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US Immigration Policy - Travel advisory: don't go to the South if you're Hispanic/Latino

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  • Giggles_FunsworthGiggles_Funsworth Paranoiac Bay Area SprawlRegistered User regular
    edited August 27
    Good to know you guys really love your Constitution over there. I mean, after all, it's the foundation of your exemplary democracy, I can't imagine anyone would ever violate it. I'm sure everyone is just as fervent about upholding its amendments equally, right? I mean, the 2nd is just as important as the 4th, right?

    Speaking as half of a young professional White couple that had the misfortune of traveling through Texas with California plates; I got some real bad news for you.

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  • DarkPrimusDarkPrimus premium Registered User regular

    (Ken Dilanian is an NBC News correspondent)

    Yes, you read that correctly. A Harvard freshman had their visa revoked and was deported because some of the people they were friends with on social media said things critical of the United STates.

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  • Man in the MistsMan in the Mists regular Registered User regular
    And we've reached the point where the appropriate gif would be the "This is fine" dog melting.

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    Just another banana republic, only bigger

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    My country, right or wrong!

    (But I don't wanna hear nuthin' 'bout being wrong!)

  • MillMill regular Registered User regular
    God, I hope at some point all the fascist fuckers that infest ICE and CBE get prosecuted and spend rest of the fucking days rotting in some shitty US prison.

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  • CalicaCalica regular Registered User regular
    Henroid wrote: »
    Yeah at this point I'd rather drop dead than risk going to the South.

    Edit - If anyone is wondering about the thread title change it isn't a joke. If local governments / law enforcement are operating at that level of racial profiling, I'm considering it actually dangerous to travel through those states.

    I don't disagree in the slightest and the response I've been getting in the Gun Control thread for saying "Hey, minorities use weapons in self defense a lot and have historically to great effect in hostile conditions." is fuckin' wild. There is basically a mostly cold civil war happening down here and in the PNW right now; and law enforcement is a lot more infiltrated down here than it is up there.

    Can you summarize, if you don't mind? I tend to stay out of gun control threads.

    Jedoc wrote: »
    The GOP cares about babies until they're born, soldiers until they're in need of care, and families until they interfere with stockholder dividends.
  • CelestialBadgerCelestialBadger regular Registered User regular
    Calica wrote: »
    Henroid wrote: »
    Yeah at this point I'd rather drop dead than risk going to the South.

    Edit - If anyone is wondering about the thread title change it isn't a joke. If local governments / law enforcement are operating at that level of racial profiling, I'm considering it actually dangerous to travel through those states.

    I don't disagree in the slightest and the response I've been getting in the Gun Control thread for saying "Hey, minorities use weapons in self defense a lot and have historically to great effect in hostile conditions." is fuckin' wild. There is basically a mostly cold civil war happening down here and in the PNW right now; and law enforcement is a lot more infiltrated down here than it is up there.

    Can you summarize, if you don't mind? I tend to stay out of gun control threads.

    It just got locked, so I wouldn't recommend starting up again here!

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  • kimekime Queen of Blades Registered User regular
    Calica wrote: »
    Henroid wrote: »
    Yeah at this point I'd rather drop dead than risk going to the South.

    Edit - If anyone is wondering about the thread title change it isn't a joke. If local governments / law enforcement are operating at that level of racial profiling, I'm considering it actually dangerous to travel through those states.

    I don't disagree in the slightest and the response I've been getting in the Gun Control thread for saying "Hey, minorities use weapons in self defense a lot and have historically to great effect in hostile conditions." is fuckin' wild. There is basically a mostly cold civil war happening down here and in the PNW right now; and law enforcement is a lot more infiltrated down here than it is up there.

    Can you summarize, if you don't mind? I tend to stay out of gun control threads.

    (No, he's been temp banned)

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  • Commander ZoomCommander Zoom regular Registered User regular
    (Giggles got tempbanned, he won't be able to answer you for a while.)

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  • MorganVMorganV regular Registered User regular
    Mill wrote: »
    God, I hope at some point all the fascist fuckers that infest ICE and CBE get prosecuted and spend rest of the fucking days rotting in some shitty US prison.

    As do I.

    But I doubt that'll happen. Outside of maybe a few examples being set, the very worst I can see is most of those provably intentionally in the wrong will probably be "asked" to resign, with no further consequence. Those standing by, or "just following orders", will probably at worst get a minor ding in their personal file.

    I hope I'm wrong, but outside of the slim to none chance ICE gets abolished (and even then, I can see a large number of ex-ICE joining whatever governmental division ends up with a quasi-similar role), I can't see anyone facing consequence, except for the appointed positions (who'll shift to conservative welfare), because that's just the way shit goes. Any attempt to do further is going to be described as partisan, and I can't see Democrats having the nerve to call bullshit on that.

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  • CalicaCalica regular Registered User regular
    kime wrote: »
    Calica wrote: »
    Henroid wrote: »
    Yeah at this point I'd rather drop dead than risk going to the South.

    Edit - If anyone is wondering about the thread title change it isn't a joke. If local governments / law enforcement are operating at that level of racial profiling, I'm considering it actually dangerous to travel through those states.

    I don't disagree in the slightest and the response I've been getting in the Gun Control thread for saying "Hey, minorities use weapons in self defense a lot and have historically to great effect in hostile conditions." is fuckin' wild. There is basically a mostly cold civil war happening down here and in the PNW right now; and law enforcement is a lot more infiltrated down here than it is up there.

    Can you summarize, if you don't mind? I tend to stay out of gun control threads.

    (No, he's been temp banned)

    Oh. Oops.

    Anyway, my question was on the "cold civil war" remark, not the gun control aspect.

    Jedoc wrote: »
    The GOP cares about babies until they're born, soldiers until they're in need of care, and families until they interfere with stockholder dividends.
  • HenroidHenroid Radio Demon Internet HellRegistered User regular
    And we've reached the point where the appropriate gif would be the "This is fine" dog melting.
    We've only now reached that point? Some of us are ashes at this point.

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  • discriderdiscrider regular Registered User regular
    Calica wrote: »
    kime wrote: »
    Calica wrote: »
    Henroid wrote: »
    Yeah at this point I'd rather drop dead than risk going to the South.

    Edit - If anyone is wondering about the thread title change it isn't a joke. If local governments / law enforcement are operating at that level of racial profiling, I'm considering it actually dangerous to travel through those states.

    I don't disagree in the slightest and the response I've been getting in the Gun Control thread for saying "Hey, minorities use weapons in self defense a lot and have historically to great effect in hostile conditions." is fuckin' wild. There is basically a mostly cold civil war happening down here and in the PNW right now; and law enforcement is a lot more infiltrated down here than it is up there.

    Can you summarize, if you don't mind? I tend to stay out of gun control threads.

    (No, he's been temp banned)

    Oh. Oops.

    Anyway, my question was on the "cold civil war" remark, not the gun control aspect.

    He was sharing stories about minorities not only being targeted at protests, but also being targeted and stabbed whilst walking alone at night, and then the victim being afraid to go to the police or the hospital and needing to be stitched up by friends.

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  • CalicaCalica regular Registered User regular
    discrider wrote: »
    Calica wrote: »
    kime wrote: »
    Calica wrote: »
    Henroid wrote: »
    Yeah at this point I'd rather drop dead than risk going to the South.

    Edit - If anyone is wondering about the thread title change it isn't a joke. If local governments / law enforcement are operating at that level of racial profiling, I'm considering it actually dangerous to travel through those states.

    I don't disagree in the slightest and the response I've been getting in the Gun Control thread for saying "Hey, minorities use weapons in self defense a lot and have historically to great effect in hostile conditions." is fuckin' wild. There is basically a mostly cold civil war happening down here and in the PNW right now; and law enforcement is a lot more infiltrated down here than it is up there.

    Can you summarize, if you don't mind? I tend to stay out of gun control threads.

    (No, he's been temp banned)

    Oh. Oops.

    Anyway, my question was on the "cold civil war" remark, not the gun control aspect.

    He was sharing stories about minorities not only being targeted at protests, but also being targeted and stabbed whilst walking alone at night, and then the victim being afraid to go to the police or the hospital and needing to be stitched up by friends.
    :bigfrown:

    Unfortunately not surprising, though.

    Thanks.

    Jedoc wrote: »
    The GOP cares about babies until they're born, soldiers until they're in need of care, and families until they interfere with stockholder dividends.
  • ViskodViskod regular Registered User regular
    edited August 28
    Seems like after the President made that stupid tweet about storms heading toward Puerto Rico someone in the Administration had an idea.


    Kyle Griffin of MSNBC: The Trump admin is pulling $271 million in funding from the Department of Homeland Security, including the FEMA's Disaster Relief Fund, to pay for immigration detention space and temporary hearing locations for asylum-seekers, NBC News reports.

    Viskod on
    Artereis wrote: »
    It's not your fault, Viskod. 1 out of every 10 people just happens to be a monster.
  • FCDFCD regular Registered User regular
    I am so tired.

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  • XaquinXaquin regular Right behind you!Registered User regular
    didn't they just get like 5 or 6 billion for that?

  • MortiousMortious The Nightmare Begins Move to New ZealandRegistered User regular
    Good thing you guys don't have a bunch of regular occurring natural disasters.

    Move to New Zealand
    It’s not a very important country most of the time
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  • CelestialBadgerCelestialBadger regular Registered User regular
    Mortious wrote: »
    Good thing you guys don't have a bunch of regular occurring natural disasters.

    Don't worry, it'll be the liberals' fault (if the disaster hits a blue state) and an emergency (which both sides will be glad to release funds for) if the disaster hits a red state.

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  • Blackhawk1313Blackhawk1313 regular Registered User regular
    Mortious wrote: »
    Good thing you guys don't have a bunch of regular occurring natural disasters.

    Don't worry, it'll be the liberals' fault (if the disaster hits a blue state) and an emergency (which both sides will be glad to release funds for) if the disaster hits a red state.

    You say this but the reality is he’ll definitely blame liberals if a blue state/Puerto Rico gets hit but if a red state does they’ll make a big fuss about needing to support them but still never actually give them money/support (e.g.) Florida Panhandle.

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  • daveNYCdaveNYC Why universe hate Waspinator? Registered User regular
    Mortious wrote: »
    Good thing you guys don't have a bunch of regular occurring natural disasters.

    Don't worry, it'll be the liberals' fault (if the disaster hits a blue state) and an emergency (which both sides will be glad to release funds for) if the disaster hits a red state.

    You say this but the reality is he’ll definitely blame liberals if a blue state/Puerto Rico gets hit but if a red state does they’ll make a big fuss about needing to support them but still never actually give them money/support (e.g.) Florida Panhandle.

    Dorian is going to hit Puerto Rico as a tropical storm today. Between Trump's racism and incompetence it's impossible to tell if the timing of this is coincidental or intentional, but that doesn't really matter I guess.

    Shut up, Mr. Burton! You were not brought upon this world to get it!
  • ArbitraryDescriptorArbitraryDescriptor regular Registered User regular
    daveNYC wrote: »
    Mortious wrote: »
    Good thing you guys don't have a bunch of regular occurring natural disasters.

    Don't worry, it'll be the liberals' fault (if the disaster hits a blue state) and an emergency (which both sides will be glad to release funds for) if the disaster hits a red state.

    You say this but the reality is he’ll definitely blame liberals if a blue state/Puerto Rico gets hit but if a red state does they’ll make a big fuss about needing to support them but still never actually give them money/support (e.g.) Florida Panhandle.

    Dorian is going to hit Puerto Rico as a tropical storm today. Between Trump's racism and incompetence it's impossible to tell if the timing of this is coincidental or intentional, but that doesn't really matter I guess.

    ICE ran out of money [again], so the timing is probably a coincidence.

    Removing all moral and ethical transgressions from consideration, the simple fact that ICE consistently runs out of money before the end of the year should be cause enough to shut it down and redistribute it's responsibilities to agencies who know how to budget for them.

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  • ViskodViskod regular Registered User regular
    edited August 28
    It's an embarrassment that this kind of behavior by a President, probably won't even make the evening news.
    When aides have suggested that some orders are illegal or unworkable, Trump has suggested he would pardon the officials if they would just go ahead, aides said. He has waved off worries about contracting procedures and the use of eminent domain, saying “take the land,” according to officials who attended the meetings.

    Don’t worry, I’ll pardon you,” he has told officials in meetings about the wall.

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    It's not your fault, Viskod. 1 out of every 10 people just happens to be a monster.
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  • DibbitDibbit regular Registered User regular
    Viskod wrote: »
    It's an embarrassment that this kind of behavior by a President, probably won't even make the evening news.
    When aides have suggested that some orders are illegal or unworkable, Trump has suggested he would pardon the officials if they would just go ahead, aides said. He has waved off worries about contracting procedures and the use of eminent domain, saying “take the land,” according to officials who attended the meetings.

    Don’t worry, I’ll pardon you,” he has told officials in meetings about the wall.

    To be honest, if Trump told me "Don't worry, I'll do [x] to help you out if you do illegal [y]" I wouldn't trust him to actually help me out on anything, and seems I'm not the only one.

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  • DarkPrimusDarkPrimus premium Registered User regular
    It doesn't matter if he doesn't follow through with it, saying he would do it is bad enough.

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    Viskod wrote: »
    Seems like after the President made that stupid tweet about storms heading toward Puerto Rico someone in the Administration had an idea.


    Kyle Griffin of MSNBC: The Trump admin is pulling $271 million in funding from the Department of Homeland Security, including the FEMA's Disaster Relief Fund, to pay for immigration detention space and temporary hearing locations for asylum-seekers, NBC News reports.

    Still not enough to afford toothbrushes or soap, though.

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  • GaddezGaddez regular Registered User regular
    edited August 28
    DarkPrimus wrote: »

    (Ken Dilanian is an NBC News correspondent)

    Yes, you read that correctly. A Harvard freshman had their visa revoked and was deported because some of the people they were friends with on social media said things critical of the United STates.

    Wouldn't this be an epic violation of the first amendment?

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    Richy wrote: »
    But I think the resistance I’m getting more has to do with “rawr! Loklar said it! Rage!” than anything else.

    No, it has to do with the fact that you're done nothing but throw lies, blatant flasehoods, and downright dumb statements at us so far.
  • ZibblsnrtZibblsnrt regular Registered User regular
    Trump's started ordering his people to unilaterally seize land and break the law as needed to get his wall built, saying he'll just pardon them anyway if they're convicted of anything.

    Naturally, the White House claims jussajoakbro as always.

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  • PolaritiePolaritie Sleepy Registered User regular
    Gaddez wrote: »
    DarkPrimus wrote: »

    (Ken Dilanian is an NBC News correspondent)

    Yes, you read that correctly. A Harvard freshman had their visa revoked and was deported because some of the people they were friends with on social media said things critical of the United STates.

    Wouldn't this be an epic violation of the first amendment?

    Since when did little things like the constitution stop ICE?

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  • Santa ClaustrophobiaSanta Claustrophobia Ho Ho Ho Disconnecting from Xbox LIVERegistered User regular
    Just how will you seize it, dickhead?

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  • MorganVMorganV regular Registered User regular
    Just how will you seize it, dickhead?

    I can think of a few ways. All wildly illegal, and spectacularly stupid.

    1) He's still got troops down there for Operation Sitting-On-Ass-Waiting-For-Invasion, no? Use them.
    2) Call Betsy's brother, and have him lead that operation.
    3) Authorize construction crews to enlist armed guards.

    It'd be the dumbest fucking thing he's done so far (and that's a low bar to crawl under), so, what, coinflip odds he tries?

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  • HenroidHenroid Radio Demon Internet HellRegistered User regular
    Polaritie wrote: »
    Gaddez wrote: »
    DarkPrimus wrote: »

    (Ken Dilanian is an NBC News correspondent)

    Yes, you read that correctly. A Harvard freshman had their visa revoked and was deported because some of the people they were friends with on social media said things critical of the United STates.

    Wouldn't this be an epic violation of the first amendment?

    Since when did little things like the constitution stop ICE?
    So joke aside, we're actually in the middle of a crises where we have people in government insisting that the Constitution only applies to US citizens (despite the wording declaring otherwise).

    Even Saddam Hussein got a trial. Everything going on right now is just... god fucking damn it.

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  • PolaritiePolaritie Sleepy Registered User regular
    Henroid wrote: »
    Polaritie wrote: »
    Gaddez wrote: »
    DarkPrimus wrote: »

    (Ken Dilanian is an NBC News correspondent)

    Yes, you read that correctly. A Harvard freshman had their visa revoked and was deported because some of the people they were friends with on social media said things critical of the United STates.

    Wouldn't this be an epic violation of the first amendment?

    Since when did little things like the constitution stop ICE?
    So joke aside, we're actually in the middle of a crises where we have people in government insisting that the Constitution only applies to US citizens (despite the wording declaring otherwise).

    Even Saddam Hussein got a trial. Everything going on right now is just... god fucking damn it.

    Despite SCOTUS ruling otherwise as well, but.

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  • ElldrenElldren Is a woman dammit I'm a good person yes it's trueRegistered User regular
    Henroid wrote: »
    Polaritie wrote: »
    Gaddez wrote: »
    DarkPrimus wrote: »

    (Ken Dilanian is an NBC News correspondent)

    Yes, you read that correctly. A Harvard freshman had their visa revoked and was deported because some of the people they were friends with on social media said things critical of the United STates.

    Wouldn't this be an epic violation of the first amendment?

    Since when did little things like the constitution stop ICE?
    So joke aside, we're actually in the middle of a crises where we have people in government insisting that the Constitution only applies to US citizens (despite the wording declaring otherwise).

    Even Saddam Hussein got a trial. Everything going on right now is just... god fucking damn it.

    It's worse than that

    The argument is that the Constitution and all protection of law only applies to people they decide are US citizens.

    i.e. white conservatives

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  • ZibblsnrtZibblsnrt regular Registered User regular
    Elldren wrote: »
    It's worse than that

    The argument is that the Constitution and all protection of law only applies to people they decide are US citizens.

    Speaking of that:



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  • DevoutlyApatheticDevoutlyApathetic regular Registered User regular
    Fuck.

    Good job with the continued evisceration of the diplomatic corps. There are gonna be some extremely pissed of veterans when they figure out what that means.

    Alternative: Still trying to fuck over McCain even after he's dead.

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  • SleepSleep regular Registered User regular
    Zibblsnrt wrote: »
    Elldren wrote: »
    It's worse than that

    The argument is that the Constitution and all protection of law only applies to people they decide are US citizens.

    Speaking of that:



    So, if you're in the army, deployed overseas and have your family with you, and your wife has a kid... that kid is essentially a citizen of nowhere?

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  • shrykeshryke Member of the Beast Registered User regular
    Zibblsnrt wrote: »
    Elldren wrote: »
    It's worse than that

    The argument is that the Constitution and all protection of law only applies to people they decide are US citizens.

    Speaking of that:



    If true, is that even a matter of government policy or is it actually just a straight constitutional issue? Like, can the government even make the decision?

    If that's what this means, there's gonna be some major court cases either way.

  • DevoutlyApatheticDevoutlyApathetic regular Registered User regular
    edited August 28
    Sleep wrote: »
    Zibblsnrt wrote: »
    Elldren wrote: »
    It's worse than that

    The argument is that the Constitution and all protection of law only applies to people they decide are US citizens.

    Speaking of that:



    So, if you're in the army, deployed overseas and have your family with you, and your wife has a kid... that kid is essentially a citizen of nowhere?

    Jus Sanguinis still applies. Of course, if you were 18 when you joined and got shipped overseas real quick and your wife was, say, a foreign national you met while deployed, well then your kid isn't a US citizen.

    GOP being very forward thinking in Birther-ing the presidential candidates in 40 years.

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