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  • VyolynceVyolynce Registered User regular
    edited October 2019
    Since it began airing on the Network, a black man has never held the NXT title

    Depending on your racial definitions Kofi was either the second or first (if The Rock being "half-black" doesn't count for whatever reason) to hold the actual WWE Title. In the history of the company.

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  • XehalusXehalus Registered User regular
    Mark Henry and Ron Simmons held it

  • ReynoldsReynolds Gone Fishin'Registered User regular
    That's the other title.

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  • Rorshach KringleRorshach Kringle that crustache life Registered User regular
    the value of which champ you are has been nebulous since the introduction of the world title, so either you gotta include henry and booker t in the conversation, or just leave it solely as the rock being the champ, imo. optics from the outside in just aren't gonna be trained to weigh one title more than the other.

    neither way of looking at it paints a pretty picture, but adding extra technicalities to it is just gonna muddy things up.

    either way, including ron simmons wouldn't work because he was the champ in a whole different company.

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  • ReynoldsReynolds Gone Fishin'Registered User regular
    I think it was just WWE that doesn't consider the other title the 'real' world title, since it came from WCW.

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  • noir_bloodnoir_blood Registered User regular
    I saw ACH's tweets early in the morning and then retweeted them, only to unretweet them a few hours later due to honestly not being sure if it's a work or not. His first tweet definitely doesn't sound like it, but his follow ups have a twinge of work on it. And to make things even more weird, it could potentially have started from a real place and now is going to be transitioned to a work.

    None that excuses this fucking thing of a shirt mind you. Also, I had NO IDEA 'Jordan Myles' was ACH, as I've kinda been out of the loop with NXT.

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  • VyolynceVyolynce Registered User regular
    Reynolds wrote: »
    I think it was just WWE that doesn't consider the other title the 'real' world title, since it came from WCW.

    The title that Henry and Booker T won (in WWE) wasn't the WCW lineage championship. It was created out of thin air (much like the Universal title) after the WCW and WWE ones were unified by Jericho. Brock won the unified title and decided to go exclusive to Smackdown shortly after the first brand split. Raw had no top title, so the World Championship was created and IIRC handed to HHH. It was the same belt (physical object) as the old NWA/WCW title but a completely new championship (imaginary record-keeping).

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  • Sweeney TomSweeney Tom Registered User regular
    edited October 2019
    WWE's official statement to PWInsider https://www.pwinsider.com/ViewArticle.php?id=130815
    Albert Hardie Jr. (aka Jordan Myles) approved this t-shirt for sale. As always, we work collaboratively with all of our performers to develop logos and merchandise designs and get their input and approval before proceeding. This was the same process with Albert, and we responded swiftly once he later requested that the logo/t-shirt be redesigned. No t-shirts were sold.

    Passing the blame onto him and then saying "but hey at least we made no money from it (also you'll never see official proof of this, believe us at our word because we never lie)"

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  • MagellMagell Detroit Machine Guns Fort MyersRegistered User regular
    Very believable considering the terrible quality of their shirts and hearing wrestlers who left mocking the shit shirts they had.

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  • Sweeney TomSweeney Tom Registered User regular
    edited October 2019
    Who wouldn't want the unique NXT shirts
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  • LasbrookLasbrook It takes a lot to make a stew When it comes to me and youRegistered User regular
    It’s been less than a week since Xavier’s surgery and he is already committing food crimes on Instagram.

  • Ms DapperMs Dapper Yuri Librarian Registered User regular
    Who wouldn't want the unique NXT shirts
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    That Xia Li shirt is also pretty dodgy

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  • PwnanObrienPwnanObrien He's right, life sucks. Registered User regular
    I feel like it took as much if not more effort to make those shirts look so poorly designed.

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  • PwnanObrienPwnanObrien He's right, life sucks. Registered User regular
    Also you could pay $27.99 for one of those shirts or pay two dollars and one cent less for this Hayabusa shirt.

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  • ThawmusThawmus +Jackface Registered User regular
    This is why I love David Starr, and he's one of like 3 people I actually follow on Twitter.

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  • KyouguKyougu Registered User regular
    55K is laughably low, but at least the NXT people don't have to spend money on travel expenses, right?

  • BlankZoeBlankZoe Registered User regular
    Kyougu wrote: »
    55K is laughably low, but at least the NXT people don't have to spend money on travel expenses, right?
    Nah they still travel doing house shows

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  • KyouguKyougu Registered User regular
    edited October 2019
    Uhhmm, so going scorch earth is definitely an approach I wasn't expecting.

    It strikes me odd that the email uses the names Triple H and Road Dogg.

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  • Ken OKen O Registered User regular
    I know wrestling is weird with everyone having multiple names and such, but seeing "Triple H attended a meeting" in an email makes me laugh.

    Also I wonder about the NXT contracts. When they were strictly the development brand the pay was supposedly lower but the travel stuff was covered by the company. I wonder if they stopped covering it for those who got the pay bump. Like how it seems like a great thing when you move from hourly to salary only to realize you now work more and make less money.

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  • BlankZoeBlankZoe Registered User regular


    Yeah he ain't holding back and good for him

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  • LockedOnTargetLockedOnTarget Registered User regular
    He’s calling out the Hogan stuff on Twitter now, too.

  • BlankZoeBlankZoe Registered User regular
    He also clarified that what happened was he expressed his discomfort over the design, Baker Landon sent that email and other messages saying that it came from HHH himself and his hands were tied

    Then later, ACH spoke with HHH and when he brought up the issue HHH acted like he had gotten ACH's approval for the shirt

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  • ThawmusThawmus +Jackface Registered User regular
    Kyougu wrote: »
    Uhhmm, so going scorch earth is definitely an approach I wasn't expecting.

    It strikes me odd that the email uses the names Triple H and Road Dogg.

    Many old school wrestlers get really pissy still if you use their real names, and Triple H is especially particular about this.

    Also, using their ring names keeps you from mentally betraying yourself and using their real names in a moment where their ring name is appropriate.


    Kinda like how swearing less makes you less likely to swear on live TV, or in church.

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  • Sweeney TomSweeney Tom Registered User regular
    Casey from SquaredCircleSirens posted this and the latter is definitely a thing I've heard a lot of other people allude to earlier in the month




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  • jonny439jonny439 Registered User regular
    This ACH stuff is terrible. Talent should probably have final say on merchandise or at least Tshirt designs but WWE is going to WWE.

    The response from WWE has been really, really bad I hope ACH can get out of there soon because their response was tone deaf and took no ownership of the issue...

  • MagellMagell Detroit Machine Guns Fort MyersRegistered User regular
  • PwnanObrienPwnanObrien He's right, life sucks. Registered User regular

    BOOM BOOM! He's Chicago's favourite son and the man who has brought the world countless hours of audio, good times and great memories in independent wrestling - Kefin and Jo learn all about Colt Cabana!

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  • KyouguKyougu Registered User regular
    It's deleted now, but ACH called Jay Lethal an Uncle Tom, when tweeting about how he was the only black ROH champion.

  • crwthcrwth THAT'S IT Registered User regular
    i know wwe is bad but i would really like this stable to be real

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  • WeedLordVegetaWeedLordVegeta Registered User regular
    Sami Zayn killed NXT

  • BlankZoeBlankZoe Registered User regular
    Sami Zayn killed NXT
    How dare you

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  • WeedLordVegetaWeedLordVegeta Registered User regular
    I've said this before that the WWE's increasingly desperate attempts to recreate the Summer of Sami are what caused them to have the talent bloat they have now and make NXT feel like a trophy case instead of an actual show

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  • ShadowenShadowen Snores in the morning LoserdomRegistered User regular
    I've said this before that the WWE's increasingly desperate attempts to recreate [momentous event (without understanding the unique conflux of circumstances that allowed for it)] are what caused them to [insert bad business or creative decision]

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  • AlphaRomeroAlphaRomero Registered User regular
    NXT just became a dumping ground for talent WWE didn't want, but didn't want others to have. That's not a knock on the talent, Adam Cole should be a world champ up on the roster with UE and Brock and Cain shouldn't be anywhere at all. But it is what it is, the main roster has who WWE wants, but they need somewhere to stock the people they don't want AEW to have.

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  • Johnny ChopsockyJohnny Chopsocky Scootaloo! We have to cook! Grillin' HaysenburgersRegistered User regular
    Kyougu wrote: »
    It's deleted now, but ACH called Jay Lethal an Uncle Tom, when tweeting about how he was the only black ROH champion.

    For fuck's sake.

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  • LBD_NytetraynLBD_Nytetrayn TorontoRegistered User regular
    Who wouldn't want the unique NXT shirts
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    Are Chelsea Green and Deonna Purrazzo a team or something? Because otherwise...

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