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[WoW Classic] launches Aug 27 <Sixteen Daggers> Alliance PVE -> Pagle

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  • RT800RT800 Registered User regular
    I'm trying to remember how useful the Tailoring profession was end-game in Classic.

    Obviously it's good for making bags, but I can't remember if there was anything good pre-raid that you couldn't just find off a dungeon drop.

  • The Cow KingThe Cow King Walls of Jakiro Registered User regular
    Or warlock to play doomguard roulette

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  • Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver Registered User, ClubPA regular
    RT800 wrote: »
    I'm trying to remember how useful the Tailoring profession was end-game in Classic.

    Obviously it's good for making bags, but I can't remember if there was anything good pre-raid that you couldn't just find off a dungeon drop.

    You could make FR gear for your guild

    And bags

    and FR gear

    And bags!

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  • MadicanMadican No face Registered User regular
    Oh yeah, all of you going Alliance for the first time, be wary in Westfall. There's a particular mob there that had the highest kill rate of players in Classic and it's not even elite.

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  • BahamutZEROBahamutZERO Registered User regular
    you can get fully kitted out in dungeon drops, but getting the things to drop is the hard part. Crafted gear was useful for filling holes where you don't get drops while leveling at least.

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  • PinfeldorfPinfeldorf Realtor Santa ClaritaRegistered User regular
    The best robes in the game pre-BWL are crafted.

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  • Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver Registered User, ClubPA regular
    I think post BWL warriors do the best damage of the classes because of just how much they scale to their gear.

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  • Lord_AsmodeusLord_Asmodeus goeticSobriquet: Here is your magical cryptic riddle-tumour: I AM A TIME MACHINERegistered User regular
    edited August 12
    Madican wrote: »
    I'm curious why all of the PA classic guilds seem to be Alliance so far.

    PvE is bigger than PvP, plus people have had enough time to figure out that actually Alliance racials are pretty fantastic

    Do... do people not play Horde PvE?

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  • Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver Registered User, ClubPA regular
    I mean I liked playing Horde in Classic

    But I also played it at my own pace and didn't really care about balance stuff too much.
    Madican wrote: »
    I'm curious why all of the PA classic guilds seem to be Alliance so far.

    PvE is bigger than PvP, plus people have had enough time to figure out that actually Alliance racials are pretty fantastic

    Do... do people not play Horde PvE?

    Even throwing aside the absurdity that is human melee dps, BoK, Blessing of Salvation, and cleanse are absolutely ridiculous compared to what shamans bring to the table.

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  • BahamutZEROBahamutZERO Registered User regular
    alliance have better pve racials I think is the connecting thought there

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  • JasconiusJasconius sword criminal mad onlineRegistered User regular
    I'm curious why all of the PA classic guilds seem to be Alliance so far.

    can't speak for the other PA groups, but for me, the bias toward alliance is generally...

    - The cities look nicer, are better organized, easier to travail, and just generally GOOD
    - On average, the alliance races, in my opinion, are better modeled and characterized, on almost every dimension. They more closely evoke the WC3 themes they are based on.
    - They have a significantly more pleasant and varied early game experience that helps me stay engaged (holy shit the Barrens sucks so bad)
    - City proximity to well over half the end game content

    In total it's 80% aesthetic 15% practical and 5% gameplay....

    So much Horde stuff just looks terrible in 1.x and I don't want to look at it

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  • Lord_AsmodeusLord_Asmodeus goeticSobriquet: Here is your magical cryptic riddle-tumour: I AM A TIME MACHINERegistered User regular
    I guess? I suppose the balancing never made much of a difference to me on the whole since I was pretty casual.

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  • BahamutZEROBahamutZERO Registered User regular
    edited August 12
    the origin of the ancient alliance dev bias meme is that they spent 4x as much effort on the alliance because they thought they could swing around and do that with the horde afterwards and then whoops it's launch day

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  • The Cow KingThe Cow King Walls of Jakiro Registered User regular
    It's funny to cause the game should be easier cause were less dumb

    People still min max anyways

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  • ThawmusThawmus Registered User regular
    I can say from putting about 14 hours into the stress test over the weekend that the biggest surprise with Classic is how many warts don't exist, rather than how many warts there are. Like, it's still WoW. It still plays like WoW. It's just a different WoW.

    I had a blast and I honestly didn't know what to expect.

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  • JasconiusJasconius sword criminal mad onlineRegistered User regular
    the origin of the ancient alliance dev bias meme is that they spent 4x as much effort on the alliance because they thought they could swing around and do that with the horde afterwards and then whoops it's launch day

    that was the meme, and I believe it. Exhibit A: the ridiculous charlie brown shirt pattern they used to crop out Undead's armor to expose their skeleton

    enjoy looking at that for 3 years!

    honestly the racials don't factor in for me at all. they do matter, but I don't play the game on any level where those will make the difference for me in my outcomes. i chose NE because I think I can do funny things with shadowmeld, but that's not... a motivating factor for being alliance

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  • Lord_AsmodeusLord_Asmodeus goeticSobriquet: Here is your magical cryptic riddle-tumour: I AM A TIME MACHINERegistered User regular
    Jasconius wrote: »
    I'm curious why all of the PA classic guilds seem to be Alliance so far.

    can't speak for the other PA groups, but for me, the bias toward alliance is generally...

    - The cities look nicer, are better organized, easier to travail, and just generally GOOD
    - On average, the alliance races, in my opinion, are better modeled and characterized, on almost every dimension. They more closely evoke the WC3 themes they are based on.
    - They have a significantly more pleasant and varied early game experience that helps me stay engaged (holy shit the Barrens sucks so bad)
    - City proximity to well over half the end game content

    In total it's 80% aesthetic 15% practical and 5% gameplay....

    So much Horde stuff just looks terrible in 1.x and I don't want to look at it

    I guess I never really noticed?

    I liked the Horde stuff on the whole, hell I liked the Barrens alright. I'll probably roll up another Troll Hunter to play solo on another PVE server.

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  • Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver Registered User, ClubPA regular
    the origin of the ancient alliance dev bias meme is that they spent 4x as much effort on the alliance because they thought they could swing around and do that with the horde afterwards and then whoops it's launch day

    Horde onyxia key quest was like

    "hey this dragon is messing shit up uh....go kill some dragons and come back to me, cool"

    Jailbreak for alliance, comparatively, is the longest most stupid quest with the best ending to it in almost all vanilla

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  • The Cow KingThe Cow King Walls of Jakiro Registered User regular
    The BG's favoured Ally's as well, least the bugs did

    I hate stormwind and ironforge cause I always afk run into the river and grates

    Anyone know if seam walkings in?

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  • ThawmusThawmus Registered User regular
    WC3 established the Barrens to be a huge goddamn area, and given that it's the only geography that WC3 really emphasized at all, they had to make it a huge goddamn area.

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  • Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver Registered User, ClubPA regular
    The one upside is that horde could kill the Ironforge leader by climbing up the geometry and going to old ironforge

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  • Lord_AsmodeusLord_Asmodeus goeticSobriquet: Here is your magical cryptic riddle-tumour: I AM A TIME MACHINERegistered User regular
    edited August 12
    I will say, and this isn't really a WoW classic thing but a Blizzard/WoW thing in general

    I'm still annoyed that female trolls look so different from male trolls (and I mean orcs and tauren also but for me, mostly trolls). I mean I don't even mean the face really, smaller tusks/less pointy facial features, fine but dammit, I want lanky, towering, stooped female trolls.

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  • RT800RT800 Registered User regular
    I liked the huge area of the Barrens and Stranglethorn Vale.

    I mean you can hardly feel like your character is lost in the jungle if you're always just minutes away from civilization.

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  • JasconiusJasconius sword criminal mad onlineRegistered User regular
    STV: good
    Barrens: bad

    the difference? roughly the same difference as driving on a highway in Norcal vs. driving on a highway in Kansas.

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  • Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver Registered User, ClubPA regular
    Jasconius wrote: »
    STV: good
    Barrens: bad

    the difference? roughly the same difference as driving on a highway in Norcal vs. driving on a highway in Kansas.

    where is mankirks wife

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  • BahamutZEROBahamutZERO Registered User regular
    Jasconius wrote: »
    STV: good
    Barrens: bad

    the difference? roughly the same difference as driving on a highway in Norcal vs. driving on a highway in Kansas.

    where is mankirks wife

    can someone hepl me where is mankirks wife 4 quest i looked all over and cant find her

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  • BrainleechBrainleech Registered User regular
    Jasconius wrote: »
    STV: good
    Barrens: bad

    the difference? roughly the same difference as driving on a highway in Norcal vs. driving on a highway in Kansas.

    where is mankirks wife

    can someone hepl me where is mankirks wife 4 quest i looked all over and cant find her

    Back in vanilla after a failed attack on the X roads someone left their body for months as a landmark to find her body. So it was easy to say it's the hut near Leonheart's body

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  • RT800RT800 Registered User regular
    edited August 12
    My favorite gag was when someone made a character named "MankriksWife", then died and deliberately left their body right in front of Mankrik.

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  • PinfeldorfPinfeldorf Realtor Santa ClaritaRegistered User regular
    Look if any of y'all poach my names I'm going to send you a sternly worded letter.

  • InfidelInfidel Heretic Registered User regular
    Pinfeldorf wrote: »
    Look if any of y'all poach my names I'm going to send you a sternly worded letter.

    Share them here quick so we can be sure not to accidentally take!

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  • ThawmusThawmus Registered User regular
    Pinfeldorf wrote: »
    Look if any of y'all poach my names I'm going to send you a sternly worded letter.

    I'll poach your names so that I can unpoach them for you later.

    As a service to you.

    That won't be free.

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  • BrainleechBrainleech Registered User regular
    RT800 wrote: »
    I'm trying to remember how useful the Tailoring profession was end-game in Classic.

    Obviously it's good for making bags, but I can't remember if there was anything good pre-raid that you couldn't just find off a dungeon drop.

    You could make FR gear for your guild

    And bags

    and FR gear

    And bags!

    I was one of the few people that could make the bottomless bag and the waiting list was long

  • BrainleechBrainleech Registered User regular
    I know what names I am going to save just there is that tiny fear though the names were random back then I have grown to love them

  • MadicanMadican No face Registered User regular
    RT800 wrote: »
    I'm trying to remember how useful the Tailoring profession was end-game in Classic.

    Obviously it's good for making bags, but I can't remember if there was anything good pre-raid that you couldn't just find off a dungeon drop.

    Cheapest source of endgame Enchanting materials by far. Eternal Essence and the rare shards were worth bank

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  • PinfeldorfPinfeldorf Realtor Santa ClaritaRegistered User regular
    I got the names Luigi, Chimichanga and Food. I wanted Bowser and Mario but either someone snaked them or they're not allowed, which would be odd, considering I have Bowser on live.

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  • ThawmusThawmus Registered User regular
    Yeah I tried naming my pet Starscream over the weekend and it wouldn't let me and I was sad

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  • EnigmedicEnigmedic Registered User regular
    Thawmus wrote: »
    I can say from putting about 14 hours into the stress test over the weekend that the biggest surprise with Classic is how many warts don't exist, rather than how many warts there are. Like, it's still WoW. It still plays like WoW. It's just a different WoW.

    I had a blast and I honestly didn't know what to expect.

    That was my experience. Even little things like going to the class trainer and being like oh snap rank 2 fireball?! Now were cooking. Getting a quest then being like “wait who tf an i looking for?” And having to actually read a quest. And then going out to find the objective instead of 12 arrows and a geographic area mapped out for it. Also i like being able to chat in general while leveling instead of it being completely solo.

    Like you said, its the same game, but different

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  • JasconiusJasconius sword criminal mad onlineRegistered User regular
    we just broke the 40 man mark on Pagle, our casual raiding outlook is looking up

    one minor detail, we have a hilarious over-abundance of healing, and we're light on DPS

    if you've been on the fence and want to be mainline DPS... we're hiring. Particularly in need of a couple of warlocks, fury warriors, and rogues

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  • ThawmusThawmus Registered User regular
    I cannot believe that we're talking about Classic and a shortage of Rogues at the same time.

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  • bowenbowen How you doin'? Registered User regular
    I still have a few people that are like 98% sure they're going to play and play DPS, one's a warlock I know that for sure.

    The other two might be dps warriors.

    Then there's a few others I'm unsure of, or if they'll play at all.

    Ladies.
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