[MCU] Nevermind, just a case of the ol' ALF method.

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  • Psychotic OnePsychotic One The Lord of No Pants Parts UnknownRegistered User regular
    Yeah, the big secret behind Thanos is that he's ten times more interesting when he's not the main villain.

    Thanos in Annihilation is one of my favorites.

    "yeah...I'll side with you. Seems like you can sate my curiosity in Galactus"
    *Creates an angry galactic construct that destroys the entire Annihilation Wave*
    *Probably "That was my plan" if Drax didn't fulfill his life mission*

  • daveNYCdaveNYC Why universe hate Waspinator? Registered User regular
    Venom was on the Netflix, so I watched it. I can definitely say it was a movie that had Venom in it. Generally it felt half-assed, like a pre-MCU superhero movie where things like character development are optional. It wasn't a total waste and Venom at least had some good lines, but mostly it was further evidence that Sony should just keep on with that Spider Man deal where Marvel makes the movie and Sony gets a fat cut of the profits.

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  • cj iwakuracj iwakura The Rhythm Regent The World on This SideRegistered User regular
    daveNYC wrote: »
    Venom was on the Netflix, so I watched it. I can definitely say it was a movie that had Venom in it. Generally it felt half-assed, like a pre-MCU superhero movie where things like character development are optional. It wasn't a total waste and Venom at least had some good lines, but mostly it was further evidence that Sony should just keep on with that Spider Man deal where Marvel makes the movie and Sony gets a fat cut of the profits.

    I feel like if nothing else, it got Venom and Eddie right, which is a lot more than I can say for Spider-Man 3.

    Personally I'd love to see how he interacts with the MCU Spidey, but that seems pretty unlikely. There's a lot of room for it if they want to be smart, though.

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  • reVersereVerse Attack and Dethrone God Registered User regular
    I liked it when Eddie and Venom kissed.

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  • cloudeaglecloudeagle Registered User regular
    I still say the best Venom is the one in the Spectacular Spider-Man cartoon, mainly because he's the only version that truly makes sense. Specifically, the show takes its sweet time showing he's a childhood friend of Peter's that works in a college lab that studies the symbiote, but Peter/Spidey (accidentally) fucks him over multiple times, culminating in Eddie losing his job (and his ability to stay in college) when the symbiote vanishes (and Spidey tries to destroy it in front of Eddie).

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  • Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver Registered User, ClubPA regular
    Spectacular Spider-man has the best adaptations of a LOT of Spider-man stuff.

    I would dare say the best entirely but for JJJ and that’s not a mark against the show’s version at all.

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  • MorganVMorganV Registered User regular
    Spectacular Spider-man has the best adaptations of a LOT of Spider-man stuff.

    I would dare say the best entirely but for JJJ and that’s not a mark against the show’s version at all.

    And that's because it wasn't J.K. Simmons, right?

    Cause outside maybe RDJ as Stark, I can't think of anyone more built for a character in the MCU than J.K. for JJJ.

    A lot of actors have fully embodied their roles, but as soon as it was announced, you knew it was going to be f'n awesome.

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  • Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver Registered User, ClubPA regular
    MorganV wrote: »
    Spectacular Spider-man has the best adaptations of a LOT of Spider-man stuff.

    I would dare say the best entirely but for JJJ and that’s not a mark against the show’s version at all.

    And that's because it wasn't J.K. Simmons, right?

    Cause outside maybe RDJ as Stark, I can't think of anyone more built for a character in the MCU than J.K. for JJJ.

    A lot of actors have fully embodied their roles, but as soon as it was announced, you knew it was going to be f'n awesome.

    It is entirely because of JK Simmons.

    Also I would argue that Patrick Stewart is the most perfect comic book casting.

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  • cloudeaglecloudeagle Registered User regular
    MorganV wrote: »
    Spectacular Spider-man has the best adaptations of a LOT of Spider-man stuff.

    I would dare say the best entirely but for JJJ and that’s not a mark against the show’s version at all.

    And that's because it wasn't J.K. Simmons, right?

    Cause outside maybe RDJ as Stark, I can't think of anyone more built for a character in the MCU than J.K. for JJJ.

    A lot of actors have fully embodied their roles, but as soon as it was announced, you knew it was going to be f'n awesome.

    It is entirely because of JK Simmons.

    Also I would argue that Patrick Stewart is the most perfect comic book casting.

    Supposedly Patrick Stewart was going to be Mr. Freeze in Batman and Robin before Joel Schumaker went nutso, and I'm still bitter we didn't see it.

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  • klemmingklemming Registered User regular
    I do kinda want to see Patrick Stewart delivering all those ice puns.

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  • cj iwakuracj iwakura The Rhythm Regent The World on This SideRegistered User regular
    MorganV wrote: »
    Spectacular Spider-man has the best adaptations of a LOT of Spider-man stuff.

    I would dare say the best entirely but for JJJ and that’s not a mark against the show’s version at all.

    And that's because it wasn't J.K. Simmons, right?

    Cause outside maybe RDJ as Stark, I can't think of anyone more built for a character in the MCU than J.K. for JJJ.

    A lot of actors have fully embodied their roles, but as soon as it was announced, you knew it was going to be f'n awesome.

    It is entirely because of JK Simmons.

    Also I would argue that Patrick Stewart is the most perfect comic book casting.

    And Ian McKellen, doubly so since they're friends in real life.

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  • Commander ZoomCommander Zoom Registered User regular
    MorganV wrote: »
    Spectacular Spider-man has the best adaptations of a LOT of Spider-man stuff.

    I would dare say the best entirely but for JJJ and that’s not a mark against the show’s version at all.

    And that's because it wasn't J.K. Simmons, right?

    Cause outside maybe RDJ as Stark, I can't think of anyone more built for a character in the MCU than J.K. for JJJ.

    A lot of actors have fully embodied their roles, but as soon as it was announced, you knew it was going to be f'n awesome.

    It is entirely because of JK Simmons.

    Also I would argue that Patrick Stewart is the most perfect comic book casting.

    People were casting him for Xavier back when TNG was still on the air.

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  • ZonugalZonugal The Holiday Armadillo I'm Santa's representative for all the southern states. And Mexico!Registered User regular
    MorganV wrote: »
    Spectacular Spider-man has the best adaptations of a LOT of Spider-man stuff.

    I would dare say the best entirely but for JJJ and that’s not a mark against the show’s version at all.

    And that's because it wasn't J.K. Simmons, right?

    Cause outside maybe RDJ as Stark, I can't think of anyone more built for a character in the MCU than J.K. for JJJ.

    A lot of actors have fully embodied their roles, but as soon as it was announced, you knew it was going to be f'n awesome.

    It is entirely because of JK Simmons.

    Also I would argue that Patrick Stewart is the most perfect comic book casting.

    My favorite comic book casting is Kelsey Grammer for Hank McCoy.

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  • ShadowfireShadowfire Vermont, in the middle of nowhereRegistered User regular
    MorganV wrote: »
    Spectacular Spider-man has the best adaptations of a LOT of Spider-man stuff.

    I would dare say the best entirely but for JJJ and that’s not a mark against the show’s version at all.

    And that's because it wasn't J.K. Simmons, right?

    Cause outside maybe RDJ as Stark, I can't think of anyone more built for a character in the MCU than J.K. for JJJ.

    A lot of actors have fully embodied their roles, but as soon as it was announced, you knew it was going to be f'n awesome.

    It is entirely because of JK Simmons.

    Also I would argue that Patrick Stewart is the most perfect comic book casting.

    People were casting him for Xavier back when TNG was still on the air.

    The X-Men animated series helped a lot.

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  • MorganVMorganV Registered User regular
    cj iwakura wrote: »
    MorganV wrote: »
    Spectacular Spider-man has the best adaptations of a LOT of Spider-man stuff.

    I would dare say the best entirely but for JJJ and that’s not a mark against the show’s version at all.

    And that's because it wasn't J.K. Simmons, right?

    Cause outside maybe RDJ as Stark, I can't think of anyone more built for a character in the MCU than J.K. for JJJ.

    A lot of actors have fully embodied their roles, but as soon as it was announced, you knew it was going to be f'n awesome.

    It is entirely because of JK Simmons.

    Also I would argue that Patrick Stewart is the most perfect comic book casting.

    And Ian McKellen, doubly so since they're friends in real life.

    Yup. And this is the reason that if Christopher Lee hadn't been available, casting Patrick Stewart as Sarumon would have been my next choice. Stewart and McKellan on opposite sides (both positionally and morally) in two massive franchises.

    And while Lee was great at the evil Saruman part, I think Stewart might have been able to pull off the early fake nobility/friendship (for those not familiar with the source), that Lee's general look doesn't naturally lend itself too. There's a reason Lee was often cast as a bad guy.

  • Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver Registered User, ClubPA regular
    Zonugal wrote: »
    MorganV wrote: »
    Spectacular Spider-man has the best adaptations of a LOT of Spider-man stuff.

    I would dare say the best entirely but for JJJ and that’s not a mark against the show’s version at all.

    And that's because it wasn't J.K. Simmons, right?

    Cause outside maybe RDJ as Stark, I can't think of anyone more built for a character in the MCU than J.K. for JJJ.

    A lot of actors have fully embodied their roles, but as soon as it was announced, you knew it was going to be f'n awesome.

    It is entirely because of JK Simmons.

    Also I would argue that Patrick Stewart is the most perfect comic book casting.

    My favorite comic book casting is Kelsey Grammer for Hank McCoy.

    That’s top five easy for me.

    It’s a shame they never did anything of substance with it.

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  • HevachHevach Registered User regular
    MorganV wrote: »
    Spectacular Spider-man has the best adaptations of a LOT of Spider-man stuff.

    I would dare say the best entirely but for JJJ and that’s not a mark against the show’s version at all.

    And that's because it wasn't J.K. Simmons, right?

    Cause outside maybe RDJ as Stark, I can't think of anyone more built for a character in the MCU than J.K. for JJJ.

    A lot of actors have fully embodied their roles, but as soon as it was announced, you knew it was going to be f'n awesome.

    It is entirely because of JK Simmons.

    Also I would argue that Patrick Stewart is the most perfect comic book casting.

    People were casting him for Xavier back when TNG was still on the air.

    In the second of the X-men/Star Trek crossovers, the X-men briefly mistake Picard for Xavier before they figure out where they are. This was several years before the first movie was cast.

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  • schussschuss Registered User regular
    Finally caught up on movies as I'm self-quarantining post-flight. Filling in missing pieces - Iron Man 2, 3, Ultron, Civil War, Homecoming, Inifinity War, Ant Man/Wasp and Endgame.

    Random musing - Steel and other prices must be through the roof with all the huge bunkers and stuff.

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  • FencingsaxFencingsax It is difficult to get a man to understand, when his salary depends upon his not understanding GNU Terry PratchettRegistered User regular
    Hevach wrote: »
    MorganV wrote: »
    Spectacular Spider-man has the best adaptations of a LOT of Spider-man stuff.

    I would dare say the best entirely but for JJJ and that’s not a mark against the show’s version at all.

    And that's because it wasn't J.K. Simmons, right?

    Cause outside maybe RDJ as Stark, I can't think of anyone more built for a character in the MCU than J.K. for JJJ.

    A lot of actors have fully embodied their roles, but as soon as it was announced, you knew it was going to be f'n awesome.

    It is entirely because of JK Simmons.

    Also I would argue that Patrick Stewart is the most perfect comic book casting.

    People were casting him for Xavier back when TNG was still on the air.

    In the second of the X-men/Star Trek crossovers, the X-men briefly mistake Picard for Xavier before they figure out where they are. This was several years before the first movie was cast.

    Don 't they also do the Dr McCoy confusion like they did in the crossover comic?

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  • NobeardNobeard North Carolina: Failed StateRegistered User regular
    Hugh Jackman eventually made Wolverine his, but from the very beginning I thought he was too tall and too handsome for the role Really need someone shorter and hairier, a real kavorka man to fit the role.

    I'm not saying we are going to have an autocratic dystopia, but things keep happening that look like they come from an autocratic dystopia.
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  • WiseManTobesWiseManTobes Registered User regular
    I don't care what size the next Wolverine is, just give him a Canadian accent!

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  • RingoRingo HE KEEPS REPEATING THE LINE I'M GONNA CRY BLEASE LET HIM LIVE YOU MADE ME WATCH SO MUCH KISSING IN THIS FILM LET INIGO LIVERegistered User regular
    I don't care what size the next Wolverine is, just give him a Canadian accent!

    How do you scream "MORPH!" in Canada?

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    I know my last visit to my grandpa on his deathbed was to find out how the whole Nazi werewolf thing turned out.
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  • ZonugalZonugal The Holiday Armadillo I'm Santa's representative for all the southern states. And Mexico!Registered User regular
    I want the next live-action Wolverine to be a Japanese actor.

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  • BogartBogart Streetwise Hercules Fighting The Rising Odds Registered User, Moderator mod
    Jackman was a brilliant Wolverine.

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  • RingoRingo HE KEEPS REPEATING THE LINE I'M GONNA CRY BLEASE LET HIM LIVE YOU MADE ME WATCH SO MUCH KISSING IN THIS FILM LET INIGO LIVERegistered User regular
    He is amazing in Logan, but that's about all for me.

    Wolverine has never really been portrayed well as a superhero

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    I know my last visit to my grandpa on his deathbed was to find out how the whole Nazi werewolf thing turned out.
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  • WiseManTobesWiseManTobes Registered User regular
    Ringo wrote: »
    I don't care what size the next Wolverine is, just give him a Canadian accent!

    How do you scream "MORPH!" in Canada?

    Eh Morph, you around?

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  • MorganVMorganV Registered User regular
    Ringo wrote: »
    I don't care what size the next Wolverine is, just give him a Canadian accent!

    How do you scream "MORPH!" in Canada?

    Eh Morph, you around, ay?

    It's not Canadian if it doesn't end with an unnecessary vowel sound.

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  • CanadianWolverineCanadianWolverine Registered User regular
    MorganV wrote: »
    Ringo wrote: »
    I don't care what size the next Wolverine is, just give him a Canadian accent!

    How do you scream "MORPH!" in Canada?

    Eh Morph, you around, ay?

    It's not Canadian if it doesn't end with an unnecessary vowel sound.

    Its 'eh' and its totally necessary :D

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    MorganV wrote: »
    Ringo wrote: »
    I don't care what size the next Wolverine is, just give him a Canadian accent!

    How do you scream "MORPH!" in Canada?

    Eh Morph, you around, ay?

    It's not Canadian if it doesn't end with an unnecessary vowel sound.

    Its 'eh' and its totally necessareh :D

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  • SlortexSlortex In my chairRegistered User regular
    You can't have Logan speak with an actual Canadian accent because there's no way to make that style of speech gritty and badass.

  • BlackDragon480BlackDragon480 Bluster Kerfuffle Master of Windy ImportRegistered User regular
    edited June 29
    Slortex wrote: »
    You can't have Logan speak with an actual Canadian accent because there's no way to make that style of speech gritty and badass.

    Especially in bright yellow and blue spandex.

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    Logan: It’s aboot fucking time, eh?

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  • FencingsaxFencingsax It is difficult to get a man to understand, when his salary depends upon his not understanding GNU Terry PratchettRegistered User regular
    Kept ya waiting, donchyaknow?

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  • OremLKOremLK Registered User regular
    edited June 29
    If Tom Cruise can play a not-short guy in 16 bajillion movies Hugh Jackman can play a short one in 7 or 8 (or whatever it was). His handsome has always been the more rugged type anyway, especially since he bulked up for the role.

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  • Undead ScottsmanUndead Scottsman Registered User regular
    Except Jackman didn't play a short guy, he played a 6'2" version of Wolverine. If the had pulled some LotR level stuff (ignoring that LotR wasn't out yet) to make him appear to be 5'2", I would be more okay with it. (I would have still think they should cast someone short, but Hollywood is gonna Hollywood)

    Even Tom Cruise, who is only a couple inches outside of the average height for an adult man, is frequently shot to be made to look taller. Small guys are almost never allowed to be badasses or cool. They're comic relief.

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  • HevachHevach Registered User regular
    edited June 29
    Nobeard wrote: »
    Hugh Jackman eventually made Wolverine his, but from the very beginning I thought he was too tall and too handsome for the role Really need someone shorter and hairier, a real kavorka man to fit the role.

    They didn't start doing the shaved down/oiled up muscle man schtick with him until Origins. The first movie, guy was hairier than a 70's porno. By Last Stand he was trimmed up a bit but still more hair than pecs showing under that shirt.

    By Wolverine he was waxed, chiseled, and water-cut into a Masters of the Universe action figure and they put more oil on his chest than in the hair of the entire cast of Happy Days.

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  • zekebeauzekebeau Registered User regular
    Except Jackman didn't play a short guy, he played a 6'2" version of Wolverine. If the had pulled some LotR level stuff (ignoring that LotR wasn't out yet) to make him appear to be 5'2", I would be more okay with it. (I would have still think they should cast someone short, but Hollywood is gonna Hollywood)

    Even Tom Cruise, who is only a couple inches outside of the average height for an adult man, is frequently shot to be made to look taller. Small guys are almost never allowed to be badasses or cool. They're comic relief.

    Joe Pesci would disagree.

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    snikt bub snikt snikt bub eh?

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  • HevachHevach Registered User regular
    edited June 29
    Fun Canadian slang words I learned in retail that Wolverine should use: Skookum, chooch (can't find a source on this one, but hear it from a couple Canadian youtubers and encountered it in real life years ago, seems to be a replacement for any verb meant to make that verb better, might be more regional than Canadian in general but it's a fun word).

    "Hey'is skookum, eh?"
    "I... uh... I'm sorry?"
    "S'it gonna chooch?"
    "I'm sorry sir I know you think you're clarifying but..."
    "IS THIS A GOOD DRILL I thought you Americans were all about English as the official language GOD!"

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  • Undead ScottsmanUndead Scottsman Registered User regular
    zekebeau wrote: »
    Except Jackman didn't play a short guy, he played a 6'2" version of Wolverine. If the had pulled some LotR level stuff (ignoring that LotR wasn't out yet) to make him appear to be 5'2", I would be more okay with it. (I would have still think they should cast someone short, but Hollywood is gonna Hollywood)

    Even Tom Cruise, who is only a couple inches outside of the average height for an adult man, is frequently shot to be made to look taller. Small guys are almost never allowed to be badasses or cool. They're comic relief.

    Joe Pesci would disagree.

    I said almost never. It happens, but it's very rare. Even in Pesci's case he did a lot of comedy as well.

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