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The [Pokémon] Thread! Sword & Shield OUT NOW!!

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  • TurambarTurambar Independent Registered User regular
    Still not a fan of dynamaxing

    Feels weird to put so much focus on one of your mons

    Megas handled that better, IMO

    That said, it's funny to see how many people are angry that Gamefreak didn't spoil more of their game in this trailer

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  • DemonStaceyDemonStacey TTODewback's Daughter In love with the TaySwayRegistered User regular
    edited October 2019
    The gigantamaxing is better than the dynamaxing since it's more than just "pokemon, but big"

    But in what way does it put more focus on a single mon than Megas did?

    It feels like a similar situation unless there's something I missed about it. Plus some of them even seem to have special moves and effects for the rest of your team which makes them seem like potential team build-arounds.

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  • King RiptorKing Riptor Registered User regular
    edited October 2019
    TamerBill wrote: »
    Ah yes, a third super mode for Charizard, just what we were all clamouring for.

    No megas in this gen though

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  • LucascraftLucascraft Registered User regular
    Wow yeah. There is some serious negativity being thrown at this video. Yikes.

    I mean, I don't hate Dynamax/Gigantimax. But I'd also rather just have more Mega Evolutions. This seems like an unnecessary new system, and it is less appealing than both old systems it is replacing.

    Also, I don't think anybody cares enough about Gigantimax to want an entire video dedicated to it.

  • TurambarTurambar Independent Registered User regular
    The gigantamaxing is better than the dynamaxing since it's more than just "pokemon, but big"

    But in what way does it put more focus on a single mon than Megas did?

    It feels like a similar situation unless there's something I missed about it. Plus some of them even seem to have special moves and effects for the rest of your team which makes them seem like potential team build-arounds.

    Because they're freakin huge

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  • DemonStaceyDemonStacey TTODewback's Daughter In love with the TaySwayRegistered User regular
    I deffo agree with that part.

    If we are going to have a "special stronger version of pokes that you can use 1 of at a time" then they really should have just used the system they already had in place for it.

    Although I guess the difference is that it is sort of both of the old systems combined into 1 since they each get a special move as well.

    So as I type this it's starting to make more sense to me. Instead of having 1 mega and 1 z-move per team it moves you back to having just 1 special thing but a combined version of each so neither is left out.

  • DemonStaceyDemonStacey TTODewback's Daughter In love with the TaySwayRegistered User regular
    Turambar wrote: »
    The gigantamaxing is better than the dynamaxing since it's more than just "pokemon, but big"

    But in what way does it put more focus on a single mon than Megas did?

    It feels like a similar situation unless there's something I missed about it. Plus some of them even seem to have special moves and effects for the rest of your team which makes them seem like potential team build-arounds.

    Because they're freakin huge

    Ohh. Ok I get what you mean. I thought you meant gameplay wise. But yea, I'm not into them becoming gigantic either. I wish they just had the cool alternate models without suddenly becoming the size of a building.

  • StormwatcherStormwatcher Blegh BlughRegistered User regular
    I must be a morans then because I loved that video

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  • cloudeaglecloudeagle Registered User regular
    ...is there some sort of English/Japanese/whatever folklore that explains why Meowth gets turned into a dachshund?

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  • LucascraftLucascraft Registered User regular
    I thought he looked more like an inflatable tube man. Like something you'd see at a used car lot.

  • ThePantsAssociationThePantsAssociation A million could-be years on a thousand may-be worldsRegistered User regular
    cloudeagle wrote: »
    ...is there some sort of English/Japanese/whatever folklore that explains why Meowth gets turned into a dachshund?

    Cats can stretch out quite a bit. It's also an old meme.

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  • TalithTalith 変態という名の紳士 Miami, FLRegistered User regular
    I thought it would have been instantly recognizable as Longcat. :<

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  • LucascraftLucascraft Registered User regular
    I don't know what "longcat" is. So I would not have recognized that.

    I assume it's a meme. Maybe even the picture that was posted above.

    But I'm a grumpy old man who hates memes and I wish game companies would keep memes out of my video games.

  • StormwatcherStormwatcher Blegh BlughRegistered User regular
    better cancel your internet provider then :D

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  • Romantic UndeadRomantic Undead Registered User regular
    So, my impression of "maxing" so far seems to be that it's, mechanics-wise, basically just a combination of Mega evolution and Z moves. Is that about right?

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  • TDawgTDawg Registered User regular
    So, my impression of "maxing" so far seems to be that it's, mechanics-wise, basically just a combination of Mega evolution and Z moves. Is that about right?

    That's a fair assessment. A power boost every Pokemon can use, some of them change forms and some of them do new things. My hope is its not as much of a single-turn-surprise game changer as Z moves were, and not as mandatory for the team and metagame centralizing as megas were.

    I like these new Gigantimax forms a whole lot, but having 2 be LGPE transfer exclusives, 1 is a pre-order bonus, and 1 is Charizard again means that my excitement is significantly tempered. What does this mean for Gigantimax/Dynamax in competitive play if its restricted to certain individual Pokemon?

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  • cloudeaglecloudeagle Registered User regular
    cloudeagle wrote: »
    ...is there some sort of English/Japanese/whatever folklore that explains why Meowth gets turned into a dachshund?

    Cats can stretch out quite a bit. It's also an old meme.

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    Eh. I'm also old, so wake me up when Pokemon references Mr. T Ate My Balls.

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  • The Escape GoatThe Escape Goat incorrigible ruminant they/themRegistered User regular
    The forms are fine (well, the Charizard one is both boring and unnecessary, but the others are good).

    It just dings my excitement for a new region when they put out a video like this one month out and it's literally all Kanto mons. Again. The Kanto hate is getting old hat at this point but that's because they won't stop pushing it!

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  • El FantasticoEl Fantastico Toronto, ONRegistered User regular
    We also haven't seen all of the gigant/dyna-capable pokemon. This video only showed off 5 new mons with that capability. All Gen 1, sure, but we already know Alcremie, Corviknight and Drednaw all have new forms, too. I feel like they've only scratched the surface for now.

    The info drip is slow, and all everyone wants now is instant gratification because that's how it's been with the internet and datamines.

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  • EnlongEnlong Registered User regular
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  • DemonStaceyDemonStacey TTODewback's Daughter In love with the TaySwayRegistered User regular
    I dunno how old you old folks are but I'm 32 and longcat is a meme from when I was in high school.

    It's like... really goddam old.

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  • LucascraftLucascraft Registered User regular
    I'm 37. I've hated memes since the internet was in its infancy. Original meme sites like lolcats and such, I've hated them since their inception.

    I've become very good at staying off of sites that are meme heavy and curating my own internet experience.

  • TDawgTDawg Registered User regular
    It's also good. "Longcat" Meowth is phenomenal and works because even if you dont' get the reference (is it even intentional??? I am not sure) hes a big goofy boy and I love him.

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  • Romantic UndeadRomantic Undead Registered User regular
    Lucascraft wrote: »
    I'm 37. I've hated memes since the internet was in its infancy. Original meme sites like lolcats and such, I've hated them since their inception.

    I've become very good at staying off of sites that are meme heavy and curating my own internet experience.

    Hmm... I'm older than you and don't hate memes... does that make me a generation traitor? Do I get to be an honorary Millenial?

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  • LucascraftLucascraft Registered User regular
    Plenty of my friends do not hate memes. As far as I know I'm fairly alone in my hatred of much of the things the internet has created.

  • WinkyWinky rRegistered User regular
    Also though cats are just like that

    Basically living slinkies

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  • I needed anime to post.I needed anime to post. boom Registered User regular
    Dynamaxing makes sense to me as a replacement for Mega Evolution because it's something every Pokemon can do. If one of your favourites didn't get a Mega Stone as you leveled through a game, well, you just didn't get to use that feature. But with this whatever dude you want on your team can be your big hero. Then they've also got Mega-style alternate forms for that aesthetic. It's frustrating in the sense that all GameFreak's continued abandoning of features after a generation are, but the design decisions that lead to it are ones I appreciate.

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  • The Escape GoatThe Escape Goat incorrigible ruminant they/themRegistered User regular
    Dynamaxing makes sense to me as a replacement for Mega Evolution because it's something every Pokemon can do. If one of your favourites didn't get a Mega Stone as you leveled through a game, well, you just didn't get to use that feature. But with this whatever dude you want on your team can be your big hero. Then they've also got Mega-style alternate forms for that aesthetic. It's frustrating in the sense that all GameFreak's continued abandoning of features after a generation are, but the design decisions that lead to it are ones I appreciate.

    don't forget that even if one of your favorites got a mega evolution there's a good chance you still couldn't get it until postgame because gamefreak were collectively smoking some wild shit when making XY

    god what a bad mechanic

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  • LucascraftLucascraft Registered User regular
    Z-Stones were annoying like that too because many of the unique ones were locked behind obtuse objectives. And the generic ones were gated by story and some of the more desirable Z-Stones were super late into the story.

  • KizmittKizmitt Registered User regular
    Weren't most of the mega stones only able to be found at a specific time of the day in specific locations with zero in game hints that leads to screw this I'm looking it up online?

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  • TDawgTDawg Registered User regular
    edited October 2019
    Kizmitt wrote: »
    Weren't most of the mega stones only able to be found at a specific time of the day in specific locations with zero in game hints that leads to screw this I'm looking it up online?

    Yes, XY's mega stone sidequest was a post-game thing where between 5 and 6 PM or something you could find sparkling spots around Kalos. There were also "version exclusive" megas too. It was all incredibly awful.

    Sun and Moon hid a few Z moves in weird places (I think the Psychic Z Move is the worst offender?) but most of the rest were either found through the story or otherwise very easy to get (its very hard to miss Ice) or the end result of side quests (Eevee). My point being that Game Freak hasn't 100% figured it out but they're definitely getting better at it... which is why the news of LGPE exclusive Gigantimax forms is potentially very troubling. Hopefully they'll be illegal for competitive battling to remove issues of access.

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  • redfield85redfield85 Registered User regular
    Do we know when we are able to pre-order this/use vouchers?

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  • TDawgTDawg Registered User regular
    edited October 2019
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    If you took part in the Ultra Final Online Competition you can redeem your shiny Tapu Koko now on the Pokemon Global Link!

    I've really enjoyed the Gen VI and Gen VII Global Link tournaments- I know a lot of people bemoan the lack of Battle Frontier in new games, and I definitely miss them too, but having fun rules for tournaments like this has been a worthwhile trade-off in my opinion. It looks like Sw/Sh will have an even better online competitive system, so hopefully we see something like these tournaments again!
    redfield85 wrote: »
    Do we know when we are able to pre-order this/use vouchers?

    Typically they show up about a week in advance for pre-download I think?

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  • Maz-Maz- 飛べ Registered User regular
    It varies a lot from game to game. It should be available for pre-load pretty soon though.

    Also, something noteworthy that one of the previews mentioned: Sword & Shield doesn't make you go through the "how to catch a Pokemon" tutorial if you've managed to catch a Pokemon beforehand.

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  • StormwatcherStormwatcher Blegh BlughRegistered User regular
    i'm prtty bummed with Chubbychu being a Let's Go Pikachu exclusive.

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  • EnlongEnlong Registered User regular
    Do you need the game, or just a save file?

    If the latter, then you could perhaps get it more easily/cheaper from a rental service or library.

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  • IceBurnerIceBurner It's cold and there are penguins.Registered User regular
    edited October 2019
    Enlong wrote: »
    Do you need the game, or just a save file?

    If the latter, then you could perhaps get it more easily/cheaper from a rental service or library.
    It has to be a save file. Switch only has one cartridge slot, while the saves are on the console itself. If you own both Let's Go and Sword/Shield on cart, it's impossible to insert both game cards at the same time, but the Let's Go save file remains accessible.

    Since that's the case, I wonder: what about the Let's Go demos? If that doesn't save or the save doesn't qualify, a rental would be an ideal way to produce a save file.

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  • StormwatcherStormwatcher Blegh BlughRegistered User regular
    edited October 2019
    well if it wasn't so expensive i'd even buy it

    Edit: hey there's a game rental place in my city

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  • TurambarTurambar Independent Registered User regular
    Let's Go is cute trip back to Gen 1, if you're not tired of that already

    If you're not afraid of pokeburnout, I'd recommend it as warm-up to Sword/Shield

    Don't buy it just for chubby pikachu, though. No way that's worth

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