The point I fell off the mcelroys was when I went to one of their live shows and realized that positioning themselves as good people with an advice podcast was a mistake. This was when they weren’t screening questions yet.
During this show, there was an nb teen (I think they had just graduated high school) who had recently decided to enter into a poly relationship, and they were asking how best to tell their family, who if I recall was conservative and would likely not approve. And of course the brothers squirmed a little bit and told them that they were strong and they should live their life the way they want and so on. But here’s this kid genuinely looking for help pouring their heart out to these three dudes who absolutely are not in a position to give this advice.
It became a lot harder to listen to their stuff frequently after that.
Oofa doofa, this is a rough one
Their entire schtick is that they give bad advice that people shouldn't take
I used to do a regular thing that had audience Q&A and it was the most hellish thing to endure every time. Like often there were people with really solid and interesting questions that brought the conversation along to interesting places but I knew that every so often I would have to hear someone just be the biggest asshole and then get on mic and tell them off and calm the audience and it always kept me tense.
The MBMBaM live episodes certainly got infinitely more listenable after they started screening questions, because the open mic thing wasn't even all that great before TAZ accidentally became the new Homestuck.
I love TAZ and all, but that is a bold claim.
You know what? Nanowrimo's cancelled on account of the world is stupid.
The MBMBaM live episodes certainly got infinitely more listenable after they started screening questions, because the open mic thing wasn't even all that great before TAZ accidentally became the new Homestuck.
I love TAZ and all, but that is a bold claim.
Its not a crazy comparison
Its a podcast that turned into a multimedia empire (games, comics, sourcebooks) based in large part on fan interaction
One of the things that turned me off the TAZ fandom (besides, you know, not really being into fandoms as A Thing in general) was the weird steadfast insistence on canonicity in character appearances
I know this isn't specific to TAZ but seeing the discourse around folks screaming at each other online for portraying Taako as... like, blue and not green, was weird
One of the things that turned me off the TAZ fandom (besides, you know, not really being into fandoms as A Thing in general) was the weird steadfast insistence on canonicity in character appearances
I know this isn't specific to TAZ but seeing the discourse around folks screaming at each other online for portraying Taako as... like, blue and not green, was weird
Yyyyyyeah and the bros didn't really do a good job with it
They simultaneously said all visual interpretations are valid but then went with pretty much exactly the popular representations for the comic
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I fell off TAZ and will go back eventually, as I fell off MBMBaM and will go back eventually. It's a mood thing, and when I do go back I'm sure I'll enjoy it
About half of the queer folks I know love the brothers, and the other half (mostly here) are exasperated at best. I agree with Speed that I don't think they're hearing criticism as well anymore now that they're surrounded by a significantly large crowd that loves them, but I also don't think they're unwilling to hear it, it's just drowned out
And I do find Travis irritating and performative, but I find a few people irritating and performative and I still consider them fundamentally good people, so y'know
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Also I'll probably have to subscribe to the We Hate Movies patreon sometime this month to get the full Spooktacular experience, because this is my favorite time of year for that podcast
The Gleep Glossary and the Nexus are both very good content, but more than Star Wars or Star Trek, I just naturally associate those dudes with horror movies
One of the things that turned me off the TAZ fandom (besides, you know, not really being into fandoms as A Thing in general) was the weird steadfast insistence on canonicity in character appearances
I know this isn't specific to TAZ but seeing the discourse around folks screaming at each other online for portraying Taako as... like, blue and not green, was weird
Yyyyyyeah and the bros didn't really do a good job with it
They simultaneously said all visual interpretations are valid but then went with pretty much exactly the popular representations for the comic
...green? I feel like all the TAZ fanart the algorithm (wrongly) things I want to see is dark skinned taako.
One of the things that turned me off the TAZ fandom (besides, you know, not really being into fandoms as A Thing in general) was the weird steadfast insistence on canonicity in character appearances
I know this isn't specific to TAZ but seeing the discourse around folks screaming at each other online for portraying Taako as... like, blue and not green, was weird
Yyyyyyeah and the bros didn't really do a good job with it
They simultaneously said all visual interpretations are valid but then went with pretty much exactly the popular representations for the comic
...green? I feel like all the TAZ fanart the algorithm (wrongly) things I want to see is dark skinned taako.
It's a bad joke but there was a very uncomfortable in hindsight portion of the Monster Factory: Second Life, Second Chances bit where they visited a pro-Trump Second Life island and put on Trump merch.
That was pretty jarring, going back and rewatching the Monster Factory archive.
It's a bad joke but there was a very uncomfortable in hindsight portion of the Monster Factory: Second Life, Second Chances bit where they visited a pro-Trump Second Life island and put on Trump merch.
That was pretty jarring, going back and rewatching the Monster Factory archive.
Jesus Christ was that really that long ago
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Also I'll probably have to subscribe to the We Hate Movies patreon sometime this month to get the full Spooktacular experience, because this is my favorite time of year for that podcast
The Gleep Glossary and the Nexus are both very good content, but more than Star Wars or Star Trek, I just naturally associate those dudes with horror movies
I really hope we never find a reason to hate We Hate Movies, I enjoy their work.
Also I'll probably have to subscribe to the We Hate Movies patreon sometime this month to get the full Spooktacular experience, because this is my favorite time of year for that podcast
The Gleep Glossary and the Nexus are both very good content, but more than Star Wars or Star Trek, I just naturally associate those dudes with horror movies
I really hope we never find a reason to hate We Hate Movies, I enjoy their work.
There was a whole kerfuffle with Eric where he went after people unfairly for wishing they'd stop the trump impression
I’m not gonna say it’s not NOT in my mind whenever I think about resubscribing to their Patreon that one of them called me a Trump supporter for having the nerve to not like his bad impression in multiple places
I’m not gonna say it’s not NOT in my mind whenever I think about resubscribing to their Patreon that one of them called me a Trump supporter for having the nerve to not like his bad impression in multiple places
this is still maybe the weirdest thing thats happened while I've been on the forums
This whole GWB thing is really weird. He is a garbage president but Im hearing that some people think that he is a worse President than Trump and I can't imagine by what metric they could be basing that off of. Trump is happy to push farther on every deplorable thing that GWB did and also he started concentration camps.
This whole GWB thing is really weird. He is a garbage president but Im hearing that some people think that he is a worse President than Trump and I can't imagine by what metric they could be basing that off of. Trump is happy to push farther on every deplorable thing that GWB did and also he started concentration camps.
GWB contributed to the deaths of a LOT of people. A LOT. By lying about the cause of the Iraq war.
I'm not really interested in a "who's worse", but people seem to forget that he's essentially a war criminal now that he's not literally doing the thing right now
Most "Trump is less bad than X" situations are primarily based off of foreign policy. I don't know what the actual numbers are but the general impression is that it's very much a "thank god he hasn't started any wars". He's still bad and a murderer, but the impression for those people is that it's on a smaller scale than the previous Republicans, owing entirely to the whole active war thing.
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Bush is directly responsible for hundreds of thousands of deaths in the Middle East
This whole GWB thing is really weird. He is a garbage president but Im hearing that some people think that he is a worse President than Trump and I can't imagine by what metric they could be basing that off of. Trump is happy to push farther on every deplorable thing that GWB did and also he started concentration camps.
Mostly it's pushback from other attempts to rehabilitate his image. Honestly trying to someone quantify awfulness and compare it to others seems like a waste of time.
This whole GWB thing is really weird. He is a garbage president but Im hearing that some people think that he is a worse President than Trump and I can't imagine by what metric they could be basing that off of. Trump is happy to push farther on every deplorable thing that GWB did and also he started concentration camps.
GWB killed a LOT of people. A LOT. By lying about the cause of the Iraq war.
I'm not really interested in a "who's worse", but people seem to forget that he's essentially a war criminal now that he's not literally doing the thing right now
He did and I certainly don't want to downplay that but Trump is doing his best at a fascist takeover of the US and is plunging the world into chaos in a way that will not be fully felt for like ten years.
This whole GWB thing is really weird. He is a garbage president but Im hearing that some people think that he is a worse President than Trump and I can't imagine by what metric they could be basing that off of. Trump is happy to push farther on every deplorable thing that GWB did and also he started concentration camps.
GWB killed a LOT of people. A LOT. By lying about the cause of the Iraq war.
I'm not really interested in a "who's worse", but people seem to forget that he's essentially a war criminal now that he's not literally doing the thing right now
He did and I certainly don't want to downplay that but Trump is doing his best at a fascist takeover of the US and is plunging the world into chaos in a way that will not be fully felt for like ten years.
while that's true i think it's also the case that basically every republican president has done that
it's just that it's been more subtle because they're not a raging manchild who blurts out his dick
but it could be argued that literally every President has been chipping in to turn the world towards fascism
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The Trump administration is also stacking the federal courts with some pretty heinous judges, so the damage from his presidency probably won't be as immediately visible as with something like the Iraq War
Though I don't remember enough about the Bush admin re: court stacking beyond the Supreme Court
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Oofa doofa, this is a rough one
Their entire schtick is that they give bad advice that people shouldn't take
I love TAZ and all, but that is a bold claim.
Its not a crazy comparison
Its a podcast that turned into a multimedia empire (games, comics, sourcebooks) based in large part on fan interaction
They are selling the graphic novels at fuckin' Target
I know this isn't specific to TAZ but seeing the discourse around folks screaming at each other online for portraying Taako as... like, blue and not green, was weird
Yyyyyyeah and the bros didn't really do a good job with it
They simultaneously said all visual interpretations are valid but then went with pretty much exactly the popular representations for the comic
About half of the queer folks I know love the brothers, and the other half (mostly here) are exasperated at best. I agree with Speed that I don't think they're hearing criticism as well anymore now that they're surrounded by a significantly large crowd that loves them, but I also don't think they're unwilling to hear it, it's just drowned out
And I do find Travis irritating and performative, but I find a few people irritating and performative and I still consider them fundamentally good people, so y'know
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The Gleep Glossary and the Nexus are both very good content, but more than Star Wars or Star Trek, I just naturally associate those dudes with horror movies
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...green? I feel like all the TAZ fanart the algorithm (wrongly) things I want to see is dark skinned taako.
Taako is usually green
Merle is tan
Angus is dark skinned
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That was pretty jarring, going back and rewatching the Monster Factory archive.
Jesus Christ was that really that long ago
I really hope we never find a reason to hate We Hate Movies, I enjoy their work.
There was a whole kerfuffle with Eric where he went after people unfairly for wishing they'd stop the trump impression
but he apologized and it was cool
Reply All is hosted by Alex Goldman and PJ Vogt who are two former NPR people
it is very good, and generally never punches down
listen to Long Distance part one and part two
this is still maybe the weirdest thing thats happened while I've been on the forums
GWB contributed to the deaths of a LOT of people. A LOT. By lying about the cause of the Iraq war.
I'm not really interested in a "who's worse", but people seem to forget that he's essentially a war criminal now that he's not literally doing the thing right now
Trump hasn’t quite matched that yet
Mostly it's pushback from other attempts to rehabilitate his image. Honestly trying to someone quantify awfulness and compare it to others seems like a waste of time.
Trump is also those things!
He did and I certainly don't want to downplay that but Trump is doing his best at a fascist takeover of the US and is plunging the world into chaos in a way that will not be fully felt for like ten years.
while that's true i think it's also the case that basically every republican president has done that
it's just that it's been more subtle because they're not a raging manchild who blurts out his dick
but it could be argued that literally every President has been chipping in to turn the world towards fascism
Though I don't remember enough about the Bush admin re: court stacking beyond the Supreme Court