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[MTG] Standard Elk menace defeated. Elks still prevalent in other environments.

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  • KwoaruKwoaru Registered User regular
    Theros spoiler
    i loves those basics but they're definitely gonna be promo or some other kind of special

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  • KnobKnob TURN THE BEAT BACK InternetModerator mod
    Theros spoilers
    I am unreasonably excited about that Underworld Dreams reprint

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  • jgeisjgeis Registered User regular
    edited October 30
    Re: the basic lands in those spoilers:
    It looks like they were pulled from regular boosters per pictures posted on Twitter. Photos of the cards with the booster pack wrappers are being circulated on Twitter. Seems the "found these at Walgreens" story is, wildly, likely true.

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  • QuantumTurkQuantumTurk Registered User regular
    jgeis wrote: »

    That....sounds real bad for standard?

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  • VyolynceVyolynce Registered User regular
  • jgeisjgeis Registered User regular
    Oko is definitely a prominent card in Pioneer as well, but the format is wider simply by nature of having a larger pool of cards.

    Standard is so boring and bad right now, any other format would be an improvement for coverage/interest.

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  • AssuranAssuran Is swinging on the Spiral Registered User regular
    I'm playing stupidly aggressive Rakdos aggro at the moment because at least the games are over quickly. It's not terrible against Oko, but there are definitely games I don't draw an answer by t3 and the game is over.

    Plus, there is something inherently satisfying about embercleaving with a Dreadhorde Butcher or dead dino on t4.

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  • I needed a gnome to post.I needed a gnome to post. i did meet some of the most insufferable people but, they also met meRegistered User regular


    shakeups for the commander print run this year

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    commander decks replacing planeswalker decks for Ikoria and Zendikar because they found that, despite the higher complexity of the format, commander is becoming the primary onboarding experience for new players

    Ikoria is taking the role of the standard commander decks in the year

    commander legends is a draft set with 20 card boosters, two legendary cards per booster

    commander collection is a from the vault/signature spellbook style product, 8 cards reprinted

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  • astrobstrdastrobstrd So full of mercy... Registered User regular
    Any guesses for non-reserved list green commander staples due for a reprint? Doubling Season might be a good headliner.

  • Kevin CristKevin Crist I make the devil hit his knees and say the 'our father'Registered User regular
  • VyolynceVyolynce Registered User regular


    shakeups for the commander print run this year

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    commander decks replacing planeswalker decks for Ikoria and Zendikar because they found that, despite the higher complexity of the format, commander is becoming the primary onboarding experience for new players

    Ikoria is taking the role of the standard commander decks in the year

    commander legends is a draft set with 20 card boosters, two legendary cards per booster

    commander collection is a from the vault/signature spellbook style product, 8 cards reprinted

    I super don't care about any of these despite draft and Commander being my two primary (non-Arena) modes of play. Not sure if it's just new-product burnout or what, but that entire article just bounced right off me...

  • I needed a gnome to post.I needed a gnome to post. i did meet some of the most insufferable people but, they also met meRegistered User regular
    i think with this hobby, if you hear a company representative go "we're making a bunch of products...AIMED AT YOU!", it is a reasonable reaction to breathe in sharply through your teeth and start thinking about how much money that would cost, and if it's really worth it

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  • VyolynceVyolynce Registered User regular
    Even if money weren't an issue (and it is), it still feels like two great tastes that have no business being put together, like pizza and peanut butter.

  • Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver Registered User, ClubPA regular
    Whippy wrote: »
    So, uh. a bunch of theros 2 got spoiled. under this tag is just the link
    i looked. seems like some magic cards.

    Wow, dang
    That sure is a "counterspell for things that can't be counterspelled" huh.

    Except for like, nature's blessing.

    Just gonna make green that much more powerful, huh

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  • PinfeldorfPinfeldorf Realtor Santa ClaritaRegistered User regular
    Vyolynce wrote: »
    Even if money weren't an issue (and it is), it still feels like two great tastes that have no business being put together, like pizza and peanut butter.

    I...hate to tell you, but peanut sauce is excellent with pizza. Basically just peanut butter with chili oil, MSG and soy sauce.

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  • Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver Registered User, ClubPA regular
    Oh.

    oh no
    Graveyard interactions D:

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  • milskimilski UNTZ UNTZ UNTZ UNTZ Registered User regular
    Whippy wrote: »
    So, uh. a bunch of theros 2 got spoiled. under this tag is just the link
    i looked. seems like some magic cards.

    Wow, dang
    That sure is a "counterspell for things that can't be counterspelled" huh.

    Except for like, nature's blessing.

    Just gonna make green that much more powerful, huh
    It's a 4cmc card. It's not going to do much except against 1-wincon decks. Nobody seriously played Commit to Memory last go around.

    Also what does Nature's Blessing do here?

    You can't write me off like that! You're just a voice, pal! You don't know a DAMN THING ABOUT RACING!!
  • milskimilski UNTZ UNTZ UNTZ UNTZ Registered User regular
    Pinfeldorf wrote: »
    Vyolynce wrote: »
    Even if money weren't an issue (and it is), it still feels like two great tastes that have no business being put together, like pizza and peanut butter.

    I...hate to tell you, but peanut sauce is excellent with pizza. Basically just peanut butter with chili oil, MSG and soy sauce.

    So you're telling me 2hg pauper brawl draft is on the menu?

    You can't write me off like that! You're just a voice, pal! You don't know a DAMN THING ABOUT RACING!!
  • DemonStaceyDemonStacey TTODewback's Daughter In love with the TaySwayRegistered User regular
    Oh.

    oh no
    Graveyard interactions D:
    Ashiok: Escape? It would be a shame if someone were... exile your entire graveyard..

    desc wrote: »
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  • Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver Registered User, ClubPA regular
    milski wrote: »
    Whippy wrote: »
    So, uh. a bunch of theros 2 got spoiled. under this tag is just the link
    i looked. seems like some magic cards.

    Wow, dang
    That sure is a "counterspell for things that can't be counterspelled" huh.

    Except for like, nature's blessing.

    Just gonna make green that much more powerful, huh
    It's a 4cmc card. It's not going to do much except against 1-wincon decks. Nobody seriously played Commit to Memory last go around.

    Also what does Nature's Blessing do here?

    I mean
    It's worth a sideboard slot against Big Chandra I think?

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  • VyolynceVyolynce Registered User regular
    Pinfeldorf wrote: »
    Vyolynce wrote: »
    Even if money weren't an issue (and it is), it still feels like two great tastes that have no business being put together, like pizza and peanut butter.

    I...hate to tell you, but peanut sauce is excellent with pizza. Basically just peanut butter with chili oil, MSG and soy sauce.

    *shrug* Hey everybody's got their own flavor mixes.

  • TomantaTomanta Registered User regular
    On one hand, I'm happy for commander draft if it contains good commander reprints and fun new legendaries. I have 0 desire to draft it.

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  • milskimilski UNTZ UNTZ UNTZ UNTZ Registered User regular
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    milski wrote: »
    Whippy wrote: »
    So, uh. a bunch of theros 2 got spoiled. under this tag is just the link
    i looked. seems like some magic cards.

    Wow, dang
    That sure is a "counterspell for things that can't be counterspelled" huh.

    Except for like, nature's blessing.

    Just gonna make green that much more powerful, huh
    It's a 4cmc card. It's not going to do much except against 1-wincon decks. Nobody seriously played Commit to Memory last go around.

    Also what does Nature's Blessing do here?

    I mean
    It's worth a sideboard slot against Big Chandra I think?
    What deck is both threatened enough by big Chandra to want a specific answer to her, slow enough they're willing to play a 4-mana answer to a threat, and wouldn't rather just side in 4-CMC threats that are protected against her or that she can't deal with? I think the only deck that fits is Simic Flash, and even then there's a solid chance you'd rather just flash in a Nightpack Ambusher or pumpable-next-turn Wildborn Preserver to finish the game out.

    You can't write me off like that! You're just a voice, pal! You don't know a DAMN THING ABOUT RACING!!
  • Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver Registered User, ClubPA regular
    MY STUPID JANK DECKS, THAT'S WHO

    *runs away crying*

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  • astrobstrdastrobstrd So full of mercy... Registered User regular
    I've played a commander cube that was very fun.

    4 players, each start with a pack of 4 commanders and draft them as normal. Draft 4 packs of 15. 60 card decks with 30 life and no commander damage rule.

  • nightmarennynightmarenny Registered User regular
    edited October 30
    Huh so
    Looks like no heroic but at least one card with the ability unnamed. Other than escape no other keywords. Ugh just tell me if we are getting devotion or if you fucked up WotC.

    Its hard to see how that Elspeth could be anything but the starter deck version but it having afterlife does make me nervous. That much repeatablity can be powerful.

    nightmarenny on
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  • I needed a gnome to post.I needed a gnome to post. i did meet some of the most insufferable people but, they also met meRegistered User regular
    Huh so
    Looks like no heroic but at least one card with the ability unnamed. Other than afterlife no other keywords. Ugh just tell me if we are getting devotion or if you fucked up WotC.

    Its hard to see how that Elspeth could be anything but the starter deck version but it having afterlife does make me nervous. That much repeatablity can be powerful.
    Devotion appears on one of the cards in the leak.

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  • nightmarennynightmarenny Registered User regular
    Oh good I continue my streak of not being able to read.

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  • Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver Registered User, ClubPA regular
    Huh so
    Looks like no heroic but at least one card with the ability unnamed. Other than afterlife no other keywords. Ugh just tell me if we are getting devotion or if you fucked up WotC.

    Its hard to see how that Elspeth could be anything but the starter deck version but it having afterlife does make me nervous. That much repeatablity can be powerful.
    There's an Escape effect on Elspeth.

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  • I needed a gnome to post.I needed a gnome to post. i did meet some of the most insufferable people but, they also met meRegistered User regular
    Mechanics in the Theros leak:
    Constellation, Devotion, Enchantment Creatures, Escape (from the Underworld!), Sagas, and that classic G/R staple, "if you control a creature with power 4 or greater"

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  • ElbasunuElbasunu Registered User regular
    Yet another theros block without enough Gyros, I see.

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  • VyolynceVyolynce Registered User regular
    astrobstrd wrote: »
    I've played a commander cube that was very fun.

    4 players, each start with a pack of 4 commanders and draft them as normal. Draft 4 packs of 15. 60 card decks with 30 life and no commander damage rule.

    Other than set legality that's a Brawl Cube... ;)

    (Which I've entertained supporting in my own cube, mind.)

  • turtleantturtleant Gunpla Dad is the best.Registered User regular
    Those non-randomized reprint boxes seem like a better value for a singleton format at least, I'll give them that.

    Though that type of product is the most transparent making money off our secondary market being a nightmare thing.

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  • PinfeldorfPinfeldorf Realtor Santa ClaritaRegistered User regular
    astrobstrd wrote: »
    Any guesses for non-reserved list green commander staples due for a reprint? Doubling Season might be a good headliner.

    Sylvan Library is another big one.

    Green
  • EnigmedicEnigmedic Registered User regular
    theros
    most of those theros cards look completely terrible. Like if they want standard to do anything other than suck, they need to print more than 3 cards in one color per set that can stand on their own legs. draft might be fun, but they should just give up on standard if they arent even going to support it anymore. like why reprint the "not oblivion ring" card when the set has an enchantment theme, and thus people will play enchantment hate, which means the exile white "removal" cards will just end up resetting loyalty or giving more etb effects because no one plays creatures that do nothing.

    although i super hate all things commander, at least someone is going to have fun this upcoming year. It certainly doesnt seem like it's going to be standard players.

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  • PiptheFairPiptheFair Registered User regular
    Pinfeldorf wrote: »
    astrobstrd wrote: »
    Any guesses for non-reserved list green commander staples due for a reprint? Doubling Season might be a good headliner.

    Sylvan Library is another big one.

    primal command and oath of druids

  • IlpalaIlpala Just this guy, y'know Texas booniesRegistered User regular
    Enigmedic wrote: »
    theros
    most of those theros cards look completely terrible. Like if they want standard to do anything other than suck, they need to print more than 3 cards in one color per set that can stand on their own legs. draft might be fun, but they should just give up on standard if they arent even going to support it anymore. like why reprint the "not oblivion ring" card when the set has an enchantment theme, and thus people will play enchantment hate, which means the exile white "removal" cards will just end up resetting loyalty or giving more etb effects because no one plays creatures that do nothing.

    although i super hate all things commander, at least someone is going to have fun this upcoming year. It certainly doesnt seem like it's going to be standard players.

    Theros
    My dude, we saw 27 cards. Five of them rare, only one mythic. To say that we don't know enough about the set yet would be an understatement.

    As a draft note though, that was Underworld Dreams at uncommon, by the way.

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  • I needed a gnome to post.I needed a gnome to post. i did meet some of the most insufferable people but, they also met meRegistered User regular
    the idea that we have any idea what the power level of theros is from a set of spoilers that is majority commons is laughable

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  • KwoaruKwoaru Registered User regular
    the idea that we have any idea what the power level of theros is from a set of spoilers that is majority commons is laughable

    The leaked theros cards are all
    pretty obviously designed for bo1

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