I never really liked the "everything is mysterious and makes little sense until we explain it in the last issue" format.
Well, during the 90s it was more like: everything is mysterious and we don't have the answers and we'll let other writers come up with something years latter... format.
That Gateway/Bishop connection has never really been mentioned after it was first brought out, I think. Possibly because it was fucking pointless in the first place and seemed to exist for no reason other than someone at Marvel thinking that if these two guys are black they must be related.
Bishop has had his moments, most notably when a writer junks all of the future time-travel stuff and just settles on him being a cop of some kind. District X and the Murder at the Mansion storyline are probably his finest hours. But generally he's a problematic character, because he was sent from a future that has been utterly averted. And so what the fuck do you do now Bish? Cable might have had the same problem, but he's got family connections and Niceiza managed to give him an intelligent agenda (Providence, Rumekistan) so that he at least had a purpose. Bishop has been reduced to being the liason between the X-Men and ONE.
I actually like when Bishop had his own title, if any one remembers it. It was called Bishop The Last X-Man, I though it was a natural progression to his own story, getting sent to a very distant future were there X-Men are far forgotten legends still remembered by few.
I hate the fact they brought him back to present time for Apocalypses rise in "The 12" story line.
I thought that storyline was pretty dumb myself. He was a lot better in District X.
Also, it makes me sad when I remember Shard died in a pointless sacrifice. Well, again.
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edited January 2008
Just as a note: Shortly after AoA, Bishop guest-starred in Generation X helping out against M's brother Emplate. It was implied there that M may be Bishop's mother, and seeing as how they were building an M/Synch relationship, Synch may have been the father. Which would have also given Bishop a familial link in powerset as well as skin tone.
But of course, no one really remembers that and so....
I admit I loved the 90s. We always love the era we discovered comics. Love Cable, love Bishop, loved X-cutioners Song.
But they've gone to this damn time-traveler-from-the-future-knows-something-we-don't storyline too many times. I'm all for tying up loose ends (3rd summers brother!), but the Bishop story line was over. His future averted. And they were doing new and interesting things with him (he's a cop! he's bald!). And now we're retreading his origin story? He knows something about some baby but never bothered to mention it?
They did this with Cable in the recent X-force mini.
Just as a note: Shortly after AoA, Bishop guest-starred in Generation X helping out against M's brother Emplate. It was implied there that M may be Bishop's mother, and seeing as how they were building an M/Synch relationship, Synch may have been the father. Which would have also given Bishop a familial link in powerset as well as skin tone.
But of course, no one really remembers that and so....
Just as a note: Shortly after AoA, Bishop guest-starred in Generation X helping out against M's brother Emplate. It was implied there that M may be Bishop's mother, and seeing as how they were building an M/Synch relationship, Synch may have been the father. Which would have also given Bishop a familial link in powerset as well as skin tone.
But of course, no one really remembers that and so....
Killing Synch was stupid.
Yes, but he was much more expendable and didn't have a role in the AoA thus making him even less memorable to the dwindling X-Men fanbase. Hell, more people remember the Bedlam Brothers than Synch. Or Joseph. Or Maggot. etc etc etc
He's dead, killed in the Neverland concentration camp in Weapon X in the first few issues of that book. No official story gave us a proper ending to the camp's story after Weapon X got taken out behind Marvel's woodshed and put out of its misery, but generally it's accepted now that it's been abandoned and the remaining inmates are all dead, except the ones that will show up later totally unharmed and without a care in the world.
A flamboyant South African mutant who spoke in exaggerated Afrikaans slang, Maggott was advertised as one of the strangest X-Men. His digestive system took the form of two slugs which could eat through practically any substance. After feeding, the slugs reentered Maggott's abdomen and passed nourishment into him, giving him incredible strength.
Really, even if he hadn't died at Neverland, he most certainly would've bit it in Decimation.
Really? Maggot? Christ. I thought no-one missed Maggot. What new and wonderful storytelling opportunities will he and his, uh, maggots provide? He was an interesting idea, but Jesus give us someone new.
Next to be revived, the funky bird-retard from the original New Mutants and the brainy asian kid in a wheelchair from the X-Terminators Inferno mini. Or Doug Ramsey. Useless, whining, pissy little fuckwit that he was.
Really? Maggot? Christ. I thought no-one missed Maggot. What new and wonderful storytelling opportunities will he and his, uh, maggots provide? He was an interesting idea, but Jesus give us someone new.
Next to be revived, the funky bird-retard from the original New Mutants and the brainy asian kid in a wheelchair from the X-Terminators Inferno mini. Or Doug Ramsey. Useless, whining, pissy little fuckwit that he was.
Bird retard is currently in the New Warriors. You really don't want to know, and you won't care.
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augustwhere you come from is goneRegistered Userregular
edited January 2008
He's talking about Bird-Brain. I think. Beak was created in New X-Men by Grant Morrison.
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Is Carrey staying on it? That is somewhat reassuring, because his X-men has been excellent. But even so, why?
Is there nothing else that appeals to him more than beating that dead horse? I'll certainly give it a try, but I can't say I'm excited about the direction.
Just as a note: Shortly after AoA, Bishop guest-starred in Generation X helping out against M's brother Emplate. It was implied there that M may be Bishop's mother, and seeing as how they were building an M/Synch relationship, Synch may have been the father. Which would have also given Bishop a familial link in powerset as well as skin tone.
But of course, no one really remembers that and so....
Killing Synch was stupid.
Yes, but he was much more expendable and didn't have a role in the AoA thus making him even less memorable to the dwindling X-Men fanbase. Hell, more people remember the Bedlam Brothers than Synch. Or Joseph. Or Maggot. etc etc etc
Oddly, as a casual X-Men fan Synch is the only one of those I know.
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FencingsaxIt is difficult to get a man to understand, when his salary depends upon his not understandingGNU Terry PratchettRegistered Userregular
edited January 2008
Well, they now have Synch-lite, except he's a terrible character.
He's dead, killed in the Neverland concentration camp in Weapon X in the first few issues of that book. No official story gave us a proper ending to the camp's story after Weapon X got taken out behind Marvel's woodshed and put out of its misery, but generally it's accepted now that it's been abandoned and the remaining inmates are all dead, except the ones that will show up later totally unharmed and without a care in the world.
Yes, the ending was given in Endangered Species. Closed. Mass graves.
Good times.
But I thought he was in the Morlock arc of Uncanny between Rise and Fall and MX.
Anyway, I figure Carey wouldn't be writing a book focused on Xavier without some good ideas.
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Well, during the 90s it was more like: everything is mysterious and we don't have the answers and we'll let other writers come up with something years latter... format.
I thought that storyline was pretty dumb myself. He was a lot better in District X.
Also, it makes me sad when I remember Shard died in a pointless sacrifice. Well, again.
But of course, no one really remembers that and so....
But they've gone to this damn time-traveler-from-the-future-knows-something-we-don't storyline too many times. I'm all for tying up loose ends (3rd summers brother!), but the Bishop story line was over. His future averted. And they were doing new and interesting things with him (he's a cop! he's bald!). And now we're retreading his origin story? He knows something about some baby but never bothered to mention it?
They did this with Cable in the recent X-force mini.
Yes, but he was much more expendable and didn't have a role in the AoA thus making him even less memorable to the dwindling X-Men fanbase. Hell, more people remember the Bedlam Brothers than Synch. Or Joseph. Or Maggot. etc etc etc
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Really, even if he hadn't died at Neverland, he most certainly would've bit it in Decimation.
Next to be revived, the funky bird-retard from the original New Mutants and the brainy asian kid in a wheelchair from the X-Terminators Inferno mini. Or Doug Ramsey. Useless, whining, pissy little fuckwit that he was.
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He is one of my favorite X-Men.
bring back Husk
but without the gross relationship with Angel
total reversal
even more of a reversal
Unless it is in New Warriors because it sucks.
Penance/Hollow isn't really doing anything right now since Loners is over
M is in X-Factor
Jubilee and Chamber are in New Warriors
Husk isn't doing anything right now either
Never happened.
Has she been in anything since then?
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I'm confident Carey and co have some good ideas planned
Is there nothing else that appeals to him more than beating that dead horse? I'll certainly give it a try, but I can't say I'm excited about the direction.
as for why? I dunno, you'd have to ask him. But knowing him I suspect he has a plan.
Toad is the best Brotherhood mutant.
I also miss Marrow. I was really hoping that Nurse Arrow in Spider-Man was going to turn out to be her.
Marrow was in X-Factor for a couple issues.
Oddly, as a casual X-Men fan Synch is the only one of those I know.
Yes, the ending was given in Endangered Species. Closed. Mass graves.
Good times.
But I thought he was in the Morlock arc of Uncanny between Rise and Fall and MX.
Anyway, I figure Carey wouldn't be writing a book focused on Xavier without some good ideas.