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[MTG] Throne of Eldraine spoiler season is upon us!

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    jgeisjgeis Registered User regular
    Solar wrote: »
    jgeis wrote: »
    PiptheFair wrote: »
    This set seems like it is going to create a reasonable shakeup, so lots of potential weirdness can happen. Gotta wait for people better than us to throw shit at a wall

    Grand Prix Dallas is the first big modern event after release.

    Someone is going to top 8 with, like, fuckin' bear tribal.

    That'd be sweet tho

    Oh 100%.

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    The BetgirlThe Betgirl I'm Molly! Registered User regular
    I officially signed up for GP seattle last night so i'm gonna be able to play at LEAST one game of sealed modern horizons

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    PiptheFairPiptheFair Frequently not in boats. Registered User regular
    I officially signed up for GP seattle last night so i'm gonna be able to play at LEAST one game of sealed modern horizons

    Gonna titan shift?

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    admanbadmanb unionize your workplace Seattle, WARegistered User regular
    jgeis wrote: »
    Sorry to triple post but holy moly, Magic Online is getting a huge overhaul:


    I like that the new card title bars are just ripped from Magic Arena but lower quality.

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    The BetgirlThe Betgirl I'm Molly! Registered User regular
    PiptheFair wrote: »
    I officially signed up for GP seattle last night so i'm gonna be able to play at LEAST one game of sealed modern horizons

    Gonna titan shift?

    i don't think i can titan shift in sealed

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    PiptheFairPiptheFair Frequently not in boats. Registered User regular
    PiptheFair wrote: »
    I officially signed up for GP seattle last night so i'm gonna be able to play at LEAST one game of sealed modern horizons

    Gonna titan shift?

    i don't think i can titan shift in sealed

    I meant at the gp!

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    The BetgirlThe Betgirl I'm Molly! Registered User regular
    PiptheFair wrote: »
    PiptheFair wrote: »
    I officially signed up for GP seattle last night so i'm gonna be able to play at LEAST one game of sealed modern horizons

    Gonna titan shift?

    i don't think i can titan shift in sealed

    I meant at the gp!

    The GP is sealed pip!!!

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    CururuCururu Registered User regular
    edited May 2019
    jgeis wrote: »
    PiptheFair wrote: »
    This set seems like it is going to create a reasonable shakeup, so lots of potential weirdness can happen. Gotta wait for people better than us to throw shit at a wall

    Grand Prix Dallas is the first big modern event after release.

    Someone is going to top 8 with, like, fuckin' bear squirrel tribal.

    Better!

    Cururu on
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    SolarSolar Registered User regular
    PiptheFair wrote: »
    PiptheFair wrote: »
    I officially signed up for GP seattle last night so i'm gonna be able to play at LEAST one game of sealed modern horizons

    Gonna titan shift?

    i don't think i can titan shift in sealed

    I meant at the gp!

    The GP is sealed pip!!!

    Yeah pip FUCKS sake

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    PiptheFairPiptheFair Frequently not in boats. Registered User regular
    PiptheFair wrote: »
    PiptheFair wrote: »
    I officially signed up for GP seattle last night so i'm gonna be able to play at LEAST one game of sealed modern horizons

    Gonna titan shift?

    i don't think i can titan shift in sealed

    I meant at the gp!

    The GP is sealed pip!!!

    O..oh

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    Zombie HeroZombie Hero Registered User regular
    Yo, I have a really dumb question. As someone largely unfamiliar with paper magic economics:

    Why are the modern boxes twice as expensive (~200 on amazon) than say War of Spark boxes (~110 on amazon)?

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    jgeisjgeis Registered User regular
    Yo, I have a really dumb question. As someone largely unfamiliar with paper magic economics:

    Why are the modern boxes twice as expensive (~200 on amazon) than say War of Spark boxes (~110 on amazon)?

    War of the Spark is a normal expansion, so pricing is in-line with other regular expansions.

    Modern Horizons is considered a special supplemental product with a percieved higher card power/value and thus WotC/retailers feel they can charge more for it.

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    KalTorakKalTorak One way or another, they all end up in the Undercity.Registered User regular
    ...oh my

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    too bad, Changelings

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    VyolynceVyolynce Registered User regular
    Also remember that with no MSRP retailers can do whatever the fuck they want re: pricing. For their part, WotC thinks Horizon packs should cost $7 each (MTGO price).

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    nightmarennynightmarenny Registered User regular
    jgeis wrote: »
    Yo, I have a really dumb question. As someone largely unfamiliar with paper magic economics:

    Why are the modern boxes twice as expensive (~200 on amazon) than say War of Spark boxes (~110 on amazon)?

    War of the Spark is a normal expansion, so pricing is in-line with other regular expansions.

    Modern Horizons is considered a special supplemental product with a percieved higher card power/value and thus WotC/retailers feel they can charge more for it.

    Previous premium sets have actually caused pricing problems where stores start charging more and more money for packs. I thi k my local shop was charging 15 a ton pack for modern masters?

    Hopefully that wont be happening with this set as its supposed to be printing to demand.

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    I needed anime to post.I needed anime to post. boom Registered User regular
    i wish that the bear lord cared about 2 mana 2/2s rather than just bears

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    nightmarennynightmarenny Registered User regular
    As to the why the increased cost, masters sets(of which Horizens is somewhat kin) are built with the intention of spreading more high-cost cards in to the competitive environment to bring prices down. Ideally the average value of a modern masters pack should be much higher than a normal pack. You might be asking why if WotC wants to increase the stock of playable cards why would they limit the supply and charge more? along with the straight forward profit motive WotC also seems concerned with damaging the “second market” which are the various online shops and individuals who buy cards with the intent to sell them for their own tidy profit. Its feared that printing too much of a 100-200 card at too small a price point might decrease the value of these cards too much too fast and break the secondary market. Its arguable if thats even a bad thing but WotC sure wants them around.

    This set isnt exactly like that as we are getting far fewer legacy reprints and far more weakened legacy effects but the idea remains the same. This is a set of unusually powerful cards that will be important for the coming modern season so WotC feels they can charge more.

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    Styrofoam SammichStyrofoam Sammich WANT. normal (not weird)Registered User regular
    So, uh skulls for the skull throne, bears for the bear god?

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    Dr. FlamingoDr. Flamingo 49 Gilded Disc Perceives the Sun Registered User regular
    edited May 2019
    Oh my GOD that Splice/Blade Splicer pun.

    Oh actually, I didn't realize, but that's a new type of Splice! Splice onto any instant or sorcery rather than just arcane.

    Dr. Flamingo on
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    metaghostmetaghost An intriguing odor A delicate touchRegistered User regular
    Re: Cost of Modern Horizons - I do think that they should have priced this at the cost of a traditional set, as I presume the sheer number of new cards means they plan on printing far more than they did any of the Masters sets (as such I imagine it'd suck if this doesn't sell out). But I guess they felt emboldened by the sales of those sets, and the ongoing success of Modern, such that they can press their luck on the sticker price.

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    BoomerAang SquadBoomerAang Squad Registered User regular
    Oh my GOD that Splice/Blade Splicer pun.

    Oh actually, I didn't realize, but that's a new type of Splice! Splice onto any instant or sorcery rather than just arcane.

    It's also the first splice sorcery. All the ones from Kamigawa were instants.

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    KalTorakKalTorak One way or another, they all end up in the Undercity.Registered User regular
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    That’s some good flavor.

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    KnobKnob TURN THE BEAT BACK InternetModerator mod
    They printed urza?

    And he's a walking academy?

    Huh.

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    VyolynceVyolynce Registered User regular
    Oh my GOD that Splice/Blade Splicer pun.

    Oh actually, I didn't realize, but that's a new type of Splice! Splice onto any instant or sorcery rather than just arcane.

    It's also the first splice sorcery. All the ones from Kamigawa were instants.

    ...

    How have I never noticed this before?

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    jgeisjgeis Registered User regular
    edited May 2019



    Edit: Also, Genesis is getting a reprint.

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    KelorKelor Registered User regular
    turtleant wrote: »
    Wonder if there's enough bears to make a passable commander deck with Ayula?

    There should be once you fill it out with a bunch of equipment.

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    turtleantturtleant Gunpla Dad is the best.Registered User regular
    Suspend Mox woo!

    Want that for my old time shenanigans deck.

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    metaghostmetaghost An intriguing odor A delicate touchRegistered User regular
    So, deeply embedded within this lengthy Kotaku article on a perceived "esports bubble" is a bit regarding recent viewership of the first Mythic Championship:
    On the other hand, as better standards begin to roll out, there will always be loopholes for desperate actors. Last month, Magic: The Gathering put on its biggest esports event yet to debut its brand new pro league: a $1 million tournament at Boston’s PAX East convention. At first, viewership on Twitch hovered at around 20,000—a pretty typical amount of viewers for a pro Magic tournament on a weekday. Suddenly, in the afternoon, something miraculous happened: viewership quadrupled to a remarkable 88,000.

    According to a source with knowledge of publisher Wizards of the Coast’s sponsorship strategy, that huge jump in viewership wasn’t a surprise. “Wizards has been pitching the Mythic Championship to potential sponsors for the future and was very confident they would get close to 100,000 viewers,” the source, who asked to remain anonymous for fear of professional repercussions, told Kotaku. “We thought it was weird given the historical viewership of the game.”

    It was weird. Weirder still, the number of people logged into Twitch chat did not meaningfully increase, according to stats obtained by software from TidyXgamer. What accounted for the enormous boon in “viewership”—a boon that Magic itself advertised in its post-mortem blog on the event—was not a stadium’s worth of people suddenly realizing that the tournament was live. It was something a little sketchier...

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    The BetgirlThe Betgirl I'm Molly! Registered User regular
    Wondering if Mox Tantalite will make As Foretold a real deck.

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    Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    Viewership could also spike in the afternoon because people are getting off work/school.

    Humor can be dissected as a frog can, but dies in the process.
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    jgeisjgeis Registered User regular


    That artwork, this has to be Yawgmoth, right?

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    Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    That has to be yawgmoth

    Humor can be dissected as a frog can, but dies in the process.
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    metaghostmetaghost An intriguing odor A delicate touchRegistered User regular
    Could it also be Mishra?

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    jgeisjgeis Registered User regular
    metaghost wrote: »
    Could it also be Mishra?

    Mishra wasn't a Planeswalker

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    PiptheFairPiptheFair Frequently not in boats. Registered User regular
    Yawgmoth didn’t have a spark I thought

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    I needed anime to post.I needed anime to post. boom Registered User regular
    I believe Maro confirmed that the second planeswalker in the set is a new character

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    jgeisjgeis Registered User regular
    Yep, it was just confirmed in replies that this is indeed a totally new Planeswalker. They're also depicted in the art for the Planeswalker sneak attack dude.

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    nightmarennynightmarenny Registered User regular
    Speaking of planeswalker sneak attack do you guys think it might do anything for saheli combo?

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    Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    Huh.

    I guess I just always figured that a character strong enough to throw down with Urza had a spark.

    Humor can be dissected as a frog can, but dies in the process.
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    I needed anime to post.I needed anime to post. boom Registered User regular
    yawgmoth didn't really get in fights so much as perform fantasy eugenics and send armies in

    his actual confrontation was in the form of a living cloud

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