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The [Mueller] Testimony
silence1186
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Mods, I waited a bit because I thought a thread was forthcoming, hopefully this serves your purposes.
It's currently live:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8db5lriRfwM
Basically every major news outlet has a stream on Youtube.
Talk about the testimony and its connections to the Mueller investigation into the 2016 Election and its fallout.
If you make a comment based on the live testimony, please include context so people reading it the next day will understand what was being discussed at the time of posting.
It's currently live:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8db5lriRfwMBasically every major news outlet has a stream on Youtube.
Talk about the testimony and its connections to the Mueller investigation into the 2016 Election and its fallout.
If you make a comment based on the live testimony, please include context so people reading it the next day will understand what was being discussed at the time of posting.
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Did you exonerate the President?
No
Was the president guilty?
No
What the FUCK
Collins railroaded him and Mueller did a shit job.
I think the key is in question number one, they didn't charge and refuse to comment on culpability until after he is no longer president.
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No because guilty in the legal system is when you are convicted.
No matter what, our system still assumes innocence even if there is overwhelming evidence till a conviction in a court or a plead of guilty occurs.
Edit: The DoJ does not determine guilt. They are part of the executive branch, the judicial branch and the courts determine guilt.
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He would do better if he could speak like a normal person. But his dedication to the rules of a broken system are undermining his ability to help the public understand what is going on.
He's frustratingly doddering.
He knows what he is doing which is adding nothing to the proceedings
Mueller: “That is correct.”
Lee: “Does your report state that there is sufficient factual and legal basis for further investigation of possible obstruction of justice by the president?”
Mueller: “Yes.”
Well. That’s pretty damning already.
The Dems seem to have no grasp of the situation either and so are not prepared to basically coach him into saying what they need him to say.
Someone else chasing that job is Nunes.
I think they were hoping that Mueller would come in and actually speak outside of the boundaries he's drawn for himself.
Why they might have thought this I do not know, but they should all be doing what Nadler did which is a bunch of "yes" and "no" questions. Which Mueller still somehow managed to muddle up but is still better than basically everything else I've seen so far.
That’s my worry too. One of the biggest things people lose as they age is the ability to quickly adapt in the moment. Neither mueller nor the Dems on the committee seem capable of adapting on the fly.
I am increasingly worried.
It's worth noting that we still haven't seen the full report and neither has congress. I bet there's something pretty damming hidden in the redacted portions of the report.
I should point out that I've been following this whole thing from the start, and my original post was mostly rhetorical frustration. Repetition of what the issue everyone has had, which is "Schrodinger's Assessment fucking sucks."
Further edit: mod guidance noted and will comply moving forward, apologies for the hassle
https://mobile.twitter.com/NewsHour/status/1154016307509178373
There is no prize for the quickest reaction to something being said.
Choose Your Own Chat 1 Choose Your Own Chat 2 Choose Your Own Chat 3
Republican: "Lets talk about the Steele Dossier and how you, for some reason don't talk about it"
"Outside my purview" x5
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Mueller: “That’s correct.”
Cohen: “Did the president attempt to get Sessions to unrecuse himself on multiple occasions?”
Mueller: “Yes.”
Sensenbrenner: “Since you decided you could not prosecute the president under OLC opinion, why did this investigation continue?”
Mueller: “The OLC opinion itself says you can continue the investigation even if you are not going to indict the president.”
Johnson: “Did president Trump direct White House counsel Don McGahn to fire you as special counsel mid investigation?”
Mueller: “Yes.”
Well. That last one especially is a doozy.
"In dramatic testimony, Mueller says he did not exonerate Trump."
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-mueller-idUSKCN1UJ0DF
Barring any further "bombshells," I imagine this is going to be the top-level reaction from basically every news source save Fox.
New York magazine has taken the same tack.
Let’s hope that the media continues this way. Otherwise we are screwed.