Organichu normally on this project, when not traveling (only travel one day/two weeks or so) I spend maybe 1.5 hours a day on the phone with someone working for me, helping them through something, and maybe average 30 min a day talking through management stuff with someone above me or in an advisory role, and then maybe 30 min Skype chat with people under me helping them through things, 30 min planning shit and writing it down (...that seems high, probably average is 10 min cause sometimes I spend a few hours on project planning and sometimes no time).
At times I am also forced to spend a few hours making powerpoints or a few hours coding, but most times I have to do neither. Today I need to do both and ew. If I do neither, my estimate of time spent engaged in my work looks like it adds up to 2-3 hours—that feels right. I never quite know when those hours will be though so I’m more or less available throughout the day.
I am
Lazy!
Dang
I’m not really marveling at your laziness- just that your situation permits it
I am pretty good at maintaining a productive facade and just straight up lying about how much work I do (without ever taking away credit from the people actually working)
It comes with a little bit of worry that some day someone will notice, but not very much worry
There are people in my position who work more, I think, either out of obligation or because they are slow at getting things done. However I don’t think the amount of work required by my situation adds up to 8 hours a day, usually, therefore I won’t put that time in. Today I should though, or do some today and some over the weekend.
I think if I worked 8 hours a day, 5 days a week, to the genuine best of my ability, I would probably burn out. But moreover, I would be the most productive person at my job by a huge margin.
I don't think I am a spectacular individual. I am not the smartest, fastest, or most capable here. Probably not even close. So I always wonder what the mix is for other people in terms of people wasting time, slacking, being bad at their job, or just being glacially slow at every task.
I think I’m often just reaching the limits of mental exhaustion. I can do a mindless task while listening to a podcast or something but I cannot be making complex, on-task decisions continually for 8 hours a day. At some point my ability to keep going slows to a crawl and I have to be doing it in bursts, I need to stand up and not be looking at my computer screens, etc.
The Science Twitter version of circumcision/tipping is whenever someone tweets that their lab members don't work enough hours and that they won't make it if they don't do 60+ hours a week. You get the gifted scientists who are like ????? why would you ever need more than 60 hours a week and you get the hardworking scientists who are like IF YOU AREN'T WORKING EVERY SINGLE HOUR YOU ARE FALLING BEHIND AND I AM SO BUSY OMG and then you get the really bad people who just think you should work long hours just to keep up appearances and have a labor pissing match
generally grad students fall into the third group and they like to brag to each other how late they work
the majority of them could do with some time management software and some better thinking about their experiments instead of brute forcing and fucking things up over and over
In grad school I def saw phd students sitting in front of a matlab window, adding random transposition operators everywhere trying to get their script to compile and run through random perturbation for multiple days when all that was needed was reading documentation for 5 minutes, writing the formulations out for 10 more minutes to do a dimensionality check, and then changing three characters in their code.
Three characters? Most of the times I've seen that it's one .
The Science Twitter version of circumcision/tipping is whenever someone tweets that their lab members don't work enough hours and that they won't make it if they don't do 60+ hours a week. You get the gifted scientists who are like ????? why would you ever need more than 60 hours a week and you get the hardworking scientists who are like IF YOU AREN'T WORKING EVERY SINGLE HOUR YOU ARE FALLING BEHIND AND I AM SO BUSY OMG and then you get the really bad people who just think you should work long hours just to keep up appearances and have a labor pissing match
generally grad students fall into the third group and they like to brag to each other how late they work
the majority of them could do with some time management software and some better thinking about their experiments instead of brute forcing and fucking things up over and over
In grad school I def saw phd students sitting in front of a matlab window, adding random transposition operators everywhere trying to get their script to compile and run through random perturbation for multiple days when all that was needed was reading documentation for 5 minutes, writing the formulations out for 10 more minutes to do a dimensionality check, and then changing three characters in their code.
one of the hardest parts of technical management for me (in the sense that part of my role is expert knowledge of our systems, hardware, etc in addition to just personnel management) is skirting the line between encouraging questions and an open flow of information vs empowering people so they can stop asking such stupid fucking questions. some people are really brittle and if you point out a solution that is really obvious they get defensive and maybe won't ask questions in the future (and will just do things incorrectly).
i guess in my situation also people just don't care at all so, it's hard to really argue with or combat that
It takes me forever to do anything complicated! Everyone who I’ve talked to who went through the bootcamp thing said it took them ages to get productive
The Science Twitter version of circumcision/tipping is whenever someone tweets that their lab members don't work enough hours and that they won't make it if they don't do 60+ hours a week. You get the gifted scientists who are like ????? why would you ever need more than 60 hours a week and you get the hardworking scientists who are like IF YOU AREN'T WORKING EVERY SINGLE HOUR YOU ARE FALLING BEHIND AND I AM SO BUSY OMG and then you get the really bad people who just think you should work long hours just to keep up appearances and have a labor pissing match
generally grad students fall into the third group and they like to brag to each other how late they work
the majority of them could do with some time management software and some better thinking about their experiments instead of brute forcing and fucking things up over and over
In grad school I def saw phd students sitting in front of a matlab window, adding random transposition operators everywhere trying to get their script to compile and run through random perturbation for multiple days when all that was needed was reading documentation for 5 minutes, writing the formulations out for 10 more minutes to do a dimensionality check, and then changing three characters in their code.
I often find junior techs going through long, arduous troubleshooting processes for things that would be very simple if they just remembered their fundamentals. Isolate your variables, check the logs.
Feral on
every person who doesn't like an acquired taste always seems to think everyone who likes it is faking it. it should be an official fallacy.
Academics are the absolute fucking worst at time management because the entire sector has the idea engrained that YOU ARE YOUR JOB, IF YOU ARE NOT DOING YOUR JOB AT ALL TIMES YOU ARE BETRAYING THE ACADEMY, SLEEP IS FOR THE WEAK WHEN YOU COULD BE BEING ACADEMIC, TAKE ON MORE UNPAID WORK SO YOU CAN BE A BETTER ACADEMIC
and it's just, like, holy shit, get a hobby and allow yourself a fucking break, Jesus
The 24/7/365 model of the ideal academic is an incredibly unhealthy goal and a fast track to mental burnout for the overwhelming majority of the population
Academics are the absolute fucking worst at time management because the entire sector has the idea engrained that YOU ARE YOUR JOB, IF YOU ARE NOT DOING YOUR JOB AT ALL TIMES YOU ARE BETRAYING THE ACADEMY, SLEEP IS FOR THE WEAK WHEN YOU COULD BE BEING ACADEMIC, TAKE ON MORE UNPAID WORK SO YOU CAN BE A BETTER ACADEMIC
and it's just, like, holy shit, get a hobby and allow yourself a fucking break, Jesus
The 24/7/365 model of the ideal academic is an incredibly unhealthy goal and a fast track to mental burnout for the overwhelming majority of the population
pretty much the only ones that seem to survive it and rise to the top are
A) sociopaths frauds who faked it all to get ahead
oops lol
+2
Donkey KongPutting Nintendo out of business with AI nipsRegistered Userregular
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Captain Jean Luc Picard
there are only 8 matrix operations in this code, with 2 operands each.
Ok that's only 16 possible transpositions and 8 multiplication order swaps for a total of... 16.7 million combinations...
fuck
if I get started right away and never stop and never sleep and get lucky, I could finish within a few months!
ok let's go!
Donkey Kong on
Thousands of hot, local singles are waiting to play at bubbulon.com.
Academics are the absolute fucking worst at time management because the entire sector has the idea engrained that YOU ARE YOUR JOB, IF YOU ARE NOT DOING YOUR JOB AT ALL TIMES YOU ARE BETRAYING THE ACADEMY, SLEEP IS FOR THE WEAK WHEN YOU COULD BE BEING ACADEMIC, TAKE ON MORE UNPAID WORK SO YOU CAN BE A BETTER ACADEMIC
and it's just, like, holy shit, get a hobby and allow yourself a fucking break, Jesus
The 24/7/365 model of the ideal academic is an incredibly unhealthy goal and a fast track to mental burnout for the overwhelming majority of the population
pretty much the only ones that seem to survive it and rise to the top are
A) sociopaths frauds who faked it all to get ahead
oops lol
Academics are the absolute fucking worst at time management because the entire sector has the idea engrained that YOU ARE YOUR JOB, IF YOU ARE NOT DOING YOUR JOB AT ALL TIMES YOU ARE BETRAYING THE ACADEMY, SLEEP IS FOR THE WEAK WHEN YOU COULD BE BEING ACADEMIC, TAKE ON MORE UNPAID WORK SO YOU CAN BE A BETTER ACADEMIC
and it's just, like, holy shit, get a hobby and allow yourself a fucking break, Jesus
The 24/7/365 model of the ideal academic is an incredibly unhealthy goal and a fast track to mental burnout for the overwhelming majority of the population
pretty much the only ones that seem to survive it and rise to the top are
A) sociopaths frauds who faked it all to get ahead
oops lol
*looks at corporate america*
Is it weird that I find such a cutthroat environment more understandable in the corporate world? The pay in academia is nowhere good enough to justify the sheer level of masochism that it encourages.
It's a fucking bizarre sector and I'm trying to remember that as I spend more time in it.
Academics are the absolute fucking worst at time management because the entire sector has the idea engrained that YOU ARE YOUR JOB, IF YOU ARE NOT DOING YOUR JOB AT ALL TIMES YOU ARE BETRAYING THE ACADEMY, SLEEP IS FOR THE WEAK WHEN YOU COULD BE BEING ACADEMIC, TAKE ON MORE UNPAID WORK SO YOU CAN BE A BETTER ACADEMIC
and it's just, like, holy shit, get a hobby and allow yourself a fucking break, Jesus
The 24/7/365 model of the ideal academic is an incredibly unhealthy goal and a fast track to mental burnout for the overwhelming majority of the population
pretty much the only ones that seem to survive it and rise to the top are
A) sociopaths frauds who faked it all to get ahead
oops lol
*looks at corporate america*
Is it weird that I find such a cutthroat environment more understandable in the corporate world? The pay in academia is nowhere good enough to justify the sheer level of masochism that it encourages.
It's a fucking bizarre sector and I'm trying to remember that as I spend more time in it.
im slowly becoming A) and i don;t like it
but also i am tired of being exploited and pushed around by asshats so im starting to be a bit more strong
+1
ChanusHarbinger of the Spicy Rooster ApocalypseThe Flames of a Thousand Collapsed StarsRegistered Userregular
except the part where herbie hancock says basically his entire sound evolved out of misunderstanding advice miles davis gave him, thinking he told him not to play the "butter notes" and having no idea what that meant (because it's nonsense) so just trying to figure it out for himself
i wish one of you white collar friends would just found a company or something so you could hire me. i've been cynically told that cronyism rules the world, why can't i be someone's crony
The kind of people who start companies don't really agree that employees can slack and work 20 h weeks and still be totally productive
i could happily work like 32-36 hour weeks and only slack occasionally and i'd get paid a lot more and not get called a fat gay slur for not accepting coupons
How about you do 40 official hours and another 20 to get it right unpaid in an open office with all these nice things you don't have time to use.
Academics are the absolute fucking worst at time management because the entire sector has the idea engrained that YOU ARE YOUR JOB, IF YOU ARE NOT DOING YOUR JOB AT ALL TIMES YOU ARE BETRAYING THE ACADEMY, SLEEP IS FOR THE WEAK WHEN YOU COULD BE BEING ACADEMIC, TAKE ON MORE UNPAID WORK SO YOU CAN BE A BETTER ACADEMIC
and it's just, like, holy shit, get a hobby and allow yourself a fucking break, Jesus
The 24/7/365 model of the ideal academic is an incredibly unhealthy goal and a fast track to mental burnout for the overwhelming majority of the population
pretty much the only ones that seem to survive it and rise to the top are
A) sociopaths frauds who faked it all to get ahead
oops lol
*looks at corporate america*
Is it weird that I find such a cutthroat environment more understandable in the corporate world? The pay in academia is nowhere good enough to justify the sheer level of masochism that it encourages.
It's a fucking bizarre sector and I'm trying to remember that as I spend more time in it.
It's extremely competitive because of limited resources, and just due to the nature of science funding that competition is all social/by reputation, so doing things simply for the point of projecting your worth is going to happen a lot.
the thing that really upset me at work yesterday: first of all, there was no closing manager scheduled (in the sense of like, salaried upper management rather than me, an hourly departmental manager). no one told me that. then when the final salaried manager left for the day, he didn't tell me. so i'm in charge of the whole store and not aware of it, which is great. i've received an email saying 'they're resetting the lean cuisine freezers, the doors will be open for a while (with no product), once they replace them the temp alarm might go off. just acknowledge, it'll take some time for it to cool down'. the alarm goes off, i acknowledge. i continue monitoring the freezers, and the temp isn't coming down quickly enough. they're now full of hundreds and hundreds of boxes of product that's supposed to be frozen. the freezer is supposed to be below 12 degrees fahrenheit, but even allowing for 32 degrees it's still way higher. it's over 60 degrees in parts of this freezer, by internal sensor and my manual IR thermometer checks. i call this guy who dipped out early, ask him.
'oh, you could just put caution tape over the doors so no one opens them for a while. it should come down in temp eventually.'
'uh...? it's been a couple hours already. isn't our standard 4 hours above 'safe temp' and we have to discard the product? this isn't coming down quickly. the fan's barely working. i'm almost certain this is going to take more than 4 hours to go below freezing. should i just pull the product and move it to a backroom freezer?'
'do you think you need to?' (this said in a shitty voice. he's loath to authorize this because backroom walk-in freezers are at a premium for space and we'll be getting a delivery tonight)
'i don't know. that is my preference. i am a front end manager. i only received cursory training on this. i'm asking you to authorize a decision. i can just leave the doors closed, and tape them off, but you need to authorize that.'
'well, you're the man on the scene *verbal shrug*'
you. are. a. salaried. manager. your job title is assistant store manager in charge of merchandising. i'm talking about potentially throwing out over a thousand dollars worth of merchandise. there is no one in this store of 165 employees whose job this is more exactly than it is yours.
it is very clear he just doesn't want to stand by a decision so he can go oh i told john to use his best judgment, if something goes wrong (either this disrupts the frozen delivery later that night if i take up walk-in freezer space with all these tv dinners, or this shit has to be thrown out because the freezer doesn't come back to temp quickly enough). and yet they have not given me the training to make that decision- this is all on-the-job shit i figured out myself by listening to people who work in the grocery department, and trying to be cautious with our product costs and with customer's food safety. so fucking frustrating.
finally i just said ok i'll take care of it! thanks for all your help!! and hung up on him. i pulled all ten freezer doors and then was vindicated when i went home at midnight and saw that even with no product in there it was still 40 degrees, and coming down very slowly/not at all. i assume the vendors who were resetting those freezers fucked something up, or the door being open for so long partially iced over the compressor vents. not sure. but if i would have just taken his first suggestion- very much given as a 'you could always just...' without him actually claiming it as his decision that i could stand behind- we would have been selling unsafe product and had to throw a ton of merchandise into the garbage.
except the part where herbie hancock says basically his entire sound evolved out of misunderstanding advice miles davis gave him, thinking he told him not to play the "butter notes" and having no idea what that meant (because it's nonsense) so just trying to figure it out for himself
amazing
I've learned so many skills by ignoring what people are trying to teach me and just fucking around by myself
every person who doesn't like an acquired taste always seems to think everyone who likes it is faking it. it should be an official fallacy.
the "no true scotch man" fallacy.
+1
Powerpuppiesdrinking coffee in themountain cabinRegistered Userregular
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Amazing that there's just no consequences for that.
I dunno if that guy should lose his job for that but it's definitely into "do it twice and you get fired" territory
'Chu are you still in the grocery biz? Could you at least transfer to a different company like Trader Joes or something where people seem to mostly enjoy working their even if it's still a grocery store?
you should be aggressive with him and explain that if he doesn't come up with a solution right now then you will be explaining to the GM that he didn't decide what to do and that is why the product got destroyed
you should be aggressive with him and explain that if he doesn't come up with a solution right now then you will be explaining to the GM that he didn't decide what to do and that is why the product got destroyed
a move like that only has a chance of working if you're sure the GM likes you more than the other guy
Allegedly a voice of reason.
+4
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the thing that really upset me at work yesterday: first of all, there was no closing manager scheduled (in the sense of like, salaried upper management rather than me, a salaried departmental manager). no one told me that. then when the final salaried manager left for the day, he didn't tell me. so i'm in charge of the whole store and not aware of it, which is great. i've received an email saying 'they're resetting the lean cuisine freezers, the doors will be open for a while (with no product), once they replace them the temp alarm might go off. just acknowledge, it'll take some time for it to cool down'. the alarm goes off, i acknowledge. i continue monitoring the freezers, and the temp isn't coming down quickly enough. they're now full of hundreds and hundreds of boxes of product that's supposed to be frozen. the freezer is supposed to be below 12 degrees fahrenheit, but even allowing for 32 degrees it's still way higher. it's over 60 degrees in parts of this freezer, by internal sensor and my manual IR thermometer checks. i call this guy who dipped out early, ask him.
'oh, you could just put caution tape over the doors so no one opens them for a while. it should come down in temp eventually.'
'uh...? it's been a couple hours already. isn't our standard 4 hours above 'safe temp' and we have to discard the product? this isn't coming down quickly. the fan's barely working. i'm almost certain this is going to take more than 4 hours to go below freezing. should i just pull the product and move it to a backroom freezer?'
'do you think you need to?' (this said in a shitty voice. he's loath to authorize this because backroom walk-in freezers are at a premium for space and we'll be getting a delivery tonight)
'i don't know. that is my preference. i am a front end manager. i only received cursory training on this. i'm asking you to authorize a decision. i can just leave the doors closed, and tape them off, but you need to authorize that.'
'well, you're the man on the scene *verbal shrug*'
you. are. a. salaried. manager. your job title is assistant store manager in charge of merchandising. i'm talking about potentially throwing out over a thousand dollars worth of merchandise. there is no one in this store of 165 employees whose job this is more exactly than it is yours.
it is very clear he just doesn't want to stand by a decision so he can go oh i told john to use his best judgment, if something goes wrong (either this disrupts the frozen delivery later that night if i take up walk-in freezer space with all these tv dinners, or this shit has to be thrown out because the freezer doesn't come back to temp quickly enough). and yet they have not given me the training to make that decision- this is all on-the-job shit i figured out myself by listening to people who work in the grocery department, and trying to be cautious with our product costs and with customer's food safety. so fucking frustrating.
finally i just said ok i'll take care of it! thanks for all your help!! and hung up on him. i pulled all ten freezer doors and then was vindicated when i went home at midnight and saw that even with no product in there it was still 40 degrees, and coming down very slowly/not at all. i assume the vendors who were resetting those freezers fucked something up, or the door being open for so long partially iced over the compressor vents. not sure. but if i would have just taken his first suggestion- very much given as a 'you could always just...' without him actually claiming it as his decision that i could stand behind- we would have been selling unsafe product and had to throw a ton of merchandise into the garbage.
hate my job. >(
Yeah, I would have just said, its your thing to handle, I expect an email in the next 15 minutes telling me to pull it, or I'm leaving it all in there. I will be sending an email to you stating this position. Also, I really don't handle that sort of shit well, so I probably wouldn't last that long there.
"I will write your name in the ruin of them. I will paint you across history in the color of their blood."
you should be aggressive with him and explain that if he doesn't come up with a solution right now then you will be explaining to the GM that he didn't decide what to do and that is why the product got destroyed
a move like that only has a chance of working if you're sure the GM likes you more than the other guy
nah people who make avoidance and blame moves like that are inherently cowards and you can cow them into doing it
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ChanusHarbinger of the Spicy Rooster ApocalypseThe Flames of a Thousand Collapsed StarsRegistered Userregular
Captain Jean Luc Picard
being right doesn't mean anything in retail and people often don't actually want you to do the right thing, they want you to do whatever causes them the least responsibility and work
Allegedly a voice of reason.
+11
ChanusHarbinger of the Spicy Rooster ApocalypseThe Flames of a Thousand Collapsed StarsRegistered Userregular
you should be aggressive with him and explain that if he doesn't come up with a solution right now then you will be explaining to the GM that he didn't decide what to do and that is why the product got destroyed
a move like that only has a chance of working if you're sure the GM likes you more than the other guy
nah people who make avoidance and blame moves like that are inherently cowards and you can cow them into doing it
if you don't agree with me right now then you will be explaining to jacob why you didn't and i had to say no u
you should be aggressive with him and explain that if he doesn't come up with a solution right now then you will be explaining to the GM that he didn't decide what to do and that is why the product got destroyed
a move like that only has a chance of working if you're sure the GM likes you more than the other guy
nah people who make avoidance and blame moves like that are inherently cowards and you can cow them into doing it
if you don't agree with me right now then you will be explaining to jacob why you didn't and i had to say no u
i disagree with you! i think chu can push a lot harder and free up some space for him to breathe at work
you should be aggressive with him and explain that if he doesn't come up with a solution right now then you will be explaining to the GM that he didn't decide what to do and that is why the product got destroyed
a move like that only has a chance of working if you're sure the GM likes you more than the other guy
nah people who make avoidance and blame moves like that are inherently cowards and you can cow them into doing it
if you don't agree with me right now then you will be explaining to jacob why you didn't and i had to say no u
i disagree with you! i think chu can push a lot harder and free up some space for him to breathe at work
sorry i am very cynical right now because of how stupid the company i work for is
one more week and i'll be more cheerful
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I think I’m often just reaching the limits of mental exhaustion. I can do a mindless task while listening to a podcast or something but I cannot be making complex, on-task decisions continually for 8 hours a day. At some point my ability to keep going slows to a crawl and I have to be doing it in bursts, I need to stand up and not be looking at my computer screens, etc.
is it really narcissism when you’re the most interesting person around
Three characters? Most of the times I've seen that it's one .
one of the hardest parts of technical management for me (in the sense that part of my role is expert knowledge of our systems, hardware, etc in addition to just personnel management) is skirting the line between encouraging questions and an open flow of information vs empowering people so they can stop asking such stupid fucking questions. some people are really brittle and if you point out a solution that is really obvious they get defensive and maybe won't ask questions in the future (and will just do things incorrectly).
i guess in my situation also people just don't care at all so, it's hard to really argue with or combat that
That's just kind of why we talk, generally
Because we think our experiences might be interesting to someone else
Often they are
It takes me forever to do anything complicated! Everyone who I’ve talked to who went through the bootcamp thing said it took them ages to get productive
Coding is hard T_T
I often find junior techs going through long, arduous troubleshooting processes for things that would be very simple if they just remembered their fundamentals. Isolate your variables, check the logs.
the "no true scotch man" fallacy.
and it's just, like, holy shit, get a hobby and allow yourself a fucking break, Jesus
The 24/7/365 model of the ideal academic is an incredibly unhealthy goal and a fast track to mental burnout for the overwhelming majority of the population
A) sociopaths
frauds who faked it all to get ahead
oops lol
Ok that's only 16 possible transpositions and 8 multiplication order swaps for a total of... 16.7 million combinations...
fuck
if I get started right away and never stop and never sleep and get lucky, I could finish within a few months!
ok let's go!
*looks at corporate america*
please, imagine the ghost town this place would be if we all felt we had to wait for someone to ask about our experiences before talking
Is it weird that I find such a cutthroat environment more understandable in the corporate world? The pay in academia is nowhere good enough to justify the sheer level of masochism that it encourages.
It's a fucking bizarre sector and I'm trying to remember that as I spend more time in it.
but also i am tired of being exploited and pushed around by asshats so im starting to be a bit more strong
this is kinda neat, not mind blowing
except the part where herbie hancock says basically his entire sound evolved out of misunderstanding advice miles davis gave him, thinking he told him not to play the "butter notes" and having no idea what that meant (because it's nonsense) so just trying to figure it out for himself
amazing
How about you do 40 official hours and another 20 to get it right unpaid in an open office with all these nice things you don't have time to use.
But the last thing won't happen.
It's extremely competitive because of limited resources, and just due to the nature of science funding that competition is all social/by reputation, so doing things simply for the point of projecting your worth is going to happen a lot.
'oh, you could just put caution tape over the doors so no one opens them for a while. it should come down in temp eventually.'
'uh...? it's been a couple hours already. isn't our standard 4 hours above 'safe temp' and we have to discard the product? this isn't coming down quickly. the fan's barely working. i'm almost certain this is going to take more than 4 hours to go below freezing. should i just pull the product and move it to a backroom freezer?'
'do you think you need to?' (this said in a shitty voice. he's loath to authorize this because backroom walk-in freezers are at a premium for space and we'll be getting a delivery tonight)
'i don't know. that is my preference. i am a front end manager. i only received cursory training on this. i'm asking you to authorize a decision. i can just leave the doors closed, and tape them off, but you need to authorize that.'
'well, you're the man on the scene *verbal shrug*'
you. are. a. salaried. manager. your job title is assistant store manager in charge of merchandising. i'm talking about potentially throwing out over a thousand dollars worth of merchandise. there is no one in this store of 165 employees whose job this is more exactly than it is yours.
it is very clear he just doesn't want to stand by a decision so he can go oh i told john to use his best judgment, if something goes wrong (either this disrupts the frozen delivery later that night if i take up walk-in freezer space with all these tv dinners, or this shit has to be thrown out because the freezer doesn't come back to temp quickly enough). and yet they have not given me the training to make that decision- this is all on-the-job shit i figured out myself by listening to people who work in the grocery department, and trying to be cautious with our product costs and with customer's food safety. so fucking frustrating.
finally i just said ok i'll take care of it! thanks for all your help!! and hung up on him. i pulled all ten freezer doors and then was vindicated when i went home at midnight and saw that even with no product in there it was still 40 degrees, and coming down very slowly/not at all. i assume the vendors who were resetting those freezers fucked something up, or the door being open for so long partially iced over the compressor vents. not sure. but if i would have just taken his first suggestion- very much given as a 'you could always just...' without him actually claiming it as his decision that i could stand behind- we would have been selling unsafe product and had to throw a ton of merchandise into the garbage.
hate my job. >(
I've learned so many skills by ignoring what people are trying to teach me and just fucking around by myself
the "no true scotch man" fallacy.
I dunno if that guy should lose his job for that but it's definitely into "do it twice and you get fired" territory
@Fuzzy Cumulonimbus Cloud it is interesting and also that is how chat works! We contribute a lot by sharing anecdotes.
also whenever I read about your life in the lab I'm like there but for the grace of god go I, so I like having that perspective
a move like that only has a chance of working if you're sure the GM likes you more than the other guy
Yeah, I would have just said, its your thing to handle, I expect an email in the next 15 minutes telling me to pull it, or I'm leaving it all in there. I will be sending an email to you stating this position. Also, I really don't handle that sort of shit well, so I probably wouldn't last that long there.
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if you don't agree with me right now then you will be explaining to jacob why you didn't and i had to say no u
not like i worked retail for years or anything
8-)
sorry i am very cynical right now because of how stupid the company i work for is
one more week and i'll be more cheerful
sorry the yogurt cooler was full and the lean cuisine one was empty so i just threw them in there
Looks like I know what I'm doing with my weekend.
fair