of them with Isolation? There's no fucking way. I play Dehaka a lot, at a fairly consistently high level, and I'm telling you straight up -- you're fucked if your whole plan revolves around me locking down a high mobility assassin on my own. Against a lot of comps, I can pretty reliably reduce the drag cooldown by auto-attacking, but who can I hit on their team? I can't catch Tracer or Illidan, and even if I do, Illidan evades my autos. Like, there's no scenario in that match where Dehaka provides any meaningful peel. That just isn't his role.

    My only play is to aggressively soak XP until the objectives spawn, where I've hopefully gained us a talent advantage, forcing the other team to race us, rather than risk it all in a teamfight down a tier. And if they do decide to invade us and force the teamfight, my dig comes in behind them to fuck with the Ana, rather than in front of them where Illidan and Tracer will just dive through me. So that's exactly what I did. And we won. Like, not only did we win, but we held a commanding lead throughout the entire match and won pretty convincingly.

    And people still wanna bitch, because their offlaner played his role well, rather than playing a different role poorly.

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  • milk ducksmilk ducks Registered User regular
    I also scored two solo picks on Tracer in the first like, 5 minutes of the match. Both times, she dove me hard and I ate her Pulse Bombs just to bait her into diving me close enough to the Towers that I could land a tongue and force her to eat multiple shots.

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  • MNC DoverMNC Dover Game Designer/Stay-at-home Dad Seattle, WARegistered User regular
    milk ducks wrote: »
    I also scored two solo picks on Tracer in the first like, 5 minutes of the match. Both times, she dove me hard and I ate her Pulse Bombs just to bait her into diving me close enough to the Towers that I could land a tongue and force her to eat multiple shots.

    Well see, there's your problem. BW saw that you can clearly kill Tracer (twice) and assumed that you'd do it all game long. You played yourself.

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  • Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver Registered User, ClubPA regular
    You might be able to hit a polymorphed tracer/illidan with tongue but that's besides the point.

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  • fortyforty Registered User regular
    milk ducks wrote: »
    I also scored two solo picks on Tracer in the first like, 5 minutes of the match. Both times, she dove me hard and I ate her Pulse Bombs just to bait her into diving me close enough to the Towers that I could land a tongue and force her to eat multiple shots.
    So what you're saying is that you should have been at the Immortal tongue grabbing Tracer. :P

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  • Inquisitor77Inquisitor77 2 x Penny Arcade Fight Club Champion A fixed point in space and timeRegistered User regular
    I feel bad for the other team's Valla.

    She tried so hard, and got so far.

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    Three things in human life are important: the first is to be kind; the second is to be kind; and the third is to be kind.
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  • MNC DoverMNC Dover Game Designer/Stay-at-home Dad Seattle, WARegistered User regular
    edited February 15
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    That's a lot of XP. Only in Bronze could a game go on that long.

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  • DibbyDibby I'll do my best! Registered User regular
    edited February 15
    MNC Dover wrote: »
    That's a lot of XP. Only in Bronze could a game go on that long.

    ehhhh you'd be surprised..... i had a game on tomb of the spider queen that went on for 32:35 today....................

    no, we did not win.

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  • The Escape GoatThe Escape Goat but not a real green dress, that's cruel Registered User regular
    1) the trench never ends
    2) especially on spider queen

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  • MNC DoverMNC Dover Game Designer/Stay-at-home Dad Seattle, WARegistered User regular
    I forgot to mention that I earned 250 for the win. 200 for the victory and 50 extra points to make up for a disconnect I had. Apparently they added this new system in where you lose 500 points for a disconnect, but earn back 50 with each game (win or lose) unless you disconnect again. Smart change!

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  • GachnarGachnar Registered User regular
    edited February 16
    Never thought we'd win this one, but between hook, gorge, and haymaker, we kept getting picks. Meanwhile Azmo and an ultimate evolution buddy made three trips through the backdoor and burned down the core.

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  • milk ducksmilk ducks Registered User regular
    That sounds like a monumentally awkward win, lol.

  • The Escape GoatThe Escape Goat but not a real green dress, that's cruel Registered User regular
    Do they still count piloting vehicles to your personal siege damage? Because there's no universe Rehgar should be leading a three-specialist game in that.

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  • milk ducksmilk ducks Registered User regular
    Do they still count piloting vehicles to your personal siege damage? Because there's no universe Rehgar should be leading a three-specialist game in that.

    Goat, have you not heard the gospel of our Lord and Savior, off-lane Rehgar?

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  • milk ducksmilk ducks Registered User regular
    Real talk, though, yeah; that's clearly a double-support, off-lane Rehgar comp.

  • fortyforty Registered User regular
    And by "comp" he means QM shitshow.

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  • I needed a gnome to post.I needed a gnome to post. i did meet some of the most insufferable people but, they also met meRegistered User regular
    that's what comps are now

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  • Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver Registered User, ClubPA regular
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    deathwing too weak plz buff blizz

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  • Moridin889Moridin889 Registered User regular
    I played Deathwing for the first time

    I feel lied to by certain members of the thread

    No one wanted to stand in my flamebreath

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  • DibbyDibby I'll do my best! Registered User regular
    Moridin889 wrote: »
    I played Deathwing for the first time

    I feel lied to by certain members of the thread

    No one wanted to stand in my flamebreath

    I'VE LITERALLY BEEN SAYING THAT SINCE THE START LOL

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  • Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver Registered User, ClubPA regular
    Moridin889 wrote: »
    I played Deathwing for the first time

    I feel lied to by certain members of the thread

    No one wanted to stand in my flamebreath

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  • Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver Registered User, ClubPA regular
    In all honesty I can try and do a write up on Deathwong when I get home if ya’ll think it would help

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  • MNC DoverMNC Dover Game Designer/Stay-at-home Dad Seattle, WARegistered User regular
    I don't want to sound like that guy, but how the hell can I get out of Bronze when my teammates are so terrible?

    Blindly sitting in lanes and getting ganked
    Invading into the only unclaimed camp on the board when it's obvious they are all there and dying
    Going 1-8 as Naz against a team with little to no CC in under 10 minutes
    Taking a team fight 4v5 at level 19 vs level 18 when I'm literally 10 seconds away from soaking us to 20

    These have been my last couple of losses and they drive me up the fucking wall. I was a few wins away from Silver and fell back to Bronze 2. Like, I wish I could hard carry the team, but I'm not THAT good.

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  • kimekime Queen of Blades Registered User regular
    edited February 18
    MNC Dover wrote: »
    I don't want to sound like that guy, but how the hell can I get out of Bronze when my teammates are so terrible?

    Blindly sitting in lanes and getting ganked
    Invading into the only unclaimed camp on the board when it's obvious they are all there and dying
    Going 1-8 as Naz against a team with little to no CC in under 10 minutes
    Taking a team fight 4v5 at level 19 vs level 18 when I'm literally 10 seconds away from soaking us to 20

    These have been my last couple of losses and they drive me up the fucking wall. I was a few wins away from Silver and fell back to Bronze 2. Like, I wish I could hard carry the team, but I'm not THAT good.

    What heroes are you playing? Maybe that's a place to start? Pick heroes that can win without a team lol

    Oh oh! I'll make a new account and we'll duo queue our way out!

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  • Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver Registered User, ClubPA regular
    Play Ragnaros if you want to climb.

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