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    Rorshach KringleRorshach Kringle that crustache life Registered User regular
    it's me

    i will be making my dc comics debut

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    BlankZoeBlankZoe Registered User regular
    Going off of other characters featured in ye olde Strange Adventures it could be:
    Captain Comet
    Deadman
    Enchantress
    Animal Man
    Immortal Man
    Or Star Hawkins

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    Rorshach KringleRorshach Kringle that crustache life Registered User regular
    blank i just told you it was me!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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    BlankZoeBlankZoe Registered User regular
    blank i just told you it was me!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    Yeah, I said it could be Immortal Man!

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    Kevin CristKevin Crist I make the devil hit his knees and say the 'our father'Registered User regular
    Amalgam Comics comes back with Dr Strangefate.

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    BlankZoeBlankZoe Registered User regular
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    DC announced a new Harley Quinn and the Birds of Prey Black Label book from Amanda Connor

    Not to be confused with the new Birds of Prey Black Label book, starring Harley Quinn, by Azzarello and Luppachino.

    Both are out early 2020 for maximum confusion

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    Bloods EndBloods End Blade of Tyshalle Punch dimensionRegistered User regular
    I'm confused

    Which ones the ugly one

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    BlankZoeBlankZoe Registered User regular
    ....neither of them?

    Both Amanda Connor and Emanuela Luppachino are great artists!

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    Grey GhostGrey Ghost Registered User regular
    Also not to be confused with the Black Label Harleen book by Stjepan Sejic

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    BlankZoeBlankZoe Registered User regular
    Grey Ghost wrote: »
    Also not to be confused with the Black Label Harleen book by Stjepan Sejic
    Or the Black Label Harley Quinn/Joker: Criminal Insanity book by Kami Garcia

    (This one actually seems kinda neat, Harley is a criminal profiler hunting down Joker and there is zero romance involved)

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    Bloods EndBloods End Blade of Tyshalle Punch dimensionRegistered User regular
    Blankzilla wrote: »
    ....neither of them?

    Both Amanda Connor and Emanuela Luppachino are great artists!

    https://youtu.be/el-wOVybLuQ

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    JimothyJimothy Not in front of the fox he's with the owlRegistered User regular
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    Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    Humor can be dissected as a frog can, but dies in the process.
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    The Cow KingThe Cow King a island Registered User regular
    I finished Animal Man and it was wild

    The copy I got of the last issues is from a library or was poor suckers it's mine now (I bought it from a used bookstore some where in Ohio it has library labels I lold was all)

    But that's half the fun of buying out of print books they have a history

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    Sweeney TomSweeney Tom Registered User regular
    I watched The Death And Return Of Superman, two animated films (Death of Superman and its sequel Reign of the Supermen) put together as one complete near-3-hour viewing experience that just got released to BluRay this week

    Death of Superman was obviously the better of the two and I think one of my fav comic adaptations in general, animated or not. It's always been one of my most-loved comics, the one I remember most from reading it the first time when I was a kid, and it was definitely done justice in the adaptation. Also it had one of my favorite portrayals of the relationship between Lois and Clark?

    So yeah. Took me a bit to see Death of Superman, but I'm very glad I did, it was well worth it! And Reign of the Supermen wasn't bad either, albeit not as great or near as memorable

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    OwenashiOwenashi Registered User regular
    I watched The Death And Return Of Superman, two animated films (Death of Superman and its sequel Reign of the Supermen) put together as one complete near-3-hour viewing experience that just got released to BluRay this week

    Death of Superman was obviously the better of the two and I think one of my fav comic adaptations in general, animated or not. It's always been one of my most-loved comics, the one I remember most from reading it the first time when I was a kid, and it was definitely done justice in the adaptation. Also it had one of my favorite portrayals of the relationship between Lois and Clark?

    So yeah. Took me a bit to see Death of Superman, but I'm very glad I did, it was well worth it! And Reign of the Supermen wasn't bad either, albeit not as great or near as memorable

    I gotta know; did Bloodwynd make it in?

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    Not a proper adaptation without him in it.
    Yeah, I know who he was during that story.

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    Crimson KingCrimson King Registered User regular
    Blankzilla wrote: »
    Grey Ghost wrote: »
    Also not to be confused with the Black Label Harleen book by Stjepan Sejic
    Or the Black Label Harley Quinn/Joker: Criminal Insanity book by Kami Garcia

    (This one actually seems kinda neat, Harley is a criminal profiler hunting down Joker and there is zero romance involved)

    there's so many things you could do with harley quinn that aren't just "deadpool but horny"

    i always want them to play up the psychologist angle. i remember a throwaway line in morrison's batman about how she wrote her thesis on the joker

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    I needed anime to post.I needed anime to post. boom Registered User regular
    a huge problem is that a lot of writers over the years have liked the ingrained sexism of "she fucked her way through her degree"

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    OwenashiOwenashi Registered User regular
    a huge problem is that a lot of writers over the years have liked the ingrained sexism of "she fucked her way through her degree"

    Wait, what? I thought she came off as a bit ditzy but that being due to the whole 'mad love' thing for Joker lowering her smarts kinda like how some folks tend to be in a bad relationship. Where did this idea of her doing it with her teachers come from?

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    StiltsStilts Registered User regular
    Owenashi wrote: »
    a huge problem is that a lot of writers over the years have liked the ingrained sexism of "she fucked her way through her degree"

    Wait, what? I thought she came off as a bit ditzy but that being due to the whole 'mad love' thing for Joker lowering her smarts kinda like how some folks tend to be in a bad relationship. Where did this idea of her doing it with her teachers come from?

    I can’t remember the specific comics, but some writers do have her imply she used sex to get her position.

    Other writers do not, so the “canon” is...conflicted about it. But yeah, it sucks, and it plays into the idea a lot of people have about Harley that she’s just a ditzy femme fatale instead of, you know, a smart person who’s a victim of abuse.

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    BucketmanBucketman Call me SkraggRegistered User regular
    Read all the current issues of Lois Lane, its very good! Question though
    So uh...why is Vic alive? did a bunch of dead characters come back or something?

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    JayKaosJayKaos Registered User regular
    Bucketman wrote: »
    Read all the current issues of Lois Lane, its very good! Question though
    So uh...why is Vic alive? did a bunch of dead characters come back or something?
    That seems to be something that'll be answered in Lois Lane, don't think he was seen elsewhere. Though it seems like every writer is undoing New 52 in a different way since doomsday clock is taking so long so I may have missed one

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    BucketmanBucketman Call me SkraggRegistered User regular
    Awesome thanks!

    Also, should I read Event Leviathan?

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    BlankZoeBlankZoe Registered User regular
    Yeah, EL is pretty fun so far

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    BlankZoeBlankZoe Registered User regular
    DC announced they will be releasing an updated timeline that covers the DCU and will sort out what is and is not canon in the wake of Rebirth

    No creative team named but Didio did say that Wonder Woman is going to be the first superhero of the "modern" era, with Superman arriving in the second "generation" after her

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    shoeboxjeddyshoeboxjeddy Registered User regular
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    Blankzilla wrote: »
    DC announced they will be releasing an updated timeline that covers the DCU and will sort out what is and is not canon in the wake of Rebirth

    No creative team named but Didio did say that Wonder Woman is going to be the first superhero of the "modern" era, with Superman arriving in the second "generation" after her

    I'll be fascinated to see which origin they go with for Wonder Woman.
    -OG
    -New 52 with all the baggage that brings
    -Rebirth which is mostly OG with the MASSIVE asterisk of "lol, she NEVER went back to Paradise Island after the origin, every time she thought she had was a fakeout or lie."

    Also, did she date New 52 Superman or was that a different version of the character who was swapped out somehow? Do the DC heroes even still remember there was another Superman they hung out with for like... a decade who dramatically died? And not the one who died to Doomsday... did the New 52 one supposedly die to Doomsday at some point? Or was that only the John Byrne Man of Steel one who we have back now...?

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    BlankZoeBlankZoe Registered User regular
    Apparently the four eras they are going with are The Dawn of Heroes, beginning with Diana entering man's world back in the early-mid 20th century, The Space Age, starting with Superman's debut, The Age of Crisis, beginning with COIE and Flashpoint, covering everything from Flashpoint to the modern era.

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    KyouguKyougu Registered User regular
    Stilts wrote: »
    Owenashi wrote: »
    a huge problem is that a lot of writers over the years have liked the ingrained sexism of "she fucked her way through her degree"

    Wait, what? I thought she came off as a bit ditzy but that being due to the whole 'mad love' thing for Joker lowering her smarts kinda like how some folks tend to be in a bad relationship. Where did this idea of her doing it with her teachers come from?

    I can’t remember the specific comics, but some writers do have her imply she used sex to get her position.

    Other writers do not, so the “canon” is...conflicted about it. But yeah, it sucks, and it plays into the idea a lot of people have about Harley that she’s just a ditzy femme fatale instead of, you know, a smart person who’s a victim of abuse.

    I'm almost sure it was Mad Love from Paul Dini.

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    Commander ZoomCommander Zoom Registered User regular
    Kyougu wrote: »
    Stilts wrote: »
    Owenashi wrote: »
    a huge problem is that a lot of writers over the years have liked the ingrained sexism of "she fucked her way through her degree"

    Wait, what? I thought she came off as a bit ditzy but that being due to the whole 'mad love' thing for Joker lowering her smarts kinda like how some folks tend to be in a bad relationship. Where did this idea of her doing it with her teachers come from?

    I can’t remember the specific comics, but some writers do have her imply she used sex to get her position.

    Other writers do not, so the “canon” is...conflicted about it. But yeah, it sucks, and it plays into the idea a lot of people have about Harley that she’s just a ditzy femme fatale instead of, you know, a smart person who’s a victim of abuse.

    I'm almost sure it was Mad Love from Paul Dini.

    the guy who created the character, so it's both (1) about as canon/from the horse's mouth as you can get, and (2) skeevy as fuck.

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    KyouguKyougu Registered User regular
    Paul Dini is a super horny dude, so I'm not entirely shocked.

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    BucketmanBucketman Call me SkraggRegistered User regular
    Was it him or Bruce Timm who use to draw all the nudes of Harley and Ivy for people at cons?

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    Rorshach KringleRorshach Kringle that crustache life Registered User regular
    paul dini literally married zatanna

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    Commander ZoomCommander Zoom Registered User regular
    Bucketman wrote: »
    Was it him or Bruce Timm who use to draw all the nudes of Harley and Ivy for people at cons?

    Dini's a writer, Timm's the artist, so I'd guess...

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    EtchwartsEtchwarts Eyes Up Registered User regular
    Didn't one of the dozen Harley Quinn OGNs coming out just address the "sleeping with the professor" stuff
    It was like, she was already top of the class before she started sleeping with him? Which keeps it canon if that's something you need to do, but also removes the implicit/explicit "and that's how she graduated"

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    BucketmanBucketman Call me SkraggRegistered User regular
    Boy Dial H for hero is the perfect kind of silly
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    Dizzy DDizzy D NetherlandsRegistered User regular
    Didn't one of the dozen Harley Quinn OGNs coming out just address the "sleeping with the professor" stuff
    It was like, she was already top of the class before she started sleeping with him? Which keeps it canon if that's something you need to do, but also removes the implicit/explicit "and that's how she graduated"

    That's in Šejić's Harleen, which is not exactly in canon.
    Harleen has a relationship with a teacher in that, because she finds the guys in her class to be kids. Her later boss points out that, while that was a mistake, there was no way that she would have been able to graduate and certainly not with those grades if she didn't put in a lot of work in all of her classes.

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    StraightziStraightzi Here we may reign secure, and in my choice, To reign is worth ambition though in HellRegistered User regular
    I actually like the retcon that Harleen does with it
    First off, it gets rid of the dumb idea that sleeping with her professor(s) is the only way she got through school

    Second, it establishes that she has ongoing difficulties with professional boundaries and romantic entanglements

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    StiltsStilts Registered User regular
    Kyougu wrote: »
    Stilts wrote: »
    Owenashi wrote: »
    a huge problem is that a lot of writers over the years have liked the ingrained sexism of "she fucked her way through her degree"

    Wait, what? I thought she came off as a bit ditzy but that being due to the whole 'mad love' thing for Joker lowering her smarts kinda like how some folks tend to be in a bad relationship. Where did this idea of her doing it with her teachers come from?

    I can’t remember the specific comics, but some writers do have her imply she used sex to get her position.

    Other writers do not, so the “canon” is...conflicted about it. But yeah, it sucks, and it plays into the idea a lot of people have about Harley that she’s just a ditzy femme fatale instead of, you know, a smart person who’s a victim of abuse.

    I'm almost sure it was Mad Love from Paul Dini.

    the guy who created the character, so it's both (1) about as canon/from the horse's mouth as you can get, and (2) skeevy as fuck.

    Yeah, what's fascinating about that, is that the Harley Quinn solo series written by Karl Kesel and drawn by Terry and Rachel Dodson actually doesn't go with what Dini set as "canon".

    Like, you'd expect that the book the Dodsons were on would be the horny one (and, in some parts, it still definitely is), but Kesel actually has a section where an investigator states that Harleen has a "genius-level I.Q." And Dr. Arkham is seen in a flashback saying "[I'm] quite impressed with your grades and glowing recommendations, Dr. Quinzel." Harley replies with a quip: "It's amazing what you can get with a little blackmail these days." But Arkham explicitly calls that out has a joke and that he's glad Harleen has a good sense of humor.

    When I first read that paperback collection of their Harley series, I figured it was just an example of Harleen having a bit of a twisted sense of humor even at the start; but in hindsight, with the added context of knowing this series came out, like, 7 years after Mad Love, it almost feels like Kesel is directly repudiating the idea that she slept her way to the top.

    Anyway, all this is to say I still really like "Preludes and Knock Knock Jokes," and aside from the fun Harley content, it also has one of my favorite Big Barda appearances in all of comics.

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    BlankZoeBlankZoe Registered User regular
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    Amy Reeder will be writing and drawing an Amethyst miniseries for Bendis' Wonder Comics line.

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    BlankZoeBlankZoe Registered User regular
    Bendis tweeted this out and then retweeted it:


    He does random art tweets sometimes but usually by linking other sources

    It would be pretty amazing if he went HEY DC I HAVE 4 THINGS I WANT TO DO: YOUNG JUSTICE, SUPERMAN, LEGION OF SUPERHEROES AND THE WARLORD

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