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RAID array failed, BIOS only sees 1/2 SSD's, can't boot Win7, Help!

H3KnucklesH3Knuckles Jack of all interests......master of noneRegistered User regular
So I was sitting at my desktop with chrome open, browsing a thread here while I had Youtube open in a different tab playing audio when all of the sudden I get a bluescreen crash with a message about a failure and protecting data. I'm concerned, but it's happened before once or twice in the 7 years or so that I've owned this, and in the past after a reboot things worked fine. In those cases one of the disks would be reported as having a failure, but when I got into windows the intel software would just reset the status and that would be it? I was way past the warranty so I figured I'd leave it be.

But this time, the boot screen listed the Array itself as having failed, and only showed status for one drive. It then gave me a display I've never seen before, with a list of options to attempt to reboot, go into settings, or a third option that was just three letters (PSA) I didn't recognize. Attempting to reboot didn't find the other drive, so I went with settings and realized I have no idea what I'm doing. I am completely lost on what to do from here? It said something about trying to reconnect devices, but the case was just sitting still. Should I power it off, open it up, and try moving the SSD's to different SATA connections? How would I know which is which? I have a USB flash drive that the AlienRespawn set up as a recovery device. How would I use that? I have backups (though not very recent) but I need to get into windows first to use those.

Alienware Aurora R4
Windows 7
Intel i7 3930k
16gb ram
nvidia geforce gtx 560ti
2x500gb SSD's in a SATA RAID array

Posting this from a family member's laptop, any assistance is appreciated.

Edit: On a whim, I powered it down and then back up, and it booted into windows successfully, all drives display okay. So maybe the problem is the RAID controller? I'm gonna run a fresh backup of everything right now.

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  • SiliconStewSiliconStew Registered User regular
    PSA is Pre-boot System Assessment, it's just some built in diagnostic tools for identifying why the system won't boot, but I doubt it'll tell more than what you already know.

    From the symptoms, I assume you're running RAID 0, so if one drive fails you lose everything. It could be either a flaky raid controller or a flaky drive. I'm not familiar with that PC's model, but I assume it is just software raid on the motherboard and not actually a seperate hardware raid controller card you could replace?

    Never move RAID drives to different slots/ports after it is set up, you'll hose the configuration even worse. All it was asking is for you to re-seat the drive cables just in case of a loose connection. The ports are normally marked and that would correspond to the drive number with issues.

    If it were me, I'd be backing up all your data as soon as possible. Make sure that AlienRespawn is actually backing up your data, that is, doing more than just a basic wipe and restore to factory default state. Once you have backups, go through and install the latest firmware/bios for everything, there's a chance it'll help with reliability.

    Personally, I wouldn't trust the hardware, so I'd at least look at buying a single 1TB drive and move everything to that if I couldn't replace the other stuff. That'll avoid using the possibly flaky RAID and avoid using the two existing possibly flaky drives. Then even if the motherboard dies it won't take all your data with it (you can't transfer RAID drives to a different model of motherboard/controller hardware). But if you are confident in your backups, maybe you feel it's worth the risk to run until it really dies or gets naturally upgraded later.

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  • H3KnucklesH3Knuckles Jack of all interests... ...master of noneRegistered User regular
    edited May 11
    Yes, it's a RAID 0. I don't seem to have ever actually lost any data though, which is why I was guessing it might not be the drives themselves, but then again who knows? I'll look up what the raid set-up is (software on board, or controller card, though I suspect you're right about the former).

    Edit: here's the page with the specifications of my desktop model, but more importantly here's the intel page for the chipset. Under device manager there's a category for 'storage controllers' that lists "Intel(R) C600 Series Chipset SATA RAID Controller", and if I open the properties window for it the location is given as "PCI bus 0, device 31, function 2". Not sure if that helps any.

    My AlienRespawn is just the free version that comes with the PC, so it won't perform a full backup (that's only for the premium version), only creation of recovery media. I'm manually copying personal files, iTunes & steam library, exporting bookmarks from chrome, etc to an external drive. Pretty much done all of that, so I guess now the thing to do is to make a windows image backup to a different external drive?

    When you say 'buying a single 1tb drive and move everything to that' what do you mean, exactly?

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  • ShadowfireShadowfire Vermont, in the middle of nowhereRegistered User regular
    What SiliconStew is saying I think is the raid failed once, don't trust it. Back your stuff up now. Get a 1TB drive and clone your system to it ASAP.

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  • H3KnucklesH3Knuckles Jack of all interests... ...master of noneRegistered User regular
    edited May 12
    Okay, yeah, I was already working on that. Got a new drive (1tb Samsung 860 EVO) that Amazon says will arrive tomorrow. I was just wondering whether you can clone a RAID 0 to a single SSD, and if so, how? Something about Stew's phrasing made me wonder if that was what they were suggesting.

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