This is a thinking creature that has basically never meaningfully interacted with any other thinking creature, and which only acted to defend something it viewed as intrinsic part of itself. It did not act out of malice so much as considering humans a potentially existential threat to itself. Taught to socialize and to better understand itself and humans, it'd likely be no more a threat than any other superpowered human. Basically Jolyne is saying "it never had the chance to learn how to be a good person since it's barely used to being a person, so let's give it a chance."
Which is a surprisingly nuanced take for of all things 'dog-kickers-Jojo' to take but like, it's not wrong. It'd be like getting mad at like... a feral child for being a danger to others. Now I'm not sure if taking this Superpowered baby into a prison where they can totally kill a bunch of people is a great idea, but to be fair Jolyne kind of doesn't have a lot of options and needs all the help she can get to like, not die.
I know i just found it funny, because it was more or less just their reasoning to get to Speed's point
Episode… 11? I think? The full fight with Jumpin’ Jack Flash.
Does anyone know a good explanation for how JJF’s power caused the machine shop to become a hard vacuum?
I get the concept of the power spreading to the walls and floors that Jolene touched, making every object weightless. But I’m not grasping how that caused the air to escape the room. It’s not like the room was rising into the air, reaching a thinner atmosphere; that would logically cause the inner air to flow out to the lower pressure system. But I don’t know how making the walls and objects weightless caused the air to escape, even if there was a difference in weight between the air and the walls.
I’m not upset about this, of course. It allowed for a 0-G fight in a hard vacuum on Earth’s surface. And that’s just super cool. But I don’t really get how it works from the explanation given.
if anything, touching the walls and such should make those thing weightless but I don't think that should affect the structure that much as long as it's attached to solid weighted objects, and touching the air would make it weightless/less dense and cause an updraft up til the point where it's out of range and gains weight again
Episode… 11? I think? The full fight with Jumpin’ Jack Flash.
Does anyone know a good explanation for how JJF’s power caused the machine shop to become a hard vacuum?
I get the concept of the power spreading to the walls and floors that Jolene touched, making every object weightless. But I’m not grasping how that caused the air to escape the room. It’s not like the room was rising into the air, reaching a thinner atmosphere; that would logically cause the inner air to flow out to the lower pressure system. But I don’t know how making the walls and objects weightless caused the air to escape, even if there was a difference in weight between the air and the walls.
I’m not upset about this, of course. It allowed for a 0-G fight in a hard vacuum on Earth’s surface. And that’s just super cool. But I don’t really get how it works from the explanation given.
I think the idea is that no weight really means no gravity, which means the gravity outside the room/range was attracting all the air with no competition.
I'm sure someone could explain why this doesn't actually work this way, but I'm pretty sure that's what Araki is going for.
Also if that was distracting, there's at least two moments later on that are going to destroy you. Hopefully in a good way.
Episode… 11? I think? The full fight with Jumpin’ Jack Flash.
Does anyone know a good explanation for how JJF’s power caused the machine shop to become a hard vacuum?
I get the concept of the power spreading to the walls and floors that Jolene touched, making every object weightless. But I’m not grasping how that caused the air to escape the room. It’s not like the room was rising into the air, reaching a thinner atmosphere; that would logically cause the inner air to flow out to the lower pressure system. But I don’t know how making the walls and objects weightless caused the air to escape, even if there was a difference in weight between the air and the walls.
I’m not upset about this, of course. It allowed for a 0-G fight in a hard vacuum on Earth’s surface. And that’s just super cool. But I don’t really get how it works from the explanation given.
The way I read it was that anything Jolyne touches becoming weightless extended to the air itself. She was touching air constantly, so over time all the air around her became "weightless" and moved to parts of the world that weren't weightless.
Does this hold up scientifically? Prrrrrrrrrobably not. But I think that was what was supposed to be happening.
Episode… 11? I think? The full fight with Jumpin’ Jack Flash.
Does anyone know a good explanation for how JJF’s power caused the machine shop to become a hard vacuum?
I get the concept of the power spreading to the walls and floors that Jolene touched, making every object weightless. But I’m not grasping how that caused the air to escape the room. It’s not like the room was rising into the air, reaching a thinner atmosphere; that would logically cause the inner air to flow out to the lower pressure system. But I don’t know how making the walls and objects weightless caused the air to escape, even if there was a difference in weight between the air and the walls.
I’m not upset about this, of course. It allowed for a 0-G fight in a hard vacuum on Earth’s surface. And that’s just super cool. But I don’t really get how it works from the explanation given.
The way I read it was that anything Jolyne touches becoming weightless extended to the air itself. She was touching air constantly, so over time all the air around her became "weightless" and moved to parts of the world that weren't weightless.
Does this hold up scientifically? Prrrrrrrrrobably not. But I think that was what was supposed to be happening.
Episode… 11? I think? The full fight with Jumpin’ Jack Flash.
Does anyone know a good explanation for how JJF’s power caused the machine shop to become a hard vacuum?
I get the concept of the power spreading to the walls and floors that Jolene touched, making every object weightless. But I’m not grasping how that caused the air to escape the room. It’s not like the room was rising into the air, reaching a thinner atmosphere; that would logically cause the inner air to flow out to the lower pressure system. But I don’t know how making the walls and objects weightless caused the air to escape, even if there was a difference in weight between the air and the walls.
I’m not upset about this, of course. It allowed for a 0-G fight in a hard vacuum on Earth’s surface. And that’s just super cool. But I don’t really get how it works from the explanation given.
The way I read it was that anything Jolyne touches becoming weightless extended to the air itself. She was touching air constantly, so over time all the air around her became "weightless" and moved to parts of the world that weren't weightless.
Does this hold up scientifically? Prrrrrrrrrobably not. But I think that was what was supposed to be happening.
issue there is that they explicitly mention that the air is not being effected by the Stand
Anyways I believe Araki's idea with has to do with pressure. Which no, wouldn't work like he thinks it does.
His idea is that in a field of nullified gravitation, air would disperse to the point of being unbreathable. The issue being is I'm pretty sure the pressure outside of the radius would basically keep the air in at a roughly consistent pressure.
even if the air rushed out it would get replaced by unaffected air, which would then turn weightless and rush out again
it seems like instead of a vacuum the problem should've been the room turning into a constant whirlwind, which also seems like a more obvious type of obstacle for Weather Report to combat!
Also if that was distracting, there's at least two moments later on that are going to destroy you. Hopefully in a good way.
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Snails and flying rods, of course.
honestly i think the snail thing might be more internally consistent
like it's batshit but the basic concept of very finely manipulating atmospheric pressure to create very specific mirages seems like it holds up to scrutiny
Anyways I believe Araki's idea with has to do with pressure. Which no, wouldn't work like he thinks it does.
His idea is that in a field of nullified gravitation, air would disperse to the point of being unbreathable. The issue being is I'm pretty sure the pressure outside of the radius would basically keep the air in at a roughly consistent pressure.
I swear I can remember Jolene saying that. At least in the dub.
gravity interacts with gasses, keeps the atmosphere pulled onto the earth, so I guess he was thinking about something like that. But creating a vacuum in the middle of a gas in zero gravity wouldn't do anything to change the tendency of the gas around it to flow into lower pressure areas, that's not caused by gravity, that's just the way systems of loose particles behave in gravity or away from it.
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today i was looking for it again and someone actually did a version of this MAD with scenes taken from the anime, what an absolute mad lad https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nAeuCaeLw_Y
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Just finished reading through Jojolion, and I dunno if I'm sure what I think.
The plot was super confusing until the "some years earlier" flashback halfway through that explained what was going on, and that helped a lot, but my main problem was that, for want of a better phrase, I just didn't really care about the characters very much. (other than Joshu who made things a ton of fun any time he showed up). And while I get that the "now your stand power is just, like, way better than before and can defeat the enemy" thing isn't new, the whole 'soap bubbles are actually the spin from steel ball run' felt more than usually pulled out of thin air.
Otherwise, the stand powers were all more comprehensible-feeling than before, which was a nice change, there weren't times when I just could not understand what was going on -- and the ways that equivalent exchange worked were surprisingly consistent. (and the finale moment where Kaato drops Tsurugi on Tooru was a _great_ bit of payoff there).
I did feel as if the amount of body horror was more than usual, too, though I might just be misremembering previous ones.
Anyway, I'm glad to have read it, I'm just not sure it'll stick with me the way the other ones did.
ok can someone explain to me what was going on in that maximum security fight?
why did everyone get turned in to trees? Was it one of the stand users or was it just the bone doin' bone stuff to everyone?
Yeah it was the bone doing it.
why though? The dude that makes invisible zombies used his power on it ... then what? Why does it suddenly have weird plant powers? Does all this get explained later or is it just Araki being random?
Continuing the fine tradition of giving Araki an excuse to take a vacation somewhere as a research trip
Im gonna wait for an official English translation because the fanlation I saw seems really rough but Dragona is probably trans but hiding it so thats neat
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Continuing the fine tradition of giving Araki an excuse to take a vacation somewhere as a research trip
Im gonna wait for an official English translation because the fanlation I saw seems really rough but Dragona is probably trans but hiding it so thats neat
Araki wanted to convey 3 main ideas in this chapter
1. "Police racism and brutality in America is fucked up, huh"
2. "Here is a trans/non-binary character, I have no idea how to convey that without someone touching their junk and being surprised. This definitely bodes well for how i will write this chatacter."
3. "Breaking Bad and Better Call Saul are tv shows that I, Hirohiko Araki, enjoyed to watch very much."
araki does not understand gender theory or subtlety
he does understand punching
Araki understands growing up with younger sisters who are also twins
Marty: The future, it's where you're going? Doc: That's right, twenty five years into the future. I've always dreamed on seeing the future, looking beyond my years, seeing the progress of mankind. I'll also be able to see who wins the next twenty-five world series.
Continuing the fine tradition of giving Araki an excuse to take a vacation somewhere as a research trip
Im gonna wait for an official English translation because the fanlation I saw seems really rough but Dragona is probably trans but hiding it so thats neat
Araki wanted to convey 3 main ideas in this chapter
1. "Police racism and brutality in America is fucked up, huh"
2. "Here is a trans/non-binary character, I have no idea how to convey that without someone touching their junk and being surprised. This definitely bodes well for how i will write this chatacter."
3. "Breaking Bad and Better Call Saul are tv shows that I, Hirohiko Araki, enjoyed to watch very much."
He has in the past tried to include gay and lesbian characters and editorial flat out shut him down. Introducing a presumably NB transfem probably killed somebody at Shueshia
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I know i just found it funny, because it was more or less just their reasoning to get to Speed's point
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I get the concept of the power spreading to the walls and floors that Jolene touched, making every object weightless. But I’m not grasping how that caused the air to escape the room. It’s not like the room was rising into the air, reaching a thinner atmosphere; that would logically cause the inner air to flow out to the lower pressure system. But I don’t know how making the walls and objects weightless caused the air to escape, even if there was a difference in weight between the air and the walls.
I’m not upset about this, of course. It allowed for a 0-G fight in a hard vacuum on Earth’s surface. And that’s just super cool. But I don’t really get how it works from the explanation given.
if anything, touching the walls and such should make those thing weightless but I don't think that should affect the structure that much as long as it's attached to solid weighted objects, and touching the air would make it weightless/less dense and cause an updraft up til the point where it's out of range and gains weight again
however rule of cool and all
I'm sure someone could explain why this doesn't actually work this way, but I'm pretty sure that's what Araki is going for.
Also if that was distracting, there's at least two moments later on that are going to destroy you. Hopefully in a good way.
Manga spoilers:
Does this hold up scientifically? Prrrrrrrrrobably not. But I think that was what was supposed to be happening.
Anyways I believe Araki's idea with has to do with pressure. Which no, wouldn't work like he thinks it does.
it seems like instead of a vacuum the problem should've been the room turning into a constant whirlwind, which also seems like a more obvious type of obstacle for Weather Report to combat!
like it's batshit but the basic concept of very finely manipulating atmospheric pressure to create very specific mirages seems like it holds up to scrutiny
http://www.audioentropy.com/
I swear I can remember Jolene saying that. At least in the dub.
When I have some time, I can go back and check.
Speaking of Stone Ocean, the Shonen Jump app now has the first 8 chapters of the manga, with more on the way
I didn’t expect that to get translated until part 5 was done being released, so this is a very nice surprise
went back for a listen on the part 5 soundtrack
Freak'n You aside there really is some great stuff (just kidding, Freak'n You is also great)
also while i'm on the subject of Part 5 this MAD has always been bouncing around since before the anime aired
today i was looking for it again and someone actually did a version of this MAD with scenes taken from the anime, what an absolute mad lad
Otherwise, the stand powers were all more comprehensible-feeling than before, which was a nice change, there weren't times when I just could not understand what was going on -- and the ways that equivalent exchange worked were surprisingly consistent. (and the finale moment where Kaato drops Tsurugi on Tooru was a _great_ bit of payoff there).
I did feel as if the amount of body horror was more than usual, too, though I might just be misremembering previous ones.
Anyway, I'm glad to have read it, I'm just not sure it'll stick with me the way the other ones did.
Also, I was poking around on Spotify recently and, well, one of these things is not like the others . . . or is it?
http://www.audioentropy.com/
"Do you believe in gravity?"
David Productions has done a great job on JoJo OPs and version 2 for Part 6 is no exception.
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So far, it's pretty jojo-y, I guess?
Im gonna wait for an official English translation because the fanlation I saw seems really rough but Dragona is probably trans but hiding it so thats neat
Yes.
You'll be waiting a while, Viz hasn't even started on Stone Ocean yet. Maybe the anime will get there first..
(huh, they haven't even finished Golden Wind, now that I check)
edit: no, I'm wrong, they've got partway through Stone Ocean, it's just only on their website, not in paper form yet.
1. "Police racism and brutality in America is fucked up, huh"
2. "Here is a trans/non-binary character, I have no idea how to convey that without someone touching their junk and being surprised. This definitely bodes well for how i will write this chatacter."
3. "Breaking Bad and Better Call Saul are tv shows that I, Hirohiko Araki, enjoyed to watch very much."
http://www.audioentropy.com/
he does understand punching
Araki understands growing up with younger sisters who are also twins
Doc: That's right, twenty five years into the future. I've always dreamed on seeing the future, looking beyond my years, seeing the progress of mankind. I'll also be able to see who wins the next twenty-five world series.
Its on the jump app too
He has in the past tried to include gay and lesbian characters and editorial flat out shut him down. Introducing a presumably NB transfem probably killed somebody at Shueshia