Tekken and Other Fighting Games That Aren't Tekken, I Guess (digital karate simulations)

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  • EuphemonEuphemon itsudemo sagashiteiruyo dokka ni kimi no sugata woRegistered User regular
    edited June 23
    Uriel wrote: »
    That all sounds like stuff claw's been saying, like stuff they've gotten from reading guides and having people from Twitter do coaching stuff.

    And I'm like that's great but you gotta be able to feel some of this stuff out before you can apply any of it. I'd probably get more out of it myself if I had the patience to dive into it myself but like...

    I don't know what moves are safe on block or not really, but I can feel out when it's safe for me to attack in the opponents string after some practice and which moves are fastest to use in those situations or otherwise put me into a decent position.

    Yes that's what I'm saying about learning the situations. Even if you don't know the exact frame data for a string, you know that you can do your fastest attack and it will always punish (ie, the string is punishable by your fastest attack), it will always counterhit or be blocked (ie, the string is minus but not punishable), and vice versa. Obviously "feel" is important too, and some (even top!) players play almost purely by feel, but knowing the frame data will take the guesswork out of it.

    If someone is just trying to randomly mash out in defense to try to get a counterhit, that's not playing smart or playing with frame data, that's just hoping to get lucky.

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  • UrielUriel Registered User regular
    edited June 23
    I think it's an issue where they are not able to read the screen as well as they think they can. Like what knob said. I think you can know the data but knowing it is one thing but implementing it is hard.

    Personally I just know my fingers aren't fast enough to do serious competition so I rely almost entirely on feel and reading my opponent, against claw that gets me the w 9/10 times. Other people? Not so much. But sometimes.

    It's not really mashing out that they are doing either really, they'll do a smart move but... Just a little early or late. Over and over.

    Or I'll be able to bait them into thinking I'm going for one thing then just blocking instead. And going for the counter myself.

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  • templewulftemplewulf The Team Chump USARegistered User regular
    Uriel wrote: »
    I think it's an issue where they are not able to read the screen as well as they think they can. Like what knob said. I think you can know the data but knowing it is one thing but implementing it is hard.

    Personally I just know my fingers aren't fast enough to do serious competition so I rely almost entirely on feel and reading my opponent, against claw that gets me the w 9/10 times. Other people? Not so much. But sometimes.

    It's not really mashing out that they are doing either really, they'll do a smart move but... Just a little early or late. Over and over.

    Or I'll be able to bait them into thinking I'm going for one thing then just blocking instead. And going for the counter myself.
    That's a good point.

    In 2D fighters with very fast frame data, like SF, a 3F advantage means you can get a guaranteed jab into combo, but you *have* to be on the ball to apply it in time.

    Fishing for counter hits is the same principle but much riskier.

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  • DragkoniasDragkonias Registered User regular
    I can't believe Melee got Rollback before so many of these major current titles.

    Like I'm not even that upset it is legit hilarious in a "The Universe really has a sense of humor" kind of way. 😆 🤣

  • EuphemonEuphemon itsudemo sagashiteiruyo dokka ni kimi no sugata woRegistered User regular
    edited June 25
    Shoutouts to the Dolphin team though, that emulator is absolutely incredible.

    Also, re: presentation for SFV

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  • The Cow KingThe Cow King scuz me ur under dog arrest Registered User regular
    finally watching all the mvci cutscenes there are a lot of great character interactions

    ryu teaching hulk to be calm with a beam + meteor super

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  • templewulftemplewulf The Team Chump USARegistered User regular
    finally watching all the mvci cutscenes there are a lot of great character interactions

    ryu teaching hulk to be calm with a beam + meteor super

    frank west

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    The mashup names are very Amalgam Comics

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  • RadiusRadius Registered User regular
    edited June 26
    I'll never forgive MVCI for not having Thanos do a Raging Demon on Death

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  • The Cow KingThe Cow King scuz me ur under dog arrest Registered User regular
    edited June 26
    Radius wrote: »
    I'll never forgive MVCI for not having Thanos do a Raging Demon on Death

    I want a comic to do what the cowards wouldn't

    And a slightly modified hulk Ryu scene where Ryu rides hulk to the elder dragon piece he catches then kicks Ryu away for momentum to land the mentor while Ryu fires a giant haduken Kamehameha while flying away and having hulk jump away, retrieve the low earth orbit Ryu, then return to T'Challa and monster hunter

    It's a beautiful scene in my mind

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  • Blackbeard7Blackbeard7 Registered User regular
    edited June 26
    i'm still bummed out mvci dropped the ball as hard as it did because I got the character I wanted in sigma and he was extremely good to boot

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  • LarsLars Registered User regular
    Power Rangers: Battle for the Grid is $10 with the sale, and has crossplay with everything. $20 for the Collector's Edition which includes some bonus skins and the Season One pass.

    Season 3 is expected to be released on July 14th.

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  • RadiusRadius Registered User regular
    Wasn't Sigma DLC

    despite being one of the main antagonists

    (not to mention Black Panther and Monster Hunter being in the story mode)

    Good job Capcom, how much negative press did you generate for the same thing in SFxT

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  • Blackbeard7Blackbeard7 Registered User regular
    edited June 26
    the really silly part was how clear it was the dlc characters got a lot more care and attention than most of the main roster

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  • shoeboxjeddyshoeboxjeddy Registered User regular
    Radius wrote: »
    Wasn't Sigma DLC

    despite being one of the main antagonists

    (not to mention Black Panther and Monster Hunter being in the story mode)

    Good job Capcom, how much negative press did you generate for the same thing in SFxT


    ... please take out the on disc DLC characters.

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  • DragkoniasDragkonias Registered User regular
    the really silly part was how clear it was the dlc characters got a lot more care and attention than most of the main roster

    They were even better textured.

  • RadiusRadius Registered User regular
    Really it was a ruined game after they nerfed Gamora lasers

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  • The Cow KingThe Cow King scuz me ur under dog arrest Registered User regular
    edited June 26
    Im liking the game the more I play it I just miss my xmans

    Thank god they put mvc3 on steam tho

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  • Blackbeard7Blackbeard7 Registered User regular
    most problems surrounding the game were not the gameplay itself ironically

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  • vagrant_windsvagrant_winds Overworked Mysterious Eldritch Horror Hunter XX Registered User regular
    MvCI is also a textbook example of fantastic in-combat animation crippled by bland art style and art direction.

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  • PerrsunPerrsun Registered User regular
    For platform fighting fans:
    Rivals of Aether PC will be turning into the Definitive Edition (which includes all of the DLC characters) some time later this summer (alongside a Switch release).

    When it does, if you own the base game you get the upgrade for free, regardless of if you bought DLC characters or not. If you DID buy DLC characters you get a special skin for them that lets you spray paint a customizable tag on the stage.

    If you want everything for cheap, the base game is like $7.50 on Steam during summer sale. Buy now, get the DE free later. The DLC characters are on sale too.

    It’s a super fun game.

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  • vagrant_windsvagrant_winds Overworked Mysterious Eldritch Horror Hunter XX Registered User regular
    If you suicide grab off a cliff for a ring out, it should be a double-KO.

    Just saying.

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  • templewulftemplewulf The Team Chump USARegistered User regular
    If you suicide grab off a cliff for a ring out, it should be a double-KO.

    Just saying.

    Not that you're directing that at any particular person or incident

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  • vagrant_windsvagrant_winds Overworked Mysterious Eldritch Horror Hunter XX Registered User regular
    templewulf wrote: »
    If you suicide grab off a cliff for a ring out, it should be a double-KO.

    Just saying.

    Not that you're directing that at any particular person or incident

    Taki is mean.

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  • BlackDragon480BlackDragon480 Bluster Kerfuffle Master of Windy ImportRegistered User regular
    I remember ring outing myself soooooo many times learning Taki. You've gotta know exactly when you can and can't use the dodge rolls and acrobatics or you'll simply clown yourself.

    First they came for the Muslims and we said...NOT TODAY MOTHERFUCKERS!
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  • DragkoniasDragkonias Registered User regular
    I miss playing SC but I got tired of waiting 5-10 mins for 2 bar connections.

  • templewulftemplewulf The Team Chump USARegistered User regular
    edited June 30
    Dragkonias wrote: »
    I miss playing SC but I got tired of waiting 5-10 mins for 2 bar connections.

    You could do what I do and only play with people on discords I like

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  • P10P10 An Idiot With Low IQ Registered User regular
    edited June 30
    going for rainbow drop ring outs every time its possible is 99% of the fun of playing sc6 yoshimitsu
    same thing with siegfried's flap jack and that one patch where they removed flapjack ringing out was messed up

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  • DragkoniasDragkonias Registered User regular
    Umm...wow.. I've been hearing some very serious claims made about a number of people on Twitter the last couple of weeks.

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  • Blackbeard7Blackbeard7 Registered User regular
    just heard via twitter nuckledu got in a very serious car crash, no details beyond that

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  • BroloBrolo Broseidon Lord of the BroceanRegistered User regular
    jesus i know he was injured a few years ago in one as well, he talked about still going to physio for it

    hope he's okay


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  • BroloBrolo Broseidon Lord of the BroceanRegistered User regular
  • ZxerolZxerol bat tail beaver /w a measuring tape Registered User regular
    Several players and commentators have dropped out as well. Evo 2020 is pretty much washed the fuck out.

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  • Blackbeard7Blackbeard7 Registered User regular


    this whole thing has been a catastrophe

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  • BroloBrolo Broseidon Lord of the BroceanRegistered User regular
    would not be surprised if they just cancel everything

    I wonder if it will survive into 2021

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  • Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver Registered User, ClubPA regular
    Holy shit

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  • ThatDudeOverThereThatDudeOverThere Clock King Registered User regular


    boldest move of the bunch, this was gonna be their big break

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  • ph blakeph blake Registered User regular
    Wiz tweeted an apology that I don't feel like posting here cause what's the point.

    Very generic "I'm sorry, I was young and stupid and an trying to be better now" type shit.

    I already didn't expect Evo to be back next year, but now I'm basically certain it's done. And honestly? Good. Blow it up and start over with new leadership and since actual fucking accountability, instead of a tournament run by someone who is only important cause they were the first.

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