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[WH40K] All hail our machine overlords

BurnageBurnage irregularRegistered User regular
edited October 15 in Critical Failures
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Warhammer 40k is a futuristic tabletop strategy game created by Games Workshop that pits multiple races and factions against each other for control of the galaxy.

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The Current State of the Game

8th Edition has arrived, and with it the narrative has moved on for the first time in decades. Cadia has fallen, Biel-Tan has been fractured, new factions have risen, and amongst the ashes the Ultramarines Primarch Roboute Guilliman has returned to attempt to salvage the Dark Imperium. Shit is definitely on fire.

The current edition has been around for a few years now, and GW has been doing a pretty good job of balancing the game through regular updates via FAQs and the annual releases of Chapter Approved. It's a pretty good time to be involved in playing this game.

How Do I Get Started?

40k can be a daunting game for beginners. Luckily, there are now some nice places to start; the core rules are available for free, the First Strike starter set is a cheap way to get enough models and extras for two people to start playing, and the Easy to Build line of models give you a cheap way to pick up models if you're interested in putting some together and painting them (or just to expand your current collection).

The Dark Imperium starter set is probably the best way to go if you really want to dive in, as it'll give you a full rulebook alongside two decently sized armies. It only contains Space Marine and Death Guard units, but if you like the look of another army you might find a Start Collecting! box for them which will give you an easy way to begin playing them.

Hold On, How Do I Choose A Faction?

The simplest answer to this question is; however you want to. You might find the look of an army appealing. Maybe you like the way that it plays. Or maybe you just want to pick up the new hotness that's currently dominating tournaments. Whatever! It's your army. Details of a lot of the factions can be found below, but you can broadly divide them into a few different groups which share traits; Imperial factions tend to be versatile and solid at everything, Chaos factions are like the Imperium except edgier, Eldar armies tend towards being glass cannons, etc. 8th edition's rules allow you to mix and match similar factions to an extent, so if, for instance, you like the look of both Space Marines and Sisters of Battle then you can run both in the same army.

But Once I've Got All This, Where Do I Find A Game?

Maybe you've got some friends who play. Maybe there's a local hobby or gaming shop in your area - if there is, odds are good that there'll be people looking for games. 40k's always been popular in tabletop crowds and 8th edition seems to have made it even easier to find games. There are also large tournaments like the Las Vegas Open and the London GT, if you fancy diving into the competitive side of the game.

Factions:

Imperium
Adeptus Astartes (Space Marines)
- The Loyal -
They are the most powerful and dreaded of all the human warriors in the galaxy. No longer strictly human, but superhuman, superior in all respects to mere men by a harsh regime of genetic modification, psycho-conditioning and rigorous training. Few in number compared to the uncounted trillions of humanity, Space Marines are organized into small independent armies called Chapters that stand ready to lay fight wherever the Imperium needs them. Their unswerving loyalty is to the Emperor of Mankind first, their Chapter second, and none other beyond that. There are also a number of specific Chapters with notably unique traits, such as the Blood Angels (space vampires), Space Wolves (space... wolves), and the Dark Angels (unquestionably loyal).

Adeptus Custodes (Golden Space Marines)
- The Watchful -
The Emperor's personal golden army, these chaps have finally become bored of standing by a corpse for several thousand years and have instead decided to venture out into space on their own personal jetbikes. These guys are the most elite of elite armies, and are the faction you want to be taking if you want every single model in your army to outclass the strongest heroes of other factions.

Adeptus Mechanicus
-The Ironhearted -
The Adeptus Mechanicus is a technological organisation, often known as the Priesthood of Mars. It holds a monopoly on technological knowledge in the Imperium. Their Forge Worlds turn out the Imperium's most powerful and advanced weaponry and equipment. The organisation's adepts, the Tech-priests, are vital in maintaining much of the Imperium's more technologically advanced equipment, not the least of which is the Emperor's life-sustaining Golden Throne.

Astra Militarum (Imperial Guard)
- The Dutiful -
In the midst of genetically engineered super-beings, alien killing machines, warrior mystics, and technology that approaches sorcery in its sophistication, the Imperial Guard are mere mortals. Protected by little more than faith, they contend with the most terrifying threats the darkest corners of the galaxy vomits forth armed with flesh and steel. As such it is easy to identify with these brave souls and to see in them the qualities of true heroes. Also: tanks tanks lol

Adepta Soritas (Sisters of Battle)
- The Faithful -
The darkness contained within the hearts and minds of humanity itself is a sinister and subtle threat. The heretic, mutant, and rogue psyker threaten humanity with an internal rot as damaging any xenos invasion. The Ordo Hereticus exists to seek and burn out this threat. The Sisters of Battle, empowered by their unwavering faith in the Holy Emperor of Terra, hunt the witch, the heretic, the fallen cleric, and none is permitted to escape the cleansing fire of their wrath.


Grey Knights
- The Hammer -
The Grey Knights are the amongst the most inscrutable of the Imperium's many organizations. Incorruptible, armed with the best weapons and equipment that Mankind has to offer, they are humanity's defense against the darkness of Chaos wherever it may lurk.

Chaos
Daemons
- The Nightmares -
Lust, hate, despair, sorrow. All emotion has a reverberation within the warp, the worst, most bitterly felt, and the furthest extreme becoming strong enough to persist, coalesce, and finally, become. It was from the darkest corners of the galaxy's hearts that Khorne - Lord Upon the Skullthrone, Tzeentch - The Changer of Ways, Nurgle - The Final Decay, and Slaneesh - The Feaster of Pain, sprang forth, and they await the time when the veil against the Warp wears thin, and their warriors, spawn, and offspring can pour through.

Heretic Astartes (Chaos Space Marines)
- The Betrayers -
During the tumult of the birth of the Imperium of Man, half of the Emperor's most trusted Legions turned against him in a bitter civil war. Brother fought brother, and Mankind drove itself to the very brink of extinction. Ten thousand years after their defeat, those same traitors still launch their Black Crusades from within the Eye of Terror, their dead hearts intent upon nothing less than the utter destruction of the Imperium and the death of its weakling Emperor.

Xenos
Asuryani (Craftworlds Eldar)
- The Dying -
An almost unimaginably ancient race who once ruled an empire spanning the galaxy. Then came the hideous time of the Fall, when the Eldar were consumed by their own decadence and nearly obliterated to the last, the few survivors scattered across the stars. Though now few in number, they are still one of the most advanced races in the galaxy. This advantage combined with the prescient abilities of their Farseers, who scry the future, guide their kin along the most favorable paths of fate, no matter what the cost to the lesser races.

Drukhari (Dark Eldar)
- The Lost-
These spawn of unquiet dreams inhabit a realm called Commorragh, a place as darkly twisted as its rulers, from which these merciless pirates launch raids across the length and breadth of the galaxy. The purpose of these raids is not to conquer planets or protect territory but to cause mayhem, steal, pillage, and – most importantly of all – capture new victims to be taken back to Commorragh for endless torture. Having fallen far into the depths of depravity, their every waking moment is dedicated to inflicting pain and suffering on the galaxy. The Dark Eldar are broadly an alliance of three loose groups; Kabals (pirate raiders), Wych Cults (drugged-up gladiators), and Haemonculus Covens (the cenobites from Hellraiser).

Harlequins
-The Laughing-
The Harlequins are the keepers of the Black Library and serve the enigmatic Eldar deity called the Laughing God. The Harlequins see no distinction between art and war, and their outlook can best be explained by reference to the legend of the Fall; one of their self-appointed duties is to keep this legend alive through their performances. The Laughing God is the only authority that the Harlequins recognise, and their every deed is thought to be in furtherance of his own inscrutable agenda. Harlequins are undeniably part of the Eldar race, yet they owe no allegiance to any given Craftworld or Kabal.

Ynnari
-The Undying-
The Ynnari are a newly formed Eldar group that worship the God Ynnead and believe their race can be saved from the predation of Slaanesh, by helping to bring about the birth of the slumbering God of the dead. Led by Ynnead's Emissary Yvraine, the group is composed of Eldar from the Craftworlds, Corsair groups, Commorragh and even from among the Harlequins. With their combined might they have become a rising force in the galaxy, who not only seek to bring about Ynnead's birth, but also return the Eldar to the glory their race had before their Empire fell. However, the arrogant coercion they employ to save their race, has alienated as many Eldar as it has united under Yvraine's command. Worse still, many see the Ynnari as corrupted by the very daemonic forces they seek to thwart, while others believe they are already dead inside.

Necrons
- The Ancient -
Ancient beyond imagining even before their great sleep, the Necrons are awakening from their 60-million-year dormancy to plague the living once more. Countless thousands of immortal, soulless warriors have risen from dusty stasis-tombs, their cold wills bent on harvesting the teeming species of the galaxy. They commanded the stars long before the ancient Eldar had even begun their existence, and it is only that so few have awoken that they do not pose a greater threat in the current day.

Orks
- The Beast -
The most widespread and warlike race of aliens in the bloodstained galaxy of the 41st millennium. From the depths of the galactic core to the distant ghost-stars beyond the galactic rim, Ork empires rise, clash, fall and the remnants mixing to begin the cycle again. In terms of sheer numbers and planets, Orks occupy more of the galaxy than any other single race, and if they ever unified, they would crush all opposition the stood before them, It is to the galaxy's benefit that the orks' passion for violence is so unquenchable that they spend their entire lives embroiled in war, fighting each other as readily as any other foe.

T'au
- The Young -
Since their first contact with the Imperium in the 35th millennium, the Tau have risen from a hunter-gatherer society to a star-faring race, nibbling at the flanks of the Imperium, in less than six thousand years. Absolute obedient to the command of the enigmatic ethereal caste, the Tau believe that now is their time. It is their race and their Empire that will bring unity to the stars, all races equal, the Tau first among them. There is no foe their technology cannot overcome, no quandary their science cannot resolve, the stars and all that lies between to be joined beneath the aegis of the Greater Good.

Tyranids
- The Hungry -
Without a doubt the most alien race encountered by Humanity. They have been likened to locusts, piranhas, on a galactic scale remorselessly hungry, too numerous to destroy. Tyranids are a nomadic, space-dwelling race that emerged from the void between galaxies into our own in search of new resources to consume. These hive fleets have discovered sustenance in abundance in the forms of the myriad species of the Milky Way, leaving nothing but balls of scoured rock in the wake of their titanic swarms, tendrils boring ever deeper towards the heart of our galaxy.

Genestealer Cults
-The Insidious-
A Genestealer Cult is a xenos-worshipping secret society made up of and controlled by Tyranid Genestealers that thrives in the dark corners of the Imperial underworld across the galaxy. Secretive, stealthy, and utterly malignant, Genestealer Cults are the cankers growing unseen in the hidden spaces of Mankind's realm. Some cultists are truly monstrous, skulking along dank tunnels with robes or hessian sacks covering their hybrid xenos anatomies. Others are merely pallid and bald, able to pass for loyal Imperial citizens whilst their wyrm-form tattoos remain hidden. These latter-generation brethren mingle amongst the herd of Mankind like wolves in sheep's clothing, working so hard amongst the crumbling machineries of Human industry that none spare them a second glance -- but under their work fatigues and rough miner’s apparel, they all bear the mark of the alien.

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    http://www.tengumodels.co.uk/index.htm Grey Aliens, Zombies, and Cthuluhu, oh my...
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    http://www.tobsen77.de/index.php?lan=en Vehicles that would look good in an Ork army, or a wooden Steam Tank
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    http://trollforged.com/index.html Another company I can personally vouch for being pretty excellent. Resin casts of several useful styles of models- Daemons, beasts, definitely-not-Tyranids, and best of all, Guardsmen with greatcoats!
    http://www.ultraforgeminiatures.com/ If you aren't going to Avatars of War for your Fantasy needs, you damn well better be going here. Ultraforge specializes in huge, detailed models of monsters like dragons, greater daemons, and the like, and their work is second to none. They also enjoy cult popularity as the makers of an excellent set of wings that can be added to models that are in need of flight, not the least of the Hive Tyrants and Harpies.
    http://www.urbanmammoth.co.uk/ I have some of their older models for my Necromunda gangs
    http://www.victorialamb.com/store.html IG Conversion bitz from the sculptor who did those 'Spanish Inquisition' Monty Python models.
    http://www.victoryforce.com/ They have a 'Gamer Rules Lawyer' figure, and WWII re-enactors
    http://www.voodooworx.co.uk/index.htm Custom resin bases
    http://shop.warlordgames.co.uk/ Not sure if these are the same guys as Wargames Factory, but if you want to 40K-ify some historical plastics.
    http://www.warmill.co.uk/storepage814911.aspx Custom clear bases, MDF terrain kits and bitz.
    http://www.wargamesfactory.com/webstore Makers of a variety of plastic kits, all of them competitively-priced compared to the alternatives. Foremost on the list would probably be their zombie and shock trooper kits, but they also have a variety of historical minis that could be integrated into a thematic force of some kind.
    http://www.wargamesfoundry.com/asp/nocookie.asp Lots of miniatures, but not to scale with 40K. Diverse selection, though.
    http://www.warploqueminiatures.co.uk/Fantasy miniatures
    http://www.westwindproductions.co.uk/ These guys have alternate-future WWII scifi stuff. Some cool mech thingies and neat troops.
    http://www.wholesale-miracle-beads.com/25mm-round-flat-back-clear-crystal-glass-cabochon-top-quality Clear glass bases for your miniatures.
    http://willy-miniatures.blogspot.com/ Fantasy Football alternate models. Some of the Undead team would look great in a Zombie Apocalypse type game.
    http://wyrd-games.net/shop/home.php Makers of Malifaux, a very cool-looking game that I unfortunately can't really afford to get into right now. But, like Hell Dorado, they have an awesome line of minis with a style all their own, slightly steampunk with a fantastic twist and some of the dark sensibilities that infuse GW's games.
    http://www.zealotminiatures.co.uk Resin miniatures and bitz, female tau heads, Space Marine scaled Guitars and bionics, etc.
    http://www.zombiesmith.com/ Zombies, survivors, and a tutorial video on "how I cast miniatures".
    http://www.zuzzy.com/ Scenery pieces and tabletops almost exclusively- and pretty nice ones, at that. If green felt isn't your thing, give this a look and see if you can't go for something more exotic; I'm told they are rather durable and quite worth the price.

    Other Places to Talk About the Game
    http://www.shiftedmatrix.com - Website owned and run by this thread's own Sharp101. It has expanded to include other contributors who are regulars in this thread. Blog posting that cover all things related to 40k and wargaming

    http://belloflostsouls.org - A great 40k (and sometimes fantasy) rumor site. They also post articles on campaigning, modeling and home made rules.

    http://www.chessex.com/ - Online custom dice store, great customer service and speed.

    http://www.warseer.com - Currently about the biggest GW-related forum on the net. Unfortunately, it has a horrible signal/noise ratio, but the rumors forums are frequently the first place to hear accurate news of upcoming products.

    http://www.bolterandchainsword.com/ - All about Space Marines and high fashion (okay, not the latter)

    http://www.the-waaagh.com - All about the orks orks orks orks! Jobs a gud'un boss.

    http://forums.tauonline.org/index.php - All things Tau in one handy place. Sign up for the greater good!

    http://www.dakkadakka.com/ - They used to be cool. Totally the place to go if you want to know why the hobby is dying. Also, a great coverage of all things wargaming.

    http://www.bartertown.com/ - The place to go when looking for like-minded people with models for trade and sale.

    Army Transports
    Because you need a way to cart all your wonderful new toys around, here are a couple recommendations beyond what you can get from GW itself:

    Sabol Army Transports A little expensive, but I use them exclusively, because of the quite reasonable international shipping price, and mostly for the fact that you can custom cut the foam trays to fit your models. Also available from the War Store.

    Figures in Comfort A wide range of precut foam trays, and carrying cases for whatever your needs.

    Battle Foam Sturdy solid cases and custom cut foam tray. Pricey, but guaranteed to keep your little dudes safe and secure in transit.

    Tabletop Tyrant are a UK based company that do some nice transport cases, as well. Check them out!

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  • SmokeStacksSmokeStacks The Myth, the Legend, the Bowman, the Shambler FuckerRegistered User regular
    Combat Arena comes out today, but it's out of stock on the B&N website.

    This vexes me. I am vexed.

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  • BrainleechBrainleech 機知に富んだコメントはここにあります Registered User regular
    Combat Arena comes out today, but it's out of stock on the B&N website.

    This vexes me. I am vexed.

    Well you can wait for Blackstone Fortress Escalation if you have that game as well

    Part of me wants Dreadfane but I have to go down to that area where B&N is maybe this weekend

  • SmokeStacksSmokeStacks The Myth, the Legend, the Bowman, the Shambler FuckerRegistered User regular
    Combat Arena is literally a reskinned Gorechosen, and Gorechosen is fun as hell though.

    Plus the guy I play BSF with owns a hobby store abd gets all of his stuff at cost, so he's been buying all of the expansions himself.

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  • BrainleechBrainleech 機知に富んだコメントはここにあります Registered User regular
    Yep New Space Marine codex


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  • BrainleechBrainleech 機知に富んだコメントはここにあります Registered User regular
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    Oddly the Grey Knights get it as well

  • NorgothNorgoth cardiffRegistered User regular
    All Astares do including chaos.

    Sure let’s give deamon princes and lords discordant an extra attack. Seems like a good idea.

    I’m a little worried about the chapter supplements. Does that mean that there are no chapter tactics in the book itself? It smacks a little of splitting codexes up.

  • StragintStragint Do Not Gift Always DeclinesRegistered User regular
    edited August 3
    So I need to buy this new codex to properly use my Space Wolves?

    Edit: looks like the new codex and the Space Wolves supplement. This is lame. Might as well just do the index again.

    I do like the stealth light dreadnought and the impulsor is interesting but with current pricing I assume I'm not gonna buy any of it for a long time. Still can't get myself to drop $100 for executioners.

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  • BrainleechBrainleech 機知に富んだコメントはここにあります Registered User regular
    Norgoth wrote: »
    All Astares do including chaos.

    Sure let’s give deamon princes and lords discordant an extra attack. Seems like a good idea.

    I’m a little worried about the chapter supplements. Does that mean that there are no chapter tactics in the book itself? It smacks a little of splitting codexes up.

    From the rumor I saw/heard about the chapter codexes was you would need the space marine one but da lore and chapter stuff is for chapter in their codex
    It was when I was searching in vain for the white dwarf that had the crimson fist stuff and the imperial fist primaris sprue I asked the GW manager and he told me about the sons of dorn rumor so the Imperial fists and their decendents would be in one codex

    So I wonder if the mantis warriors are in the white scar one now

  • BrainleechBrainleech 機知に富んだコメントはここにあります Registered User regular
    The rumor as he said it was the Space Marine codex would be generic not ultramarine generic but real generic of a codex
    So you would need the SM codex to use the sub codex Which I felt made sense because I did not how the black templars were in the current one. So it's both nice and sucks they went back to the codex system of old kind of with the main and sub codexes

    What sucks is because I got fired back in June and look in vain for a job so I have to really plan out my money since I have none coming in

  • see317see317 Registered User regular
    Stragint wrote: »
    So I need to buy this new codex to properly use my Space Wolves?

    Edit: looks like the new codex and the Space Wolves supplement. This is lame. Might as well just do the index again.

    I do like the stealth light dreadnought and the impulsor is interesting but with current pricing I assume I'm not gonna buy any of it for a long time. Still can't get myself to drop $100 for executioners.
    "Ignore the bright blue, 20 foot tall war machine that's bristling with weapons crouching behind that bush.
    He's bein' sneaky."

    I know, I know, logic left the battlefield a long time ago. But the stealth pseudo dreadnought strikes me as funny.

    Also, I wonder how many heavy bolter pistols the average pilot goes through trying to figure out how to grab it with the power fist before they develop that light touch.

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    Well except what see317 said. That guy's always wrong.
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  • BurnageBurnage irregular Registered User regular
    Norgoth wrote: »
    All Astares do including chaos.

    Sure let’s give deamon princes and lords discordant an extra attack. Seems like a good idea.

    I’m a little worried about the chapter supplements. Does that mean that there are no chapter tactics in the book itself? It smacks a little of splitting codexes up.

    Last thing 8th edition needs is even more book keeping.

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  • Lord_AsmodeusLord_Asmodeus goeticSobriquet: Here is your magical cryptic riddle-tumour: I AM A TIME MACHINERegistered User regular
    Ah, I see the Space Marines have finally started adapting Ork tactics. A real Kommando Dreadnought there.

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  • honoverehonovere Registered User regular
    edited August 3
    Stealth 'nought needs a big knife instead of the bolter and a bare head for the driver that looks like Stephen Lang.

    The last teaser, psychic awakening: persistent spells with models like in AoS maybe?

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  • BrainleechBrainleech 機知に富んだコメントはここにあります Registered User regular
    I do wonder what it means

  • MazzyxMazzyx Comedy Gold Registered User regular
    So basic math btw for chaos:

    Possessed on the charge are 1+d3 now. Which averages to 3 attacks. With the combos that would average 30 str 6 -2 d1 attacks with a greater possessed.

    Raptors are 3A on the charge. Same with warp talons. So that is a nice buff.

    Zerkers are base 3A on the charge. If you build them right with chain axe+chainsword they are 4A on the charge (3 at st 6 ap -1, 1 at str 5 ap 0). And attack twice. If they are world eaters that is 5 attacks each. So a 10 man squad puts out 100 attacks you can give +1 to W. And 150 if you go a third time with the stratagem.

    Noise marines and chosen become base 3 attacks on the charge as well. Not bad for them. 14 points a chosen can have a bolter, bolt pistol, and a chainsword for 4A+bolter discipline.

    Termis are 3 base attacks. 4 with lightning claws.

    As for characters you get the following:

    6A on Master of Executions and Greater Possessed.

    Chaos lords are 5A attacks on the charge.

    Discordants at the top will be 5+5+2+1 for 13 attacks.

    Abbadon is 7+d6 attacks.

    Huron and Lucius are 6 attacks.

    Kharn is 8 attacks on the charge.(16 really he, attacks twice)

    Fabius Bile is 7 attacks.

    Daemon Princes are 5+1 base. If you use claws that 8 attacks. If you use the elixir that is 9 attacks. Daemon strength that is 10 attacks at str 10 ap-2 d2.

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  • BrainleechBrainleech 機知に富んだコメントはここにあります Registered User regular
    Mazzyx wrote: »
    So basic math btw for chaos:

    Possessed on the charge are 1+d3 now. Which averages to 3 attacks. With the combos that would average 30 str 6 -2 d1 attacks with a greater possessed.

    Raptors are 3A on the charge. Same with warp talons. So that is a nice buff.

    Zerkers are base 3A on the charge. If you build them right with chain axe+chainsword they are 4A on the charge (3 at st 6 ap -1, 1 at str 5 ap 0). And attack twice. If they are world eaters that is 5 attacks each. So a 10 man squad puts out 100 attacks you can give +1 to W. And 150 if you go a third time with the stratagem.

    Noise marines and chosen become base 3 attacks on the charge as well. Not bad for them. 14 points a chosen can have a bolter, bolt pistol, and a chainsword for 4A+bolter discipline.

    Termis are 3 base attacks. 4 with lightning claws.

    As for characters you get the following:

    6A on Master of Executions and Greater Possessed.

    Chaos lords are 5A attacks on the charge.

    Discordants at the top will be 5+5+2+1 for 13 attacks.

    Abbadon is 7+d6 attacks.

    Huron and Lucius are 6 attacks.

    Kharn is 8 attacks on the charge.(16 really he, attacks twice)

    Fabius Bile is 7 attacks.

    Daemon Princes are 5+1 base. If you use claws that 8 attacks. If you use the elixir that is 9 attacks. Daemon strength that is 10 attacks at str 10 ap-2 d2.

    hmm might as well res my CSM then

  • GnomeTankGnomeTank Registered User regular
    Not a huge fan of needing two new books (Codex SM and supplement Ultramarines), but I've spent so much money on my smurfs at this point it's kind of a shrug of indigniation more than anything else.

    Nice to finally get a dedicated Primaris transport that hopefully isn't land raider priced. Was hoping for a few more new unit archetypes for Primaris, but it does says more units are coming, so we'll see.

    Overall, as a purely Ultramarines player, I'm mostly happy.

    One question though: Am I missing something with Shock Assault? Why do people think it applies to Demon Princes? It's an Adeptus Astartes rule?

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  • VikingViking Registered User regular
    Norgoth wrote: »
    All Astares do including chaos.

    Sure let’s give deamon princes and lords discordant an extra attack. Seems like a good idea.

    why hello there Flail of Corruption my old friend

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  • MazzyxMazzyx Comedy Gold Registered User regular
    GnomeTank wrote: »
    Not a huge fan of needing two new books (Codex SM and supplement Ultramarines), but I've spent so much money on my smurfs at this point it's kind of a shrug of indigniation more than anything else.

    Nice to finally get a dedicated Primaris transport that hopefully isn't land raider priced. Was hoping for a few more new unit archetypes for Primaris, but it does says more units are coming, so we'll see.

    Overall, as a purely Ultramarines player, I'm mostly happy.

    One question though: Am I missing something with Shock Assault? Why do people think it applies to Demon Princes? It's an Adeptus Astartes rule?
    Cool, huh? And before you ask, yes, as Adeptus Astartes, the Grey Knights and Deathwatch will also receive this updated ability, so if purging Daemons and xenos is your thing, you’re still covered! “But what about us?” we hear you (dis)loyal fans of the Traitor Legions cry, “We love hitting things in combat too!” Well, you’re right… In fact, you’re so right that you’re also getting Shock Assault! Chaos Space Marines, Death Guard and Thousand Sons may be ‘Heretic’ Astartes, but they’re still Space Marines and they fight with the same brutal fury of their loyalist kin.

    Hertic Astares get it as well. My guess tied to death to the false emperor. All above have that rule and get legion rules.

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  • GnomeTankGnomeTank Registered User regular
    Demon Princes have Death To the False Emperor? I can see Chaos Space Marines getting it, but I thought Daemon Princes were Chaos Daemons not CSM. That's the part that is confusing me.

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  • MazzyxMazzyx Comedy Gold Registered User regular
    GnomeTank wrote: »
    Demon Princes have Death To the False Emperor? I can see Chaos Space Marines getting it, but I thought Daemon Princes were Chaos Daemons not CSM. That's the part that is confusing me.

    There are four types of Daemon Princes.

    CSM Daemon Princes-Have legion/renegade rules, the heretic astartes keyword, death to the false emperor, legion keywords, in the CSM Codex
    Daemon Daemon Princes-Have daemon rules, use daemon artifacts, do not have the csm rules or keywords including death to the false emperor
    T-Sons D-Princes-Same as CSM but have two spells and a 4++ and T-Sons rules
    Death Guard Princes-Have the 5+++ and deathguard rules

    Daemon Princes have always been a chaos space marine HQ entry all the way back to the 3.5 codex.

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  • GnomeTankGnomeTank Registered User regular
    I have Codex CSM 2.0 right here, I could have just looked this up. Thanks though Mazzyx! One of the things I love about 40K, always learning things.

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  • MazzyxMazzyx Comedy Gold Registered User regular
    The last FAQ put them in all the same category for the rule of 3. Before you could take 3x CSM Princes, 3x Daemon Princes, and 3x T-Sons Princes.

    It wasn't amazing but it was technically legal.

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  • NorgothNorgoth cardiffRegistered User regular
    Viking wrote: »
    Norgoth wrote: »
    All Astares do including chaos.

    Sure let’s give deamon princes and lords discordant an extra attack. Seems like a good idea.

    why hello there Flail of Corruption my old friend

    I always wanted to run melee deathguard.

  • VikingViking Registered User regular
    Norgoth wrote: »
    Viking wrote: »
    Norgoth wrote: »
    All Astares do including chaos.

    Sure let’s give deamon princes and lords discordant an extra attack. Seems like a good idea.

    why hello there Flail of Corruption my old friend

    I always wanted to run melee deathguard.
    especially with Vectors of Death and Disease synergising so nicely with the new Shock Assault rule is more of an incentive to run them that way, I can see more Blight Bombardment popping up more often too seeing as melee plague marines are going to be up close and in grenade range anyway.

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  • MonwynMonwyn Registered User regular
    Norgoth wrote: »
    All Astares do including chaos.

    Sure let’s give deamon princes and lords discordant an extra attack. Seems like a good idea.

    I’m a little worried about the chapter supplements. Does that mean that there are no chapter tactics in the book itself? It smacks a little of splitting codexes up.

    Honestly disco lords getting an extra attack doesn't really matter. They already have 12, bumping it to 13 is kind of whatever. Terminators and Assault Marines may actually be decent now, though, which would be nice.

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  • TheGerbilTheGerbil Registered User regular
    edited August 4
    Assault Marines are still fast attack so why not just spend 1 extra point per model and get vanguard veterans who have base 2 attack and better gear options.

    If assault Marines were troops then we'd be talking.

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  • BrainleechBrainleech 機知に富んだコメントはここにあります Registered User regular
    TheGerbil wrote: »
    Assault Marines are still fast attack so why not just spend 1 extra point per model and get vanguard veterans who have base 2 attack and better gear options.

    If assault Marines were troops then we'd be talking.

    they were at one time as black templars

  • KhraulKhraul Registered User regular
    If shock assault is keyword based then it would very oddly be a buff for tzaangors as they have the Heretic Astartes keyword (unless it's been FAQ'd and I'm not aware)

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  • BurnageBurnage irregular Registered User regular
    Brainleech wrote: »
    I do wonder what it means

    This is almost certainly going to be the 40K version of Sigmar's Endless Spells. Dunno how they're going to handle the factions that don't have psychic powers, though. Dark Eldar can get by with Haemonculi creations that are totally not psychic, honest, but Tau and Necrons are trickier.

  • BrainleechBrainleech 機知に富んだコメントはここにあります Registered User regular
    Burnage wrote: »
    Brainleech wrote: »
    I do wonder what it means

    This is almost certainly going to be the 40K version of Sigmar's Endless Spells. Dunno how they're going to handle the factions that don't have psychic powers, though. Dark Eldar can get by with Haemonculi creations that are totally not psychic, honest, but Tau and Necrons are trickier.

    Nercons would use science
    I have no idea what the Tau would use. The Dark Eldar have ugly science on their side but I do agree it's probably like the endless spells

  • BrainleechBrainleech 機知に富んだコメントはここにあります Registered User regular
    cleaning my keyaboard was a bad idea the space bar no longer wants to work

  • SmokeStacksSmokeStacks The Myth, the Legend, the Bowman, the Shambler FuckerRegistered User regular
    TheGerbil wrote: »
    Assault Marines are still fast attack so why not just spend 1 extra point per model and get vanguard veterans who have base 2 attack and better gear options.

    If assault Marines were troops then we'd be talking.

    I need all of my Elite slots for Dreadnaughts and Terminators.

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  • MazzyxMazzyx Comedy Gold Registered User regular
    TheGerbil wrote: »
    Assault Marines are still fast attack so why not just spend 1 extra point per model and get vanguard veterans who have base 2 attack and better gear options.

    If assault Marines were troops then we'd be talking.

    It is one of the few spots that base wise CSM are better with raptors and warp talons.

    Which isn't saying much as both of them are bad.

    Though this buff helps them a good amount too.

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  • see317see317 Registered User regular
    Brainleech wrote: »
    Burnage wrote: »
    Brainleech wrote: »
    I do wonder what it means

    This is almost certainly going to be the 40K version of Sigmar's Endless Spells. Dunno how they're going to handle the factions that don't have psychic powers, though. Dark Eldar can get by with Haemonculi creations that are totally not psychic, honest, but Tau and Necrons are trickier.

    Nercons would use science
    I have no idea what the Tau would use. The Dark Eldar have ugly science on their side but I do agree it's probably like the endless spells

    I'd guess that Tau would use tech as well. Maybe less "Elder abomination/star eating god" tech and more "Anime gone wrong", but tech would do it. Maybe hard light projectors to generate psyker like effects from specially equipped suits? Swarms of rampant AI drones that no longer follow Tau orders?

    Ringo wrote: »
    Well except what see317 said. That guy's always wrong.
  • italianranmaitalianranma Registered User regular
    Doesn’t have to be psyker flavored magic, things like Virus Bombs or Void Spheres are super sci-fi.

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  • TheGerbilTheGerbil Registered User regular
    As long as my blood angels spells can double as khorne ones I'm good.


  • DayspringDayspring the Phoenician Registered User regular
    I hope Reivers end up worthwhile in the new book. One of the coolest looking units

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  • BrainleechBrainleech 機知に富んだコメントはここにあります Registered User regular
    Dayspring wrote: »
    I hope Reivers end up worthwhile in the new book. One of the coolest looking units

    The only place I made them work is in killteam arena

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