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[Heroes of the Storm] Town Portal to the Punch Dimension

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  • MMMigMMMig Registered User regular

    We def need a drunken master skin for Deckard

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  • Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver Registered User, ClubPA regular
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    That feeling when the queue is twice as long as your game.

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  • MNC DoverMNC Dover Game Designer/Stay-at-home Dad Seattle, WARegistered User regular
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    That feeling when the queue is twice as long as your game.

    WTH?

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  • Inquisitor77Inquisitor77 2 x Penny Arcade Fight Club Champion A fixed point in space and timeRegistered User regular
    They queued a team of Masters+ level players in Unranked Draft, had to wait for YOLO queue, and then stomped a team of people who were way out of their league with a comp designed to run it down a lane and win as fast as possible.

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  • Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver Registered User, ClubPA regular
    MNC Dover wrote: »
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    That feeling when the queue is twice as long as your game.

    WTH?

    We were practicing some of our deathball comps, enemy team snap picks Qira and it kinda looked like the rest picked their heroes out of bitterness for not getting to play Qira.

    Like, hammer stayed in bot lane all game taking out towers while we pushed top. Medivh didn’t even leave boid form but once or twice.

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  • Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver Registered User, ClubPA regular


    OUR GAME TONIGHT STARTS IN FOURTEEN MINUTES!

    NUMBER ONE TEAM OF B EAST IS OUR OPPONENT!

    We are not gonna have a six minute game last Sunday, I promise.

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  • fortyforty Registered User regular
    Zek wrote: »
    Deckard is kind of meant to be helpless in combat, it's part of his core concept. For him to be shooting laser beams out of his staff or something would feel weird, he's not actually a mage.
    If the "fantasy" of a hero is to be shit, it's bad design. Deckard is the worst healer right now. At least let him weave some autos into fights so he's not total garbage.

    This is dedgame, so Blizzard needs to step it up and do something.

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  • I needed a gnome to post.I needed a gnome to post. Registered User regular
    i mean i would argue that the thing making deckard shit is not his lack of ranged auto attacks

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  • DibbyDibby Let us grieve existence, together Registered User regular
    healers don't really want to be autoattacking anyway unless they have a talent that provides them with a benefit for doing so (like Anduin) or if that's their whole Thing (Tyrande) or if they're one of the aforementioned Beefy Bois (Khara, Rehgar, Uther, Stukov)

    but in general healer AAs aren't really worth the trouble, usually.

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  • fortyforty Registered User regular
    Giving him range would make him better in a more compelling way than just turning him into a better healbot.

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  • fortyforty Registered User regular
    Dibby wrote: »
    healers don't really want to be autoattacking anyway unless they have a talent that provides them with a benefit for doing so (like Anduin) or if that's their whole Thing (Tyrande) or if they're one of the aforementioned Beefy Bois (Khara, Rehgar, Uther, Stukov)

    but in general healer AAs aren't really worth the trouble, usually.
    Weaving AAs is absolutely a higher skill level benefit. 1k+ damage can be the difference in a close fight.

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  • Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver Registered User, ClubPA regular
    You would be hard pressed to find many healers who can do 1K damage in AA during a teamfight.

    Deckard absolutely shits out damage with seal of stone curse too, damage isn't his issue.

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  • I needed a gnome to post.I needed a gnome to post. Registered User regular
    forty wrote: »
    Giving him range would make him better in a more compelling way than just turning him into a better healbot.

    if you want healers that aren't healbots you picked the wrong moba buddy

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  • fortyforty Registered User regular
    You would be hard pressed to find many healers who can do 1K damage in AA during a teamfight.

    Deckard absolutely shits out damage with seal of stone curse too, damage isn't his issue.
    Brightwing, e.g., getting off 8 autos in a teamfight is not a huge ask.

    Sounds like it's one of his issues for the 15 levels before he gets that talent, then?

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  • fortyforty Registered User regular
    forty wrote: »
    Giving him range would make him better in a more compelling way than just turning him into a better healbot.

    if you want healers that aren't healbots you picked the wrong moba buddy
    I feel like if Kieri read this forum, this post would read like a foreign language to her.

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  • Inquisitor77Inquisitor77 2 x Penny Arcade Fight Club Champion A fixed point in space and timeRegistered User regular
    His name is Deckard Cain, not Deckard "Ranged Auto Attack".

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  • SmrtnikSmrtnik job boli zub Registered User regular
    His name is Deckard Cain, not Deckard "Ranged Auto Attack".

    It's funny because he's disabled

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  • fortyforty Registered User regular
    His name is Deckard Cain, not Deckard "Ranged Auto Attack".
    How about a skin where he's using Lili's staff instead of his own that lets him become ranged?

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  • DibbyDibby Let us grieve existence, together Registered User regular
    no his name is Deckard Pain

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  • DibbyDibby Let us grieve existence, together Registered User regular
    anyway, real talk: unless your healer has autos that are Actually Good, they're just meaningless chip damage.

    meter padding, in other words. it's not a meaningful source of damage especially compared to say, their skills. i highly highly doubt that e.g. 125 aa damage at level 20 is really going to mean the difference between a kill or not

    TTK is so fast in this game that such low meaningless chip damage doesn't really matter. doubly so when healing in general is just so strong.

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  • Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver Registered User, ClubPA regular
    I mean, I have seen way too many heroes escape with 150 HP or less

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  • kimekime Queen of Blades Registered User regular
    Dibby wrote: »
    anyway, real talk: unless your healer has autos that are Actually Good, they're just meaningless chip damage.

    meter padding, in other words. it's not a meaningful source of damage especially compared to say, their skills. i highly highly doubt that e.g. 125 aa damage at level 20 is really going to mean the difference between a kill or not

    TTK is so fast in this game that such low meaningless chip damage doesn't really matter. doubly so when healing in general is just so strong.

    If your goal in this game isn't to pad stats, why even play?

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  • MNC DoverMNC Dover Game Designer/Stay-at-home Dad Seattle, WARegistered User regular
    I'm just watched the wife solo Qhira w/Li Li and win. To be fair though, Li Li is basically an assassin.

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  • DibbyDibby Let us grieve existence, together Registered User regular
    kime wrote: »
    Dibby wrote: »
    anyway, real talk: unless your healer has autos that are Actually Good, they're just meaningless chip damage.

    meter padding, in other words. it's not a meaningful source of damage especially compared to say, their skills. i highly highly doubt that e.g. 125 aa damage at level 20 is really going to mean the difference between a kill or not

    TTK is so fast in this game that such low meaningless chip damage doesn't really matter. doubly so when healing in general is just so strong.

    If your goal in this game isn't to pad stats, why even play?

    i mean, i didn't say that you shouldn't...........

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  • Inquisitor77Inquisitor77 2 x Penny Arcade Fight Club Champion A fixed point in space and timeRegistered User regular
    MNC Dover wrote: »
    I'm just watched the wife solo Qhira w/Li Li and win. To be fair though, Li Li is basically an assassin.

    LiLi remains the most criminally underrated hero in the game.

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  • SaerisSaeris Borb Enthusiast flapflapflapflapRegistered User regular
    People think Cain is bad? Since when? He still seems great to me. He just needs time to set up, so he's a niche pick, not a general pick like he used to be.

    He's certainly not the worst healer, not as long as Auriel and Kharazim are around, the poor bastards.

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  • Inquisitor77Inquisitor77 2 x Penny Arcade Fight Club Champion A fixed point in space and timeRegistered User regular
    RIP Kharazim

    May you live forever in the jungle.

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  • fortyforty Registered User regular
    Dibby wrote: »
    anyway, real talk: unless your healer has autos that are Actually Good, they're just meaningless chip damage.

    meter padding, in other words. it's not a meaningful source of damage especially compared to say, their skills. i highly highly doubt that e.g. 125 aa damage at level 20 is really going to mean the difference between a kill or not
    But Brightwing does that much damage at level 12.

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  • fortyforty Registered User regular
    Saeris wrote: »
    People think Cain is bad? Since when? He still seems great to me. He just needs time to set up, so he's a niche pick, not a general pick like he used to be.

    He's certainly not the worst healer, not as long as Auriel and Kharazim are around, the poor bastards.
    Well his win rate is at the bottom of the pack for healers. Auriel is arguably a niche pick too but she sees far more success.

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  • Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver Registered User, ClubPA regular
    Saeris wrote: »
    People think Cain is bad? Since when? He still seems great to me. He just needs time to set up, so he's a niche pick, not a general pick like he used to be.

    He's certainly not the worst healer, not as long as Auriel and Kharazim are around, the poor bastards.

    You certainly used him to great effect during that scrim.

    Cain gets work done on maps like Volskaya when you know where the objective will spawn and can preload the point with healing.

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  • milk ducksmilk ducks Registered User regular
    I saw that there were 40+ new posts, and I got excited. I was like, oh shit, did we get info on the Tassadar rework? New hero announcement already? No way!

    But then it's like

    Just talking about how Cain should have a ranged auto lol

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  • fortyforty Registered User regular
    milk ducks wrote: »
    I saw that there were 40+ new posts, and I got excited. I was like, oh shit, did we get info on the Tassadar rework? New hero announcement already? No way!

    But then it's like

    Just talking about how Cain should have a ranged auto lol
    You're welcome for waking up dedgame thread.

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  • Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver Registered User, ClubPA regular
    milk ducks wrote: »
    I saw that there were 40+ new posts, and I got excited. I was like, oh shit, did we get info on the Tassadar rework? New hero announcement already? No way!

    But then it's like

    Just talking about how Cain should have a ranged auto lol

    Stay awhile and listen

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  • DibbyDibby Let us grieve existence, together Registered User regular
    cain should get ranged autoattacks but they aren't autoattacks they're lorenadoes

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  • SeGaTaiSeGaTai Registered User regular
    His ranged attack is a tiny town portal he punches people through

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  • DibbyDibby Let us grieve existence, together Registered User regular
    SeGaTai wrote: »
    His ranged attack is a tiny town portal he punches people through

    i still think it woulda been cool if one of his ults was to send someone back to the hall of storms

    that probably would've been broken as shit though like whoa hey here's an instant 5v4 omega lulllll

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  • Inquisitor77Inquisitor77 2 x Penny Arcade Fight Club Champion A fixed point in space and timeRegistered User regular
    SeGaTai wrote: »
    His ranged attack is a tiny town portal he punches people through

    Town Portal to the Punch Dimension?

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  • milk ducksmilk ducks Registered User regular
    That's actually a legitimately cool concept

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  • Inquisitor77Inquisitor77 2 x Penny Arcade Fight Club Champion A fixed point in space and timeRegistered User regular
    Li Li still OP OP.

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  • SmrtnikSmrtnik job boli zub Registered User regular
    You could also give Cain the ability to open a TP that sticks around for a few seconds to own hall that anyone on own team can help through. Kind of like Morales's lvl 20 medivac non-ult, but can be used in both directions.

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