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    DarkPrimusDarkPrimus Registered User regular
    More like Whine Mamba

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    Mr. GMr. G Registered User regular
    The Wind Rises has caused both Griffin and Ben to spiral into existential crisis on Blank Check

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    Brovid HasselsmofBrovid Hasselsmof [Growling historic on the fury road] Registered User regular
    I've never played any MGS. The character called Solid Snake has a brother called Liquid Snake? I always assumed Solid Snake was a code name. Is Snake his actual surname?

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    UrielUriel Registered User regular
    edited November 2019
    I've never played any MGS. The character called Solid Snake has a brother called Liquid Snake? I always assumed Solid Snake was a code name. Is Snake his actual surname?

    They are actually clones of big boss, who had the codename snake in the cold war

    But I think solid snakes first name is canonically "David" according to the first mgs game at least

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    Grey GhostGrey Ghost Registered User regular
    I've never played any MGS. The character called Solid Snake has a brother called Liquid Snake? I always assumed Solid Snake was a code name. Is Snake his actual surname?

    It's all codenames
    The number of Metal Gear characters whose real birth names you ever learn is far outnumbered by goofy codenames

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    UrielUriel Registered User regular
    Revolver ocelot is a rad codename

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    Grey GhostGrey Ghost Registered User regular
    like a lot of Metal Gear, Revolver Ocelot is both rad AND very goofy

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    UrielUriel Registered User regular
    Psycho mantis!

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    fRAWRstfRAWRst The Seas Call The Mad AnswerRegistered User regular
    Vulcan Raven

    Giant and Shaman

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    never dienever die Registered User regular
    I've never played any MGS. The character called Solid Snake has a brother called Liquid Snake? I always assumed Solid Snake was a code name. Is Snake his actual surname?

    They are codenames. The justifications in story are numerous, if convoluted. They are both clones of Big Boss, whose codename was Naked Snake in the 60s (Naked because he carried nothing with him when he infiltrated places). From there, Solid Snake was given the codename Solid Snake. Liquid Snake, when he joined Foxhound after Solid Snake left, was given that codename because he fulfilled the similar role as Solid Snake. Also, the Patriots knew they were brothers and therefore continued the naming structure.

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    Der Waffle MousDer Waffle Mous Blame this on the misfortune of your birth. New Yark, New Yark.Registered User regular
    Also, a third "perfect" clone, named Solidus after the state of matter just below the melting point.

    He was the president.

    I don't think Kojima takes this stuff quite as seriously as people assume he does.

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    HobnailHobnail Registered User regular
    Either he's not taking it seriously or people take him way too seriously

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    PoorochondriacPoorochondriac Ah, man Ah, jeezRegistered User regular
    My favorite moment in Metal Gear Solid 2 was when I blew up a helicopter with a rocket launcher, walked away, slipped on bird shit, and died

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    Der Waffle MousDer Waffle Mous Blame this on the misfortune of your birth. New Yark, New Yark.Registered User regular
    There's something about the "ha ha what a weird japanese thing" aspect of how people approach Kojima games that rubs me the wrong way.

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    simulacrumsimulacrum She/herRegistered User regular
    There's something about the "ha ha what a weird japanese thing" aspect of how people approach Kojima games that rubs me the wrong way.

    Same but with all Japan stuff in general

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    Der Waffle MousDer Waffle Mous Blame this on the misfortune of your birth. New Yark, New Yark.Registered User regular
    edited November 2019
    simulacrum wrote: »
    There's something about the "ha ha what a weird japanese thing" aspect of how people approach Kojima games that rubs me the wrong way.

    Same but with all Japan stuff in general
    I mean yeah.

    edit: mostly thinking of the difference of reaction between that and, say, a Yakuza which silos off its weirdness but also wears it on its sleeve.

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    never dienever die Registered User regular
    edited November 2019
    Something I think Dan Ryckert (of Giant Bomb) actually captures quite well about the appeal of Metal Gear Solid is that, when its at its best, it loves to fluctuate wildly between incredibly earnest, up its own ass melodrama and slapstick humor that works quite well.

    At its worst its earnest, up its own ass melodrama filled with mysognistic bullshit and bad gameplay.

    Often it does both at the same time.

    While I love MGS3 more than MGS2, I do think that MGS2 kind of peaked when it came to interesting takes and ideas from Kojima, between its meta-commentary on sequels and the self-referential love of the original they tend to have, and having a pretty accurate prediction of the way memes and memetic ideas would affect society in the 21st century and the drowning out of interesting ideas when all ideas are at people's fingertips. As well as the power people wield if they can capture those memetic concepts and push an ideology with them, be it positive or negative (such as the Patriots using iconography of Snake and memetic ideas to try and push their view of the world through the deluge of the internet).

    ...though MGS2 is also my least favorite MGS to play, so *shrug*

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    MaddocMaddoc I'm Bobbin Threadbare, are you my mother? Registered User regular
    MGS2 is good enough that it feels accidental when placed next to the rest of the series

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    OlivawOlivaw good name, isn't it? the foot of mt fujiRegistered User regular
    Hot take I like all of the Metal Gear games sort of equally

    They each do something better and something worse than every other entry

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    I needed anime to post.I needed anime to post. boom Registered User regular
    goty talk:

    best new character seems like a weak category this year. it's not that there aren't good characters - there's a ton. it's just that there's no GREAT characters, no one that charges ahead of the pack

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    RadiusRadius Registered User regular
    is it not going to be Goose?

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    Rorshach KringleRorshach Kringle that crustache life Registered User regular
    fist of the north star is the game of the year

    end debate

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    PeenPeen Registered User regular
    Metal Gear Solid 2 had the most exciting demo in the history of video games, says me. Like people bought a whole other game with no intention of playing it, just to get the demo, and it blew everyone's friggin minds.

    So at least there's that.

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    UnbrokenEvaUnbrokenEva HIGH ON THE WIRE BUT I WON'T TRIP ITRegistered User regular
    goty talk:

    best new character seems like a weak category this year. it's not that there aren't good characters - there's a ton. it's just that there's no GREAT characters, no one that charges ahead of the pack

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    darunia106darunia106 J-bob in games Death MountainRegistered User regular
    fist of the north star is the game of the year

    end debate

    You're the only one I've heard even talk about it. What is it?

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    YaYaYaYa Decent. Registered User regular
    Radius wrote: »
    is it not going to be Goose?

    it will obviously be the goose

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    Beef AvengerBeef Avenger Registered User regular


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    I needed anime to post.I needed anime to post. boom Registered User regular
    the Goose is not a character, it's a narrator

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    BahamutZEROBahamutZERO Registered User, Moderator mod
    YaYa wrote: »
    Radius wrote: »
    is it not going to be Goose?

    it will obviously be the goose

    I don't think giant bomb people were as enamored with the goose game as the greater internet seemed to be

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    Speed RacerSpeed Racer Scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratchRegistered User regular
    goty talk:

    best new character seems like a weak category this year. it's not that there aren't good characters - there's a ton. it's just that there's no GREAT characters, no one that charges ahead of the pack

    my guess is Caspar Darling runs away with it

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    Rorshach KringleRorshach Kringle that crustache life Registered User regular
    darunia106 wrote: »
    fist of the north star is the game of the year

    end debate

    You're the only one I've heard even talk about it. What is it?

    using magic fight power to run kung fu cheers

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    I needed anime to post.I needed anime to post. boom Registered User regular
    Fist of the North Star is a Yakuza game, except instead of playing a clueless Yakuza with a heart of gold, you play an 80s hypermasculine anime protagonist

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    Speed RacerSpeed Racer Scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratchRegistered User regular
    edited November 2019
    man

    MGS2 is good

    just sittin' here thinkin' about how the ending is basically "here is a very real and very serious problem; also the only people who could realistically do anything about it are fascists who would only replace the problem with something far worse. fuck man i dunno this is scary maybe you have some better ideas??"

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    darunia106darunia106 J-bob in games Death MountainRegistered User regular
    SOLD

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    RadiusRadius Registered User regular
    Fist of the North Star: Lost Paradise is a game, and I know this will not dissuade you, that was released in 2018.

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    darunia106darunia106 J-bob in games Death MountainRegistered User regular
    Radius wrote: »
    Fist of the North Star: Lost Paradise is a game, and I know this will not dissuade you, that was released in 2018.

    I can't believe it came out 15 years ago.

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    I needed anime to post.I needed anime to post. boom Registered User regular
    man

    MGS2 is good

    just sittin' here thinkin' about how the ending is basically "here is a very real and very serious problem; also the only people who could realistically do anything about it are fascists who would only replace the problem with something far worse. fuck man i dunno this is scary maybe you have some better ideas??"

    yes but we're not allowed to talk about them on the forums

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    Rorshach KringleRorshach Kringle that crustache life Registered User regular
    Radius wrote: »
    Fist of the North Star: Lost Paradise is a game, and I know this will not dissuade you, that was released in 2018.

    it will remain game of the year until something better is released

    so, probably for decades

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    WeedLordVegetaWeedLordVegeta Registered User regular
    TAZ Graduation 1
    You're telling me that Travis, the middle brother and arguably the least known, made a game about a school for henchmen and sidekicks set in the literal shadow of the more famous heroes and villains school???

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    Speed RacerSpeed Racer Scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratchRegistered User regular
    TAZ Graduation 1
    You're telling me that Travis, the middle brother and arguably the least known, made a game about a school for henchmen and sidekicks set in the literal shadow of the more famous heroes and villains school???
    mannnnnn

    i have zero interest in listening to TAZ, and that sucks because this sounds like a really fun premise

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