Zonugal(He/Him) The Holiday ArmadilloI'm Santa's representative for all the southern states. And Mexico!Registered Userregular
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I think Nat could kill Taskmaster in a variety of ways...
-- Boil him to death in the cooling vat.
-- Have him be sucked out of the shattered window of a depressurizing plane.
-- Have him be shot in the back with a harpoon by his mistress.
-- Trick him into ingesting a compressed gas pellet, causing him to explode.
-- Shoot him with a poison tipped dart and then eject him into outer space.
-- Drop him from the top of the Golden Gate Bridge.
-- Maybe Nat activates a bomb disguised as a key chain, dropping a bust of Wellington on Taskmaster, crushing him.
-- Perhaps Taskmaster is set on fire and then stumbles into a tanker, blowing himself up.
-- He falls to the bottom of an antenna cradle and is later crushed by the falling debris.
-- He is shredded by a Sea-Vac drill.
-- Taskmaster is impaled by a plutonium rod, shot out of a submarine's reactor core at high speed.
-- Nat pulls the cord on Taskmaster's parachute, sucking him into a plane's engine.
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I think Nat could kill Taskmaster in a variety of ways...
-- Boil him to death in the cooling vat.
-- Have him be sucked out of the shattered window of a depressurizing plane.
-- Have him be shot in the back with a harpoon by his mistress.
-- Trick him into ingesting a compressed gas pellet, causing him to explode.
-- Shoot him with a poison tipped dart and then eject him into outer space.
-- Drop him from the top of the Golden Gate Bridge.
-- Maybe Nat activates a bomb disguised as a key chain, dropping a bust of Wellington on Taskmaster, crushing him.
-- Perhaps Taskmaster is set on fire and then stumbles into a tanker, blowing himself up.
-- He falls to the bottom of an antenna cradle and is later crushed by the falling debris.
-- He is shredded by a Sea-Vac drill.
-- Taskmaster is impaled by a plutonium rod, shot out of a submarine's reactor core at high speed.
-- Nat pulls the cord on Taskmaster's parachute, sucking him into a plane's engine.
I think Nat could kill Taskmaster in a variety of ways...
-- Boil him to death in the cooling vat.
-- Have him be sucked out of the shattered window of a depressurizing plane.
-- Have him be shot in the back with a harpoon by his mistress.
-- Trick him into ingesting a compressed gas pellet, causing him to explode.
-- Shoot him with a poison tipped dart and then eject him into outer space.
-- Drop him from the top of the Golden Gate Bridge.
-- Maybe Nat activates a bomb disguised as a key chain, dropping a bust of Wellington on Taskmaster, crushing him.
-- Perhaps Taskmaster is set on fire and then stumbles into a tanker, blowing himself up.
-- He falls to the bottom of an antenna cradle and is later crushed by the falling debris.
-- He is shredded by a Sea-Vac drill.
-- Taskmaster is impaled by a plutonium rod, shot out of a submarine's reactor core at high speed.
-- Nat pulls the cord on Taskmaster's parachute, sucking him into a plane's engine.
This is an awfully specific list...
I think these are Bond villain deaths
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Zonugal(He/Him) The Holiday ArmadilloI'm Santa's representative for all the southern states. And Mexico!Registered Userregular
Absurd, purely absurd.
Listen, Taskmaster isn't the kind of MCU villain that only lives twice, he isn't going to last forever like diamonds. And with Nat's cold pragmatism, she carries a certain live and let die philosophy towards bad guys. Once she has an opening, once she has a view to a kill, it won't just be for your eyes only. While she may not have a license to kill what with the fall of SHIELD, the world is not enough to stop Nat from taking down Taskmaster. He isn't a cat, he's not going to die another day.
One intepretation of Taskmaster is that he has a limited amount of memory and every time he memorizes a move, it punts out some other information to the point where he doesn't even remember who he is anymore.
Like when I took that wine tasting course and forgot how to drive
Listen, Taskmaster isn't the kind of MCU villain that only lives twice, he isn't going to last forever like diamonds. And with Nat's cold pragmatism, she carries a certain live and let die philosophy towards bad guys. Once she has an opening, once she has a view to a kill, it won't just be for your eyes only. While she may not have a license to kill what with the fall of SHIELD, the world is not enough to stop Nat from taking down Taskmaster. He isn't a cat, he's not going to die another day.
I feel like it would have taken me like an hour to do this. It had to have taken you at least a few minutes, right? Like, please tell me you didn't just bang this out in 8 seconds?
Listen, Taskmaster isn't the kind of MCU villain that only lives twice, he isn't going to last forever like diamonds. And with Nat's cold pragmatism, she carries a certain live and let die philosophy towards bad guys. Once she has an opening, once she has a view to a kill, it won't just be for your eyes only. While she may not have a license to kill what with the fall of SHIELD, the world is not enough to stop Nat from taking down Taskmaster. He isn't a cat, he's not going to die another day.
Nat is from Russia, with love!
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Munkus BeaverYou don't have to attend every argument you are invited to.Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPAregular
For Widow against Taskmaster, she's a pretty dang smart spy-type and hand-to-hand combat is just something she can do, not everything she can do. Ideally, she'd never even face off against him and would just straight avoid him to achieve her objective. If she knows a confrontation is forced, she's going to set some things up that simply take his abilities off the table like explosives or fire. Heck, she could just take him out with a sniper rifle from outside normal visual range; he's not bulletproof and doesn't have superspeed, so there's nothing he can do about a bullet coming in from a mile off. Not to mention setting up something like a precision airstrike with a Hellfire missile or the like, which is certainly something she could set up access to.
Aside from all of that and being forced in a straight-up 1v1 fight, her best bet would be to draw things out, innovate, and hope for a lucky break. He's a skilled fighter, but it's not like she's trying to punch out Hulk or even Spider-Man; the guy is still human enough that a bad fall down a flight of stairs could take him out.
The problem is that Tasky is incredibly good at predicting what you're gonna do in a fight. The only people that he can't are both absolutely fucking crazy.
Sure, for Taskmaster at Batman-grade levels of silliness. But he isn't psychic and he isn't a Bullseye or Hawkeye, so any decent writer for him is going to deal with those limits instead of just being lazy and making him basically the perfect fighter all the time. Just because he can mimic your moves means he knows what you're thinking and what you're going to do next. The reason he can make it as a mercenary is because he's pragmatic and knows when to get the hell away from something, not because he's Reverse Batman and wins every theoretical matchup by virtue of getting to prep for it.
Batman-grade levels of silliness? It's just how the character is written. He's supposed to be a big threat that can deal with most all of the regular Avengers because of how he uses his power-set. His biggest weakness is his over-reliance on his powers, in fact. To the point where if he can't predict someone (either because they are nuts or because he hasn't studied them) he can get wrecked. But the biggest thing holding tasky back and the thing that makes him super interesting is that he just cares about the money. His power-set could make him a major villain contender, but he doesn't want that. He wants to get paid.
The one time he got to sit at the big boys table he immediately got blasted by a Doombot and then said "Fuck this, I don't actually want power I want fuckin money" and never again tried to be the big guy in charge.
Humor can be dissected as a frog can, but dies in the process.
I like the idea of a non-evil villain just in it for the money, but then why don't Tony Stark, et al, just cut him a check and get him working for the good guys?
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I like the idea of a non-evil villain just in it for the money, but then why don't Tony Stark, et al, just cut him a check and get him working for the good guys?
The real question is why doesn't he just mimic their signatures and take everyone's money (and enough political/legal cover to get away with it)?
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I like the idea of a non-evil villain just in it for the money, but then why don't Tony Stark, et al, just cut him a check and get him working for the good guys?
The real question is why doesn't he just mimic their signatures and take everyone's money (and enough political/legal cover to get away with it)?
Munkus BeaverYou don't have to attend every argument you are invited to.Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPAregular
I like the idea of a non-evil villain just in it for the money, but then why don't Tony Stark, et al, just cut him a check and get him working for the good guys?
The real question is why doesn't he just mimic their signatures and take everyone's money (and enough political/legal cover to get away with it)?
He's done this, or something similar, a bunch of times.
There a lot of stories where he imitates Stark's voice and mannerisms to get through his security and steal his shit. Happened more often before everyone knew that Tony Stark was also Iron Man (kinda wild that those were the days of yore, huh)
Humor can be dissected as a frog can, but dies in the process.
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Inquisitor772 x Penny Arcade Fight Club ChampionA fixed point in space and timeRegistered Userregular
So if all he cares about is money then why doesn't he just do lowkey stuff like this and live a harmless life in the lap of luxury?
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BlackDragon480Bluster KerfuffleMaster of Windy ImportRegistered Userregular
So if all he cares about is money then why doesn't he just do lowkey stuff like this and live a harmless life in the lap of luxury?
As always dependent on the writer of the moment, but primarily he doesn't like to remain idle and gets bored pretty easily, so he'll take jobs when he doesn't really financially need to just for something to do, like a retiree that gets cabin fever.
No matter where you go...there you are. ~ Buckaroo Banzai
I like the idea of a non-evil villain just in it for the money, but then why don't Tony Stark, et al, just cut him a check and get him working for the good guys?
Because being a hero is a full time gig, with on call hours and no reliable holidays. When super crime happens, somebody has to see to it and it doesn't matter if you just started a super science experiment or put a turkey in the oven or are almost done with a book. You have to go out and punch and be punched because super crime doesn't care about your hobbies.
Being a villain though, you choose your own hours. You want a weekend off? You don't want to get punched in the head today? You just don't do crime and hope you don't wind up near somebody else who's doing crime that you might get blamed for.
I mean, I'd love to believe I'd be a hero if I got super powers, but I don't think I'd want the hours.
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Munkus BeaverYou don't have to attend every argument you are invited to.Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPAregular
I like the idea of a non-evil villain just in it for the money, but then why don't Tony Stark, et al, just cut him a check and get him working for the good guys?
Taskmaster has been 'defeated' a few times via enormous paycheck. But he's a merc for hire. It's a huge paycheck.
Deadpool once got him to take on Osborne's Thunderbolts squad dressed up as Deadpool in order to grift them out of millions of dollars.
Humor can be dissected as a frog can, but dies in the process.
For those who were looking forward to it, Black Widow's release date has officially been bumped back to November 6th.
On closer examination, apparently this used to be the Eternal's release date, which has also been moved back to February 12th, 2021.
... which led to Shang-Chi and the Legend of the Ten Rings being moved from February to May 7th, 2021.
Oh hell, let's just list them all while I'm at it;
Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness is bumped back to Nov 5th, 2021
Thor: Love and Thunder was in Nov but is now set to come out on Feb 18th, 2022.
According to Polygon;
Disney has removed the untitled Marvel project slated for February 2022 from its lineup entirely, but revealed the second untitled Marvel project to be Captain Marvel 2, and bumped it up from July 29, 2022, to July 8 of the same year. (That’s because the fifth Indiana Jones film is now scheduled for Captain Marvel 2’s original date.)
So, TL:DR;
Nov 6th 2020: Black Widow
Feb 12th 2021: The Eternals
May 7th, 2021: Shang-Chi and the Legend of the Ten Rings
July 6th, 2021: Spider-Man 3
Nov 5th, 2021: Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness
Feb 18th, 2022: Thor: Love and Thunder
May 6th, 2022: Black Panther 2
July 8th, 2022: Captain Marvel 2
If they're holding this pattern, it wouldn't shock me to see a Nov 2022 film either, but all of this is of course massively subject to change, based on *gestures at everything*.
Edit: Apparently the sources I was looking at were just listing dates that had moved. Spider-Man 3 and Black Panther 2 have been added to the list.
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First they came for the Muslims, and we said NOT TODAY, MOTHERFUCKER!
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Captain Marvel 2 is 2022? Sheesh. That’s out there.
I think this may inadvertently work out for Marvel. For years there ways always a new movie to see with more to anticipate. Now with such a long stretch of no movies it will feel like going back to happier times when the cycle starts back up.
Apparently the sources I was looking at were only listing adjusted/shifted films. I've updated the previous posted list, though at this point planning for a late 2020 release feels optimistic, and 2021/2022 feel like an eternity away.
I get that the world will likely go back to some semblance of normal eventually, but as much as I wanted to share what I felt was good news, it's still a bit of an uncomfortable feeling projecting that far out when the next few months are, frankly, going to be pretty rough for a lot of people.
First they came for the Muslims, and we said NOT TODAY, MOTHERFUCKER!
Not sure why they don't see this as an opportunity to go all in on a online distribution streaming model, world's one big captive audience right now.
I mean for anything finished production, perhaps nothing coming up is actually at that stage, eh?
They'll probably release New Mutants that way, but no way is Black Widow going to see the same kind of return on investment VOD as it would in theaters.
Not gonna lie those moments are why it's worth seeing opening night
But then also why I go see it two or three times so I can actually hear what the fuck is being said
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I love that they set up Cap being worthy all the way back in Ultron and paid it off so well in Endgame. You just don't get stuff like that with most series.
Endgame was basically 3 hours worth of fanservice that somehow didn't suck.
I think my only notable disappointment with everything up through Homecoming (because that's what feels like the cutoff for me the Infinity Saga) is that Hulk basically never comes out on top as part of the actual MCU (I'm not talking about the sort-of-MCU standalone Hulk movies before Ruffalo took on the role).
It's an overall good thing that they really reigned in the powersets and resisted going crazy with them, but every single time it looked like Hulk was gonna be really laying somebody out at a semi-equivalent level, he got jobbed or left.
Otherwise, they did basically everything I ever wanted them to do, plus a bunch of stuff I didn't think of.
Endgame was basically 3 hours worth of fanservice that somehow didn't suck.
I think my only notable disappointment with everything up through Homecoming (because that's what feels like the cutoff for me the Infinity Saga) is that Hulk basically never comes out on top as part of the actual MCU (I'm not talking about the sort-of-MCU standalone Hulk movies before Ruffalo took on the role).
It's an overall good thing that they really reigned in the powersets and resisted going crazy with them, but every single time it looked like Hulk was gonna be really laying somebody out at a semi-equivalent level, he got jobbed or left.
Otherwise, they did basically everything I ever wanted them to do, plus a bunch of stuff I didn't think of.
I think there's something vastly more interesting in keeping Hulk as OP as he is and the world around him having to deal with that. You can still have Thanos waste him and excuse it with the Power Stone or Hulk not having been transformed that long, but it explains more why he is kept around because he is literally the strongest there is and he can rip the most powerful bad guys in half if need be. With what he does in Ultron, and when you've got access to Thor who seems to be as strong without the drawbacks, there's really not much use in keeping someone that dangerous around.
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-- Boil him to death in the cooling vat.
-- Have him be sucked out of the shattered window of a depressurizing plane.
-- Have him be shot in the back with a harpoon by his mistress.
-- Trick him into ingesting a compressed gas pellet, causing him to explode.
-- Shoot him with a poison tipped dart and then eject him into outer space.
-- Drop him from the top of the Golden Gate Bridge.
-- Maybe Nat activates a bomb disguised as a key chain, dropping a bust of Wellington on Taskmaster, crushing him.
-- Perhaps Taskmaster is set on fire and then stumbles into a tanker, blowing himself up.
-- He falls to the bottom of an antenna cradle and is later crushed by the falling debris.
-- He is shredded by a Sea-Vac drill.
-- Taskmaster is impaled by a plutonium rod, shot out of a submarine's reactor core at high speed.
-- Nat pulls the cord on Taskmaster's parachute, sucking him into a plane's engine.
This is an awfully specific list...
I think these are Bond villain deaths
Listen, Taskmaster isn't the kind of MCU villain that only lives twice, he isn't going to last forever like diamonds. And with Nat's cold pragmatism, she carries a certain live and let die philosophy towards bad guys. Once she has an opening, once she has a view to a kill, it won't just be for your eyes only. While she may not have a license to kill what with the fall of SHIELD, the world is not enough to stop Nat from taking down Taskmaster. He isn't a cat, he's not going to die another day.
Well, now I gotta track that down and watch that.
But no, not a ripoff.
First Appearance of Taskmaster: The Avengers #195 May 1980
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Sorry.
Reminds me of Marvel heroes, where you are just going along, fightin dudes at the docks, and you pick up a VHS tape.
Pretty good stuff
And how...
I feel like it would have taken me like an hour to do this. It had to have taken you at least a few minutes, right? Like, please tell me you didn't just bang this out in 8 seconds?
Lie to me, zonnie.
007 seconds.
Nat is from Russia, with love!
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Batman-grade levels of silliness? It's just how the character is written. He's supposed to be a big threat that can deal with most all of the regular Avengers because of how he uses his power-set. His biggest weakness is his over-reliance on his powers, in fact. To the point where if he can't predict someone (either because they are nuts or because he hasn't studied them) he can get wrecked. But the biggest thing holding tasky back and the thing that makes him super interesting is that he just cares about the money. His power-set could make him a major villain contender, but he doesn't want that. He wants to get paid.
The one time he got to sit at the big boys table he immediately got blasted by a Doombot and then said "Fuck this, I don't actually want power I want fuckin money" and never again tried to be the big guy in charge.
The real question is why doesn't he just mimic their signatures and take everyone's money (and enough political/legal cover to get away with it)?
That's Chameleon's gig
He's done this, or something similar, a bunch of times.
There a lot of stories where he imitates Stark's voice and mannerisms to get through his security and steal his shit. Happened more often before everyone knew that Tony Stark was also Iron Man (kinda wild that those were the days of yore, huh)
As always dependent on the writer of the moment, but primarily he doesn't like to remain idle and gets bored pretty easily, so he'll take jobs when he doesn't really financially need to just for something to do, like a retiree that gets cabin fever.
~ Buckaroo Banzai
Because people who do that kind of thing don't appear in comic books, duh.
No punching, no pages.
Because being a hero is a full time gig, with on call hours and no reliable holidays. When super crime happens, somebody has to see to it and it doesn't matter if you just started a super science experiment or put a turkey in the oven or are almost done with a book. You have to go out and punch and be punched because super crime doesn't care about your hobbies.
Being a villain though, you choose your own hours. You want a weekend off? You don't want to get punched in the head today? You just don't do crime and hope you don't wind up near somebody else who's doing crime that you might get blamed for.
I mean, I'd love to believe I'd be a hero if I got super powers, but I don't think I'd want the hours.
Taskmaster has been 'defeated' a few times via enormous paycheck. But he's a merc for hire. It's a huge paycheck.
Deadpool once got him to take on Osborne's Thunderbolts squad dressed up as Deadpool in order to grift them out of millions of dollars.
Now my head-canon includes Ironman's other rogue gallerie, the one he pays a monthly bribe to sit down and stay quiet.
“Keep your friends rich and your enemies rich, and wait to find out which is which.”
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On closer examination, apparently this used to be the Eternal's release date, which has also been moved back to February 12th, 2021.
... which led to Shang-Chi and the Legend of the Ten Rings being moved from February to May 7th, 2021.
Oh hell, let's just list them all while I'm at it;
Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness is bumped back to Nov 5th, 2021
Thor: Love and Thunder was in Nov but is now set to come out on Feb 18th, 2022.
According to Polygon;
So, TL:DR;
Nov 6th 2020: Black Widow
Feb 12th 2021: The Eternals
May 7th, 2021: Shang-Chi and the Legend of the Ten Rings
July 6th, 2021: Spider-Man 3
Nov 5th, 2021: Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness
Feb 18th, 2022: Thor: Love and Thunder
May 6th, 2022: Black Panther 2
July 8th, 2022: Captain Marvel 2
If they're holding this pattern, it wouldn't shock me to see a Nov 2022 film either, but all of this is of course massively subject to change, based on *gestures at everything*.
Edit: Apparently the sources I was looking at were just listing dates that had moved. Spider-Man 3 and Black Panther 2 have been added to the list.
And Spider-Man 3 is July 2021 apparently
Someday.
Really."
I get that the world will likely go back to some semblance of normal eventually, but as much as I wanted to share what I felt was good news, it's still a bit of an uncomfortable feeling projecting that far out when the next few months are, frankly, going to be pretty rough for a lot of people.
I mean for anything finished production, perhaps nothing coming up is actually at that stage, eh?
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The guy who keeps yelling woo hoo is a bit much, but that sounds like it would have been a great atmosphere.
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But then also why I go see it two or three times so I can actually hear what the fuck is being said
I think my only notable disappointment with everything up through Homecoming (because that's what feels like the cutoff for me the Infinity Saga) is that Hulk basically never comes out on top as part of the actual MCU (I'm not talking about the sort-of-MCU standalone Hulk movies before Ruffalo took on the role).
It's an overall good thing that they really reigned in the powersets and resisted going crazy with them, but every single time it looked like Hulk was gonna be really laying somebody out at a semi-equivalent level, he got jobbed or left.
Otherwise, they did basically everything I ever wanted them to do, plus a bunch of stuff I didn't think of.
I think there's something vastly more interesting in keeping Hulk as OP as he is and the world around him having to deal with that. You can still have Thanos waste him and excuse it with the Power Stone or Hulk not having been transformed that long, but it explains more why he is kept around because he is literally the strongest there is and he can rip the most powerful bad guys in half if need be. With what he does in Ultron, and when you've got access to Thor who seems to be as strong without the drawbacks, there's really not much use in keeping someone that dangerous around.