FYI, there's a Bonus Play (Journey to the West) if you complete the Free Quest Town Hall Node. 4 battles. Battles 2-4 have break bars. And they provide the +Caster Bond Bonus that the story quests do.
As an aside: Saberlot, Caster Marie, and Tamamo is an absurdly good party.
FYI, there's a Bonus Play (Journey to the West) if you complete the Free Quest Town Hall Node. 4 battles. Battles 2-4 have break bars. And they provide the +Caster Bond Bonus that the story quests do.
As an aside: Saberlot, Caster Marie, and Tamamo is an absurdly good party.
Ooh, that sounds fun. Whenever I get around to skilling up Marie. And get more Tamamos on my friends list.
...it's awkward having basically everyone who wants to play with Tamamo and not Tamamo (the right one, anyways. Lancer Tamamo is very nice to have. Tamacat sits on the bench while Fran smacks things).
FYI, there's a Bonus Play (Journey to the West) if you complete the Free Quest Town Hall Node. 4 battles. Battles 2-4 have break bars. And they provide the +Caster Bond Bonus that the story quests do.
As an aside: Saberlot, Caster Marie, and Tamamo is an absurdly good party.
Ooh, that sounds fun. Whenever I get around to skilling up Marie. And get more Tamamos on my friends list.
...it's awkward having basically everyone who wants to play with Tamamo and not Tamamo (the right one, anyways. Lancer Tamamo is very nice to have. Tamacat sits on the bench while Fran smacks things).
It becomes way better once Marie gets her Bond CE. Before that she and Hanz are about tied at crit support... Hanz provides more but is made of paper while Caster Marie is impossible to kill outside of Dragons and Invulnerability Pierce. Post Bond CE it's Marie the whole way. This is not counting Sherlock though, who does provide the best party crit damage buff in his NP and can work a good support, but his skill list is far more selfish/offensive, will almost always be running an offensive CE, and will be sucking in stars to himself unlike the caster supports. People float Caster Gil, but he provides star gen buffs not crit buffs and is otherwise a generalist arts caster support (though a good one).
Same party with Li Shuwen (over Saberlot) and a CE change to a 2030 melted the Eyryale/Asterios fight. I love that lancer. He's not self-sufficient like Saberlot and very much needs support, but man does he just break through every defensive line and crit hard.
I would be a lot more depressed about Nero's singularity being largely considered one of the worst in the entire game if her event appearances weren't so fantastic.
Still a little depressed, though.
I like to think Nero makes up for a lackluster singularity by stealing the show everywhere else. She is one of the more consistently fun servants in her appearances, and her NP literally brings a stage with her.
In other news, playing through both Medusa Lancer's and Gorgon's interludes back-to-back reveals an amusing common thread through the character. Namely, no matter what form Medusa takes, no matter how aloof, deadly, or outright murderous Gorgon tries to present herself, her sisters are there to tease her mercilessly and she is basically powerless to stop it.
Also, I love that her snake hair has a mind of its own and seems to warm up to the protagonist independent of her. I thus claim this, linked earlier, as canon.
Okay, this is my ranking of story arcs released in NA up to this point:
Babylonia - I mean, duh. It's the longest one, it's epic, it has great cast, it has some good character development for characters, it has great music, it has Best Lucha Onee-San, it has Gramps being the most badass motherfucker that has ever walked the earth. What is not to like?
Solomon - the grand finale, which is mostly fanservice (by which I mean EVERYONE comes back to help you), but shit like this is super effective against me, so yeah, I love it.
Camelot - feels, feels everywhere. Also, it has Sanzang and Nitocris, which were among first golden Servants I've got in this game (during first 2 weeks of playing).
SERAPH - nice chemistry between characters, epic final, great soundtrack, and Suzuka is awesome.
Shimousa - aka giant Musashi interlude, which I don't mind, because she is great. It kinda loses its steam at the end, and some character motivations are not that well explored, but still, it had a really nice atmosphere and gave some screentime to Fuuma.
Shinjuku - Dandy Crime Grandpa is one of the best designs in the game. Salter and Jalter are also here, but I kinda got tired of their interactions - I love them both, but I think I prefer them independently of each other.
America - this was the point at which I could honestly say "yeah, I am enjoying this story", even though it still had its flaws.
Salem - great potential, but it was sadly wasted by the plot requiring characters to act like morons for the story to happen.
Orleans - it served its purpose, there were some highlights (mostly Amadeus), but in the end it was average at best.
Fuiyuki - the prologue. Same deal as with Orlans.
Agartha - just blergh. Story written with a sbutlety of a sledgehammer.
Septem - just bad, pointless story, but I can forgive it, because no one cared about the story at this point of FGO development.
London - ... this, meanwhile, I cannot forgive. It has something like 95 % of its cast being absolutely pointless, something like 4 main antagonists arriving one after another, and first meeting with Big Bad, which we only survive because OHOHOHOHOHOHO YOU ARE NOT EVEN WORTH KILLING. Fuck this noise, Okeanos proved that this game could be better, and London proved that some authors still did not care.
Yeah, but KnK isn't really as weirdly plot-critical as Prison Tower is. KnK is just your typical crossover event with a generic "Solomon gave Shuten DoujiMephisto whoever the villain was a Grail" plot and a surprise twist foreshadowing... Prison Tower. Shiki only ever shows up again in Solomon, I think?
On the other hand, Prison Tower serves as an emergency plot hole cover for London ("uh, he didn't let you leave, he actually secretly put a death curse on you when you looked in his eyes, yeah that'll work"), and gives Dantés an enduring dream-walking schtick that comes back in Shimousa and IIRC Lostbelt 2.
It's weird because I'm pretty sure there's no other event that's even remotely as relevant to the main plot? I hear the upcoming Christmas event serves as a coda for Babylonia, and I guess Onigashima's relevant in a roundabout way via Musashi's Trial Quest, but otherwise nothing comes close to Prison Tower in "should probably not be behind a paywall"-ness? (Even CCC and GUDAGUDA2 just tie up loose ends with Demon God Pillars, they don't actually come up again in the story.)
Events reference other events all the damn time, but it's pretty unusual for the main story to do it (probably because they're time-limited). Usually the best you get is vague stuff like Xuanzang making an oblique reference to Go West!!
Solomon basically declared every event canon though.
Hell Dantes shows up and solos one of the combined Pillars
Well, yeah. Events are extremely canon, although the sillier bits (usually post-story) should be taken with a grain of salt. Even then, though...
It's just that some events are important to the main story and others... aren't. If you missed Saber Wars, don't worry - you didn't miss anything important. If you missed Prison Tower, well, hope you look it up on YouTube or buy it when it comes to the Rare Prism shop?
They're all canon, it's just that they've got different importance. Musashi's Trial Quest is more important than Brynhildr's, GUDAGUDA2 is more important than 1, Septem's (sadly) more important than Shinjuku, etc.
It's dangerous to make things important if they're permanently missable, hence why anything really important (note: not the same as "good", sorry CCC) gets into the Rare Prism store.
Decided to say fuck it and went all in on Abigal instead of hoarding for Eresh. 450 sq (I've mostly just been logging in without actually playing for a while now) got me Karna (he's fine I guess, was my first SSR on JP server and carried me there), Orion (pls go away), NP4 Sheeba (this I like).... and, on my last roll, a spook Waver. 3 off banner SSRs plus joining the NP4 Waver gang had me hella tilted, so I ended up buying a pack.
Rolled Abby on the first paid roll, leaving me with a few 10 pulls to throw at Eresh, plus some vague feeling of disgust that gacha had managed to win again.
And I, since Shimousa, am in full "not rolling anything except for 2-3 tickets every few banners" mode.
My plan is to roll for GSSR at the New Year for Knights banner (I already have Lancer and Saber 5 stars, so I hope to get an Archer or Extra, but im choosing this one instead of Cavalry because it has less Servants that I would be definitely unhappy to get if I had bad luck), roll for Jalter during Counterfeit's rerun, and then probably try to get Moriarty if I have any savings left (and if I won't get any other archer from GSSR).
If my calculations are correct, after GSSR I should still have at the least 870 SQ and 70 tickets.
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First pull was two Snow Drops,
Second pull was a Party Time and a Snow Drop (and now I really want Christmas Atalanta)
Third Pull was a Snow Drop, a Party Time, a Helena, and Best Goddess Ereshkigal.
I did a couple more pulls as well, but nothing interesting came up other than some more xmas CEs.
Threw in 60 SQ, somehow managed to get Eresh but failed to get any event CEs whatsoever. (This comes after throwing a lot of quartz at Abby and getting zilch, mind you, so chances are that I'm just on-rate.)
Supposedly he was supposed to charge his NP to full at the end of Turn 1, activate it, then let you hit him before he countered and wiped out your team because that's how his NP works.
But he never did that for me and he died when I decided to just let BB unleash a 100% Buster crit with Hero Creation plus other buffs with her NP following after.
Mango's mainly an issue if you can't just BB him into oblivion, yeah. Avenger's neutral with every other non-Berserker servant, and 300k is a fair bit to chip through on neutral. Personally I ran BB+Tamamo+Waver and just went CCC into CCC into an arts crit that killed him and also charged a third CCC. NP gain for days. I think he was even stunned by Waver on turn 1 and never got to do anything?
I think the main thing is that people came in on the JP event with a half-assed event bonus team and got blown up. That's more than enough to clear the main story of any other holiday event, after all.
His NP is definitely A Problem as an NPC, though, which is a funny turnaround from his player-controlled mechanics. He'd be a good fit for a challenge quest if he had, like, three break bars.
Mango's mainly an issue if you can't just BB him into oblivion, yeah. Avenger's neutral with every other non-Berserker servant, and 300k is a fair bit to chip through on neutral. Personally I ran BB+Tamamo+Waver and just went CCC into CCC into an arts crit that killed him and also charged a third CCC. NP gain for days. I think he was even stunned by Waver on turn 1 and never got to do anything?
I think the main thing is that people came in on the JP event with a half-assed event bonus team and got blown up. That's more than enough to clear the main story of any other holiday event, after all.
His NP is definitely A Problem as an NPC, though, which is a funny turnaround from his player-controlled mechanics. He'd be a good fit for a challenge quest if he had, like, three break bars.
Yeah, that unfortunately caught me off guard. I had BB ready to go with Mash up front, ready to just faceroll this. The monster form caught me off guard but at first I figured it was just some Jekyll thing and now he'd just do extra damage or whatever. BB hit him hard but it wasn't quite enough to one-shot (I forget who I had on support) and we had him stunned, so I figured we'd still walk this. Mash had fired her NP and her first skill, what's the worst that could happen?
One turn later, it's down to Jaguar, an underleveled Jalter lily, and a level one Santera I stuck in there for bond points. I reiterate, once transformed he did that through the stun. A double stun, actually, because he apparently self-inflicted it as part of the NP and I blindly laid down an extra from BB before I noticed.
Thankfully, Jaguar is a champ and took him down the rest of the way, but it was still a nasty surprise.
Yeah, his NP is kind of useless for players because dealing back twice the damage he was dealt is only ever going to do, like, 20k at best. Usually a lot less.
On the other hand, if an NPC does 20k to your front line then you're pretty much toast. It's the AOE NP problem all over again, except this time he hits through every single defence that isn't Guts!
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Ooh, that sounds fun. Whenever I get around to skilling up Marie. And get more Tamamos on my friends list.
...it's awkward having basically everyone who wants to play with Tamamo and not Tamamo (the right one, anyways. Lancer Tamamo is very nice to have. Tamacat sits on the bench while Fran smacks things).
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It becomes way better once Marie gets her Bond CE. Before that she and Hanz are about tied at crit support... Hanz provides more but is made of paper while Caster Marie is impossible to kill outside of Dragons and Invulnerability Pierce. Post Bond CE it's Marie the whole way. This is not counting Sherlock though, who does provide the best party crit damage buff in his NP and can work a good support, but his skill list is far more selfish/offensive, will almost always be running an offensive CE, and will be sucking in stars to himself unlike the caster supports. People float Caster Gil, but he provides star gen buffs not crit buffs and is otherwise a generalist arts caster support (though a good one).
Same party with Li Shuwen (over Saberlot) and a CE change to a 2030 melted the Eyryale/Asterios fight. I love that lancer. He's not self-sufficient like Saberlot and very much needs support, but man does he just break through every defensive line and crit hard.
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I like to think Nero makes up for a lackluster singularity by stealing the show everywhere else. She is one of the more consistently fun servants in her appearances, and her NP literally brings a stage with her.
In other news, playing through both Medusa Lancer's and Gorgon's interludes back-to-back reveals an amusing common thread through the character. Namely, no matter what form Medusa takes, no matter how aloof, deadly, or outright murderous Gorgon tries to present herself, her sisters are there to tease her mercilessly and she is basically powerless to stop it.
Also, I love that her snake hair has a mind of its own and seems to warm up to the protagonist independent of her. I thus claim this, linked earlier, as canon.
...Which was limited, and now defunct. At least they'll eventually add it to the Rare Prism store?
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On the other hand, Prison Tower serves as an emergency plot hole cover for London ("uh, he didn't let you leave, he actually secretly put a death curse on you when you looked in his eyes, yeah that'll work"), and gives Dantés an enduring dream-walking schtick that comes back in Shimousa and IIRC Lostbelt 2.
It's weird because I'm pretty sure there's no other event that's even remotely as relevant to the main plot? I hear the upcoming Christmas event serves as a coda for Babylonia, and I guess Onigashima's relevant in a roundabout way via Musashi's Trial Quest, but otherwise nothing comes close to Prison Tower in "should probably not be behind a paywall"-ness? (Even CCC and GUDAGUDA2 just tie up loose ends with Demon God Pillars, they don't actually come up again in the story.)
Events reference other events all the damn time, but it's pretty unusual for the main story to do it (probably because they're time-limited). Usually the best you get is vague stuff like Xuanzang making an oblique reference to Go West!!
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And I know, that's why "mere" is in quotes. A human significantly more powerful than Goetia shows up and just does some mop up on the side.
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Well, yeah. Events are extremely canon, although the sillier bits (usually post-story) should be taken with a grain of salt. Even then, though...
It's just that some events are important to the main story and others... aren't. If you missed Saber Wars, don't worry - you didn't miss anything important. If you missed Prison Tower, well, hope you look it up on YouTube or buy it when it comes to the Rare Prism shop?
They're all canon, it's just that they've got different importance. Musashi's Trial Quest is more important than Brynhildr's, GUDAGUDA2 is more important than 1, Septem's (sadly) more important than Shinjuku, etc.
It's dangerous to make things important if they're permanently missable, hence why anything really important (note: not the same as "good", sorry CCC) gets into the Rare Prism store.
Rolled Abby on the first paid roll, leaving me with a few 10 pulls to throw at Eresh, plus some vague feeling of disgust that gacha had managed to win again.
My plan is to roll for GSSR at the New Year for Knights banner (I already have Lancer and Saber 5 stars, so I hope to get an Archer or Extra, but im choosing this one instead of Cavalry because it has less Servants that I would be definitely unhappy to get if I had bad luck), roll for Jalter during Counterfeit's rerun, and then probably try to get Moriarty if I have any savings left (and if I won't get any other archer from GSSR).
If my calculations are correct, after GSSR I should still have at the least 870 SQ and 70 tickets.
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37 Tickets...
Ticket 20 - Sheba NP1
Huzzah. Now let's see if I can't make her a dominant option instead of just a safe one vs using Berserkers...
Roll 1 - 4* CE, 4* CE
Roll 2 - 4* CE, 4* CE
Roll 3 -
4* CE, 4* CE, EMIYA (Assassin) NP2, Abigail NP1
...not who I wanted but uh sure okay definitely not turning down a roll like this. You're staying on Ascension 1 for sure, though.
Roll 4 - 4* CE, Vessel of the Saint CE, 4* CE
Roll 5 - Kscope, 4* CE, 4* CE
yeah okay fuck it, I'll just wait for welfare Shuten. Can MLB my first Kscope finally, at least.
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Literally pulled a Casgil in every roll except for one, guess he really wanted to upgrade his NP.
Second pull was a Party Time and a Snow Drop (and now I really want Christmas Atalanta)
Third Pull was a Snow Drop, a Party Time, a Helena, and Best Goddess Ereshkigal.
I did a couple more pulls as well, but nothing interesting came up other than some more xmas CEs.
You can find an NA Christmas 2019 guide here.
I hope something of interest goes up on JP soon, since I've got a pretty significant hoard to spend over there.
MLB 4* CE, MLB 3* CE, +1 Ana. No Eresh. No 5* CE. Oh well. Could be worse.
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I guess that's it for me, as I want to continue saving for January. If Eresh likes me so much, she is free to come with GSSR.
edit- We have a guide for Christmas!
NP for 270k, overkill crit for 60k, overkill crit for 60k, gratuitous extra...goodbye angry man.
And as tax, another guide for Christmas:
https://www.kscopedia.net/christmas-2019/
But he never did that for me and he died when I decided to just let BB unleash a 100% Buster crit with Hero Creation plus other buffs with her NP following after.
I think the main thing is that people came in on the JP event with a half-assed event bonus team and got blown up. That's more than enough to clear the main story of any other holiday event, after all.
His NP is definitely A Problem as an NPC, though, which is a funny turnaround from his player-controlled mechanics. He'd be a good fit for a challenge quest if he had, like, three break bars.
Yeah, that unfortunately caught me off guard. I had BB ready to go with Mash up front, ready to just faceroll this. The monster form caught me off guard but at first I figured it was just some Jekyll thing and now he'd just do extra damage or whatever. BB hit him hard but it wasn't quite enough to one-shot (I forget who I had on support) and we had him stunned, so I figured we'd still walk this. Mash had fired her NP and her first skill, what's the worst that could happen?
One turn later, it's down to Jaguar, an underleveled Jalter lily, and a level one Santera I stuck in there for bond points. I reiterate, once transformed he did that through the stun. A double stun, actually, because he apparently self-inflicted it as part of the NP and I blindly laid down an extra from BB before I noticed.
Thankfully, Jaguar is a champ and took him down the rest of the way, but it was still a nasty surprise.
On the other hand, if an NPC does 20k to your front line then you're pretty much toast. It's the AOE NP problem all over again, except this time he hits through every single defence that isn't Guts!