Yeah, most of the builds posted in this thread are only a GPU upgrade away from big FPS gains in games.
And everyone should upgrade to an SSD. It doesn't even have to be expensive or fancy, any new SSD from a reputable manufacturer will feel lightning quick compared to an HDD in almost any scenario.
y'all calling yourselves out with that 5.9 disk score. SSDs are the light.
The numbers really don't mean much in the grand scheme of things. They are designed to represent "how well will this computer run windows on a scale of nope (0) to perfect (10)."
It's also good way to tell if it's time to upgrade one part in comparison to everything else. Like in this case, everyone needs a friggin' SSD apparently.
So since this has turned into the computer hardware thread, who is the best manufacturer for a GTX 2070 super? The price points between manufacturers only varies by like $25, but the ratings are all over the ding dang place.
So since this has turned into the computer hardware thread, who is the best manufacturer for a GTX 2070 super? The price points between manufacturers only varies by like $25, but the ratings are all over the ding dang place.
I settled on a Gigabyte Aorus one because it matched the motherboard I was buying. The ridiculous lights sync up with the ridiculous lights on the motherboard and everything. Of course I don't have a window in the side of my case so you can't see it but it's there
More importantly it can push a lot of the heat generated away with the fan array, and it's got a whole lot of video outputs. I've still got the rubber stoppers in everything but a single HDMI port because it's just plugged into my 55" TV
I've not found a game that runs at anything less than 60fps at 4k on ultra graphics settings but the rest of my system (Ryzen 7 3700X, 64GB RAM) contributes to that too
The one about the fucking space hairdresser and the cowboy. He's got a tinfoil pal and a pedal bin
I'm not entirely sure which thread is the best for this, but, this thread felt good enough.
If any of you play Vavle/Source games right now you might want to abstain for a week or so because the source code got leaked to a bunch of their games and I guess there's an exploit that can run remote code on your PCs via what they discovered in the source. So connecting to a server with a hacker could leave you vulnerable to viruses and all that.
I'm sure valve will patch these soon.
not a doctor, not a lawyer, examples I use may not be fully researched so don't take out of context plz, don't @ me
Hrmmm, guess my 2012 build (with a 1070 replacing a 9800GTX+ in 2017) isn't bad.
Intel i5-3570
16GB RAM (DDR3, 1600)
GTX 1070 (8GB)
A combination of SSD for Windows and spinning rust for data and games
A 20inch monitor that can only do 1680x1050
Hrmmm, guess my 2012 build (with a 1070 replacing a 9800GTX+ in 2017) isn't bad.
Intel i5-3570
16GB RAM (DDR3, 1600)
GTX 1070 (8GB)
A combination of SSD for Windows and spinning rust for data and games
A 20inch monitor that can only do 1680x1050
Your monitor might not be the greatest, but on the upside, your 1070 should be able to push pretty decent framerates at ultra detail settings?
Hrmmm, guess my 2012 build (with a 1070 replacing a 9800GTX+ in 2017) isn't bad.
Intel i5-3570
16GB RAM (DDR3, 1600)
GTX 1070 (8GB)
A combination of SSD for Windows and spinning rust for data and games
A 20inch monitor that can only do 1680x1050
Your monitor might not be the greatest, but on the upside, your 1070 should be able to push pretty decent framerates at ultra detail settings?
Monitor maxes at 60Hz, but yeah I can hit that at max settings on the things I play. This is what I've been looking at to replace it. Unfortunately it's sold out at my local Microcenter and Amazon only has it available 3rd party at a tremendous markup. $180 but out of stock at MC, 300+ on Amazon right now.
The quality of life improvements from using SSDs are such a huge thing you really should do it ASAP. Almost every single kind of load time is vastly improved. Starting up windows, loading screens in games, etc etc etc.
I often forget how good it is until I have to use a work computer, or play a game on console instead of my PC. Hours and hours of your life is lost to these loading times. Reclaim control of your life! Self actualize with a SSD!
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It should be illegal to sell a computer without an SSD
HP has some truly awful "enterprise" laptops where the hard drive is literally glued into the chassis, and there's no way to remove it without essentially destroying the shell/sata controller
and they all come with custom 3800 RPM hard drives so you can never upgrade them ever
i essentially had to lie to my employers at the time that I was using only their worthless "secure" work laptop, while getting 3x the work done on my desktop
So since this has turned into the computer hardware thread, who is the best manufacturer for a GTX 2070 super? The price points between manufacturers only varies by like $25, but the ratings are all over the ding dang place.
If price isn't an object, I go with EVGA. They have a close relationship with nVidia so I trust their build quality. Otherwise, I think Gigabyte is my second choice, personally.
For ratings I typically go to Newegg, then I buy elsewhere because their prices + shipping tend to be less favorable than other retailers, especially to reach me overseas.
That one from Best Buy, according to Google, appears to be some kind of composite according to a post on another forum from 2013 - not sure what has changed since.
But...prices that low always make me suspicious. I wouldn't trust it myself.
Brands to stay away from are largely based on preference, with a few exceptions: For example, Asus has notoriously bad support, so I try to avoid them. I had an MSI motherboard not long ago that seemed fine, but I didn't like their software or UEFI. Stuff like that.
I had my eye specifically on MSI, but I know nothing about them. Is there a list of manufacturers I should absolutely stay away from?
Edit: Or maybe it's not MSI? This seems to be the best priced one.
That card is a reference card, it's the same one you can buy from the Nvidia website (or could, if they were in stock there). They used to be manufactured by PNY, not sure if that's still true. I like the reference design for the RTX cards in terms of aesthetics, but other manufacturers can offer better coolers, higher clocks out of the box, etc. I wouldn't strictly avoid the reference design, there's nothing wrong with the card, but you could find better value out there.
Athlon 2 x3 460 3.4gz three core CPU
a very old platter drive and a somewhat larger newer one
8GB Kingston HyperX 1600mhz DDR3 ram that I think has some flaws
and a Radeon r9 290
It should be illegal to sell a computer without an SSD
HP has some truly awful "enterprise" laptops where the hard drive is literally glued into the chassis, and there's no way to remove it without essentially destroying the shell/sata controller
and they all come with custom 3800 RPM hard drives so you can never upgrade them ever
i essentially had to lie to my employers at the time that I was using only their worthless "secure" work laptop, while getting 3x the work done on my desktop
Maybe I've been too hasty in my blanket rejection of judicial torture
That one from Best Buy, according to Google, appears to be some kind of composite according to a post on another forum from 2013 - not sure what has changed since.
But...prices that low always make me suspicious. I wouldn't trust it myself.
Brands to stay away from are largely based on preference, with a few exceptions: For example, Asus has notoriously bad support, so I try to avoid them. I had an MSI motherboard not long ago that seemed fine, but I didn't like their software or UEFI. Stuff like that.
Christ, yeah. My last ASUS laptop literally had broken speakers and/or fucked up sound drivers. It was so bad my clipboard kept getting huge error text dumps flooded into it, and generating hundreds of MBs to GBs of crash text files. That was if I kept the bad drivers in there. Removing the sound drivers then had the opposite effect of any time Windows played a sound, the audio cut out for five seconds, then resumed. But at least I could copy/paste things.
ASUS was basically like "uh, just return it and ask for a replacement, but we can't promise it won't happen on another one of the same model". :rotate:
This thread convinced me to buy a GeForce GTX 1660 super. GTX 770 treated me well for 7 years but it was time to put it to bed. Hopefully itll quiet down my pc.
Additionally, bought some new fans that are quieter and reading the specs for my case I have realized I installed my psu upside down.
Mildly bummed to miss out on RTX but I got fairly comparable performance for like $200 cheaper so
I agree, I love my 5700, and with the 2080 being the only really powerful RTX card, your saving even more. The 2nd Gen cards will be where it's at. They'll be much more powerful.
Yeah, and by the time we're on that, I figure RTX stuff will be more common. Right now it's a big ask for something that not a whole ton of games support.
Huh. I would have thought my GTX1060 would have been more like a 8.4, but I guess not bad all things considered. The disk score is probably skewed because I have 1 SSD and 2 platter drives. The SSD has windows and all my games on it, one platter drive is for backup and the other is for music, documents, videos, etc...
"Simple, real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time." -Mustrum Ridcully in Terry Pratchett's Hogfather p. 142 (HarperPrism 1996)
When they even bother putting a headphone jack on phones anymore it seems like they use the cheapest possible parts. I never once had a headphone jack break on me on anything I owned till Apple decided they wanted to sell everyone their stupid earpod nonsense and everyone followed the leader.
Huh. I would have thought my GTX1060 would have been more like a 8.4, but I guess not bad all things considered. The disk score is probably skewed because I have 1 SSD and 2 platter drives. The SSD has windows and all my games on it, one platter drive is for backup and the other is for music, documents, videos, etc...
Yeah I think that’s why mine’s so low too - I have a M2 and a SSD but also an ollllld hard drive. I’m currently saving my money to buy a 2TB SSD to just have no mechanical drives at all.
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And everyone should upgrade to an SSD. It doesn't even have to be expensive or fancy, any new SSD from a reputable manufacturer will feel lightning quick compared to an HDD in almost any scenario.
D3DScore : 9.9
DiskScore : 8.95
GraphicsScore : 8.1
MemoryScore : 8.7
WinSATAssessmentState : 1
WinSPRLevel : 8.1
I don't know wtf these numbers mean really. I feel like the graphics score should be higher? I have a 2080 ti.
Im assuming win10? If not the system might not be able to evaluate it correctly, or is picking up an onboard gpu.
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D3DScore : 9.9
DiskScore : 8.1
GraphicsScore : 8.3
MemoryScore : 9.2
TimeTaken : MostRecentAssessment
WinSATAssessmentState : 1
WinSPRLevel : 8.1
I have a GTX 950 that I got cheap, so I'd say I'm pretty happy with that overall. I also have a cheap SSD, so again I'm pretty alright with that.
I settled on a Gigabyte Aorus one because it matched the motherboard I was buying. The ridiculous lights sync up with the ridiculous lights on the motherboard and everything. Of course I don't have a window in the side of my case so you can't see it but it's there
More importantly it can push a lot of the heat generated away with the fan array, and it's got a whole lot of video outputs. I've still got the rubber stoppers in everything but a single HDMI port because it's just plugged into my 55" TV
I've not found a game that runs at anything less than 60fps at 4k on ultra graphics settings but the rest of my system (Ryzen 7 3700X, 64GB RAM) contributes to that too
I've got a 2080ti, for comparison I had a 9.7 and even that felt low.
If any of you play Vavle/Source games right now you might want to abstain for a week or so because the source code got leaked to a bunch of their games and I guess there's an exploit that can run remote code on your PCs via what they discovered in the source. So connecting to a server with a hacker could leave you vulnerable to viruses and all that.
I'm sure valve will patch these soon.
Intel i5-3570
16GB RAM (DDR3, 1600)
GTX 1070 (8GB)
A combination of SSD for Windows and spinning rust for data and games
A 20inch monitor that can only do 1680x1050
Your monitor might not be the greatest, but on the upside, your 1070 should be able to push pretty decent framerates at ultra detail settings?
Monitor maxes at 60Hz, but yeah I can hit that at max settings on the things I play.
This is what I've been looking at to replace it. Unfortunately it's sold out at my local Microcenter and Amazon only has it available 3rd party at a tremendous markup. $180 but out of stock at MC, 300+ on Amazon right now.
Because I'm not going through the hassle of transferring everything over twice in a short timespan
I used acronis to clone my old drive to my new drive, then changed boot priority in bios. Took like 45 minutes, super easy.
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I often forget how good it is until I have to use a work computer, or play a game on console instead of my PC. Hours and hours of your life is lost to these loading times. Reclaim control of your life! Self actualize with a SSD!
Oh, and my equipment:
AMD Ryzen 5 3600
Radeon RX 590
16 GB RAM
HP has some truly awful "enterprise" laptops where the hard drive is literally glued into the chassis, and there's no way to remove it without essentially destroying the shell/sata controller
and they all come with custom 3800 RPM hard drives so you can never upgrade them ever
i essentially had to lie to my employers at the time that I was using only their worthless "secure" work laptop, while getting 3x the work done on my desktop
what the fuck
there should be a law
If price isn't an object, I go with EVGA. They have a close relationship with nVidia so I trust their build quality. Otherwise, I think Gigabyte is my second choice, personally.
For ratings I typically go to Newegg, then I buy elsewhere because their prices + shipping tend to be less favorable than other retailers, especially to reach me overseas.
Edit: Or maybe it's not MSI? This seems to be the best priced one.
But...prices that low always make me suspicious. I wouldn't trust it myself.
Brands to stay away from are largely based on preference, with a few exceptions: For example, Asus has notoriously bad support, so I try to avoid them. I had an MSI motherboard not long ago that seemed fine, but I didn't like their software or UEFI. Stuff like that.
That card is a reference card, it's the same one you can buy from the Nvidia website (or could, if they were in stock there). They used to be manufactured by PNY, not sure if that's still true. I like the reference design for the RTX cards in terms of aesthetics, but other manufacturers can offer better coolers, higher clocks out of the box, etc. I wouldn't strictly avoid the reference design, there's nothing wrong with the card, but you could find better value out there.
Oh I guess to break that down a little I have:
Athlon 2 x3 460 3.4gz three core CPU
a very old platter drive and a somewhat larger newer one
8GB Kingston HyperX 1600mhz DDR3 ram that I think has some flaws
and a Radeon r9 290
https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2020/04/23/apple-hack-mail-iphone/
Maybe I've been too hasty in my blanket rejection of judicial torture
Christ, yeah. My last ASUS laptop literally had broken speakers and/or fucked up sound drivers. It was so bad my clipboard kept getting huge error text dumps flooded into it, and generating hundreds of MBs to GBs of crash text files. That was if I kept the bad drivers in there. Removing the sound drivers then had the opposite effect of any time Windows played a sound, the audio cut out for five seconds, then resumed. But at least I could copy/paste things.
ASUS was basically like "uh, just return it and ask for a replacement, but we can't promise it won't happen on another one of the same model". :rotate:
DiskScore : 8.6
GraphicsScore : 9.4
MemoryScore : 9.2
TimeTaken : MostRecentAssessment
WinSATAssessmentState : 1
WinSPRLevel : 8.6
Not bad, not bad at all
Additionally, bought some new fans that are quieter and reading the specs for my case I have realized I installed my psu upside down.
Mildly bummed to miss out on RTX but I got fairly comparable performance for like $200 cheaper so
I agree, I love my 5700, and with the 2080 being the only really powerful RTX card, your saving even more. The 2nd Gen cards will be where it's at. They'll be much more powerful.
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D3DScore : 9.9
DiskScore : 8.05
GraphicsScore : 8.3
MemoryScore : 8.9
TimeTaken : MostRecentAssessment
WinSATAssessmentState : 1
WinSPRLevel : 8.05
Huh. I would have thought my GTX1060 would have been more like a 8.4, but I guess not bad all things considered. The disk score is probably skewed because I have 1 SSD and 2 platter drives. The SSD has windows and all my games on it, one platter drive is for backup and the other is for music, documents, videos, etc...
When they even bother putting a headphone jack on phones anymore it seems like they use the cheapest possible parts. I never once had a headphone jack break on me on anything I owned till Apple decided they wanted to sell everyone their stupid earpod nonsense and everyone followed the leader.
Yeah I think that’s why mine’s so low too - I have a M2 and a SSD but also an ollllld hard drive. I’m currently saving my money to buy a 2TB SSD to just have no mechanical drives at all.