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I've done a lot of contract work and this is 100% accurate. Read the contract carefully. If anything sticks out, speak up. If they say "Oh, don't worry about that. We can work all that out later.", No, we'll work it out right now. Anything that is dubious or unclear can and will come back to haunt you. Don't be nice or let anything go.
I've done a lot of contract work and this is 100% accurate. Read the contract carefully. If anything sticks out, speak up. If they say "Oh, don't worry about that. We can work all that out later.", No, we'll work it out right now. Anything that is dubious or unclear can and will come back to haunt you. Don't be nice or let anything go.
Especially true if you join the military, mother was a recruiter and her number one piece of advice was to make sure stuff is in writing and signed cause them giving their word, verbal contract, or assuring you they'll get you what your asking or trying for means jack all unless it's on paper.
This is probably in regards to a streamer tfue(sp?) I think who signed a deal with faze (sp?) its been the story of the minute on the interboobs. Hilariously when I heard about it at first I thought of PA and how they signed away their comic rights once.
I would like some money because these are artisanal nuggets of wisdom philistine.
Despite the humor, they aren't wrong. Read contracts before signing them. Companies will have their own best interests covered before considering you. I worked at a place for 14 years. I want that to be well understood... I was there for 14 YEARS. I only find out after they let me go that the contract I signed when I first took the job included a clause that had me agree not to say they were my employer in my search for future employment, including company name, position or responsibilities, and that I cannot use coworkers as references, due to "the nature of the work this company does." Essentially, younger naïve me agreed to put a 14-year-gap on my resume and can't say why.
Considering in the past they have managed to sign away all of their rights to penny-arcade.com and their IP to some web aggregate sight AND signed away the book rights to some rando, I think they know what they are talking about.
Created an account just to post on this, please have Omen give an 'After School Special' to contract negotiations. With the rise of the gig-economy this will become extremely important to a fast growing segment.
Also super frustrating when it comes to employment contracts when there are a number of clauses that aren't negotiable and are "industry standard." Sure, you can disagree, but you can also not have a job.
I'm looking at you binding arbitration agreements, for example.
The "Being nice makes you a juice box for vampires" applies to pretty much every aspect of life, not just contacts.
If there is a God this is why he has in all likelihood abandoned us. Nobody can do anything nice without someone else using it to just take a big shit all over everyone and everything.
Kinda makes me wonder ho Mr. Rogers survived for so long. Maybe he was TOO nice and the vampires all died of diabetes when they tried to defile his works?
I've done a lot of contract work and this is 100% accurate. Read the contract carefully. If anything sticks out, speak up. If they say "Oh, don't worry about that. We can work all that out later.", No, we'll work it out right now. Anything that is dubious or unclear can and will come back to haunt you. Don't be nice or let anything go.
Especially true if you join the military, mother was a recruiter and her number one piece of advice was to make sure stuff is in writing and signed cause them giving their word, verbal contract, or assuring you they'll get you what your asking or trying for means jack all unless it's on paper.
And going one step further, it is almost definitely that they intend to do that thing which you don't want them to do. It's not even like there's a 50/50 chance or anything.
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That doesn't seem legal? Like you aren't employed there anymore, how can they enforce a tail like that?
If it's cleared work it can be (like you can't identify cleared personnel or agencies for references). Also with certain cleared work you have a lifelong commitment to have your resume reviewed before public posting.
Honestly though as with NDAs, covenants not to compete, and other restrictions on trade I just ignore it as unenforceable and make it a point to just not tell anyone where I go after I leave. That's the best protection. If nobody knows where you went then they won't be coming for you for violating an agreement. Security through obscurity.
I mean until recently fucking fast food restaurants were putting in non compete clauses. Like god damn seriously? You're shitty min wage bullshit job wants to make sure I can't work at another place? Fuck you corporate jackals.
I would like some money because these are artisanal nuggets of wisdom philistine.
The "Being nice makes you a juice box for vampires" applies to pretty much every aspect of life, not just contacts.
If there is a God this is why he has in all likelihood abandoned us. Nobody can do anything nice without someone else using it to just take a big shit all over everyone and everything.
Kinda makes me wonder ho Mr. Rogers survived for so long. Maybe he was TOO nice and the vampires all died of diabetes when they tried to defile his works?
Somewhere along the line western culture confused the idea of "goodness" and "niceness". Where "niceness" is defined as keeping quiet, compromising your interests, and agreeing with things you might find distasteful in order to avoid conflict. That and the perverse idea of looking out for your own interests is somehow a negative, shamed as "selfishness".
If I had to hypothesize it would be that collective public education emphasizes getting along, to make thing easier on the teachers, more than trying to get the best deal you can for yourself.
People in general confuse the idea of being liked and being respected. And when those paths diverge they take the easier path of trying to be liked.
I prefer Good is Not Soft, if only because they went with one of my favorite Terry Pratchett quotes.
And is it still considered moral/ethical to seek the best deal for oneself at the expense of everyone and everything else? You gotta draw the line somewhere. 100 people shouldn't get fucked and suffer a shitty deal because 1 person doesn't care that they're screwing them for a better deal for themselves.
I prefer Good is Not Soft, if only because they went with one of my favorite Terry Pratchett quotes.
And is it still considered moral/ethical to seek the best deal for oneself at the expense of everyone and everything else? You gotta draw the line somewhere. 100 people shouldn't get fucked and suffer a shitty deal because 1 person doesn't care that they're screwing them for a better deal for themselves.
I don't think that was ever true unless your name is Ayn Rand.
I prefer Good is Not Soft, if only because they went with one of my favorite Terry Pratchett quotes.
And is it still considered moral/ethical to seek the best deal for oneself at the expense of everyone and everything else? You gotta draw the line somewhere. 100 people shouldn't get fucked and suffer a shitty deal because 1 person doesn't care that they're screwing them for a better deal for themselves.
I'm not sure how that is relevant to contract negotiations. The comic is pointing out how the process is inherently adversarial and "niceness" and "politeness" and "trust" self-imposed handicaps that prevent you from getting the best outcome.
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Especially true if you join the military, mother was a recruiter and her number one piece of advice was to make sure stuff is in writing and signed cause them giving their word, verbal contract, or assuring you they'll get you what your asking or trying for means jack all unless it's on paper.
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Maybe with more proofreading they wouldn't get in contract trouble so often. :P
Also super frustrating when it comes to employment contracts when there are a number of clauses that aren't negotiable and are "industry standard." Sure, you can disagree, but you can also not have a job.
I'm looking at you binding arbitration agreements, for example.
If there is a God this is why he has in all likelihood abandoned us. Nobody can do anything nice without someone else using it to just take a big shit all over everyone and everything.
Kinda makes me wonder ho Mr. Rogers survived for so long. Maybe he was TOO nice and the vampires all died of diabetes when they tried to defile his works?
And going one step further, it is almost definitely that they intend to do that thing which you don't want them to do. It's not even like there's a 50/50 chance or anything.
Honestly though as with NDAs, covenants not to compete, and other restrictions on trade I just ignore it as unenforceable and make it a point to just not tell anyone where I go after I leave. That's the best protection. If nobody knows where you went then they won't be coming for you for violating an agreement. Security through obscurity.
pleasepaypreacher.net
Somewhere along the line western culture confused the idea of "goodness" and "niceness". Where "niceness" is defined as keeping quiet, compromising your interests, and agreeing with things you might find distasteful in order to avoid conflict. That and the perverse idea of looking out for your own interests is somehow a negative, shamed as "selfishness".
If I had to hypothesize it would be that collective public education emphasizes getting along, to make thing easier on the teachers, more than trying to get the best deal you can for yourself.
People in general confuse the idea of being liked and being respected. And when those paths diverge they take the easier path of trying to be liked.
One of my favorite tropes: https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/GoodIsNotNice
And is it still considered moral/ethical to seek the best deal for oneself at the expense of everyone and everything else? You gotta draw the line somewhere. 100 people shouldn't get fucked and suffer a shitty deal because 1 person doesn't care that they're screwing them for a better deal for themselves.
I don't think that was ever true unless your name is Ayn Rand.
I'm not sure how that is relevant to contract negotiations. The comic is pointing out how the process is inherently adversarial and "niceness" and "politeness" and "trust" self-imposed handicaps that prevent you from getting the best outcome.
Listen to the hedgehog; he knows hedges.
One of my favorite panels ever