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Dibby

i'm not sure Rogue really needs any extra help with card draw rn tbh.......

that 1 drop seems INSANELY strong though, what the fuck.



edit: also can we TALK about how they basically gave Pyroblast to Demon Hunters???? like the fuck??? that's an insanely strong finisher? and it can be run in any kind of deck???

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ObiFett wrote: »

I needed a gnome to post. wrote: »

tracking already didn't have a discard : )

Is this one of those weird things where because it doesn't discard from the hand its not really discard for the purposes of strategy or whatever?

Because tracking totally does "discard"...

tracking doesn't discard because it's like shuffling cards to the bottom of your deck

3cl1ps3

Tracking discards but only in games that go to fatigue. Which is pretty rare for Hunter.

Ilpala

I feel like people are missing that Sightless Watcher doesn't put the card in your hand. It's Scry for those familiar with Magic.

It's still powerful! But not card draw powerful.

E: Lol, well, fuck me. Misread and thought it was only looking at the top 3. But then you also can't control which three cards it reveals? I don't know. It's good, but not broken, I feel.

Elvenshae

MNC Dover wrote: »

Just saw a silly Mecha'Thun OTK with Warrior. The combo is:

• Boomship pulls Mecha'Thun, Kael'Thas, and whatever 3rd minion
• Cast Whirlwind (damages all your minions)
• Cast Plague of Wrath (now free thanks to Kael) to kill all your damaged minions

... and because it's Warrior, they run approximately 400 board clears in addition to the above combo.

The Judge

Sightless Watcher at 3-fucking-2 is where I feel cursed to hear whatever summon announcement it makes on repeat for the next two years.

MNC Dover

Elvenshae wrote: »

MNC Dover wrote: »

Just saw a silly Mecha'Thun OTK with Warrior. The combo is:

• Boomship pulls Mecha'Thun, Kael'Thas, and whatever 3rd minion
• Cast Whirlwind (damages all your minions)
• Cast Plague of Wrath (now free thanks to Kael) to kill all your damaged minions

... and because it's Warrior, they run approximately 400 board clears in addition to the above combo.

Armor gain, card draw, and board clears. What’s not to love?

3cl1ps3

The Judge wrote: »

Sightless Watcher at 3-fucking-2 is where I feel cursed to hear whatever summon announcement it makes on repeat for the next two years.

It's a Basic card baby, you're hearing it for the rest of the game's life.

MNC Dover

RegisKillbin is saving Sightless Watcher isn’t that good. Like, a 3 out of 5-star card. He compares it to Novice Engineer which he says is better.

https://twitter.com/regiskillbin/status/1242521370392702976?s=21

Marty81

On turn 2? Pretty frequently.

On later turns? Depends how much card draw I have in the deck.

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I don't think it's correct to compare Sightless Watcher to card draw cards. It's not intended to be a card draw card. It's intended to be a draw-smoothing tool for an aggressive deck, on an aggressively-statted 3/2 body, with a relevant tribal.

Yilias

It's similar to Scry but man that is a super watered down version of it.

Beasteh

Guardian Augmerchant is insane and warrior is going to absolutely love it

Dibby

also let's be real Demon Hunters have an absolute metric fuckton of card draw already

they are not hurting for card draw. this, in fact, plays well with the ridiculous amounts of draw they already have.

so yes, let's compare Sightless Watcher to Novice Engineer without taking into consideration cards like Skull of Gul'dan, Consume Magic, Feast of Souls, and Spectral Sight.

3cl1ps3

I like Regis's content but he is not a pro-player, and famously has said things like "Dragonqueen Alexstrasza isn't actually that good."

He also mostly plays wonky combo and control decks, which like yeah, draw is better for them. But for an aggro or aggressive midrange deck, being able to influence your curve on an aggressive body is a big deal.

MNC Dover

More importantly, TrumpSC agrees with him, so he might be wrong.

forty

Dibby wrote: »

Beasteh wrote: »

sightless watcher is fucking bonkers

tutor effects are so powerful in cardstone

Tracking on a body without discarding the other two is a PRETTY good card

Well, it's not quite Tracking since it doesn't draw the card. It's amazing on turn 2, and a great early-mid game card, but it's a worse top deck.

forty

3clipse wrote: »

The Judge wrote: »

Sightless Watcher at 3-fucking-2 is where I feel cursed to hear whatever summon announcement it makes on repeat for the next two years.

It's a Basic card baby, you're hearing it for the rest of the game's life.

Or until Blizzard decides it's stifling future designs and nerfs or HoFs it!

Muffinatron

I needed a gnome to post. wrote: »

I don't think it's correct to compare Sightless Watcher to card draw cards. It's not intended to be a card draw card. It's intended to be a draw-smoothing tool for an aggressive deck, on an aggressively-statted 3/2 body, with a relevant tribal.

And combos with Outcast cards because you can guarantee that whatever card you're putting on the top of your deck will be the furthest right card in your hand next turn.

zepherin

I am getting just whooped with the new battlegrounds meta. It’s faster and has more aggressive stat growth than I was used too. I need to adjust.

Sensational

I'm enjoying you guys flipping out over the card reveals way more than the actual cards. Thanks and keep it going.

The Escape Goat

Beasteh wrote: »

Guardian Augmerchant is insane and warrior is going to absolutely love it

oh that's super dumb with bloosworn mercenary

Dibby

guardian augmerchant is going to be the sleeper of the set

that card is absolutely fucking busted and people are going to sleep so fucking hard on it

forty

This thread hasn't been sleeping on it.

Dibby

forty wrote: »

This thread hasn't been sleeping on it.

YOUR MOM HASN'T BEEN SLEEPING ON IT FORTY

Marty81

Hey so when does everything go live? Specifically,

-When can I open packs again? (Dupe protection)
-By when do I need to craft stuff that's rotating to get the full dust refund?
-When does stuff rotate/when does the expansion come out?

GoodKingJayIII

Sightless Watcher by itself doesn't strike me as this fucking insane card, just really good.

I'd put it in every demon hunter deck. It's like Ziliax: why wouldn't you? That might be a definition of broken, but I don't know if I agree with that. I play a lot of commander, however, so take that with a grain of salt.

But yeah, sure looks like they're pushing the hell out of DH.

Beasteh

Big wombo: Kael twin slice second slice Kayn inner demon

bwanie

Ungh, streaked to rank 6 and then lost all the way back to 8 and 3 stars because nothing but priests was playing in town.

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bwanie

Sure, why not?

Edit: oh it's a 2/1 instead of a 1/2. Slightly less bullshit but whatever.

Dibby

the fuck did i just say about Demon Hunters not hurting for draw

this makes the whole Novice Engineer comparison even more fucking stupid

Elvenshae

What's Outcast do?

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Elvenshae wrote: »

What's Outcast do?

Outcast is an effect that only triggers if you play it as the leftmost or the rightmost card in your hand

ObiFett

I needed a gnome to post. wrote: »

I guarantee that if this is ever in my opening hand it will be in the middle of my hand

reVerse

ObiFett wrote: »

I needed a gnome to post. wrote: »

I guarantee that if this is ever in my opening hand it will be in the middle of my hand

As it should be, finger-wise.

Dibby

MNC Dover wrote: »

More importantly, TrumpSC agrees with him, so he might be wrong.

I needed anime to post.

I think a better idea than comparing it to card draw cards is comparing it to various other class 2 mana 3/2s like Sorcerer's Apprentice, where sometimes you get benefit from them, and sometimes they're just a 3/2 that you play out for curve and tempo

Elvenshae

Shit, that's cold.

Dibby

https://twitter.com/Celestalon/status/1242544661635293184

also here's this handy lil' schedule for Stuff And Things