I should post that funny video when these guys visit the Annabelle doll.
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So, this might surprise you guys since I haven't seen anyone else mention it, but The Nun is garbo.
I guess I should also specify that it's garbo in that really annoying "utterly and completely mediocre and non-noteworthy in every way possible" way, not the fun way.
The Conjuring is a major upgrade for James Wan after the crapfest that was Insidious. It's not great, but unlike Insidious it is at least competently shot, properly lit, and isn't aggressively stupid. The plot is bog-standard haunted house stuff, with some exorcism thrown in for good measure. It's no Exorcist, but it's solid. The other movies in this series look real dumb though, so I think I'm gonna stop here.
The first sequel is actually a better movie, no joke. Give it a try!
The Conjuring and The Conjuring 2 are both good movies that unfortunately glamorize real life con artists. The spin-off movie about the scary doll is awful. Haven't seen Annabelle 2 or the Nun, so can't really say anything about those.
I don't think those movies really glorify the Warrens. They just treat them like completely fictitious characters when they weren't.
I actually think that's totally fine too as their impact on society is so minimal that it kind of makes sense to use them as characters for a series of horror films.
I've enjoyed all of the Conjuring movies in the universe to some extent as they're all competently shot and acted. That said, they are guilty of the SAW thing in that they are starting to get up their own ass with the continuity and "universe" they're structuring around the films. The Nun was the worst for this and really suffered for it and I think Annabelle Creation was the best for it as it took an element from the original and expanded upon it in a novel way.
The Conjuring is a major upgrade for James Wan after the crapfest that was Insidious. It's not great, but unlike Insidious it is at least competently shot, properly lit, and isn't aggressively stupid. The plot is bog-standard haunted house stuff, with some exorcism thrown in for good measure. It's no Exorcist, but it's solid. The other movies in this series look real dumb though, so I think I'm gonna stop here.
The first sequel is actually a better movie, no joke. Give it a try!
The Conjuring and The Conjuring 2 are both good movies that unfortunately glamorize real life con artists. The spin-off movie about the scary doll is awful. Haven't seen Annabelle 2 or the Nun, so can't really say anything about those.
You take that Back the Warrens were wonderful people who helped so many... I mean all those people didn't need that money.
I remember when the first conjuring movie came out and people kind of were like "What is with Loraine's outfits who in costuming allowed that" and I was thinking "That's exactly how Loraine dresses even now."
Preacher on
I would like some money because these are artisanal nuggets of wisdom philistine.
So, this might surprise you guys since I haven't seen anyone else mention it, but The Nun is garbo.
I guess I should also specify that it's garbo in that really annoying "utterly and completely mediocre and non-noteworthy in every way possible" way, not the fun way.
It was a miserable borefest, yes. Which hey, I mean, the trailers didn't lie, so I deserved what I got in theaters. I do think it's a shame because we get so little of that Castlevania style, ridiculously over the top church-goth aesthetic, and I find that really fun. What do you call that? Catholicpunk?
Such a strange career path for him too, he use to be a serious actor doing movies like forbidden planet, until he got old did Airplane! and suddenly he's one of the funniest men in Hollywood.
It turns out straight laced heavy acting is really fucking funny in absurd situations.
IIRC he always wanted to do comedy but ended up gaining a reputation as a really good serious actor more or less by accident since that was all he'd get cast in for years. Then Airplane finally happened.
Such a strange career path for him too, he use to be a serious actor doing movies like forbidden planet, until he got old did Airplane! and suddenly he's one of the funniest men in Hollywood.
It turns out straight laced heavy acting is really fucking funny in absurd situations.
on the flip side Jim Carry started out as one of the funnies men in Holywood then started doing serious movies and it turns out that he's just a crazy person
Adam Sandler is perfectly capable of being a serious actor, he'd just rather collect an easy paycheck from Netflix for hanging out with his friends and shooting on location in Hawaii or whatever, and y'know what? I gotta respect the grift.
Adam Sandler is perfectly capable of being a serious actor, he'd just rather collect an easy paycheck from Netflix for hanging out with his friends and shooting on location in Hawaii or whatever, and y'know what? I gotta respect the grift.
Nice gig if you're gonna get paid for it anyway, right?
I'm reminded of Ben Affleck and Matt Damon in Jay & Silent Bob Strike Back: "You gotta do the safe picture, then you do the art picture... and sometimes you gotta do the payback picture because your friend says you owe him." (both turn to look directly at the camera)
Zavvi (UK movie retail site) has a BOGOF sale on Arrow Video releases and I am weak. So I ordered Caligula (uncut) and Rollerball. I've only ever seen little bits of both movies so this could get interesting. At least Rollerball has an excellent reputation. Caligula just has a reputation that I am well aware deserves italicizing, but hell, I'll give it a watch. Or at least I'll try to...
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All I'll say about the uncensored version of Little Boots is, you can definitely tell a porn magnate produced it. Though Malcolm McDowell has some amazing scenes of manic insanity.
No matter where you go...there you are. ~ Buckaroo Banzai
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Well that Birds of Prey trailer certainly...uh...looks like a thing.
Maybe it will be better than Suicide Squad? If it can't clear that low bar, DC has a problem...
This is one of those movies where the creation and phenomenon it created is almost as interesting as the movie itself, and I have to say I also thought the spider walk always existed in the original form but nope, I was wrong and I must have seen the rerelease first (I remember seeing the old SNL skit about the movie before seeing the movie). And I have to say as much as I watched Leslie Nielsen movies growing up I never saw Repossessed.
To this day my mom doesn't even allow it to he mentioned in her house. That movie freaks her out
Well that Birds of Prey trailer certainly...uh...looks like a thing.
Maybe it will be better than Suicide Squad? If it can't clear that low bar, DC has a problem...
you mean Oscar winner Suicide Squad
O_o
Best makeup and hairstyling? Really? What else was it up against? (Maybe it really was the best)
It was up against Star Trek Beyond and A Man Called Ove, but there were a bunch of other movies that could've been nominated but weren't from that year
Zavvi (UK movie retail site) has a BOGOF sale on Arrow Video releases and I am weak. So I ordered Caligula (uncut) and Rollerball. I've only ever seen little bits of both movies so this could get interesting. At least Rollerball has an excellent reputation. Caligula just has a reputation that I am well aware deserves italicizing, but hell, I'll give it a watch. Or at least I'll try to...
I love Rollerball a whole lot. James Caan is great, and the plot's some solid 70s sci-fi. It's an interesting juxtaposition of very languid, peaceful beauty against the cheering crowds, crushing hits, revving engines, and the great CLANG! of a point being scored. The movie sounds fantastic.
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The internet being what it is, it gets posted to Reddit and the guy who created the actual split diopter effect for the movie randomly shows up and explains it.
Holy cow!! This is my shot, and I am the creator of this effect!
I am completely tickled that someone noticed, and absolutely blown away that there is a whole video about it!
NerdWriter gets it exactly right— They've done their homework (and I wonder if they even chatted with the DPs?) This is the stuff you're supposed to "feel" rather than notice so I am totally thrilled that this is getting attention!
Just like the video says, Patrick Lin is big on using "physical"-feeling lenses and cameras that look and behave just like real cameras, and he asked me to add split diopter to this shot. In general, we are always looking for ways to make the image feel more organic, imperfect and natural, rather than pristine and "computery", so it was only natural to solve the problem of nearby Gabby and far-away Forky both needing to be sharp by choosing split diopter, which is what a live action DP would have to pick, as well as adding a subtle "creepy/off" vibe that harkens to a lot of older horror/thriller movies— just what we needed for this scene.
As for how it was done, I actually made a change to Pixar's rendering software to get this right! It was not done by post processing or layering two images with different focus, which would give a lower-quality result where the sharp and blurry layers "ghost" over each other in the transition region. Instead, I added a feature to the rendering software so that the focal distance can be set per-pixel. Then I wrote a little mathematical function (just a smoothstep, for the graphics nerds in the audience!) and some controls to change the distance to the focal plane from the left side of the image to the right side. I tweaked the settings so that the transition laid exactly between Gabby and Forky. The end result did not take me more time than post processing would have (maybe less?) and the results looked much better!
OH! More on the subject of "natural" and "physical" lenses. Nerdwriter talks about the quality of the bokeh ("blurriness") behind Bo Peep, and the shape of the circles that the lens makes. We pay a lot of attention to this too! Here's a crop from a still. https://i.imgur.com/TkLBYVP.jpg
See how the circles aren't a perfect, even color? We did that on purpose! And it has to be on purpose, because by default the computer is too perfect and it will make a perfectly clean, smooth circle— but real lenses don't do that; they have detail and imperfection inside the blur. For Toy Story 4, we added new code to the rendering software that allows us to choose a texture image for the blur instead of using a perfect circle!
Again, this is all stuff that adds to the "naturalness" and calculated imperfection of the final image.
The rendering software mathematically models the camera as having a "thin lens". Furthermore, every frame of the movie is created by (in effect) simulating the path of individual photons. If that sounds expensive, it is! There are (give or take) about 100 million simulated photons in in each 1/24th of a second of the movie. It takes a single computer anywhere from 30 to 200 hours to calculate a single frame! That's why Pixar has a gigantic farm of thousands of computers that are crunching numbers 24/7 to make the movie.
Because the photons are simulated, we can change the software so that they bend or bounce any pretty much any way we like (in fact, that is the entire business of making the movie)! I wrote some new code just for the effect in the video which says "when the photon is going through the left half of the image, make the lens bend it so that it is focusing on Gabby; and when it's going through the right half, bend it so that it focuses on Forky."
So there really no cheats. I fixed the software so that it is bending individual light particles in just the right way to make the effect!
What if you woke up in Renaissance Italy and no one knew Bruce Springsteen
You’d be so famous
You joke but the basic premise(they don’t come out and say it but...) of Eddie and the Cruisers was that back in the 60s there was a guy who wrote songs that sound a lot like Bruce Springsteen and then he disappears before the band makes it big. Then in the 80s they try to track him down.
“I was quick when I came in here, I’m twice as quick now”
-Indiana Solo, runner of blades
Hot take, the Beatles are the most overrated band of all time.
That's not to say they aren't talented, and had an impact. But good lord, it's not like they cured cancer.
Battlestar Galactica and Firefly also used fake camera effects on their cgi.
IIRC it was the same studio that did the CG shots for both.
BSG has the advantage of being a couple of years newer (when it started) so HD was becoming a thing, and the shots were rendered in HD originally. Firefly's unfortunately never were, so you can see the resolution drop on the Blu ray version when it cuts to a CG shot. It's a shame, but it's not like Fox were ever going to stump up the money to have every CG shot in the show re-rendered. (Whedon had to fight them just to be able to make the show in widescreen!)
But the style of the virtual camerawork in particular is visibly similar in both shows, with fast zooms and a bit of camera wobble in particular, trying to give the impression of a physical camera existing in that space. And it's a bit heavy-handed in both, but it works.
Battlestar Galactica and Firefly also used fake camera effects on their cgi.
IIRC it was the same studio that did the CG shots for both.
BSG has the advantage of being a couple of years newer (when it started) so HD was becoming a thing, and the shots were rendered in HD originally. Firefly's unfortunately never were, so you can see the resolution drop on the Blu ray version when it cuts to a CG shot. It's a shame, but it's not like Fox were ever going to stump up the money to have every CG shot in the show re-rendered. (Whedon had to fight them just to be able to make the show in widescreen!)
But the style of the virtual camerawork in particular is visibly similar in both shows, with fast zooms and a bit of camera wobble in particular, trying to give the impression of a physical camera existing in that space. And it's a bit heavy-handed in both, but it works.
The Serenity even makes a tiny cameo appearance in the background of a shot in BSG as an easter egg by the effects studio.
Finally got my beta invite to the Alamo Season Pass. For $20 a month I can see a movie a day. Super excited to try this out!
Nice! I've had mine for about two months now. It's a little annoying that there are still service charges with it, so you'll still end up paying something like 2 bucks per movie, but I like the implementation way better than moviepass. Being able to buy additional tickets at the same time you use your pass is really nice.
Finally got my beta invite to the Alamo Season Pass. For $20 a month I can see a movie a day. Super excited to try this out!
Nice! I've had mine for about two months now. It's a little annoying that there are still service charges with it, so you'll still end up paying something like 2 bucks per movie, but I like the implementation way better than moviepass. Being able to buy additional tickets at the same time you use your pass is really nice.
And people shit on moviepass yet look at the ripples made throughout the industry. With out movie pass this wouldn't be a thing.
Moviepass was awesome.
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Finally got my beta invite to the Alamo Season Pass. For $20 a month I can see a movie a day. Super excited to try this out!
Nice! I've had mine for about two months now. It's a little annoying that there are still service charges with it, so you'll still end up paying something like 2 bucks per movie, but I like the implementation way better than moviepass. Being able to buy additional tickets at the same time you use your pass is really nice.
And people shit on moviepass yet look at the ripples made throughout the industry. With out movie pass this wouldn't be a thing.
Moviepass was awesome.
People's problem with Moviepass wasn't the concept, it was the implementation. Aside from the techinical issues of it not working while charging people (or in the case of one PA'er here, the opposite) there was also the fact that they kept on changing the conditions to be more restrictive for exisiting members.
Finally got my beta invite to the Alamo Season Pass. For $20 a month I can see a movie a day. Super excited to try this out!
Nice! I've had mine for about two months now. It's a little annoying that there are still service charges with it, so you'll still end up paying something like 2 bucks per movie, but I like the implementation way better than moviepass. Being able to buy additional tickets at the same time you use your pass is really nice.
And people shit on moviepass yet look at the ripples made throughout the industry. With out movie pass this wouldn't be a thing.
Moviepass was awesome.
People's problem with Moviepass wasn't the concept, it was the implementation. Aside from the techinical issues of it not working while charging people (or in the case of one PA'er here, the opposite) there was also the fact that they kept on changing the conditions to be more restrictive for exisiting members.
Also the whole idea for making it profitable was to sell every ounce of user information to everyone. And extort movie theaters.
I would like some money because these are artisanal nuggets of wisdom philistine.
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El Camino Christmas (Netflix), one of those movies you watch out of desperation to watch something expecting just Netflix original grade meh, but it actually does some things different and is more clever than I expected for a small town bottle-movie hostage dramedy taking place on Christmas Eve. Plus it has a solid b-list of talent, including:
You've got your usual twenty minute setup of characters and then the hostage situation takes place but it's done in a way that is more clever than you expect while still making it seem SOP by what the cops see as being a botched robbery. Then it slows down and you get characterization while the director is basically doing what he can to film the parts with certain actors around their schedules because it all feels like them doing him a favor (he directed First Sunday). Are the characters for the most part original? Not really, and I am getting hella sick of kid with autism being this go-to cheap characterization bit both for the sympathy strings as well as half filling in actual work for the parent in the situation, but best I can describe the movie is a person given generic furniture to work with in decorating a room, and they are able to place things just right to make you nod your head slightly DeNiro style and go "it's pretty decent, pretty good." It does go darker than you expect but does have a nice coda to really try and salvage having it take place on Christmas.
An average movie but one that you can at least respect for working within its budget, a recommend if you want to see decent shoestring budget film making and tire of watching Road House and Baseketball over and over on Netflix.
Finally got my beta invite to the Alamo Season Pass. For $20 a month I can see a movie a day. Super excited to try this out!
Nice! I've had mine for about two months now. It's a little annoying that there are still service charges with it, so you'll still end up paying something like 2 bucks per movie, but I like the implementation way better than moviepass. Being able to buy additional tickets at the same time you use your pass is really nice.
And people shit on moviepass yet look at the ripples made throughout the industry. With out movie pass this wouldn't be a thing.
Moviepass was awesome.
People's problem with Moviepass wasn't the concept, it was the implementation. Aside from the techinical issues of it not working while charging people (or in the case of one PA'er here, the opposite) there was also the fact that they kept on changing the conditions to be more restrictive for exisiting members.
Also the whole idea for making it profitable was to sell every ounce of user information to everyone. And extort movie theaters.
I mean, I very strongly suspect the two go hand in hand.
The only way to make the business model work was to either decrease costs by using their position of controlling a large number of movie viewers to force the theatres to cut them a deal on tickets (thus lowering their cost per ticket) or making the conditions of use restrictive enough that many people bought the service but used it little enough that they lost money on the purchase (thus lowering the number of tickets sold). Or to increase revenue by selling user data.
Without one of those, they are just your standard silicon valley start-up and losing money hand over fist because they aren't making enough money to cover what they are spending.
I watched a really good documentary about a pair of climbers called the the Wide Boyz on youtube recently
It's good because it doesn't really bullshit, or overdo it. It basically outlines that there is this ridiculously niche form of climbing called Offwidth Crack Climbing and that all of the outdoor routes in the US, and two lads from Sheffield in the UK decided to build their own Offwidth route in a cellar, practise on it for two years, and proceeded to take a climbing holiday where they blew every single route in the US including the legendary "Century Crack" out of the water. As a subset of climbing it is brutally, savagely physical and essentially requires you to wreck your body while following a bunch of pretty strict rules for things to count as a proper ascent, and it is worth watching if only to see what kind of person you need to be in order to to do it (hint: you need to enjoy suffering)
Finally got my beta invite to the Alamo Season Pass. For $20 a month I can see a movie a day. Super excited to try this out!
Nice! I've had mine for about two months now. It's a little annoying that there are still service charges with it, so you'll still end up paying something like 2 bucks per movie, but I like the implementation way better than moviepass. Being able to buy additional tickets at the same time you use your pass is really nice.
And people shit on moviepass yet look at the ripples made throughout the industry. With out movie pass this wouldn't be a thing.
Moviepass was awesome.
People's problem with Moviepass wasn't the concept, it was the implementation. Aside from the techinical issues of it not working while charging people (or in the case of one PA'er here, the opposite) there was also the fact that they kept on changing the conditions to be more restrictive for exisiting members.
There was also a great deal of hinky shit going on behind the scenes at that company, like Fyre Festival-level fiscal and operational stupidity and borderline criminal behavior. Give this a read, it's hair-raising
Moviepass took a bunch of venture capitalists money and missed it away while letting a lot of us go to the movies for pretty much nothing. It was pretty good while it lasted.
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I guess I should also specify that it's garbo in that really annoying "utterly and completely mediocre and non-noteworthy in every way possible" way, not the fun way.
I don't think those movies really glorify the Warrens. They just treat them like completely fictitious characters when they weren't.
I actually think that's totally fine too as their impact on society is so minimal that it kind of makes sense to use them as characters for a series of horror films.
You take that Back the Warrens were wonderful people who helped so many... I mean all those people didn't need that money.
I remember when the first conjuring movie came out and people kind of were like "What is with Loraine's outfits who in costuming allowed that" and I was thinking "That's exactly how Loraine dresses even now."
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It was a miserable borefest, yes. Which hey, I mean, the trailers didn't lie, so I deserved what I got in theaters. I do think it's a shame because we get so little of that Castlevania style, ridiculously over the top church-goth aesthetic, and I find that really fun. What do you call that? Catholicpunk?
IIRC he always wanted to do comedy but ended up gaining a reputation as a really good serious actor more or less by accident since that was all he'd get cast in for years. Then Airplane finally happened.
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on the flip side Jim Carry started out as one of the funnies men in Holywood then started doing serious movies and it turns out that he's just a crazy person
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Nice gig if you're gonna get paid for it anyway, right?
I'm reminded of Ben Affleck and Matt Damon in Jay & Silent Bob Strike Back: "You gotta do the safe picture, then you do the art picture... and sometimes you gotta do the payback picture because your friend says you owe him." (both turn to look directly at the camera)
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He's like, yeah I want my paper. Also I always wanted to be a vampire. Deal with it.
He offset it by being in Sexy Beast.
A role in which a good 60-65% of his dialog is the word
~ Buckaroo Banzai
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~ Buckaroo Banzai
Maybe it will be better than Suicide Squad? If it can't clear that low bar, DC has a problem...
you mean Oscar winner Suicide Squad
O_o
Best makeup and hairstyling? Really? What else was it up against? (Maybe it really was the best)
To this day my mom doesn't even allow it to he mentioned in her house. That movie freaks her out
It was up against Star Trek Beyond and A Man Called Ove, but there were a bunch of other movies that could've been nominated but weren't from that year
I love Rollerball a whole lot. James Caan is great, and the plot's some solid 70s sci-fi. It's an interesting juxtaposition of very languid, peaceful beauty against the cheering crowds, crushing hits, revving engines, and the great CLANG! of a point being scored. The movie sounds fantastic.
I recall he also bought a nice car out of the deal.
The internet being what it is, it gets posted to Reddit and the guy who created the actual split diopter effect for the movie randomly shows up and explains it.
https://www.reddit.com/r/videos/comments/dcblqw/the_real_fake_cameras_of_toy_story_4/f284lj3/
Michael Caine said of Jaws: The Revenge:
You joke but the basic premise(they don’t come out and say it but...) of Eddie and the Cruisers was that back in the 60s there was a guy who wrote songs that sound a lot like Bruce Springsteen and then he disappears before the band makes it big. Then in the 80s they try to track him down.
-Indiana Solo, runner of blades
Wasn't there a movie with Nick Cage that did this but with Elvis/The Beatles?
That was a fun movie!
More Eddie and Venom fun times please
https://thelongandshort.org/enterprise/how-the-beatles-revolutionised-medical-imaging
About as close to curing cancer as any rock band has ever done.
IIRC it was the same studio that did the CG shots for both.
BSG has the advantage of being a couple of years newer (when it started) so HD was becoming a thing, and the shots were rendered in HD originally. Firefly's unfortunately never were, so you can see the resolution drop on the Blu ray version when it cuts to a CG shot. It's a shame, but it's not like Fox were ever going to stump up the money to have every CG shot in the show re-rendered. (Whedon had to fight them just to be able to make the show in widescreen!)
But the style of the virtual camerawork in particular is visibly similar in both shows, with fast zooms and a bit of camera wobble in particular, trying to give the impression of a physical camera existing in that space. And it's a bit heavy-handed in both, but it works.
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The Serenity even makes a tiny cameo appearance in the background of a shot in BSG as an easter egg by the effects studio.
Nice! I've had mine for about two months now. It's a little annoying that there are still service charges with it, so you'll still end up paying something like 2 bucks per movie, but I like the implementation way better than moviepass. Being able to buy additional tickets at the same time you use your pass is really nice.
And people shit on moviepass yet look at the ripples made throughout the industry. With out movie pass this wouldn't be a thing.
Moviepass was awesome.
People's problem with Moviepass wasn't the concept, it was the implementation. Aside from the techinical issues of it not working while charging people (or in the case of one PA'er here, the opposite) there was also the fact that they kept on changing the conditions to be more restrictive for exisiting members.
It’s not a very important country most of the time
http://steamcommunity.com/id/mortious
Also the whole idea for making it profitable was to sell every ounce of user information to everyone. And extort movie theaters.
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-Buzz Lightyear
-Netflix's Marvel's Daredevil's Kingpin
-Kristin Bell's Husband
-Red Forman
-Dark Angel
-Dammit Jian Yang!
-Katy from Letterkenny
You've got your usual twenty minute setup of characters and then the hostage situation takes place but it's done in a way that is more clever than you expect while still making it seem SOP by what the cops see as being a botched robbery. Then it slows down and you get characterization while the director is basically doing what he can to film the parts with certain actors around their schedules because it all feels like them doing him a favor (he directed First Sunday). Are the characters for the most part original? Not really, and I am getting hella sick of kid with autism being this go-to cheap characterization bit both for the sympathy strings as well as half filling in actual work for the parent in the situation, but best I can describe the movie is a person given generic furniture to work with in decorating a room, and they are able to place things just right to make you nod your head slightly DeNiro style and go "it's pretty decent, pretty good." It does go darker than you expect but does have a nice coda to really try and salvage having it take place on Christmas.
An average movie but one that you can at least respect for working within its budget, a recommend if you want to see decent shoestring budget film making and tire of watching Road House and Baseketball over and over on Netflix.
I mean, I very strongly suspect the two go hand in hand.
The only way to make the business model work was to either decrease costs by using their position of controlling a large number of movie viewers to force the theatres to cut them a deal on tickets (thus lowering their cost per ticket) or making the conditions of use restrictive enough that many people bought the service but used it little enough that they lost money on the purchase (thus lowering the number of tickets sold). Or to increase revenue by selling user data.
Without one of those, they are just your standard silicon valley start-up and losing money hand over fist because they aren't making enough money to cover what they are spending.
I watched a really good documentary about a pair of climbers called the the Wide Boyz on youtube recently
It's good because it doesn't really bullshit, or overdo it. It basically outlines that there is this ridiculously niche form of climbing called Offwidth Crack Climbing and that all of the outdoor routes in the US, and two lads from Sheffield in the UK decided to build their own Offwidth route in a cellar, practise on it for two years, and proceeded to take a climbing holiday where they blew every single route in the US including the legendary "Century Crack" out of the water. As a subset of climbing it is brutally, savagely physical and essentially requires you to wreck your body while following a bunch of pretty strict rules for things to count as a proper ascent, and it is worth watching if only to see what kind of person you need to be in order to to do it (hint: you need to enjoy suffering)
Anyway, it's called Wide Boyz and it's good
There was also a great deal of hinky shit going on behind the scenes at that company, like Fyre Festival-level fiscal and operational stupidity and borderline criminal behavior. Give this a read, it's hair-raising
https://www.businessinsider.com/inside-story-moviepass-rise-fall-2019-8