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  • ZayZay yes i am zay Registered User regular
    Congested servers are smart because if you want to stunt the growth of your game, make sure new players can’t play with their friends

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  • AshtonDragonAshtonDragon AKA The Nix Registered User regular
    Miqo'te
    How exactly do you solve server congestion? I mean, "more servers" sounds obvious, but I'd have a hard time convincing my group of friends to move. Hell, as long as login queues aren't a problem, I prefer being on a more populated server.

  • PolaritiePolaritie Sleepy Registered User regular
    Hyur
    How exactly do you solve server congestion? I mean, "more servers" sounds obvious, but I'd have a hard time convincing my group of friends to move. Hell, as long as login queues aren't a problem, I prefer being on a more populated server.

    World visit helps somewhat there, but...

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  • MadicanMadican No face Registered User regular
    Au'Ra
    How exactly do you solve server congestion? I mean, "more servers" sounds obvious, but I'd have a hard time convincing my group of friends to move. Hell, as long as login queues aren't a problem, I prefer being on a more populated server.

    Free transfers, expanding sharding, increased resources. Various methods with their own pros and cons

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  • destroyah87destroyah87 They/Them She/HerRegistered User regular
    edited June 2019
    How exactly do you solve server congestion? I mean, "more servers" sounds obvious, but I'd have a hard time convincing my group of friends to move. Hell, as long as login queues aren't a problem, I prefer being on a more populated server.

    It's not an issue with a one-size fits all answer. The only real way to deal with population congestion and congregation is to do away with discrete servers all together, ie the Guild Wars 2 approach. Anyone can play with anyone and there's no server to pick at account creation.

    In this specific case: I see a couple options Square could've done and a couple choices they can now make.

    Option 1: Don't keep the already populated servers on Aether when splitting off the new Crystal datacenter. IIRC, only Balmung was high-population of the announced split. This isn't really an answer because anyone can still use the free transfer to move back to a server on Aether, possibly because it's seen as "the established datacenter." Possibly because X player is on server Y that isn't moving and I want to be able to play with them after the split. Possibly because "Server Z is the raider server and I really want to be on that datacenter for $reason."
    Option 2: Offer better incentives to move to/stay on Crystal and/or restrict transfers off of Crystal to Aether. Offering incentives is the only possible option here, keeping restrictions will sour the player-base immediately and irrevocably. This also runs the risk of backfiring and making Crystal the congested one, leaving Aether high and dry.
    Option 3: Do server-less game infrastructure, as Guild Wars 2 and WoW do currently, not really an option with the specter of 1.0 code and infra hanging over the game. But something to be said.

    Now that the situation has come into view, choices they can make:

    Choice 1: Offer free/reduced character transfers and incentives to entice players to move to Crystal servers. Likely not to produce an appreciable population shift as players and FC's are entrenched by this point.
    Choice 2: Change what data center a server is a member of to better balance population. The downsides of this are immediate and obvious. A nuclear option, to be clear.
    Choice 3: Somehow work a miracle and get rid of datacenters and servers all together. Friends can play together with friends and anyone can join any FC. aka The Miracle.
    Choice 4: Add brand new servers to Aether, this would give new players a place to go where they can still play with their established friends on Aether. It solves the issue of congested servers not allowing for new player growth. It won't solve the population imbalance at all, instead it just makes it worse and additionally puts more strain on the Aether infrastructure.

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  • KreutzKreutz Blackwater Park, IARegistered User regular
    Miqo'te
    I just hit 62 with SAM, and I don't know if I should be happy that I can actually start using Kenki skills on a regular basis or sad that all of the 60-70 skills seem to be a bunch of boring buttons to fit onto my hotbars.

  • OlivawOlivaw good name, isn't it? the foot of mt fujiRegistered User regular
    Roegadyn
    I’m kind of glad I managed to get my character on Sargatanas, I guess

    If one of my other friends starts playing though, not sure how we’re going to solve that problem. World Visit? Or I’ll just create a new character on another server, I suppose

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  • H0b0manH0b0man Registered User regular
    Au'Ra
    As somebody who mained SAM this expansion, SAM doesn't feel right until you hit 62. Also your level 64, 68, and 70 skills are all very important.

    64 gives you a kenki dump skill when you are AoEing. 68 is one of the biggest skills that separate SAMs that know what they are doing from ones who don't. If you have 3 sen and Hagakure is up it is better dps to use that than Midare. Your lvl 70 skill is a hard hitting ogcd skill.

    You can use the lvl 66 skill, but it's very situational and only if you remember that you have third eye when you know you're about to take damage. Technically it's more efficient kenki usage to use it over your main dump, but the third eye requirement makes it kinda annoying.

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  • BilliardballBilliardball Registered User regular
    Lalafell
    Having had another brush with a bad Mentor, I wish they'd just give out all the rewards from that on the achievement currency thing.

    The people who got into it to actually help people won't care and it'll be a slap in the face to everyone who was in it for the loot and never did anything for anyone.

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  • EnlongEnlong Registered User regular
    Lalafell
    I rarely use the Third Eye thing that does damage. I usually just use Merciful Eyes for the pathetic heal and useful aggro dump.

  • LockedOnTargetLockedOnTarget Registered User regular
    So as a 35 ninja, should I ever use the throwing star thing over the lightning one? Both are ranged single-target attacks, and the only advantage the star seems to have is it take slightly less time to do, due to only using one hand sign instead of two.

  • simulacrumsimulacrum She/herRegistered User regular
    Viera
    So as a 35 ninja, should I ever use the throwing star thing over the lightning one? Both are ranged single-target attacks, and the only advantage the star seems to have is it take slightly less time to do, due to only using one hand sign instead of two.

    I'd just stick to the star
    Depending on your ping doing raiton can cause you to clip your gcd

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  • BahamutZEROBahamutZERO Registered User regular
    Miqo'te
    unintuitively, I have been told the shuriken is actually the one you want to use because you can do the mudra for it and launch it between the global cooldown for your weapon combo buttons, while the lightning one takes long enough to input that you lose some weapon combo button time that is worth more than the difference in potency between the shuriken and the lightning strike.

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  • LockedOnTargetLockedOnTarget Registered User regular
    I did notice that it was easier to fit in between the weapon skills, I guess I just assumed the damage increase was still better.

    Well, good to know!

  • BahamutZEROBahamutZERO Registered User regular
    Miqo'te
    yeah it's very unintuitive

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  • JavenJaven Registered User regular
    Roegadyn
    do ninjutsu macros work if I put a time gap of .3 second or whatever between actions

  • AngelHedgieAngelHedgie Registered User regular
    Roegadyn
    Javen wrote: »
    do ninjutsu macros work if I put a time gap of .3 second or whatever between actions

    Macro resolution is capped at one second.

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  • T4CTT4CT BAFTA-NOMINATED NAFTA-APPROVEDRegistered User regular
    Miqo'te
    Javen wrote: »
    do ninjutsu macros work if I put a time gap of .3 second or whatever between actions

    the minimum wait is 1 second afaik so it ends up being extremely not worth it since the mudra have a 0.5s cooldown

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  • EnlongEnlong Registered User regular
    Lalafell
    I wonder how the DPS will shake out for the Kassatsu Hyoton thing in Shb.

  • PolaritiePolaritie Sleepy Registered User regular
    Hyur
    Enlong wrote: »
    I wonder how the DPS will shake out for the Kassatsu Hyoton thing in Shb.

    If it doesnt have more potency than Raiton it wont be used.

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  • simulacrumsimulacrum She/herRegistered User regular
    edited June 2019
    Viera
    They really really want people to play on crystal

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  • PolaritiePolaritie Sleepy Registered User regular
    Hyur
    Exodus, huh?

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  • BucketmanBucketman Call me SkraggRegistered User regular
    Hrothgar
    I hear people are leaving the server in some kind of mass

  • EnlongEnlong Registered User regular
    Lalafell
    Polaritie wrote: »
    Enlong wrote: »
    I wonder how the DPS will shake out for the Kassatsu Hyoton thing in Shb.

    If it doesnt have more potency than Raiton it wont be used.

    Ration is 400 potency, Hyosho Ranryu is 550. And Shuriken is 280.

  • ph blakeph blake Registered User regular
    Miqo'te
    From the theory-crafting and number crunching I've seen, Shadowbringers NIN will want to use Raiton over Fuma as your filler ninjutsu even if it clips.

    Kinda annoying and I'm sure I'll muscle memory the shuriken for a while, but eh, I'll get over it.

  • BahamutZEROBahamutZERO Registered User regular
    Miqo'te
    is that in 5.0? right now raiton is listed as 360, and fuma shuriken is 240, but I think shuriken also benefits from the slashing damage debuff from shadow fang while raiton does not.

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  • ph blakeph blake Registered User regular
    Miqo'te
    Yeah, Raiton is getting buffed in 5.0 while Fuma is getting indirectly nerfed through the removal of the Dripping Blades trait.

    Of course, this could all technically change from now to release, but as of now it looks like lightning zap will be the way to go in 5.0.

  • BahamutZEROBahamutZERO Registered User regular
    Miqo'te
    did raiton not benefit from dripping blades? the tooltip reads like it would.

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  • ph blakeph blake Registered User regular
    Miqo'te
    Raiton, and most (all?) Ninjutsu besides Fuma Shuriken, is magical damage, not physical, so it gets buffed by things like Foe's Requiem and Devotion but isn't affected by Dripping Blades.

  • BahamutZEROBahamutZERO Registered User regular
    Miqo'te
    "Increases damage dealt via actions by 20%." good tooltip

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  • RadiusRadius Registered User regular
    Miqo'te
    Roommate bought shadowbringers because he's been itching for some new final fantasy, so i guess it's that time for me again as well.

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  • BucketmanBucketman Call me SkraggRegistered User regular
    Hrothgar
    Kyira we will have so much fun together in Eorzia!

  • OlivawOlivaw good name, isn't it? the foot of mt fujiRegistered User regular
    Roegadyn
    So I'm level 30 and just became a Warrior and I guess I bought this game

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  • IronKnuckle's GhostIronKnuckle's Ghost Registered User regular
    I finally beat A Requiem For Heroes! Bring on Shadowbringers!

    (After I do some of these side quests, including an adventure with a particular Inspector that I've been saving as a reward for myself.)

    I'm also tempted to level up DRK some, but that job is going to change a bunch in a couple of weeks. Is there any point? Also: how do tank????

  • JaysonFourJaysonFour Classy Monster Kitteh Registered User regular
    How to tank: rush ahead, pull half the dungeon, scream incoherently about healers and DPS not keeping up.

    How to tank well: pull a group of enemies, beat them to death while keeping aggro on you. If DPS pulls something, they can obviously deal with it themselves, and then remind them that the tank pulls and they just beat things to death. Go at a pace that keeps the party in good shape and is still within the healer's capacity to heal well in. If the DPS bitch about how slow you're taking it, they're welcome to jump and find some other fool willing to speedrun them.

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  • IlpalaIlpala Just this guy, y'know TexasRegistered User regular
    Miqo'te
    I learned how to do A8S unsynced last night!

    Holy fucking CHRIST, was that already a lot, I can't imagine doing it without gavel skip.

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  • AngelHedgieAngelHedgie Registered User regular
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  • I needed anime to post.I needed anime to post. boom Registered User regular
    i pity the player who feels the need to complete the FATE portion of the challenge log

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