Any warrior at 40 rolling on mail is doing it wrong. They ought to have pre bought some nice plate on the AH in preparation. Enhance shaman have issues with hunters needing the same stats, but caster mail is really hard to find sometimes.
or you're a DPS warrior, and it's got good stats on it... there was no stat incentive other than damage reduction to wear all your "correct" armor type until partway through Wrath. I believe the BIS warrior hands are a pair of world drop mail gloves because they have +5 weapon skill on them.
e: pardon, +7 weapon skill https://classic.wowhead.com/item=14551/edgemasters-handguards
Ahaha. According to the comments weapon skill got nerfed sometime in 1.12.1 just to make this level 44 item not a 7.8% DPS increase by itself for level 60s. I suppose that fix is probably already in Classic.
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or you're a DPS warrior, and it's got good stats on it... there was no stat incentive other than damage reduction to wear all your "correct" armor type until partway through Wrath. I believe the BIS warrior hands are a pair of world drop mail gloves because they have +5 weapon skill on them.
This and I don't really think anyone is going to be purchasing plate gear off the AH on their way to 40 instead of saving for their mount.
I also don't really mind a warrior or hunter rolling need on them, I'm just tired of the group comps.
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Just hammering the point home.
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I've noticed that on the WoW forums there are a bunch of Blizzard posts confirming that things are indeed bugs and will be fixed in a hotfix. But they don't post patch notes, so it's hard to know if a fix has gone out already.
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I really hate cathedral. The drop rates are trash. Between levels 38 to 41 I've done 13 or 14 cathedral runs and I've seen the gloves and 2h mace drop once each. Lost the gloves to a hunter that couldn't equip them yet and the 2h mace just now to the tank.
I want to move on from cath but that mace is my next weapon upgrade until 45 and the gloves seem really strong.
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It was impossible to sell the Edgemasters gauntlets in WoW for even like, ten gold.
Blows my mind how little people knew about the game.
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Funny thing is I remember knowing exactly what they did, but not realizing how much output they added.
Oh man, I mained Tauren Warrior during Vanilla and you guys are bringing back incredible memories. I remember being furry (edit: was gonna fix this to "fury" but it's funny so I won't) warrior in MC with some leather and mail because of those stats.
We all looked like psychotic clowns until we got a full tier of any particular set. Hilarious.
I definitely enjoyed then and enjoy now, just questing and exploring and crafting and dungeon crawls and hunting down alliance in Barrens or Hillsbrad, even if they were skulls and you were just bandaging a higher level horde or futilely trying to hamstring a skull alliance ganker.
No need to rush towards the endgame. Though playing warlock for the first time, I enjoy dinging just to check out new pets/ spells/ talents.
I do miss having most of my buddies around the same level and doing all of this as a group most of the time. I have been impressed with both random groups and the occasional guild group. Most people seem *gasp* mature and chill and helpful.
Now, how the hell do I keep playing consistently with two elementary kids, two jobs, working wife, etc.? No idea. Gonna have to figure that one out.
I think the takeaways on world first Ragnaros meaning everything is viable is... completely backwards?
"Rag is trivial" uhhh more like "pserver players that have been doing this for a long time and preparing extensively for the WF credit, who optimize their composition to fit a low-gear MC, can execute well and clear MC."
Rag and maybe Geddon aside MC is not and never was difficult
I think more people tended to die on shazzrah than anyone else from what i remember. Geddon was basically a meme and people didnt generally stay in the raid when it was like 10s of people yelling their name in vent.
I'm kind of sad that I wasn't fast enough to profit off the original wave of devilsaur sales, but plenty enough people are still leveling and will want them in the coming weeks
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I just did a 100% BRD run at level 53 as a resto shaman (everyone else was 55 with a 60 tank)
it took 3 hours and i pretty much upgraded every single slot (got the BiS healing mace from the relic coffer)
my encyclopedic knowledge of the instance paid off and I managed to herd everyone around clearing quests, and after a break to port everyone back to Org to pick up the rescue Moira quest we summoned them back and smashed it
shaman healing is pretty fun (stack together and spam rank 1 chain heal while drinking heavily both ingame and IRL)
Today I had the idea that I should get to at least friendly with Thorium Brotherhood. It wasn't until after I had farmed all the incendosaur scales I'd need to hit friendly that I looked up what the actual rewards are and saw that they only have a single alchemy recipe and it won't even be available until phase 5.
I guess Thorium Brotherhood rep might be useful if you've got blacksmithing, tailoring or leatherworking, but I don't.
The weapon skill thing makes me realize why the Devilsaur gloves at BiS for Warriors/Enhancement Shaman then instead of the Edgemaster's Handguards.
That's honestly kind of disappointing in a way. I know it does essentially mean you're given more choice cause Orc/Human aren't automatically some of the best choices for melee. But it also means their +weapon skill racials aren't as useful anymore.
I'm kind of sad that I wasn't fast enough to profit off the original wave of devilsaur sales, but plenty enough people are still leveling and will want them in the coming weeks
We nolifed hard for 10 days (took time off work and everything) to get there and yet had a bunch of competition. Farmed up our 44 right before Horde started monopolizing on Fairbanks. Made my brother's set and then turned mine into 400 gold. Bought back the 22 pieces for 220 and started flipping sets. That lasted for about a week.
Now I get 15-20g profit off each piece, which takes a while to sell. It's still lucrative but not the serious moneymaker it was.
Think I'm set on buying a Warden Staff. I'll be tanking UBRS in no time. Then it's the slog toward BIS gear on a spec that everyone underappreciates.
I hadn't been bothering with lockboxes and even threw one away at some point, but I just got a thorium lockbox opened and it had a traveller's backpack in it. I tipped the rogue that opened it 50s.
I'm only lv27 and I'm halfway to my mount. It's kind of easy if you plan for it from the start. I don't buy spells I'm not going to use (slowfall, fire spells, frost nova past rank 1, etc), I vendor all trash that I can't immediately use. I turn all cloth into bandages to vendor.
I also literally kill everything I can when traveling.
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I always thought it was. But then again, Vanilla had a way of making the majority of the dungeon like 3-4 levels lower than the last boss or two. I think the final boss might be 60.
Still, you can heal places like that pretty low. I think the only dungeon you really should be 60 for to heal is UBRS
Level-wise, it should go, BRD>>LBRS>>UBRS. If you can do most or all of BRD, you should be good for LBRS. At least most of it, anyway. I would highly advise getting your UBRS key quest, because you want to be in control of when and how you get into UBRS rather than paying for an unlock by a rogue or needing somebody with the key in LFG.
LBRS is mid 50s, but being level 54 means that you have to grind every mob pack. at level 58? i believe you can wall hug to avoid about 1hr worth of mob packs.
its almost suicide to jump down the cliff to the fireclan? orcs and do the boss run path because you are gonna pull 2 or 3 camps along with a patrol.
a boss run starts at the dragonkin boss (final boss) and then you fall down to the ogre and troll. run time, about 1.5hours.
If you run through LBRS the proper way, its about 3.5hours long.
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e: pardon, +7 weapon skill https://classic.wowhead.com/item=14551/edgemasters-handguards
Ahaha. According to the comments weapon skill got nerfed sometime in 1.12.1 just to make this level 44 item not a 7.8% DPS increase by itself for level 60s. I suppose that fix is probably already in Classic.
This and I don't really think anyone is going to be purchasing plate gear off the AH on their way to 40 instead of saving for their mount.
I also don't really mind a warrior or hunter rolling need on them, I'm just tired of the group comps.
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The best gauntlets in the game for warriors are mail
I want to move on from cath but that mace is my next weapon upgrade until 45 and the gloves seem really strong.
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the devilsaur gauntlets are also highly popular for pre-raid too
Blows my mind how little people knew about the game.
We all looked like psychotic clowns until we got a full tier of any particular set. Hilarious.
I definitely enjoyed then and enjoy now, just questing and exploring and crafting and dungeon crawls and hunting down alliance in Barrens or Hillsbrad, even if they were skulls and you were just bandaging a higher level horde or futilely trying to hamstring a skull alliance ganker.
No need to rush towards the endgame. Though playing warlock for the first time, I enjoy dinging just to check out new pets/ spells/ talents.
I do miss having most of my buddies around the same level and doing all of this as a group most of the time. I have been impressed with both random groups and the occasional guild group. Most people seem *gasp* mature and chill and helpful.
Now, how the hell do I keep playing consistently with two elementary kids, two jobs, working wife, etc.? No idea. Gonna have to figure that one out.
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Rag and maybe Geddon aside MC is not and never was difficult
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Herding cats, etc.
When a group has played together before on private servers, there's no issue
-Mats for a Devilsaur set (I've been making/flipping them for profit to get here) + Warden Staff
Or
-Epic Mount
The Devilsaur racket has plunged in profitability so I don't think I'll be getting both any time soon
This is literally the hardest choice a beartank could make
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I'm 30 right now and I'm probably going to skip a *regular* mount so I can get a warden staff faster lol.
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it took 3 hours and i pretty much upgraded every single slot (got the BiS healing mace from the relic coffer)
my encyclopedic knowledge of the instance paid off and I managed to herd everyone around clearing quests, and after a break to port everyone back to Org to pick up the rescue Moira quest we summoned them back and smashed it
shaman healing is pretty fun (stack together and spam rank 1 chain heal while drinking heavily both ingame and IRL)
I guess Thorium Brotherhood rep might be useful if you've got blacksmithing, tailoring or leatherworking, but I don't.
The weapon skill thing makes me realize why the Devilsaur gloves at BiS for Warriors/Enhancement Shaman then instead of the Edgemaster's Handguards.
That's honestly kind of disappointing in a way. I know it does essentially mean you're given more choice cause Orc/Human aren't automatically some of the best choices for melee. But it also means their +weapon skill racials aren't as useful anymore.
We nolifed hard for 10 days (took time off work and everything) to get there and yet had a bunch of competition. Farmed up our 44 right before Horde started monopolizing on Fairbanks. Made my brother's set and then turned mine into 400 gold. Bought back the 22 pieces for 220 and started flipping sets. That lasted for about a week.
Now I get 15-20g profit off each piece, which takes a while to sell. It's still lucrative but not the serious moneymaker it was.
Think I'm set on buying a Warden Staff. I'll be tanking UBRS in no time. Then it's the slog toward BIS gear on a spec that everyone underappreciates.
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I also literally kill everything I can when traveling.
So I’m training both schools and have to respec
I have 3 gold
Still, you can heal places like that pretty low. I think the only dungeon you really should be 60 for to heal is UBRS
LBRS is mid 50s, but being level 54 means that you have to grind every mob pack. at level 58? i believe you can wall hug to avoid about 1hr worth of mob packs.
its almost suicide to jump down the cliff to the fireclan? orcs and do the boss run path because you are gonna pull 2 or 3 camps along with a patrol.
a boss run starts at the dragonkin boss (final boss) and then you fall down to the ogre and troll. run time, about 1.5hours.
If you run through LBRS the proper way, its about 3.5hours long.
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