Also the last poll got a total of 96 votes, with a bunch of what I suspect are kosh alts sliding in at the end to give Battletech the unexpected victory over both Gundam and EVA!!!!!
Never put on a poll an option you don't want to win (even if you diabolically split it into two separate options)...
We got him on tape admitting to the gerrymandering, boys
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Also the last poll got a total of 96 votes, with a bunch of what I suspect are kosh alts sliding in at the end to give Battletech the unexpected victory over both Gundam and EVA!!!!!
Never put on a poll an option you don't want to win (even if you diabolically split it into two separate options)...
We got him on tape admitting to the gerrymandering, boys
The last chat closed before I could state how appalled I am at the temperatures some of y'all are refrigerating your living spaces too.
Reminds me of reading reviews on AC units and finding a ton that were basically "This unit won't consistently bring the temperature in my apartment down to 16C in the middle of the summer heat waves. 2 stars." and I'm like "What the fuck are you doing?"
The last chat closed before I could state how appalled I am at the temperatures some of y'all are refrigerating your living spaces too.
Reminds me of reading reviews on AC units and finding a ton that were basically "This unit won't consistently bring the temperature in my apartment down to 16C in the middle of the summer heat waves. 2 stars." and I'm like "What the fuck are you doing?"
Room Temperatures, In Order Of Moral Laxity
60°
Permissable for brief bursts in extreme circumstances, for example upon arriving home after forgetting to leave the windows open on a summer day so the entire living room has a whole pent-up afternoon’s worth of stale sun-heat that needs to be ironed out before you can even imagine doing the dishes. Think of it like one of those old-fashioned skin-care rules, like how your grandmother recommends ending a shower with a few seconds of ice-cold water to brace your pores. It’s not the same as letting the shower run cold the entire time – you’ve still got plenty of comfort remaining to you – but it’s invigorating, ennobling, opens up the sinuses and the heart to new possibilities. A temperature you could finally solve a murder mystery by.
61°
Unnecessary. Fit perhaps for stern women and men who live alone and combat viruses or study electrons, but not for the likes of you. It’s not a mark against you, mind; you shouldn’t force yourself to work up to such a temperature any more than you should feel guilty for not inventing the stratoscope or being Copernicus. Copernicus was Copernicus, and no one holds it against you for not being Copernicus first.
62°
An interesting, complicated temperature. Not for everyday use, but perhaps a soothing background for profound emotional work like consolidating grief or getting one of those really painful massages that promise to only start feeling good a day or two afterwards.
63°
A touch of reserve, even austerity. You eat small, simple meals, usually of herring and rye, and sleep lightly if at all. You are not opposed to pleasure, but you parcel it out with prudence and careful husbanding.
64°
At this temperature, every home becomes a church and all words a prayer and a love-offering to a thoughtful God. A temperature that consecrates even the simplest and most humble of actions: “As Brother Lawrence had found such an advantage in walking in the presence of God, it was natural for him to recommend it earnestly to others. More strikingly, his example was a stronger inducement than any arguments he could propose. His very countenance was edifying with such a sweet and calm devotion appearing that he could not but affect the beholders.
It was observed, that in the greatest hurry of business in the kitchen, he still preserved his recollection and heavenly-mindedness. He was never hasty nor loitering, but did each thing in its season with an even uninterrupted composure and tranquillity of spirit. ‘The time of business,’ said he, ‘does not with me differ from the time of prayer. In the noise and clutter of my kitchen, while several persons are at the same time calling for different things, I possess God in as great tranquillity as if I were upon my knees at the Blessed Supper.’”
65°
Perfectly reasonable. Fit for all purposes – strengthens a failing constitution, cheers a troubled spirit, soothes the jangled nerves, fills the heart with goodwill.
66°
Perfectly reasonable.
67°
Perfectly reasonable.
68°
Perfectly reasonable.
69°
A compromise for cowards. The equivalent of lighting a cigarette when one has promised a good woman in one’s letters to quit the nasty habit forever, smoking it until one is sick, then lying to her. A failure of decency, of nerve, of backbone, of resolution, and one that gives the sinner no pleasure in committing the offense, thereby being damnable twice over.
70°
Scarcely bearable, particularly for sleep; useful for jolting the house into a baseline of comfort during an ice storm, perhaps, but surely never intended for extended use. More long-range studies are needed if scientists are ever to offer an official judgment on the salutary effects of 70°on the human body over a period of years. Possible side effects include impatience, suspicion, paranoia, fitful sheet-kicking, colic, lovers’ quarrels, bed-humidity, and moral impairment.
71°
An act of aggression, to drive someone you no longer cherish out-of-doors. How sharper than a serpent’s tooth, etc.
72°
Useful for rehearsing a Tennessee Williams’ play if one’s cast seems unable to really find their characters, staring murderously at a fly on the wall, detoxing, planning a heist, arguing with a sequestered jury, having 1950s-era-zeitgeist-collapsing passionate sex, being a detective, etc.
73°
I can't divulge information about that customer's secret, illegal account. Oh — I shouldn't have said he was a customer. Oh — I shouldn't have said it was a secret. Oh — I certainly shouldn't have said it was illegal. Ah, it's too hot today.
74°
Surely higher than this no human thermostat is prepared to go. At this temperature, nuclear submarines dive deeper in search of peace and cool, dark water; alarm bells sound, stern men and women whip off their spectacles and cluster around their mimeograph readouts and make inarticulate gestures of concern and dismay; deer leap from high precipices to avoid the coming storm; birds fly abruptly out to sea, abandoning human habitations; cats whimper and slink under the house; laundry melts; staircases and banisters droop; clocks stop; clouds and children gather darkly on the horizon. You are running out of the final moments of grace. Turn back, and descend.
100+ degrees will be regular occurrences in most parts of the country by mid-century, with 105+ being regular late-century
The knock-on effects of this will be desertification of most of the more southern midwest and cali which will strain agriculture and we will finally deem it acceptable to cannibalize in situations where the victim is an uggo. This isn't taking into account the vicious hurricane seasons that will render the southeast an even bigger gaping hellhole of humidity and natural disasters
Eddy on
"and the morning stars I have seen
and the gengars who are guiding me" -- W.S. Merwin
The last chat closed before I could state how appalled I am at the temperatures some of y'all are refrigerating your living spaces too.
Reminds me of reading reviews on AC units and finding a ton that were basically "This unit won't consistently bring the temperature in my apartment down to 16C in the middle of the summer heat waves. 2 stars." and I'm like "What the fuck are you doing?"
Room Temperatures, In Order Of Moral Laxity
60°
Permissable for brief bursts in extreme circumstances, for example upon arriving home after forgetting to leave the windows open on a summer day so the entire living room has a whole pent-up afternoon’s worth of stale sun-heat that needs to be ironed out before you can even imagine doing the dishes. Think of it like one of those old-fashioned skin-care rules, like how your grandmother recommends ending a shower with a few seconds of ice-cold water to brace your pores. It’s not the same as letting the shower run cold the entire time – you’ve still got plenty of comfort remaining to you – but it’s invigorating, ennobling, opens up the sinuses and the heart to new possibilities. A temperature you could finally solve a murder mystery by.
61°
Unnecessary. Fit perhaps for stern women and men who live alone and combat viruses or study electrons, but not for the likes of you. It’s not a mark against you, mind; you shouldn’t force yourself to work up to such a temperature any more than you should feel guilty for not inventing the stratoscope or being Copernicus. Copernicus was Copernicus, and no one holds it against you for not being Copernicus first.
62°
An interesting, complicated temperature. Not for everyday use, but perhaps a soothing background for profound emotional work like consolidating grief or getting one of those really painful massages that promise to only start feeling good a day or two afterwards.
63°
A touch of reserve, even austerity. You eat small, simple meals, usually of herring and rye, and sleep lightly if at all. You are not opposed to pleasure, but you parcel it out with prudence and careful husbanding.
64°
At this temperature, every home becomes a church and all words a prayer and a love-offering to a thoughtful God. A temperature that consecrates even the simplest and most humble of actions: “As Brother Lawrence had found such an advantage in walking in the presence of God, it was natural for him to recommend it earnestly to others. More strikingly, his example was a stronger inducement than any arguments he could propose. His very countenance was edifying with such a sweet and calm devotion appearing that he could not but affect the beholders.
It was observed, that in the greatest hurry of business in the kitchen, he still preserved his recollection and heavenly-mindedness. He was never hasty nor loitering, but did each thing in its season with an even uninterrupted composure and tranquillity of spirit. ‘The time of business,’ said he, ‘does not with me differ from the time of prayer. In the noise and clutter of my kitchen, while several persons are at the same time calling for different things, I possess God in as great tranquillity as if I were upon my knees at the Blessed Supper.’”
65°
Perfectly reasonable. Fit for all purposes – strengthens a failing constitution, cheers a troubled spirit, soothes the jangled nerves, fills the heart with goodwill.
66°
Perfectly reasonable.
67°
Perfectly reasonable.
68°
Perfectly reasonable.
69°
A compromise for cowards. The equivalent of lighting a cigarette when one has promised a good woman in one’s letters to quit the nasty habit forever, smoking it until one is sick, then lying to her. A failure of decency, of nerve, of backbone, of resolution, and one that gives the sinner no pleasure in committing the offense, thereby being damnable twice over.
70°
Scarcely bearable, particularly for sleep; useful for jolting the house into a baseline of comfort during an ice storm, perhaps, but surely never intended for extended use. More long-range studies are needed if scientists are ever to offer an official judgment on the salutary effects of 70°on the human body over a period of years. Possible side effects include impatience, suspicion, paranoia, fitful sheet-kicking, colic, lovers’ quarrels, bed-humidity, and moral impairment.
71°
An act of aggression, to drive someone you no longer cherish out-of-doors. How sharper than a serpent’s tooth, etc.
72°
Useful for rehearsing a Tennessee Williams’ play if one’s cast seems unable to really find their characters, staring murderously at a fly on the wall, detoxing, planning a heist, arguing with a sequestered jury, having 1950s-era-zeitgeist-collapsing passionate sex, being a detective, etc.
73°
I can't divulge information about that customer's secret, illegal account. Oh — I shouldn't have said he was a customer. Oh — I shouldn't have said it was a secret. Oh — I certainly shouldn't have said it was illegal. Ah, it's too hot today.
74°
Surely higher than this no human thermostat is prepared to go. At this temperature, nuclear submarines dive deeper in search of peace and cool, dark water; alarm bells sound, stern men and women whip off their spectacles and cluster around their mimeograph readouts and make inarticulate gestures of concern and dismay; deer leap from high precipices to avoid the coming storm; birds fly abruptly out to sea, abandoning human habitations; cats whimper and slink under the house; laundry melts; staircases and banisters droop; clocks stop; clouds and children gather darkly on the horizon. You are running out of the final moments of grace. Turn back, and descend.
The last chat closed before I could state how appalled I am at the temperatures some of y'all are refrigerating your living spaces too.
Reminds me of reading reviews on AC units and finding a ton that were basically "This unit won't consistently bring the temperature in my apartment down to 16C in the middle of the summer heat waves. 2 stars." and I'm like "What the fuck are you doing?"
Room Temperatures, In Order Of Moral Laxity
60°
Permissable for brief bursts in extreme circumstances, for example upon arriving home after forgetting to leave the windows open on a summer day so the entire living room has a whole pent-up afternoon’s worth of stale sun-heat that needs to be ironed out before you can even imagine doing the dishes. Think of it like one of those old-fashioned skin-care rules, like how your grandmother recommends ending a shower with a few seconds of ice-cold water to brace your pores. It’s not the same as letting the shower run cold the entire time – you’ve still got plenty of comfort remaining to you – but it’s invigorating, ennobling, opens up the sinuses and the heart to new possibilities. A temperature you could finally solve a murder mystery by.
61°
Unnecessary. Fit perhaps for stern women and men who live alone and combat viruses or study electrons, but not for the likes of you. It’s not a mark against you, mind; you shouldn’t force yourself to work up to such a temperature any more than you should feel guilty for not inventing the stratoscope or being Copernicus. Copernicus was Copernicus, and no one holds it against you for not being Copernicus first.
62°
An interesting, complicated temperature. Not for everyday use, but perhaps a soothing background for profound emotional work like consolidating grief or getting one of those really painful massages that promise to only start feeling good a day or two afterwards.
63°
A touch of reserve, even austerity. You eat small, simple meals, usually of herring and rye, and sleep lightly if at all. You are not opposed to pleasure, but you parcel it out with prudence and careful husbanding.
64°
At this temperature, every home becomes a church and all words a prayer and a love-offering to a thoughtful God. A temperature that consecrates even the simplest and most humble of actions: “As Brother Lawrence had found such an advantage in walking in the presence of God, it was natural for him to recommend it earnestly to others. More strikingly, his example was a stronger inducement than any arguments he could propose. His very countenance was edifying with such a sweet and calm devotion appearing that he could not but affect the beholders.
It was observed, that in the greatest hurry of business in the kitchen, he still preserved his recollection and heavenly-mindedness. He was never hasty nor loitering, but did each thing in its season with an even uninterrupted composure and tranquillity of spirit. ‘The time of business,’ said he, ‘does not with me differ from the time of prayer. In the noise and clutter of my kitchen, while several persons are at the same time calling for different things, I possess God in as great tranquillity as if I were upon my knees at the Blessed Supper.’”
65°
Perfectly reasonable. Fit for all purposes – strengthens a failing constitution, cheers a troubled spirit, soothes the jangled nerves, fills the heart with goodwill.
66°
Perfectly reasonable.
67°
Perfectly reasonable.
68°
Perfectly reasonable.
69°
A compromise for cowards. The equivalent of lighting a cigarette when one has promised a good woman in one’s letters to quit the nasty habit forever, smoking it until one is sick, then lying to her. A failure of decency, of nerve, of backbone, of resolution, and one that gives the sinner no pleasure in committing the offense, thereby being damnable twice over.
70°
Scarcely bearable, particularly for sleep; useful for jolting the house into a baseline of comfort during an ice storm, perhaps, but surely never intended for extended use. More long-range studies are needed if scientists are ever to offer an official judgment on the salutary effects of 70°on the human body over a period of years. Possible side effects include impatience, suspicion, paranoia, fitful sheet-kicking, colic, lovers’ quarrels, bed-humidity, and moral impairment.
71°
An act of aggression, to drive someone you no longer cherish out-of-doors. How sharper than a serpent’s tooth, etc.
72°
Useful for rehearsing a Tennessee Williams’ play if one’s cast seems unable to really find their characters, staring murderously at a fly on the wall, detoxing, planning a heist, arguing with a sequestered jury, having 1950s-era-zeitgeist-collapsing passionate sex, being a detective, etc.
73°
I can't divulge information about that customer's secret, illegal account. Oh — I shouldn't have said he was a customer. Oh — I shouldn't have said it was a secret. Oh — I certainly shouldn't have said it was illegal. Ah, it's too hot today.
74°
Surely higher than this no human thermostat is prepared to go. At this temperature, nuclear submarines dive deeper in search of peace and cool, dark water; alarm bells sound, stern men and women whip off their spectacles and cluster around their mimeograph readouts and make inarticulate gestures of concern and dismay; deer leap from high precipices to avoid the coming storm; birds fly abruptly out to sea, abandoning human habitations; cats whimper and slink under the house; laundry melts; staircases and banisters droop; clocks stop; clouds and children gather darkly on the horizon. You are running out of the final moments of grace. Turn back, and descend.
The Michigander in me is like, is this heating or cooling?
I keep a 1400sqft super-insulated ranch cooled to 72, which seems a gigantic luxury and is freezing near heating/cooling outlets . I don't know how my A/C unit can deliver something reliably colder in 80+ degree weather.
However I also keep the house at like 68 in Winter?
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Some days Blue wonders why anyone ever bothered making numbers so small; other days she supposes even infinity needs to start somewhere.
Presumably by the time humans accept the idea of sleeping pods instead of fuck-the-Earth-I-got-mine McMansions with fuck-the-Earth-I-got-mine lawns we'll be so malnourished that the tallest and healthiest of us will be 5'5"
Eddy on
"and the morning stars I have seen
and the gengars who are guiding me" -- W.S. Merwin
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SummaryJudgmentGrab the hottest iron you can find, stride in the Tower’s front doorRegistered Userregular
edited July 2019
I am tone-deaf.
Really though I'm all about a standard axiom that says heat is worse then cold
You can always put on more layers! If you are equipped properly, you will not be cold
If you are too hot, you will just be miserable
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Some days Blue wonders why anyone ever bothered making numbers so small; other days she supposes even infinity needs to start somewhere.
Presumably by the time humans accept the idea of sleeping pods instead of fuck-the-Earth-I-got-mine McMansions with fuck-the-Earth-I-got-mine lawns we'll be so malnourished that the tallest and healthiest of us will be 5'5"
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Socialization through video screens
Fully provides a breathable environment sealed from the noxious outside
A convenient casket upon your death
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There’s not really shortage of space though?
I mean like before arcology towers of sleeping pods let’s evaluate spending anything at all on high speed train infrastructure. I know people who commute between cities in the same time people commute from suburbs into this city.
I mean like before arcology towers of sleeping pods let’s evaluate spending anything at all on high speed train infrastructure. I know people who commute between cities in the same time people commute from suburbs into this city.
Shortage of space isn't the issue; it's the urban planning and usage of that space
Inefficient (sub-)urban planning contributes massively to CO2 emissions, infrastructural inefficiency about water, energy, etc. It's all waste of vital resources that we will never have again. Clean freshwater will mostly be gone in our kid's lifetimes, if not ours. The easiest way to slow that inevitable loss of basic necessities is to change our living and consumption habits to prepare for it - and that means reducing transit, aggregating populations, etc
Eddy on
"and the morning stars I have seen
and the gengars who are guiding me" -- W.S. Merwin
I mean like before arcology towers of sleeping pods let’s evaluate spending anything at all on high speed train infrastructure. I know people who commute between cities in the same time people commute from suburbs into this city.
Shortage of space isn't the issue; it's the urban planning and usage of that space
Inefficient urban planning contributes massively to CO2 emissions, infrastructural inefficiency about water, energy, etc. It's all waste of vital resources that we will never have again. Clean freshwater will mostly be gone in our kid's lifetimes, if not ours.
I don’t see how pods help in that regard though, seems it would just cram exponentially more people into an urban location.
We could also suck less wrt to those points, but I can see how it’ll end up having to be an emergency solution like always.
I mean like before arcology towers of sleeping pods let’s evaluate spending anything at all on high speed train infrastructure. I know people who commute between cities in the same time people commute from suburbs into this city.
Shortage of space isn't the issue; it's the urban planning and usage of that space
Inefficient urban planning contributes massively to CO2 emissions, infrastructural inefficiency about water, energy, etc. It's all waste of vital resources that we will never have again. Clean freshwater will mostly be gone in our kid's lifetimes, if not ours.
I don’t see how pods help in that regard though, seems it would just cram exponentially more people into an urban location.
We could also suck less wrt to those points, but I can see how it’ll end up having to be an emergency solution like always.
Commuting is wasteful - of course between cities but especially from suburbs to urban areas. The idea is to have mixed-use (commercial/residential) zoning to eliminate this as much as possible, but the main point is to aggregate dwindling resources such as water/energy/food into as efficient of a distribution center as possible. Logistics is heavily wasteful - deliveries, shipments, etc in 18-wheeler trucks and planes? We need to reframe the entire idea of these supply chains that serve extremely inefficiently planned populations
"and the morning stars I have seen
and the gengars who are guiding me" -- W.S. Merwin
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SummaryJudgmentGrab the hottest iron you can find, stride in the Tower’s front doorRegistered Userregular
edited July 2019
I am tone-deaf.
How tenable is it to move everyone from the country into urban areas
Are there jobs for everyone there? They're not all carrying Comp Sci BA's, either.
Then they're going to...commute back out to the country, to go work at existing blue collar industrial centers, or in the small service and retail locations servicing those?
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Some days Blue wonders why anyone ever bothered making numbers so small; other days she supposes even infinity needs to start somewhere.
I mean like before arcology towers of sleeping pods let’s evaluate spending anything at all on high speed train infrastructure. I know people who commute between cities in the same time people commute from suburbs into this city.
Shortage of space isn't the issue; it's the urban planning and usage of that space
Inefficient urban planning contributes massively to CO2 emissions, infrastructural inefficiency about water, energy, etc. It's all waste of vital resources that we will never have again. Clean freshwater will mostly be gone in our kid's lifetimes, if not ours.
I don’t see how pods help in that regard though, seems it would just cram exponentially more people into an urban location.
We could also suck less wrt to those points, but I can see how it’ll end up having to be an emergency solution like always.
Commuting is wasteful - of course between cities but especially from suburbs to urban areas. The idea is to have mixed-use (commercial/residential) zoning to eliminate this as much as possible, but the main point is to aggregate dwindling resources such as water/energy/food into as efficient of a distribution center as possible. Logistics is heavily wasteful - deliveries, shipments, etc in 18-wheeler trucks and planes? We need to reframe the entire idea of these supply chains that serve extremely inefficiently planned populations
Do you mean commuting in general or mostly cars? I figured busses but especially electric trains were pretty good.
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SummaryJudgmentGrab the hottest iron you can find, stride in the Tower’s front doorRegistered Userregular
How tenable is it to move everyone from the country into urban areas
Are there jobs for everyone there? They're not all carrying Comp Sci BA's, either.
I'm pretty sure the scant few people we need to be on farms aren't gonna be happy they got pulled into the city
I'm sure they wouldn't, but like you said, scant few people
What there are a lot of though - I'd wager the vast majority of the people thought of as "rural" in these discussions - are blue collar rural industrial workers or supervisors who cannot be readily imported into a city. Dart Container is not going to automagically move its factory.
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We got him on tape admitting to the gerrymandering, boys
give em the clamps
Some kind of small community - commune for short, perhaps
and the gengars who are guiding me" -- W.S. Merwin
That looks exactly like when a huge dog that does not give a shit meets a tiny, aggressive dog.
Reminds me of reading reviews on AC units and finding a ton that were basically "This unit won't consistently bring the temperature in my apartment down to 16C in the middle of the summer heat waves. 2 stars." and I'm like "What the fuck are you doing?"
and the gengars who are guiding me" -- W.S. Merwin
So cozy!
100+ degrees will be regular occurrences in most parts of the country by mid-century, with 105+ being regular late-century
The knock-on effects of this will be desertification of most of the more southern midwest and cali which will strain agriculture and we will finally deem it acceptable to cannibalize in situations where the victim is an uggo. This isn't taking into account the vicious hurricane seasons that will render the southeast an even bigger gaping hellhole of humidity and natural disasters
and the gengars who are guiding me" -- W.S. Merwin
that's kinda spacious for a sleeping pod.
The best part of that was that it was totally plausible
Like, maybe everyone had a different point in the article where they ran out of cable to span their suspension of disbelief
But then someone also might not have, it wasn't so far!
This is madness in the summer. Like, 21C is the minimum you should be going down when it's high 20s or more outside.
The Michigander in me is like, is this heating or cooling?
I keep a 1400sqft super-insulated ranch cooled to 72, which seems a gigantic luxury and is freezing near heating/cooling outlets . I don't know how my A/C unit can deliver something reliably colder in 80+ degree weather.
However I also keep the house at like 68 in Winter?
and the gengars who are guiding me" -- W.S. Merwin
You can always put on more layers! If you are equipped properly, you will not be cold
If you are too hot, you will just be miserable
Rest space
Work space
Socialization through video screens
Fully provides a breathable environment sealed from the noxious outside
A convenient casket upon your death
I mean like before arcology towers of sleeping pods let’s evaluate spending anything at all on high speed train infrastructure. I know people who commute between cities in the same time people commute from suburbs into this city.
Shortage of space isn't the issue; it's the urban planning and usage of that space
Inefficient (sub-)urban planning contributes massively to CO2 emissions, infrastructural inefficiency about water, energy, etc. It's all waste of vital resources that we will never have again. Clean freshwater will mostly be gone in our kid's lifetimes, if not ours. The easiest way to slow that inevitable loss of basic necessities is to change our living and consumption habits to prepare for it - and that means reducing transit, aggregating populations, etc
and the gengars who are guiding me" -- W.S. Merwin
I don’t see how pods help in that regard though, seems it would just cram exponentially more people into an urban location.
We could also suck less wrt to those points, but I can see how it’ll end up having to be an emergency solution like always.
Heat just makes me angry and stupid. Villages will be crushed until I find shade.
I would require a toilet though or have to wear cyberpunk diapers at all times.
Nature is only quiet because we killed everything.
Happily take loud nature over my upstairs neighbor dropping his weights and blasting his subwoofer at 3am
Never again
Commuting is wasteful - of course between cities but especially from suburbs to urban areas. The idea is to have mixed-use (commercial/residential) zoning to eliminate this as much as possible, but the main point is to aggregate dwindling resources such as water/energy/food into as efficient of a distribution center as possible. Logistics is heavily wasteful - deliveries, shipments, etc in 18-wheeler trucks and planes? We need to reframe the entire idea of these supply chains that serve extremely inefficiently planned populations
and the gengars who are guiding me" -- W.S. Merwin
Are there jobs for everyone there? They're not all carrying Comp Sci BA's, either.
Then they're going to...commute back out to the country, to go work at existing blue collar industrial centers, or in the small service and retail locations servicing those?
I'm pretty sure the scant few people we need to be on farms aren't gonna be happy they got pulled into the city
Do you mean commuting in general or mostly cars? I figured busses but especially electric trains were pretty good.
I'm sure they wouldn't, but like you said, scant few people
What there are a lot of though - I'd wager the vast majority of the people thought of as "rural" in these discussions - are blue collar rural industrial workers or supervisors who cannot be readily imported into a city. Dart Container is not going to automagically move its factory.