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Secret [Anime] Thread

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  • BroloBrolo Broseidon Lord of the BroceanRegistered User regular
    The Bebop dub gives spike a much different personality than the sub, apparently.




    I don't think they really deviate all that much between english spike and japanese spike, like his lines in the sub are pretty close to his english voice lines, and I don't remember much in the delivery that was dramatically different

    i guess the sub lines could be missing some nuance from the spoken japanese though


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  • Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver Registered User, ClubPA regular
    I am told that the dub delivery makes Spike a bit more of a dork during the jokey jokey bits and while the sub is still good you don’t get as much variance with the delivery.

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  • DoodmannDoodmann Registered User regular
    Man that song choice is just top notch every time.

    I need to go re-watch Cowboy Bebop.

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  • Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver Registered User, ClubPA regular
    Doodmann wrote: »
    Man that song choice is just top notch every time.

    I need to go re-watch Cowboy Bebop.
    That music cue is one of my favorite things of all time

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  • Kevin CristKevin Crist Please don't go, I'll eat you whole I love you so, I love you so I love you soRegistered User regular
    The directors commentary for FLCL mentioned at some point that they felt the English dub was very well done and better than the original Japanese at times.

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  • EvilOtakuEvilOtaku Registered User regular
    I think Panty and Stocking actually works better in english. Though there is something charming about english swear words through a japanese filter.

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  • Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver Registered User, ClubPA regular
    I prefer the Brotherhood dub to the original. A lot.

    And there is something about the string of swears that mean I have to watch Black Lagoon in English.

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  • AngelHedgieAngelHedgie Registered User regular
    I prefer the Brotherhood dub to the original. A lot.

    And there is something about the string of swears that mean I have to watch Black Lagoon in English.



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  • ReynoldsReynolds Raving Rabbit Registered User regular
    Somehow my brain merged these two songs together, and the mashup was stuck in my head for the last few days.



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  • CouscousCouscous Registered User regular
    I kind of want someone to do an anime documentary that intentionally avoids the really big stuff.

    Give me that info on those anime that became extremely poorly dubbed in the late '80s and early '90s.

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  • Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver Registered User, ClubPA regular
    Couscous wrote: »
    I kind of want someone to do an anime documentary that intentionally avoids the really big stuff.

    Give me that info on those anime that became extremely poorly dubbed in the late '80s and early '90s.

    Ain’t no better dub than the Devilman OVA dub

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  • GR_ZombieGR_Zombie Krillin It Registered User regular
    edited August 13
    How’s that Netflix Devilman show?

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  • DoodmannDoodmann Registered User regular
    GR_Zombie wrote: »
    How’s that Netflix Devilman show?

    Grosser than you expect on almost every level, but well animated.

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    GR_Zombie wrote: »
    How’s that Netflix Devilman show?

    no personal experience but seems well loved by twitter

  • Beef AvengerBeef Avenger Registered User regular
    Devilman Crybaby?

    it's A Lot

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  • italianranmaitalianranma Registered User regular
    I'm curious actually, are there any anime that Japanese fans prefer the English Dub of over the original?

    Give me some time; most of my friends who speak fluent English aren't big anime fans, but I've met a few here. It shouldn't be any surprise, but there are a lot of nerds in the Japanese military too. Still, if I were a betting man, I'd say there's a better chance of finding a unicorn in Shibuya than a native Japanese person who prefers an English dub voice. As one might expect they're pretty proud of their cultural products, and voice actors here are much more revered than even American icons like Matt Mercer or Tara Strong. Getting someone like Liam Neeson to voice over Takuya Kimura just doesn't have any impact because Kimura is a fucking legend here.

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  • italianranmaitalianranma Registered User regular
    The directors commentary for FLCL mentioned at some point that they felt the English dub was very well done and better than the original Japanese at times.

    Oh, actually this reminds me of one case I do know about where the English version was superior: the Final Fantasy XIV localization team went ham-wild on all the puns, especially when translating quest names. Japanese audiences eventually discovered this and punpunshite* requested more puns be integrated into the Japanese text as well!

    *Translator's note: "pun" is the sound of anger, like when you see that pound symbol appear on someone's forehead. So ぷんぷんして is angrily. And yes, Square translators made this joke.

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  • MadicanMadican No face Registered User regular
    Yeah I think it would be easier to list a quest name in FF14 that's NOT a pun or reference of some sort. They have some fun with those things.

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  • PiptheFairPiptheFair Registered User regular
    Devilman Crybaby?

    it's A Lot

    like

    A LOT

    it's incredibly animated and really stylish, but oof a lot of what happens is gross as shit

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  • AngelHedgieAngelHedgie Registered User regular
    edited August 13
    The directors commentary for FLCL mentioned at some point that they felt the English dub was very well done and better than the original Japanese at times.

    Oh, actually this reminds me of one case I do know about where the English version was superior: the Final Fantasy XIV localization team went ham-wild on all the puns, especially when translating quest names. Japanese audiences eventually discovered this and punpunshite* requested more puns be integrated into the Japanese text as well!

    *Translator's note: "pun" is the sound of anger, like when you see that pound symbol appear on someone's forehead. So ぷんぷんして is angrily. And yes, Square translators made this joke.

    Yeah, Koji's pretty much a mad genius (emphasis on mad), but it's worth pointing out that while born in the US, he's spent most of his professional life in Japan as well.

    Edit: It's also sad that one of his masterpieces was lost to 1.0 - he wrote the text for a goldsmithing levequest to be about you supplying jewelry for a demand for...intimate piercings.

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  • BroloBrolo Broseidon Lord of the BroceanRegistered User regular
    I love when localization teams put puns and jokes back into their translations.

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  • TNTrooperTNTrooper Registered User regular
    I find when it comes to dubs it depends on the atmosphere of the show. Black Lagoon, and Panty & Stocking both sound great in English since when it comes to a fuckton of swearing while firing guns and sassy high school girls trading bitchy insults nothing beats English. Space Dandy is another one were English sounds more right.

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  • AngelHedgieAngelHedgie Registered User regular
    TNTrooper wrote: »
    I find when it comes to dubs it depends on the atmosphere of the show. Black Lagoon, and Panty & Stocking both sound great in English since when it comes to a fuckton of swearing while firing guns and sassy high school girls trading bitchy insults nothing beats English. Space Dandy is another one were English sounds more right.

    Baccano! is another, in large part because the English version gets the accents right.

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  • l_gl_g Registered User regular
    edited August 14
    PiptheFair wrote: »
    Devilman Crybaby?

    it's A Lot

    like

    A LOT

    it's incredibly animated and really stylish, but oof a lot of what happens is gross as shit

    It is so gonzo that at times/all the time it will really force people's ability to suspend disbelief. If you go in as a Devilman fan, it is the best thing ever. If you go in as a Yuasa fan, you will have an easier time just going along with it. If you go in as neither, it's... uh, a ride. If you are able to keep your disbelief suspended, it has some of the biggest feels of any recent anime and a lot of big ideas/themes to chew on. But it is so wtf that I can see a lot of people bouncing off it real fast.

    It is very big on showing humans at their very worst. The "villain" effectively has a plan and persona that is totally edgy-cool but even in this gonzo-ass show is monstrous. It doesn't matter if the villains get their comeuppance, because all the victims and incidental casualties of the whole affair suffered and died horribly. There is no punishment which undoes their crimes.

    I do think it has a lot of ideas which are relevant to current times, like how some of the worst traits in humanity are ones which are the most powerful in uniting people into monstrous mobs, or how all kinds of vigilante superhero traits like being unbound by any sense of rules or human connections together with fearless capability not only leads to monsters but monsters which people will admire and follow. Angry mobs of people are one of the scariest things in the show. The hero's traits of being openly compassionate, empathetic and unabashedly tearful from his feelings are something that gets scoffed at by nearly everybody else in that world, but it is what humans and society are in desperate need of. There's plenty that could be found about the deeply negative effects of the cult of masculinity in the show.

    I think it's amazing, though it is a thing which is pretty full of wtf-ery.

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  • GR_ZombieGR_Zombie Krillin It Registered User regular
    Is there any kind of sexual violence?

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  • Moth 13Moth 13 Volcaregular Registered User regular
    GR_Zombie wrote: »
    Is there any kind of sexual violence?

    Yes.

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  • AnzekayAnzekay Registered User regular
    Devilman Crybaby is a show that I think is extremely good and never ever want to watch ever again.

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  • ph blakeph blake Registered User regular


    I somehow missed this from a few days ago, but Shirobako movie teaser!

    Only 30 seconds long and the movie is a year away from being released in Japan so who fucking knows how long till I'll actually get to see it, but who cares it's still Shirobako!!!

    (You should watch Shirobako, it's a great show)

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  • TofystedethTofystedeth veni, veneri, vamoosi Registered User regular
    edited August 14
    EvilOtaku wrote: »
    I think Panty and Stocking actually works better in english. Though there is something charming about english swear words through a japanese filter.

    One of my favorite moments in Hitoribocchi
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    That whole scene was really funny because the text she is reading right before that is the English script for the previous scene, but the teacher says he actually wanted her to read the next page. Which would have just been the current scene presumably.

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  • Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver Registered User, ClubPA regular
    Anzekay wrote: »
    Devilman Crybaby is a show that I think is extremely good and never ever want to watch ever again.

    Also the soundtrack rips

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  • l_gl_g Registered User regular
    edited August 14
    Anzekay wrote: »
    Devilman Crybaby is a show that I think is extremely good and never ever want to watch ever again.

    Also the soundtrack rips

    Yeah, even if you never watch the show, the soundtrack is totally worth a listen.
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    I somehow missed this from a few days ago, but Shirobako movie teaser!

    Only 30 seconds long and the movie is a year away from being released in Japan so who fucking knows how long till I'll actually get to see it, but who cares it's still Shirobako!!!

    (You should watch Shirobako, it's a great show)

    Shirobako contains one of the single best explanations about how keyframing for 3D animation can easily go wrong and result in animation that looks curiously bland, and how to approach it from the point of view of 2D animation timing. I wish they just put that snippet up on their official channel so that it can be referenced by any one at any time, rather than needing to rely on 3rd party clips of it that youtube takes down.

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  • TNTrooperTNTrooper Registered User regular
    ph blake wrote: »


    I somehow missed this from a few days ago, but Shirobako movie teaser!

    Only 30 seconds long and the movie is a year away from being released in Japan so who fucking knows how long till I'll actually get to see it, but who cares it's still Shirobako!!!

    (You should watch Shirobako, it's a great show)

    Wonder what real life production train wreck this is going to based on.

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  • Lord_AsmodeusLord_Asmodeus goeticSobriquet: Here is your magical cryptic riddle-tumour: I AM A TIME MACHINERegistered User regular
    yeah but the problem with the soundtrack is that makes me think of the anime

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  • PolarisPolaris I am powerless against the sky. Registered User regular
    I've been sitting here with this Avatar and this Signature for 6 or so years, so I guess I should recommend Jormungand.

    If you like Black Lagoon you might like it..

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    Trailer for ID:INVADED. New original anime by director Ei Aoki who has directed Re:Creators, Aldnoah.Zero and Fate/Zero in the past. (I guess he has a thing for weird punctuation in titles)
    Airing sometime in 2020. Looks trippy.

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  • miscellaneousinsanitymiscellaneousinsanity grass grows, birds fly, sun shines, and brother, i hurt peopleRegistered User regular
    got to see Millennium Actress in a theater tonight

    Millennium Actress: still extremely fucking good

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  • King RiptorKing Riptor Registered User regular
    Polaris wrote: »
    I've been sitting here with this Avatar and this Signature for 6 or so years, so I guess I should recommend Jormungand.

    If you like Black Lagoon you might like it..

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  • PolarisPolaris I am powerless against the sky. Registered User regular
    edited August 14
    Polaris wrote: »
    I've been sitting here with this Avatar and this Signature for 6 or so years, so I guess I should recommend Jormungand.

    If you like Black Lagoon you might like it..

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    Edit: I... don't like the dub... Sorry, I couldn't quickly find the subbed trailer...

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  • Lord_AsmodeusLord_Asmodeus goeticSobriquet: Here is your magical cryptic riddle-tumour: I AM A TIME MACHINERegistered User regular
    edited August 14
    I liked Jormungand a lot but the ending frustrated me

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    So like, the main character and co. create a super AI that can knock anything out of the sky (that has a computer in it), and she somehow thinks that being denied the skies will somehow shock people out of war, a completely insane plan that kills thousands of people and will create massive issues, and like 5 minutes later we learn that gee whiz, who'd have guessed, it didn't do shit. People are still going to war. And hell, with all nuclear missiles rendered useless, it's actually all the more likely major powers will come to actual blows again since nuking each other is way harder now. And I mean that isn't even getting into my own pet issues of how locking people on the planet earth indefinitely is likely to kill off our species or knock us back to a pre-industrial age eventually, since Earth's resources are finite and there isn't infinite space for population growth so I mean unless someone eventually knocks it down goodbye to humanity ever benefiting from the essentially infinite amounts of room and resources in space. I hope making the situation on Earth essentially like a hundred times worse in the long AND short term was worth the 5 minutes of deluding yourself into thinking you could keep humans from fighting by what, hurting their pride? Making them feel helpless? This character is supposed to be uber educated but I feel like a single basic psychology course could demonstrate a numerous ways that that wouldn't work.

    /rant

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  • DarkPrimusDarkPrimus Registered User regular
    Mother's Basement reviews the Netflix anime documentary (spoiler: he's not a fan):




    Read this interview with the director of Into the Anime if you want to witness a trainwreck in interview form.

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