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"Notarized letter" - where to get it done?
Ok, probably easy enough answer- I need a notarized letter declaring I am the owner of a safe.
The woman explained to me that in Canada I might be able to get the equivalent done by a bank with a stamp.
Someone other than a family member to say "yes this person has this safe and it is theirs".
Is there ususally a type of business or place you go for this sort of thing? Or should I just head down to my bank? I'll have the safe in the car with me - could I run into someone not wanting to notarize my letter because they might not believe it's mine?
Is there a template or something I could use for the letter or what should it cover besides signatures of both people, the date for each, and our names in print?
thanx
edit: hmmm seems I would see a "Notary Public" in this case.... but fuck me they want $40 for one notarization? Is there a cheaper way of doing this? I called my bank and they dont provide that kind of service at all.
I'm not quite sure why your trying to do this, but at the very least the safe should have a serial number or something similar. Simply write a letter stating: "Deusfaux is the titled owner of the brandname safe serial #12345" Go to a notary public and have it signed. (most lawyers have one or just check the phone book)
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"Give a man a fire, he's warm for the night. Set a man on fire he's warm for the rest of his life."
-Terry Pratchett
yeah I had just never needed the services of one before so I didnt know anything about them. are they always this expensive?
and I'm doing it cuz I need the combination from the manufacturer to get into it :P
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Descendant XSkyrim is my god now.Outpost 31Registered Userregular
edited May 2007
You're going to have to cough up the $40 bucks to get it done. The same thing happened to me when someone stole an MSP cheque from me a couple of years ago. I had to provide BC Medical with a copy of my signature on a notarized letter that cost me $40. It was worth it for the $1400 that MSP owed me.
Although it still took them 4 months to get me the replacement cheque...
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Garry: I know you gentlemen have been through a lot, but when you find the time I'd rather not spend the rest of the winter TIED TO THIS FUCKING COUCH!
Heh to be perfectly honest I've never had to pay for the service, JAG does it for free, know any real estate agents? Sometimes they'll become notary's to make a little extra cash on the side. Good luck though.
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"Give a man a fire, he's warm for the night. Set a man on fire he's warm for the rest of his life."
-Terry Pratchett
I'm just wondering if there are places other than these law services that can do it and would likely do it for less/free. Like a bank or maybe postal office.... maybe a local government official. hmmm
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Descendant XSkyrim is my god now.Outpost 31Registered Userregular
edited May 2007
As far as I know the only folk who do it are Notary Publics. If you know a government official personally you may be able to ask them for help, but as it stands it looks like you're going to be $40 poorer before you get that safe open.
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Garry: I know you gentlemen have been through a lot, but when you find the time I'd rather not spend the rest of the winter TIED TO THIS FUCKING COUCH!
Your City Hall might have one, or the county court house. I would assume there are all sorts of legal documents that need to be notarized, they'll still charge you money though. If you know anyone in the canadian military ask them, like I said I get to use JAG for free notary services, they might be able to help you out.
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"Give a man a fire, he's warm for the night. Set a man on fire he's warm for the rest of his life."
-Terry Pratchett
Gah this will all have to wait till tomorrow cuz of Victoria Day (statutory holiday up here).
I'm figuring this safe has some drugs in it, as you can hear something inside, and it's my drug dealing-on-probation brother's. It only just appeared recently and he had one before, but they forced him to get rid of it. He thought he could hide this one in the garage. It's a Sentry Safe with combination and lock.
Yeah I found where mine is but nobody answered the phone... I assume even MLAs get the day off.
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Descendant XSkyrim is my god now.Outpost 31Registered Userregular
edited May 2007
If you think that the safe has drugs in it, I would suggest that you take it to the RCMP and let them deal with it. They may be able to open it for free, although it may not be in any condition to use afterward.
EDIT: Anyone aside from Deusfaux who replies with anything to the effect of "you can;t turn in you're bro to the fuzz!!11oneone!" can fuck right off.
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Garry: I know you gentlemen have been through a lot, but when you find the time I'd rather not spend the rest of the winter TIED TO THIS FUCKING COUCH!
The RCMP have already suggested they cant pick it up or even accept it if I give it to them based on only a hunch. They would need a stronger legal suspicion that it contains drugs and as sure as I am that's whats knocking around in there, it's not enough for them to go on.
So... if I get it cracked open myself and I find drugs, I can turn them/him in then.
Even if I could find a notary available today (doesnt look like it) I'd still need a locksmith likely as it has a key part to it too and they'd need to pick it... so I think all I have left to try is find an open locksmith. Though I tried several earlier today and they were all either not answering or on "emergency services" mode only.
I'd rather get this done now before he realises it's not where he left it. If confronted I'll have to lie for now and tell him the RCMP picked it up so he doesnt dump all the blame on me and doesnt think I have it in my possession.
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Descendant XSkyrim is my god now.Outpost 31Registered Userregular
edited May 2007
You've got all the bases covered, don't ya?
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Garry: I know you gentlemen have been through a lot, but when you find the time I'd rather not spend the rest of the winter TIED TO THIS FUCKING COUCH!
fucksauce i dont think any locksmiths are doin their shit either. But at least one of them just now told me because of their relationship in the industry by coming in with the safe and some ID I wouldnt need to get the combination from Sentry myself and all the crap that THAT requires. They would be able to ask over the phone and get it right there. Attempt to pick the tubular lock for maybe half an hour and then that's about all I can do short of drilling it or ordering a new set of keys. The cost involved in that and the still existent potential that maybe this thing DOESNT have drugs means I wouldnt go further. My brother would probably flip out about his then broken safe and try to stab me too. :P
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Descendant XSkyrim is my god now.Outpost 31Registered Userregular
edited May 2007
You're really going to have to let us know what's in that thing if you ever get it open...
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Garry: I know you gentlemen have been through a lot, but when you find the time I'd rather not spend the rest of the winter TIED TO THIS FUCKING COUCH!
You're really going to have to let us know what's in that thing if you ever get it open...
Mostly likely marijuana of some kind. But knowing his history, extacy, salvia, cigarettes, booze, mushrooms, or wads of cash could be in there, or maybe something new like coke.
Things may be vastly different in Canada regarding this, but as a few have said, it's not that expensive in the States. I had to get something notarized on a Saturday and I went to a Realtor's Office. It cost me $2.
You won't have any luck finding anyone open today. It's Victoria Day, afterall. I'd just sit on it until tomorrow when you can go to the Notary Public, find a locksmith, and get the RCMP involved, all in one day!
its very easy to become a notary. cehck Kinkos or any local copy/print places. They'll almost always have a notary around(for people shipping legal documents and whatnot)
Duessfax, wouldn't the locksmith who opened the safe notice it has drugs in it and report you to the police if they are in there? I mean you are even going to have a notarized note saying its owned by you. I mean you probably wouldn't be the one who gets the blame, but you never know.
Well I could always tell him in advance what the deal is or stretch the truth a bit and say this is my safe, but I need it opened because I think my brother stashed drugs in it.
I was intending to call the RCMP immediately upon finding any (like - from the locksmith's) anyways.
Note that in the United States (not sure about Canada):
1) A notarization only guarantees that a particular document was signed by the individual who claims to have signed it. That is, the notary verifies that I, John Smith, signed the document in his/her presence and that I presented adequate ID (usually a government ID) to prove that I am, in fact, John Smith.
2) The signature has to be done in the presence of the notary public.
3) A notary can charge for a signature but doesn't have to. If you have a family member or friend who is a notary, they can notarize for no charge as a favor.
4) A notarized letter doesn't guarantee anything more than a signature. I'm not sure why a safe company or a locksmith or anybody, really, would accept a notarized signature from just anybody who's not a family member (and how do they determine that?) A notarization doesn't guarantee the veracity of anything IN the document. So, I could put "I am the richest man in the world!" in a document, or "I am the owner of such-and-such safe" or "I own the mansion at such-and-such address," have it notarized, and all the notarization will show is that I was indeed the one that signed the paper. The notary doesn't care what the paper says and is not attesting to anything it says.
Duessfax, wouldn't the locksmith who opened the safe notice it has drugs in it and report you to the police if they are in there? I mean you are even going to have a notarized note saying its owned by you. I mean you probably wouldn't be the one who gets the blame, but you never know.
I don't know how things work in Canada, but in the States, guys like locksmiths, surveyors, plumbers, electricians, etc., tend to have tunnel vision; they just see what they're doing, and not much beyond it. Because locksmiths and surveyors who get a reputation for seeing things they shouldn't tend to see their businesses go downhill.
Bad development - RCMP thinks I wouldnt be able to use it against should I find any because of the nature of it being his private property etc/something.... AND even possibly I could get in trouble for going through it in the first place.
He says Mom or Dad would probably have more leeway to do this, and the courts would see things differently as it's their house and such.
So I can't go anywhere with my plans, only try to convince Mom she should do this. Problem is, she just wants the thing out of the house and isn't too concerned with what's in it. Being his mom, she probably doesnt want to go for his throat as much as I do. I see it as a an opportunity to nail something on him and get him both out of my life for a while/ get him the only treatment that might work at this point (jailtime). She'd rather just let the cops sorta catch up with him eventually (if ever). I want to help them along, dammit!
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and I'm doing it cuz I need the combination from the manufacturer to get into it :P
Although it still took them 4 months to get me the replacement cheque...
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But.. what the fuck state do you live in. I am a notary in Florida and I can only charge 10 dollars as the legal limit. 40 dollars is a dream.
But anyway: The UPS Store usually has a notary and they will probably price competatively. (if they have UPS stores around you)
we also talk about other random shit and clown upon each other
Apparently MLAs are granted the same powers as Notary Publics... now to track one down (or find someone else who can do them :P)
Sadly it looks like everything I want to do today I cant because of the holiday. No locksmiths open, nobody around.
I am in Edmonton, Alberta, Canada.
I'm figuring this safe has some drugs in it, as you can hear something inside, and it's my drug dealing-on-probation brother's. It only just appeared recently and he had one before, but they forced him to get rid of it. He thought he could hide this one in the garage. It's a Sentry Safe with combination and lock.
http://www.assembly.ab.ca/lao/mla/mla_help.htm
That ought to help you. My MLA has an office that I can just drop in whenever I need something.
EDIT: Anyone aside from Deusfaux who replies with anything to the effect of "you can;t turn in you're bro to the fuzz!!11oneone!" can fuck right off.
So... if I get it cracked open myself and I find drugs, I can turn them/him in then.
Even if I could find a notary available today (doesnt look like it) I'd still need a locksmith likely as it has a key part to it too and they'd need to pick it... so I think all I have left to try is find an open locksmith. Though I tried several earlier today and they were all either not answering or on "emergency services" mode only.
I'd rather get this done now before he realises it's not where he left it. If confronted I'll have to lie for now and tell him the RCMP picked it up so he doesnt dump all the blame on me and doesnt think I have it in my possession.
Mostly likely marijuana of some kind. But knowing his history, extacy, salvia, cigarettes, booze, mushrooms, or wads of cash could be in there, or maybe something new like coke.
He is newly 17.
I was intending to call the RCMP immediately upon finding any (like - from the locksmith's) anyways.
1) A notarization only guarantees that a particular document was signed by the individual who claims to have signed it. That is, the notary verifies that I, John Smith, signed the document in his/her presence and that I presented adequate ID (usually a government ID) to prove that I am, in fact, John Smith.
2) The signature has to be done in the presence of the notary public.
3) A notary can charge for a signature but doesn't have to. If you have a family member or friend who is a notary, they can notarize for no charge as a favor.
4) A notarized letter doesn't guarantee anything more than a signature. I'm not sure why a safe company or a locksmith or anybody, really, would accept a notarized signature from just anybody who's not a family member (and how do they determine that?) A notarization doesn't guarantee the veracity of anything IN the document. So, I could put "I am the richest man in the world!" in a document, or "I am the owner of such-and-such safe" or "I own the mansion at such-and-such address," have it notarized, and all the notarization will show is that I was indeed the one that signed the paper. The notary doesn't care what the paper says and is not attesting to anything it says.
He says Mom or Dad would probably have more leeway to do this, and the courts would see things differently as it's their house and such.
So I can't go anywhere with my plans, only try to convince Mom she should do this. Problem is, she just wants the thing out of the house and isn't too concerned with what's in it. Being his mom, she probably doesnt want to go for his throat as much as I do. I see it as a an opportunity to nail something on him and get him both out of my life for a while/ get him the only treatment that might work at this point (jailtime). She'd rather just let the cops sorta catch up with him eventually (if ever). I want to help them along, dammit!
sigh.