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    I needed anime to post.I needed anime to post. boom Registered User regular
    i just realized that because these cards are all mostly in story order this means there is no card depicting the actual confrontation between heliod and elspeth and what the fuck how do you fuck up the story that badly

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    PiptheFairPiptheFair Frequently not in boats. Registered User regular
    i just realized that because these cards are all mostly in story order this means there is no card depicting the actual confrontation between heliod and elspeth and what the fuck how do you fuck up the story that badly

    next time on dragonball z

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    Styrofoam SammichStyrofoam Sammich WANT. normal (not weird)Registered User regular
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    I needed anime to post.I needed anime to post. boom Registered User regular
    ugh that's the kind of garbage that i fucking love

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    BahamutZEROBahamutZERO Registered User regular
    heliod only has to wait four turns and then he's fine? some punishment!

    is heliod being punished or giving the punishment

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    Kevin CristKevin Crist I make the devil hit his knees and say the 'our father'Registered User regular
    Each aura you control.

    Make good use of Dead Weight.

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    I needed anime to post.I needed anime to post. boom Registered User regular
    heliod only has to wait four turns and then he's fine? some punishment!

    is heliod being punished or giving the punishment

    it appears to be heliod forced to hold up the sun

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    Styrofoam SammichStyrofoam Sammich WANT. normal (not weird)Registered User regular
    ugh that's the kind of garbage that i fucking love

    I mean its not a bad body

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    I needed anime to post.I needed anime to post. boom Registered User regular
    i would probably call it a bad body

    being a one drop enchantment creature is potentially very useful however as a result of the legendary harpy that lets you exile an enchantment from your gy at the end of the turn to make a zombie, that harpy is super above rate if you get even one activation in the first two turns it's up

    getting a good density of enchantment creatures to support that thing helps a lot, and potentially allows Mono-B Devo to have an enchantment theme to shit out zombos

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    Ivan HungerIvan Hunger Registered User regular
    i just realized that because these cards are all mostly in story order this means there is no card depicting the actual confrontation between heliod and elspeth and what the fuck how do you fuck up the story that badly

    It's in the background of Elspeth's alternate art card.

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    The Escape GoatThe Escape Goat incorrigible ruminant they/themRegistered User regular
    ugh that's the kind of garbage that i fucking love

    what's better than madcap skills? madcap skills that cycles

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    I needed anime to post.I needed anime to post. boom Registered User regular
    madcap skills is a perfectly designed aggressive card

    inherent card disadvantage? yes. 2 mana for 3 damage? yes. asks you to turn dude sideways No Matter What? yes.

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    milskimilski Poyo! Registered User regular
    Aldo, Hateful Eidolon is Yet Another Card people are yelling at for being not-white, at the same time they're praising the synergy of turning Deadweight into a cantripping kill spell

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    PinfeldorfPinfeldorf Yeah ZestRegistered User regular
    Madcap Skills is what Hellspark Elemental shoulda did.

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    KalTorakKalTorak One way or another, they all end up in the Undercity.Registered User regular
    on the plus side, white does get this creature that everyone will have to read at least twice and then again every time something dies
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    ElbasunuElbasunu Registered User regular
    My family is from Neos Milotopos so I keep thinking the thread title is "Escape from Neos Milotopos" like Escape from New York.

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    DrascinDrascin Registered User regular
    turtleant wrote: »
    The whole Eldrazi AND Bolas shit when through their whole arcs since then.

    That's the reason why it's been left open for so long.

    Back in the old days, they used to just throw plot threads out into the Æther, assuming they'd get tied up by someone else eventually.

    Now they have these multiyear stories that are all planned out in advance, like sagas in Dragonball Z.

    What does "planned in advance" have to do with Dragonball Z? Toriyama hasn't planned past next week in his life!
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    It begins.

    Ah fucking Christ. Here we go with the goddamn Phyrexians again.

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    Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    The first three arcs of DBZ seemed relatively planned compared to like

    Literally everything else in the series

    Humor can be dissected as a frog can, but dies in the process.
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    nightmarennynightmarenny Registered User regular
    i just realized that because these cards are all mostly in story order this means there is no card depicting the actual confrontation between heliod and elspeth and what the fuck how do you fuck up the story that badly

    It's in the background of Elspeth's alternate art card.

    A solid five cards should have been devoted to her destroying him this is bullshit.

    This might sound like Im joking but I'm not. Fuck heliod he is the worst give me the catharsis.

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    NeveronNeveron HellValleySkyTree SwedenRegistered User regular
    Big villains don't get to die anymore, presumably because you might want to reuse them. Emrakul seals herself in the moon and is inevitably going to get out whenever they want to bring back Eldrazi, Nicol Bolas is in the Prison Realm with Ugin as his jailor but will get out if they ever want to reuse him, and Heliod survives because they need some threat for Theros 3: Tokyo Drift.

    This seems to be the recent trend, at least, much like how a while back they were big into having blocks that (re)introduced a plane and then spent the last set destroying it. (RIP Alara, Mirrodin, Tarkir, etc.)

    Maybe they looked back at how when they finally killed of Yawgmoth the story was kind of aimless for a while? I dunno. In this specific case they're probably playing it safe since their actual story presentation for THB is minimal.

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    turtleantturtleant Gunpla Dad is the best.Registered User regular
    What you think the over/under on Bolas coming back is? 3 years maybe? 2?

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    NeveronNeveron HellValleySkyTree SwedenRegistered User regular
    Longer, probably. They're going to do some shorter more self-contained stories for a bit (Eldraine, Theros, probably Ikoria and Zendikar 3), then the next Big Threat is probably going to be New Phyrexia (there's even foreshadowing in this set! Ashiok likes them!).

    I figure that after New New Phyrexia (which might end up being a huge story in itself, like the return to the Eldrazi and Bolas stories) they'll probably have another cooldown period and then either try to establish a new threat or bring back whatever old threat is the most popular.

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    KwoaruKwoaru Confident Smirk Flawless Golden PecsRegistered User regular
    edited January 2020
    Drascin wrote: »
    turtleant wrote: »
    The whole Eldrazi AND Bolas shit when through their whole arcs since then.

    That's the reason why it's been left open for so long.

    Back in the old days, they used to just throw plot threads out into the Æther, assuming they'd get tied up by someone else eventually.

    Now they have these multiyear stories that are all planned out in advance, like sagas in Dragonball Z.

    What does "planned in advance" have to do with Dragonball Z? Toriyama hasn't planned past next week in his life!
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    It begins.

    Ah fucking Christ. Here we go with the goddamn Phyrexians again.

    Well since right now its just Ashiok nightmares they're more like fauxrexyians

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    ChaosHatChaosHat Hop, hop, hop, HA! Trick of the lightRegistered User regular
    edited January 2020
    Man maybe it's the period I started playing in but we need MORE Phyrexians. Phyrexians all the god damn time. It's just not Magic unless there's the threat of becoming a horrifying murder monster that betrays everything you've ever loved.

    I think the Phyrexians were something that helped Magic stand apart from a lot of generic fantasy for me. The whole "assimilating horrors" thing is done a lot in sci fi but not as much in fantasy, especially the whole modification with machines and oil part of it.

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    VyolynceVyolynce Registered User regular
    Full image gallery is up, as is a story summary.

    Calix's spark is awakened...
    When he cannot stop Elspeth, which was the only reason Klothys created him.

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    Ivan HungerIvan Hunger Registered User regular
    Drascin wrote: »
    What does "planned in advance" have to do with Dragonball Z? Toriyama hasn't planned past next week in his life!

    In DBZ, there are these very concrete points where the current threat has ended and the next threat is about to begin. The Saiyan Saga, the Frieza Saga, the Cell Saga, the Buu Saga, etc.

    That's what the current approach to storytelling in M:TG feels like. The Eldrazi Saga, the Bolas Saga, the New Phyrexia Saga, etc. If you look at how they structured the Bolas Saga in particular, you can see how they knew where they wanted to end up and built their schedule backward from that point.
    turtleant wrote: »
    What you think the over/under on Bolas coming back is? 3 years maybe? 2?

    Roadmap for the future of M:tG's story:

    New Phyrexia (3 years)
    The Bizarro Gatewatch (2 years)
    Memnarch, Konda-sama, Szadek, Oona, and Xenagos resurrection and team-up (3 years)
    The Sliver Deity (2 years)
    Planum, the Living Plane (3 years)
    The Space: The Convergence multiverse (3 years)
    Richard Garfield (5 years)
    The Five Dominarias ft. Rath and Mercadia (4 years)
    Urza's headless body (3 years)
    Blugthak, who you don't know yet but you will (2 years)
    Bolas returns with an army of Compleated Eldrazi Eternals (4 years)

    After that, Hasbro is purchased by Disney, and Magic: The Gathering is cancelled so as to not cannibalize sales of the Frozen trading card game.

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    BreakfastPMBreakfastPM Registered User regular
    My uncle works at both WotC and Disney and this checks out with the secret plans he's let me see.

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    KalTorakKalTorak One way or another, they all end up in the Undercity.Registered User regular
    edited January 2020
    between devotion, enchantment theme, and flavor, I guess there was no getting around this reprint
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    milskimilski Poyo! Registered User regular
    edited January 2020
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    Madcap Skills got a glo-up. Even more "turn sideways", even more blowout potential

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    ZeroCowZeroCow Registered User regular
    Vyolynce wrote: »
    Full image gallery is up, as is a story summary.

    Calix's spark is awakened...
    When he cannot stop Elspeth, which was the only reason Klothys created him.
    I like it because Theros is a plane where belief shapes reality. Calix needs to do it because it's his mission and so he does.

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    I needed anime to post.I needed anime to post. boom Registered User regular
    3 mana and no menace is NO MADCAP SKILLS, SIR

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    milskimilski Poyo! Registered User regular
    3 mana and no menace is NO MADCAP SKILLS, SIR

    Oh no, you've slain my argument.

    *My argument deals 3 damage to me*

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    WotanAnubisWotanAnubis Registered User regular
    Vyolynce wrote: »
    Full image gallery is up, as is a story summary.

    Calix's spark is awakened...
    When he cannot stop Elspeth, which was the only reason Klothys created him.

    So we have the summary of the story, but not the actual story.

    That's. I mean. I guess it's something. But.

    Still can't help but wonder what they're doing over there in the story department.

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    milskimilski Poyo! Registered User regular
    The comprehensive rules changes make a joke about gold tokens having 79 electrons and I'm mildly peeved because it's protons that define element, not electrons.

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    Ivan HungerIvan Hunger Registered User regular
    People complained about the lore being hidden behind a paywall, and now it isn't.

    Not saying paid novels are better or worse than free, brief summaries on the website. Just making an observation.

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    WotanAnubisWotanAnubis Registered User regular
    People complained about the lore being hidden behind a paywall, and now it isn't.

    Not saying paid novels are better or worse than free, brief summaries on the website. Just making an observation.

    Part of me feels like the handling of Theros' story is a somewhat panicked somewhat unplanned response to the disastrous reception of the War of the Spark books.

    Not the Eldraine book, though. That one was pretty well received.

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    PiptheFairPiptheFair Frequently not in boats. Registered User regular
    The book where they de-gayed Chandra? That was not we’ll received at all!

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    WhippyWhippy Moderator, Admin Emeritus Admin Emeritus
    that was in the second war of the spark novel, not eldraine story

    ...wasn't it

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    milskimilski Poyo! Registered User regular
    PiptheFair wrote: »
    The book where they de-gayed Chandra? That was not we’ll received at all!

    That was not the eldraine book

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    I needed anime to post.I needed anime to post. boom Registered User regular
    Chandra was not in the Eldraine book

    Most people don’t know there was an Eldraine book

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