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  • BrainleechBrainleech 機知に富んだコメントはここにあります Registered User regular
    KetBra wrote: »
    Brainleech wrote: »
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    If chaos gets primaris marines it'll be something they stole. You can convert old marines with a high fatality rate so

    Bile has figured out how to grow new marines and the various organs needed for them I know that was a lore point from about 15+ years ago in the CSM codex of that era

    I think Crawl figured out how to block the mental reasons of why they fall to chaos or something

    It'll turn out he stole geneseed from the Grey Knights, which is to say the Emperor.

    I think he is using the gene seed tithe to build the primaris but I think this is how he got the traitor stock since they had the codes for that somewhere....
    Since in the space marine book and the primaris one it mentions he only knows how to make half of the the Immortis Gland which was one of the parts for the primarichs so that may be the reason

    Because everyone knows it's impossible for a Primarch to fall to chaos

    He has half of it so I wonder what he made for the other half

  • MazzyxMazzyx Comedy Gold Registered User regular
    Let's not forget that Bile also basically a legion or more worth of geneseed that is untainted from the Horus Heresy.

    Still curious where that line will ever go.

    The EC already were largest legion though mostly not ordered around anyone since Fulgrim is off having snake orgies. But basically if they wanted there can be full legions worth of untainted perfect EC flooding out of the Eye.

    Bile still is the best apothecary out there and still can do that job flawlessly.

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  • KhraulKhraul Registered User regular
    edited November 4
    Weren't the word bearers the biggest traitor legion?

    They ramped up recruitment pre-calth after Lorgar had his vision quest with a lord of change.

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  • MazzyxMazzyx Comedy Gold Registered User regular
    edited November 4
    Khraul wrote: »
    Weren't the word bearers the biggest traitor legion?

    They ramped up recruitment pre-calth after Lorgar had his vision quest with a lord of change.

    They got killed a lot. At least from my understanding. The EC were one of the smaller ones but got out nearly untouched.

    But broke up into pieces pretty fast.

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  • Styrofoam SammichStyrofoam Sammich WANT. 5386-8443-8937Registered User regular
    Mazzyx wrote: »
    Khraul wrote: »
    Weren't the word bearers the biggest traitor legion?

    They ramped up recruitment pre-calth after Lorgar had his vision quest with a lord of change.

    They got killed a lot. At least from my understanding. The EC were one of the smaller ones but got out nearly untouched.

    But broke up into pieces pretty fast.

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  • Golden YakGolden Yak Burnished Bovine The PIT, level 26Registered User regular
    Mazzyx wrote: »
    Khraul wrote: »
    Weren't the word bearers the biggest traitor legion?

    They ramped up recruitment pre-calth after Lorgar had his vision quest with a lord of change.

    They got killed a lot. At least from my understanding. The EC were one of the smaller ones but got out nearly untouched.

    But broke up into pieces pretty fast.

    They spent most of the Siege of Terra attacking the civilian populace instead of the Imperial Palace, I remember that bit from some of the earliest lore. Gonna be pretty grim when the book series gets to that part.

    I'm definitely looking forwards to what Bile gets up to in this brave new era of the story roaring forwards more than ever before. Bile cloned flawless versions of Ferrus Manus, all the elements necessary to well and truly bring him back are there, and maybe other 'dead' primarchs too (besides Horus, he's history for sure). Just gotta find the right moment.

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  • BrainleechBrainleech 機知に富んだコメントはここにあります Registered User regular
    Yeah in the clonelord book it talks about the flawless clone of Ferrus Manus but says nothing of what happens to it at the end

  • MazzyxMazzyx Comedy Gold Registered User regular
    Golden Yak wrote: »
    Mazzyx wrote: »
    Khraul wrote: »
    Weren't the word bearers the biggest traitor legion?

    They ramped up recruitment pre-calth after Lorgar had his vision quest with a lord of change.

    They got killed a lot. At least from my understanding. The EC were one of the smaller ones but got out nearly untouched.

    But broke up into pieces pretty fast.

    They spent most of the Siege of Terra attacking the civilian populace instead of the Imperial Palace, I remember that bit from some of the earliest lore. Gonna be pretty grim when the book series gets to that part.

    I'm definitely looking forwards to what Bile gets up to in this brave new era of the story roaring forwards more than ever before. Bile cloned flawless versions of Ferrus Manus, all the elements necessary to well and truly bring him back are there, and maybe other 'dead' primarchs too (besides Horus, he's history for sure). Just gotta find the right moment.

    Spoilers from Bile's books and the Black Legion books
    He has been able to make a perfect replica of Horus but it had no soul since Horus's soul was burned out of existence by the Emperor. He also has made a perfect pre-fall version of Fulgrim who has Fulgrim's memories and abilities up to a point who he traded to the Necron zoo keeper for the lost tithe which is like 100,000+ marines worth of geneseed for the EC which is all untainted as if it was straight from the pre-Heresy period.

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  • MazzyxMazzyx Comedy Gold Registered User regular
    Today's Psychic Awakening story has a lovely flavor of Khorne.

    https://www.warhammer-community.com/2019/11/04/psychic-awakening-keeping-ordergw-homepage-post-4/

    Yes, the Emperor sits on a throne of heretic skulls.

    Yes.

    Let the blood flow.

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  • BurnageBurnage irregular Registered User regular
    Looks like another weekend of Marines sweeping the top tables at tournaments. Strong showings from Iron Hands, Fists, Raven Guard, White Scars, and (possibly surprisingly) Blood Angels.

  • bobAkirafettbobAkirafett Registered User regular
    Brainleech wrote: »
    Sigh the new Necromunda is next week but oddly they have waterslide graffiti
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    Still hopefully I either get my tax returns or unemployement rolling as it's getting old fighting with this state over it


    Looks like there's going to be ~21 sprues (13 terrain) in that fat Dark Rising box. It's going to be expensive. :(

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  • BrainleechBrainleech 機知に富んだコメントはここにあります Registered User regular
    Brainleech wrote: »
    Sigh the new Necromunda is next week but oddly they have waterslide graffiti
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    Still hopefully I either get my tax returns or unemployement rolling as it's getting old fighting with this state over it


    Looks like there's going to be ~21 sprues (13 terrain) in that fat Dark Rising box. It's going to be expensive. :(

    I heard it was a horrifying 260+

  • BurnageBurnage irregular Registered User regular
    The new Necromunda box is £175/$290 USD, which is very firmly in "fuck off" territory for me.

  • LockedOnTargetLockedOnTarget Registered User regular
    Maybe someday Necrons will be good in this edition.

    I can only hope

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  • BrainleechBrainleech 機知に富んだコメントはここにあります Registered User regular
    Burnage wrote: »
    The new Necromunda box is £175/$290 USD, which is very firmly in "fuck off" territory for me.

    When I had a job I would just eat cheap till the next paycheck or save from several
    I know Necromunda is not that hot {I got a 2nd box for 50 during the summer} But I feel the terrain will sell but that price will keep away the normal parting it out

  • ExtreaminatusExtreaminatus Registered User regular
    Brainleech wrote: »
    Yeah in the clonelord book it talks about the flawless clone of Ferrus Manus but says nothing of what happens to it at the end

    There's a 30k short story where he makes a bunch of them. Actual spoilers for a short story:
    He makes a bunch of Ferrus Manus clones because daemon Fulgrim is obsessed with converting his brother to join him, which the clone-Ferrususes never do, and he just keeps making more because his daemon dad can't let it drop.

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  • StragintStragint Do Not Gift Always DeclinesRegistered User regular
    Burnage wrote: »
    The new Necromunda box is £175/$290 USD, which is very firmly in "fuck off" territory for me.

    Yea, fuck that noise.

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  • bobAkirafettbobAkirafett Registered User regular
    Stragint wrote: »
    Burnage wrote: »
    The new Necromunda box is £175/$290 USD, which is very firmly in "fuck off" territory for me.

    Yea, fuck that noise.

    I WANT to say fuck that noise, but old Necromunda was/is my favorite setting/game from GW. The new one really is a clusterfuck though. But Necromunda...

    (Warcry with more progression/individual character is really what I'm after now, really like how that game plays)

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  • BrainleechBrainleech 機知に富んだコメントはここにあります Registered User regular
    I like Necromunda then and now but yes 290 is a lot for that {as I said I think it's to scare the people parting boxes out} I know Necromunda is not as hot as other games but I also feel this is more of the specialist tag in GW

  • Styrofoam SammichStyrofoam Sammich WANT. 5386-8443-8937Registered User regular
    290 is ridiculous even for warhammer

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  • SmokeStacksSmokeStacks The Myth, the Legend, the Bowman, the Shambler FuckerRegistered User regular
    The terrain looks amazing, but $290 is enough for me to buy a 3D Printer and enough filament to start cranking out my own.

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  • VanguardVanguard A wretched country of duskRegistered User, __BANNED USERS regular
    You could grab the old box plus this: http://deathraydesigns.com/product/deadbolts-derelict-corridors-bundle/

    And come out ahead

  • KhraulKhraul Registered User regular
    The terrain looks amazing, but $290 is enough for me to buy a 3D Printer and enough filament to start cranking out my own.

    Is the owner of a 3D printer, the terrain it pumps out is pretty goddamn good.

    I was thinking about wanting the terrain from that box, then I realized I can just print it all

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  • StragintStragint Do Not Gift Always DeclinesRegistered User regular
    The terrain was absolutely the driving force for my interest in that box.

    I do want to eventually get a 3D printer, I just don't know what price range is good. I've seen some great 3D printed terrain.

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  • KhraulKhraul Registered User regular
    Stragint wrote: »
    The terrain was absolutely the driving force for my interest in that box.

    I do want to eventually get a 3D printer, I just don't know what price range is good. I've seen some great 3D printed terrain.

    The ender 3 is a fantastic starter filament printer, which is good for bigger less detailed stuff like terrain

    The anycubic photon has had awesome reviews for smaller more detailed resin minis.

    Both are the same price or less than that necromunda box.

    The cost per piece of terrain is pennies on a filament printer like the ender 3 and a buck or so for a resin printer.

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  • KhraulKhraul Registered User regular
    That said there are time constraints... A decent piece of terrain on my ender 3 can take 12-36 hours depending on size and detail.

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  • DodgeBlanDodgeBlan PSN: dodgeblanRegistered User regular
    I read the corpse grinder cult fluff on the warhammer community page today and they've achieved a level of grimdarkery beyond anything i thought possible
    The Mercator Pallidus (better known as the Corpse Guilds) are responsible for feeding the populace of Necromunda – they take the bodies of the dead, render them down into refined protein and it’s this corpse-starch that keeps the underhive alive. But this is gruesome work – for those who carve up the carcasses and throw the parts into industrial grinders, madness is a constant risk.

    Those who fall prey to insanity make easy recruits for the worshippers of the Lord of Skin and Sinew. They turn their cleavers and boning swords on the living and quickly discover that they prefer the taste of fresh flesh to corpse-starch. With the sound of meat saws whirring and the chanting of prayers to their bloody master, the Corpse Grinder Cults prepare to take the underhive for themselves.

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  • Styrofoam SammichStyrofoam Sammich WANT. 5386-8443-8937Registered User regular
    Oh they unionzied, good for them

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  • SleepSleep Registered User regular
    It's hilarious to me that some of the greatest most insidious threats to the imperium are often worker unions hiding chaos and genestealer cults.

  • TastyfishTastyfish Registered User regular
    DodgeBlan wrote: »
    I read the corpse grinder cult fluff on the warhammer community page today and they've achieved a level of grimdarkery beyond anything i thought possible
    The Mercator Pallidus (better known as the Corpse Guilds) are responsible for feeding the populace of Necromunda – they take the bodies of the dead, render them down into refined protein and it’s this corpse-starch that keeps the underhive alive. But this is gruesome work – for those who carve up the carcasses and throw the parts into industrial grinders, madness is a constant risk.

    Those who fall prey to insanity make easy recruits for the worshippers of the Lord of Skin and Sinew. They turn their cleavers and boning swords on the living and quickly discover that they prefer the taste of fresh flesh to corpse-starch. With the sound of meat saws whirring and the chanting of prayers to their bloody master, the Corpse Grinder Cults prepare to take the underhive for themselves.

    I thought this is also set in a different Hive, which was walled off and abandoned due to excessive corruption. People are the only resource left if you've not access to off-world supplies.

  • Mr_RoseMr_Rose 83 Blue Ridge Protects the Holy Registered User regular
    Tastyfish wrote: »
    DodgeBlan wrote: »
    I read the corpse grinder cult fluff on the warhammer community page today and they've achieved a level of grimdarkery beyond anything i thought possible
    The Mercator Pallidus (better known as the Corpse Guilds) are responsible for feeding the populace of Necromunda – they take the bodies of the dead, render them down into refined protein and it’s this corpse-starch that keeps the underhive alive. But this is gruesome work – for those who carve up the carcasses and throw the parts into industrial grinders, madness is a constant risk.

    Those who fall prey to insanity make easy recruits for the worshippers of the Lord of Skin and Sinew. They turn their cleavers and boning swords on the living and quickly discover that they prefer the taste of fresh flesh to corpse-starch. With the sound of meat saws whirring and the chanting of prayers to their bloody master, the Corpse Grinder Cults prepare to take the underhive for themselves.

    I thought this is also set in a different Hive, which was walled off and abandoned due to excessive corruption. People are the only resource left if you've not access to off-world supplies.
    Sort of? The ‘other hive’ is a historical scenario, where the actual boxed game is set with the larger than normal gangs representing the final days before the Enforcers were evac’d and the hive was opened to the atmosphere. The ‘present day’ has the corpsegrinder cult, once thought dead and buried in the ash wastes, on the rise again in multiple hives, including Primus. The Book of Ruin also has rules for cult-ifying your regular gangs as well as the final printed form of the genestealer and chaos cult gangs.

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  • BrainleechBrainleech 機知に富んだコメントはここにあります Registered User regular
    Mr_Rose wrote: »
    Tastyfish wrote: »
    DodgeBlan wrote: »
    I read the corpse grinder cult fluff on the warhammer community page today and they've achieved a level of grimdarkery beyond anything i thought possible
    The Mercator Pallidus (better known as the Corpse Guilds) are responsible for feeding the populace of Necromunda – they take the bodies of the dead, render them down into refined protein and it’s this corpse-starch that keeps the underhive alive. But this is gruesome work – for those who carve up the carcasses and throw the parts into industrial grinders, madness is a constant risk.

    Those who fall prey to insanity make easy recruits for the worshippers of the Lord of Skin and Sinew. They turn their cleavers and boning swords on the living and quickly discover that they prefer the taste of fresh flesh to corpse-starch. With the sound of meat saws whirring and the chanting of prayers to their bloody master, the Corpse Grinder Cults prepare to take the underhive for themselves.

    I thought this is also set in a different Hive, which was walled off and abandoned due to excessive corruption. People are the only resource left if you've not access to off-world supplies.
    Sort of? The ‘other hive’ is a historical scenario, where the actual boxed game is set with the larger than normal gangs representing the final days before the Enforcers were evac’d and the hive was opened to the atmosphere. The ‘present day’ has the corpsegrinder cult, once thought dead and buried in the ash wastes, on the rise again in multiple hives, including Primus. The Book of Ruin also has rules for cult-ifying your regular gangs as well as the final printed form of the genestealer and chaos cult gangs.

    I thought the other hive was nuked or they blew it's heat sink
    I thought the Corpegrinder is a guild/cult. I do like how they are fleshing out the culture of the hive/world past the gangs but I am annoyed by the specialist tag they placed on the off games

    It does have a lot but a nearly 300 starter that's questionable Blood of The Phoenix was also as questionable

    But sadly a lot of the pro price comments I have seen are the argument I hate about this game. The anti poor comments. I heard them when I first started when I played 40k last and now again. How it's a game for the middle class or such not for the poor. When I playing with my black templars I told someone the space marine megaforce was a damn good deal [the one with the dread and land raider} When they asked how was a cheap and fast way to get into the hobby. While he was looking at the box and asking me questions about it. Someone pointed out how 40k is not for the casual worker it's for those in professional jobs giving me a stick eye {I was wearing my BDUs}
    This comment and lesser but similar ones have stuck with me over the years. Yes I have spent about 5k on this game over the years [from 93 though today} Is that a lot yes but people spend as much or more on their hobbies

    Still I don't know if Blood of The Phoenix is a big seller {I don't think it is as it's still on ebay and the parted out pieces are up there in prices [the prices are generally what I feel Gw will charge for those bits} But I feel the New Necromunda is too pricey but will I get it probably?

  • Gabriel_PittGabriel_Pitt (effective against the Irish) Registered User regular
    Dumbass hobby gatekeepers are always going to find something to be a dumbass gatekeeper about.

    I think the pricepoint of the box is pretty steep, but it's still an adequate deal for what you get. It's just not a spectacular deal like some of the earlier sets were. Pricing like this, and the leak on the Sister's box makes me think that they want more profit out of the sets than what they qere getting before.

    Whether they've accurately judged higher profit per box vs lower.total sales I guess remains to be seen.

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  • see317see317 Registered User regular
    Somebody really needs to walk the GW leadership through the concept of "Loss Leaders" in pricing.
    Get people started with cheap, generalist starter boxes, then make up the difference in prices on the more specialized units once we're hooked.

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  • SleepSleep Registered User regular
    edited November 5
    see317 wrote: »
    Somebody really needs to walk the GW leadership through the concept of "Loss Leaders" in pricing.
    Get people started with cheap, generalist starter boxes, then make up the difference in prices on the more specialized units once we're hooked.

    As an example GW:

    Box with a 10 rack of boys: 50 bucks
    Box with one warboss: 50 bucks
    Box with special character: 75 bucks

    It's not that hard, we already get that it's a pay to play system this just further cements it and conveniently I need to buy 3 boyz boxes to even have a worthwhile unit. Seriously with pricing like this I could convince way more people to buy into table top war gaming just for the social aspect. Bu that I just mean the pricing model the numbers are pulled totally out of the blue I haven't had to buy a box in years.

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  • BurnageBurnage irregular Registered User regular
    edited November 5
    see317 wrote: »
    Somebody really needs to walk the GW leadership through the concept of "Loss Leaders" in pricing.
    Get people started with cheap, generalist starter boxes, then make up the difference in prices on the more specialized units once we're hooked.

    They've been doing this for a couple of years - Start Collecting boxes were great, some of the starter boxes for 8th edition have been really good value. It's really only in the last six months or so that prices have started to get haywire again.

    Finishing 2019 with a quadruple punch of Blood of the Phoenix, Necromunda, Sisters and the Christmas battleforces all being expensive is utterly wild.

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  • BrainleechBrainleech 機知に富んだコメントはここにあります Registered User regular
    Have they released the prices for the Xmas deals?

  • BurnageBurnage irregular Registered User regular
    Brainleech wrote: »
    Have they released the prices for the Xmas deals?

    They've been leaked. $170 for the Chaos, Space Wolves and T'au ones, $185 for Drukhari, Blood Angels and Tyranids.

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    Oof

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  • BrainleechBrainleech 機知に富んだコメントはここにあります Registered User regular
    Burnage wrote: »
    Brainleech wrote: »
    Have they released the prices for the Xmas deals?

    They've been leaked. $170 for the Chaos, Space Wolves and T'au ones, $185 for Drukhari, Blood Angels and Tyranids.

    That's not bad as I did post the breakdown earlier if you bought the armies the chaos is the worst deal if it's 170 {it costs 190 normally for what they showed}

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