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  • TryCatcherTryCatcher Registered User regular
    Counterpoint: WotC hates Storm and decks that play like Storm. Also, Breach ended up pretty much being as busted as everybody said it was since is basically Yawgmoth's Will.

    I said "my bet", since there's already a format with a bunch of combo decks and a bunch of aggro decks trying to race each other, is called Modern. Pioneer is going to be more closely watched and that means banning combo decks when they break the 15% threshold.

    But if they want to "let the meta develop", Dig was always going to be a problem since it vastly benefits combo decks more.

  • BreakfastPMBreakfastPM Registered User regular
    edited February 10
    I finished up building a 360 card cube about a month ago and finally got to play it on Friday! Our group is pretty small and we were only able to get 4 people together so we did a Sealed round-robin.

    I went 3-0 with this:
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    But, I think that everyone made some really cool decks
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    My hardest fought match was against this:
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    This was the coolest build in my opinion: (In one game the dude beat my face in with Ghalta and Pelakka Wurm after casting Beast Within *FOUR* times. New Thassa is in the cube as well and thankfully he didn't get her)
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    BreakfastPM on
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  • turtleantturtleant Gunpla Dad is the best.Registered User regular


    *stares into the middle distance* hooo

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  • PinfeldorfPinfeldorf Realtor Santa ClaritaRegistered User regular
    I finished up building a 360 card cube about a month ago and finally got to play it on Friday! Our group is pretty small and we were only able to get 4 people together so we did a Sealed round-robin.

    I went 3-0 with this:
    l6200tdudmd0.png

    But, I think that everyone made some really cool decks
    zfpof3gtv8i3.png

    My hardest fought match was against this:
    1nkiw1dw9byk.png

    This was the coolest build in my opinion: (In one game the dude beat my face in with Ghalta and Pelakka Wurm after casting Beast Within *FOUR* times. New Thassa is in the cube as well and thankfully he didn't get her)
    lypo3bc2uc3d.png

    Is there no red in your cube or was everyone's red just too thin? Or is your playgroup too value-obsessed?

  • BreakfastPMBreakfastPM Registered User regular
    Pinfeldorf wrote: »
    I finished up building a 360 card cube about a month ago and finally got to play it on Friday! Our group is pretty small and we were only able to get 4 people together so we did a Sealed round-robin.

    I went 3-0 with this:
    l6200tdudmd0.png

    But, I think that everyone made some really cool decks
    zfpof3gtv8i3.png

    My hardest fought match was against this:
    1nkiw1dw9byk.png

    This was the coolest build in my opinion: (In one game the dude beat my face in with Ghalta and Pelakka Wurm after casting Beast Within *FOUR* times. New Thassa is in the cube as well and thankfully he didn't get her)
    lypo3bc2uc3d.png

    Is there no red in your cube or was everyone's red just too thin? Or is your playgroup too value-obsessed?

    There is red in the cube. I think there's a couple things that happened...
    • We played Sealed and red is [somewhat] historically weaker in that format. Not saying that's true here; just that it might have influenced people away from it
    • We are a bunch of value-obsessed nerds
    • I looked at people's pools afterwords and I don't think anyone really hit a critical mass. One person had what looked like a pretty good Izzet deck but they also love GW and that's what they played

    We're going to try drafting next time and I think that will help to put someone into red. I think the other colors played out really well with what people built at least!

  • VyolynceVyolynce Registered User regular
    Pinfeldorf wrote: »
    I finished up building a 360 card cube about a month ago and finally got to play it on Friday! Our group is pretty small and we were only able to get 4 people together so we did a Sealed round-robin.

    I went 3-0 with this:
    l6200tdudmd0.png

    But, I think that everyone made some really cool decks
    zfpof3gtv8i3.png

    My hardest fought match was against this:
    1nkiw1dw9byk.png

    This was the coolest build in my opinion: (In one game the dude beat my face in with Ghalta and Pelakka Wurm after casting Beast Within *FOUR* times. New Thassa is in the cube as well and thankfully he didn't get her)
    lypo3bc2uc3d.png

    Is there no red in your cube or was everyone's red just too thin? Or is your playgroup too value-obsessed?

    There is red in the cube. I think there's a couple things that happened...
    • We played Sealed and red is [somewhat] historically weaker in that format. Not saying that's true here; just that it might have influenced people away from it
    • We are a bunch of value-obsessed nerds
    • I looked at people's pools afterwords and I don't think anyone really hit a critical mass. One person had what looked like a pretty good Izzet deck but they also love GW and that's what they played

    We're going to try drafting next time and I think that will help to put someone into red. I think the other colors played out really well with what people built at least!

    A fun draft variant for 4 players is something Ryan Spain calls "double decker". Each player gets 6 packs and those are drafted 2HG style (2 cards per pick, l/r/l/r/l/r). Then you each build 2 decks, Deck A and Deck B. Proceed to play the following best-of-one games until someone gets 3 wins:

    A1 vs A2
    B1 vs B2
    A1 vs B2
    B1 vs A2

    If game 5 is necessary, your opponent chooses which deck you play.

    My buddies and I have done this with our cubes (gotta remember to make 14-card packs instead of 15) and it's a blast.

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  • PinfeldorfPinfeldorf Realtor Santa ClaritaRegistered User regular
    Honestly with 4 people, rochester is super good. Four packs of 11.

    BreakfastPM
  • jgeisjgeis Registered User regular
    There was a Hasbro earnings call today, I'll embed some tweets with more deets but the gist is that Magic Arena is up, tabletop is up, MTGO is down and the CEO referred to is as a "legacy product," and Arena will be coming to mobile in 2020 with more info at Toy Fair.



  • VyolynceVyolynce Registered User regular
    jgeis wrote: »
    MTGO is down and the CEO referred to is as a "legacy product,"

    Vintage, too.

  • TryCatcherTryCatcher Registered User regular
    Yesterday there was no banlist update:


    And yes, they’ll announce an unannounced announcement. Because :rotate:

  • FearghaillFearghaill If there is nothing but what we make in this world let us make goodRegistered User regular
    so I am playing around with a Bant Flash deck, which is really just Simic Flash with a splash of W for Flicker of Fate and Angel of Grace

    and while I'm not sure it's necessarily better than regular Simic Flash, it is really, really satisfying to counter something by spending 1W to flicker a Frilled Mystic.

    Especially if the opponent saw you spend your only blue mana on bouncing something with Brazen Borrower, and thought it was safe to try and cast Nissa.

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  • VyolynceVyolynce Registered User regular
    Fearghaill wrote: »
    so I am playing around with a Bant Flash deck, which is really just Simic Flash with a splash of W for Flicker of Fate and Angel of Grace

    and while I'm not sure it's necessarily better than regular Simic Flash, it is really, really satisfying to counter something by spending 1W to flicker a Frilled Mystic.

    Especially if the opponent saw you spend your only blue mana on bouncing something with Brazen Borrower, and thought it was safe to try and cast Nissa.

    Torn between hitting "awesome" and looking for a "you utter bastard" button.

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  • VyolynceVyolynce Registered User regular
    Worlds metagame is... this:

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    One different choice could have resulted in a clean 4/4/4/4 split.

  • jgeisjgeis Registered User regular
    Kinda disappointed that there isn't someone on some weird spicy shit.

  • VyolynceVyolynce Registered User regular
    jgeis wrote: »
    Kinda disappointed that there isn't someone on some weird spicy shit.

    Not the field/event for that, sadly. Way too much on the line.

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  • Styrofoam SammichStyrofoam Sammich WANT. 5386-8443-8937Registered User regular
    A pro level temur mirror match has to be just the most tedious shit

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  • Styrofoam SammichStyrofoam Sammich WANT. 5386-8443-8937Registered User regular
    Vyolynce wrote: »
    jgeis wrote: »
    Kinda disappointed that there isn't someone on some weird spicy shit.

    Not the field/event for that, sadly. Way too much on the line.

    The persom in the top left, can't ever recall their name, they play some off meta stuff some times that's pretty clever.

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  • PiptheFairPiptheFair Registered User regular
    surprised theres no ramp

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  • Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver Registered User, ClubPA regular
    Vyolynce wrote: »
    jgeis wrote: »
    Kinda disappointed that there isn't someone on some weird spicy shit.

    Not the field/event for that, sadly. Way too much on the line.

    The persom in the top left, can't ever recall their name, they play some off meta stuff some times that's pretty clever.

    You mean Autumn?

    And going by that picture, Jund Sacrifice is your off meta spicy shit : P

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  • Styrofoam SammichStyrofoam Sammich WANT. 5386-8443-8937Registered User regular
    Vyolynce wrote: »
    jgeis wrote: »
    Kinda disappointed that there isn't someone on some weird spicy shit.

    Not the field/event for that, sadly. Way too much on the line.

    The persom in the top left, can't ever recall their name, they play some off meta stuff some times that's pretty clever.

    You mean Autumn?

    And going by that picture, Jund Sacrifice is your off meta spicy shit : P

    Autumn, thats right. They played mono blue tempo one time last rotation.

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  • VyolynceVyolynce Registered User regular
    Vyolynce wrote: »
    jgeis wrote: »
    Kinda disappointed that there isn't someone on some weird spicy shit.

    Not the field/event for that, sadly. Way too much on the line.

    The persom in the top left, can't ever recall their name, they play some off meta stuff some times that's pretty clever.

    You mean Autumn?

    And going by that picture, Jund Sacrifice is your off meta spicy shit : P

    Autumn, thats right. They played mono blue tempo one time last rotation.

    Yeah monoblue was what they used to win their seat at this event.

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  • SLyMSLyM Registered User regular
    Yeah, I looked at the arena event where you play the decks they're using and immediately noped out of there. Everyone using the same 4 super tuned decks is the antithesis of fun for me.

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  • VyolynceVyolynce Registered User regular
    Holy shit that was some of the worst flood I've ever seen.

  • Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver Registered User, ClubPA regular
    Vyolynce wrote: »
    Holy shit that was some of the worst flood I've ever seen.

    He just needed to draw two or three more cards and he wouldn't have to worry about drawing mana ever again

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  • Blackbeard7Blackbeard7 Registered User regular
    PiptheFair wrote: »
    surprised theres no ramp

    i mean thats essentially what the reclamation deck is now isnt it

    it just kills you with duders or a giant expansion/explosion

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  • VyolynceVyolynce Registered User regular
    edited February 14
    Vyolynce wrote: »
    Holy shit that was some of the worst flood I've ever seen.

    He just needed to draw two or three more cards and he wouldn't have to worry about drawing mana ever again

    And the Funeral Rites binned two 5-drop minotaurs. The entire top half of his deck was Tectonic Giant, Final Death, and trash.

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  • Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver Registered User, ClubPA regular
    Vyolynce wrote: »
    Vyolynce wrote: »
    Holy shit that was some of the worst flood I've ever seen.

    He just needed to draw two or three more cards and he wouldn't have to worry about drawing mana ever again

    And the Funeral Rites binned two 5-drop minotaurs. The entire top half of his deck was Tectonic Giant, Final Death, and trash.

    At least you go home there knowing you played the deck to the best of your ability.

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  • SproutSprout Registered User regular
    I’m starting to get the impression that Embercleave is a good card.

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  • Styrofoam SammichStyrofoam Sammich WANT. 5386-8443-8937Registered User regular
    So sick of endless turbo ramp I welcome rdw with open arms

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  • Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver Registered User, ClubPA regular
    Sprout wrote: »
    I’m starting to get the impression that Embercleave is a good card.

    I said this from the beginning!

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  • 21stCentury21stCentury A lovely pixel artist and gamecrafter [They/Them]Registered User regular
  • Ivan HungerIvan Hunger Registered User regular
    Purphoros for pREseDent.

  • I needed a gnome to post.I needed a gnome to post. i did meet some of the most insufferable people but, they also met meRegistered User regular
    Sprout wrote: »
    I’m starting to get the impression that Embercleave is a good card.

    one of my strongest opinions about mtg right now is that embercleave MUST have a meaningful reprint in the challenger decks, it is too mandatory for red-based aggression

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  • KetarKetar Ready to feel better about your own miserable lives?Registered User regular
    Every once in a great while, the inability to chat in Arena beyond the handful of set phrases is a little frustrating. Obviously we're way better off not having to endure trash talk and whatever. But still. I want to be able to tell KouignJahMan that their name rocks. And having no way to do so made me just a little bit sad just now.

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  • KetarKetar Ready to feel better about your own miserable lives?Registered User regular
    Sprout wrote: »
    I’m starting to get the impression that Embercleave is a good card.

    one of my strongest opinions about mtg right now is that embercleave MUST have a meaningful reprint in the challenger decks, it is too mandatory for red-based aggression

    Or, you know, Embercleave could disappear into the abyss from whence it belongs.

  • I needed a gnome to post.I needed a gnome to post. i did meet some of the most insufferable people but, they also met meRegistered User regular
    embercleave is both mandatory, and also not remotely good enough to ban

    you might as well ban the entirety of standard if you ban embercleave

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  • KetarKetar Ready to feel better about your own miserable lives?Registered User regular
    When/where did banning enter the conversation?

  • Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver Registered User, ClubPA regular
    I predict that temur reclamation will win this match

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  • VyolynceVyolynce Registered User regular
    I semi-randomly picked Nassif for the "Find Your Champion" thing. He's already good for the Arena sleeve and 2 rares by making Top 8 (top 4 really). If he makes the finals that's two more rares, although he has to get past Mansfield and I think the loser of the upper bracket first.

    I think this is PVDDR's title but having him vs Nassif in the finals would be super interesting from a historical perspective.

  • KalTorakKalTorak One way or another, they all end up in the Undercity.Registered User regular
    speaking of the Challenger decks, they're here! https://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/feature/challenger-decks-2020-02-15

    I'm not exactly sure what the meaningful reprints are, I haven't been following prices but there seem to be a lot of dollar-rare level cards, here's my best guesses

    Allied Fires (Jeskai Fires/Superfriends): Kenrith, Steam Vents
    Final Adventure (Golgari adventures): Vraska Golgari Queen, Murderous Rider x2, Fabled Passage
    Cavalcade Charge (mono-red): Embercleave
    Flash of Ferocity (UG flash): Brazen Borrower, Fabled Passage

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