I lost touch with this whole thing a bit over the last couple of weeks. Just to recap - Brexit was supposed to happen on Oct 31st, didn't happen and Johnson asked the EU for an extension, which they granted. Now an election is scheduled? For when?
Did I get that right?
Basically, yeah. The election is to be on December 12th.
The Tories are having a terrible campaign so far but today is the day Labour will make a decision on reinstating Chris Williamson so there’s plenty of scope to catch up.
Corbyn also keeps dodging questions on Freedom of Movement, continuing his attempts to have his cake and eat it too.
I lost touch with this whole thing a bit over the last couple of weeks. Just to recap - Brexit was supposed to happen on Oct 31st, didn't happen and Johnson asked the EU for an extension, which they granted. Now an election is scheduled? For when?
Did I get that right?
No we did Brexit on October 31st. Removed from the EU directive on adhering to the concept of time, we are now operating by 1800s standards.
The Tories are having a terrible campaign so far but today is the day Labour will make a decision on reinstating Chris Williamson so there’s plenty of scope to catch up.
Corbyn also keeps dodging questions on Freedom of Movement, continuing his attempts to have his cake and eat it too.
From the Guardian Liveblog this morning - Labour is for Freedom of Movement (probably with restrictions on how long you can stay, like we could have had in the EU but it wasn't worth it)
Q: What will you offer on freedom of movement under your Brexit plan?
Corbyn says EU nationals who have made their home in the UK have made a fantastic contribution. The insecurity and uncertainty they have been put through has been horrendous, he says.
He says, after the referendum, he put a motion to parliament saying EU nationals should have a right to remain in the EU. Boris Johnson voted for it, he says.
So, yes, there has to be that movement of people, he says. He says he wants young people to be able to continue to take part in the Erasmus scheme.
He ends by saying he wants EU nationals to continue to live here and to be able to come here.
The Tories are having a terrible campaign so far but today is the day Labour will make a decision on reinstating Chris Williamson so there’s plenty of scope to catch up.
The Tories are having a terrible campaign so far but today is the day Labour will make a decision on reinstating Chris Williamson so there’s plenty of scope to catch up.
Wait, which anti-semite was he again?
I assume he's an anti-semite anyway.
The other two were sexual harrassment and anti-LGBT comments.
The Tories are having a terrible campaign so far but today is the day Labour will make a decision on reinstating Chris Williamson so there’s plenty of scope to catch up.
Wait, which anti-semite was he again?
I assume he's an anti-semite anyway.
He's the "antisemitism is fake" guy who's reliably there to defend other Labour members who say that the Holocaust was an act of self-defence against Jewish capitalism and so on
Kinda concerning no one is underlining this. Add to this the investigation into the leave.eu campaign being shut down because it was politcally inconvenient.
Kinda concerning no one is underlining this. Add to this the investigation into the leave.eu campaign being shut down because it was politcally inconvenient.
Of course no one is talking about it. The Tories benefit
Kinda concerning no one is underlining this. Add to this the investigation into the leave.eu campaign being shut down because it was politcally inconvenient.
Of course no one is talking about it. The Tories benefit
Literally the problem everywhere it's happening. Right-wing parties have more loyalty to their pan-national ideology then to their own nations and so are more then willing to take the help from Russia to win.
Well in the sense that they were already completely fucked anyway this adds a relatively small amount of extra fucked. So yeah I guess in the grand scheme it's nbd.
Kinda concerning no one is underlining this. Add to this the investigation into the leave.eu campaign being shut down because it was politcally inconvenient.
Of course no one is talking about it. The Tories benefit
Literally the problem everywhere it's happening. Right-wing parties have more loyalty to their pan-national ideology then to their own nations and so are more then willing to take the help from Russia to win.
Russia basically has formed a new comintern... A conintern?
Ironic given these parties are typically very nationalist.
Kinda concerning no one is underlining this. Add to this the investigation into the leave.eu campaign being shut down because it was politcally inconvenient.
Of course no one is talking about it. The Tories benefit
Literally the problem everywhere it's happening. Right-wing parties have more loyalty to their pan-national ideology then to their own nations and so are more then willing to take the help from Russia to win.
Russia basically has formed a new comintern... A conintern?
Ironic given these parties are typically very nationalist.
Xenophobes and nationalists of the world unite?
Yes. Literally that. And they are much better at it then the workers of the world or whatever.
It's not even that strange. Xenophobic nationalists can get along fairly well as long as they all agree everyone should just stay where they are.
Austin is the adopted son of a Czech Jew who escaped the Holocaust, so he's more than a little miffed about Labour's reaction to accusations of anti-semitism. "Vote Johnson instead" feels like a parting knife to the kidneys rather than a well thought out position, but every time something like this happens Labour have had no one but themselves to blame. I note with interest that Chris Williamson blames his expulsion on ... a zionist plot.
Jo Swinson's faintly silly campaign launch with bad sound and a somewhat frenetic delivery now looks like a paragon of organisation compared to the other two. Though of course the Mail, vomit-inducingly, has already compared Johnson to Churchill. I look forward to them comparing Barry Chuckle to John Gielgud soon.
Ian Austin can fuck all the way off and when he gets to where he's fucking off to, he can fuck off some more.
He's voraciously anti-immigration and has proposed some pretty horrible policies to "dissuade" immigrants from coming to the UK.
Jeremy Corbyn certainly needs to be criticised on the anti-semitism issue but not from someone who said that immigrants should have to pay for NHS care, get no benefits, and be ineligible for council housing. Prick.
Austin is the adopted son of a Czech Jew who escaped the Holocaust, so he's more than a little miffed about Labour's reaction to accusations of anti-semitism. "Vote Johnson instead" feels like a parting knife to the kidneys rather than a well thought out position, but every time something like this happens Labour have had no one but themselves to blame. I note with interest that Chris Williamson blames his expulsion on ... a zionist plot.
Jo Swinson's faintly silly campaign launch with bad sound and a somewhat frenetic delivery now looks like a paragon of organisation compared to the other two. Though of course the Mail, vomit-inducingly, has already compared Johnson to Churchill. I look forward to them comparing Barry Chuckle to John Gielgud soon.
So did the Metro and the Sun. All he has to do is flick a V-for-victory sign with his fingers and he's the reincarnation of Churchill, apparently. Fairly low bar!
they're also mostly only xenophobic as far as they are racist against brown people
Nah. Look at the UK and polish immigration.
Yeah, or Israeli, Brazillian, or Indian Nationalism where it’s basically just white nationalism with the white part crossed out or broadly redefined.
Just surprised that combining communist methodology with right wing ideology was so effective, but all it really cost was some internal consistency which the far right never gave much of a shit about anyway.
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The Tories are having a terrible campaign so far but today is the day Labour will make a decision on reinstating Chris Williamson so there’s plenty of scope to catch up.
Corbyn also keeps dodging questions on Freedom of Movement, continuing his attempts to have his cake and eat it too.
I lost touch with this whole thing a bit over the last couple of weeks. Just to recap - Brexit was supposed to happen on Oct 31st, didn't happen and Johnson asked the EU for an extension, which they granted. Now an election is scheduled? For when?
Did I get that right?
No we did Brexit on October 31st. Removed from the EU directive on adhering to the concept of time, we are now operating by 1800s standards.
1600s standards
Disraeli is spinning in his grave
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the weirdest crossover online is watching hindutva loonies appear in zionist tweet chains posting their support for israel
they're also mostly only xenophobic as far as they are racist against brown people
Nah. Look at the UK and polish immigration.
Yeah, or Israeli, Brazillian, or Indian Nationalism where it’s basically just white nationalism with the white part crossed out or broadly redefined.
Just surprised that combining communist methodology with right wing ideology was so effective, but all it really cost was some internal consistency which the far right never gave much of a shit about anyway.
That's because (IMO) it was never really "communist" methodology, but authoritarian.
(Still IMO and probably off-topic, actual communism has never been successfully applied or even attempted above the community/small tribe level, and probably can't, because humans.)
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Basically, yeah. The election is to be on December 12th.
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Corbyn also keeps dodging questions on Freedom of Movement, continuing his attempts to have his cake and eat it too.
No we did Brexit on October 31st. Removed from the EU directive on adhering to the concept of time, we are now operating by 1800s standards.
From the Guardian Liveblog this morning - Labour is for Freedom of Movement (probably with restrictions on how long you can stay, like we could have had in the EU but it wasn't worth it)
Wait, which anti-semite was he again?
I assume he's an anti-semite anyway.
Iain is a BBC political correspondent.
Seems sanity has won the day.
The other two were sexual harrassment and anti-LGBT comments.
He's the "antisemitism is fake" guy who's reliably there to defend other Labour members who say that the Holocaust was an act of self-defence against Jewish capitalism and so on
Kinda concerning no one is underlining this. Add to this the investigation into the leave.eu campaign being shut down because it was politcally inconvenient.
Of course no one is talking about it. The Tories benefit
Labour are fucked.
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https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/nov/06/tom-watson-to-quit-as-labour-deputy-leader-and-stand-down-as-mp
I wonder if he finally decided he was never going to be able to steer Corbyn in a more electable direction
EVERYBODY WANTS TO SIT IN THE BIG CHAIR, MEG!
Literally the problem everywhere it's happening. Right-wing parties have more loyalty to their pan-national ideology then to their own nations and so are more then willing to take the help from Russia to win.
Watson timed his resignation to clash with the Tory campaign launch.
Boris has been wiped from the night's news.
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Russia basically has formed a new comintern... A conintern?
Ironic given these parties are typically very nationalist.
Xenophobes and nationalists of the world unite?
Yes. Literally that. And they are much better at it then the workers of the world or whatever.
It's not even that strange. Xenophobic nationalists can get along fairly well as long as they all agree everyone should just stay where they are.
Nah. Look at the UK and polish immigration.
Whoda thunk it?
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Jo Swinson's faintly silly campaign launch with bad sound and a somewhat frenetic delivery now looks like a paragon of organisation compared to the other two. Though of course the Mail, vomit-inducingly, has already compared Johnson to Churchill. I look forward to them comparing Barry Chuckle to John Gielgud soon.
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He's voraciously anti-immigration and has proposed some pretty horrible policies to "dissuade" immigrants from coming to the UK.
Jeremy Corbyn certainly needs to be criticised on the anti-semitism issue but not from someone who said that immigrants should have to pay for NHS care, get no benefits, and be ineligible for council housing. Prick.
So did the Metro and the Sun. All he has to do is flick a V-for-victory sign with his fingers and he's the reincarnation of Churchill, apparently. Fairly low bar!
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He was a better speaker though, Johnson doesn't even have that
Yeah, or Israeli, Brazillian, or Indian Nationalism where it’s basically just white nationalism with the white part crossed out or broadly redefined.
Just surprised that combining communist methodology with right wing ideology was so effective, but all it really cost was some internal consistency which the far right never gave much of a shit about anyway.
1600s standards
Disraeli is spinning in his grave
anybody who hates muslims is a friend i guess?
That's because (IMO) it was never really "communist" methodology, but authoritarian.
(Still IMO and probably off-topic, actual communism has never been successfully applied or even attempted above the community/small tribe level, and probably can't, because humans.)
Damn. :sad: Stay safe up there.
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a survation poll showing that beautiful brexit party spoiler effect. thank u nigel
EDIT: Nevermind, it's local.
Sheffield is right in the middle of that cluster of red
It wet
So that's definitely happening then.
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