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[FFXIV]: Shadowguys: 5.4 December 8th

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  • EnlongEnlong Registered User regular
    Lalafell
    Alternatively, give me a Mirage-Keeper job so that I can stack tiny monsters on my head as a weapon.

    YggiDee wrote: »
    Having teenaged RPG leads is really cool until you stop being a teenager yourself. Do you remember being seventeen? You're a dumbass at seventeen! I wanna be saved by the guy who's twenty-seven. He's at least payed taxes. He knows how to do shit. He can drive.
  • PolaritiePolaritie Sleepy Registered User regular
    Au'ra
    Enlong wrote: »
    Alternatively, give me a Mirage-Keeper job so that I can stack tiny monsters on my head as a weapon.

    Ride behemoth, carry chocobo chick. CHARGE.

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  • DonnictonDonnicton Registered User regular
    Au'ra
    Enlong wrote: »
    Alternatively, give me a Mirage-Keeper job so that I can stack tiny monsters on my head as a weapon.

    Just play NIN and do your signs incorrectly. Rabbit stack.

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  • PolaritiePolaritie Sleepy Registered User regular
    Au'ra
    Enlong wrote: »
    I’m sort of envisioning that Beastmaster’s beasts could function like Living Shadow or Automaton Queen, but as the job’s entire focus. You summon the beast, and it goes through a series of automatic attacks, possibly with a cast bar visible to you. And as they do that, you’d be able to use abilities to effect them as they go though their attacks. You could buff their damage, extend their active time, repeat a move they just did, make them return early so you can bring out something else, or maybe even force a berserk mode at the cost of needing extra downtime.

    And in the meantime, you’re attacking the enemy with your whip and using your beast commands as OGCD skills.

    That’s how I imagine you could do that without needing to deal with how messy pet AI seems to be in this game.

    One thing that would be cool is if you could have more than one out at once. So as you rebuild whatever resource, eventually you can build it fast enough to have a second beast join in halfway through the first's duration.

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  • I needed a gnome to post.I needed a gnome to post. boom Registered User regular
    but yeah i was originally in the "they just threw out beastmaster as an example of a job they could do with the BLU limited job structure it wasn't an actual plan" camp but boy there are a LOT of beastmaster enemies in bozja

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  • turtleantturtleant Gunpla Dad is the best.Registered User regular
    Roegadyn
    At this point I'm mostly convinced they are not going to add a new healer again.

    I think that is a big mistake for long term game health, but I think it's gonna happen.

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  • simulacrumsimulacrum She/herRegistered User regular
    Lalafell
    I don't think they could get away with not adding a healer three expansion in a row

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  • I needed a gnome to post.I needed a gnome to post. boom Registered User regular
    i think we're definitely running up to the cap on total classes they can add in general, as much as players will expect More New Things each time

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  • BahamutZEROBahamutZERO Registered User regular
    Viera
    yeah I think there's a good chance they don't add any more regular jobs, because they're close to the limit of balance maintenance technical debt their team can manage.

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  • PiptheFairPiptheFair Registered User regular
    let me be a moogle you fucking cowards

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  • Crippl3Crippl3 oh noRegistered User regular
    Miqo'te


    Honestly I never eat food in this game, I haven't done any cooking stuff so I dunno what food is out there, let's see the replies-


    oh

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  • EnlongEnlong Registered User regular
    Lalafell
    Mustard Eggs.

    Because I will never be a cook of such advanced skill as to make it myself.

    YggiDee wrote: »
    Having teenaged RPG leads is really cool until you stop being a teenager yourself. Do you remember being seventeen? You're a dumbass at seventeen! I wanna be saved by the guy who's twenty-seven. He's at least payed taxes. He knows how to do shit. He can drive.
  • PolaritiePolaritie Sleepy Registered User regular
    edited October 2020
    Au'ra
    Vial of Fantasia. That counts, right?

    I could do with losing some weight, and actually eating more won't help.

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  • admanbadmanb unionize your workplace Seattle, WARegistered User regular
    Miqo'te
    Polaritie wrote: »
    Vial of Fantasia. That counts, right?

    I could do with losing some weight, and actually eating more won't help.

    Pretty sure a lot of people would choose Fantasia if they could.

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  • SabreMauSabreMau ネトゲしよう 판다리아Registered User regular
    They'd have us settle for just one, while Eorzea Cafe is over there bringing many dishes to life.
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  • EnlongEnlong Registered User regular
    Lalafell
    "I SHALL FRENCH FRIES THE SIN OF YOUR EXISTENCE!"

    YggiDee wrote: »
    Having teenaged RPG leads is really cool until you stop being a teenager yourself. Do you remember being seventeen? You're a dumbass at seventeen! I wanna be saved by the guy who's twenty-seven. He's at least payed taxes. He knows how to do shit. He can drive.
  • EnlongEnlong Registered User regular
    Lalafell
    To be more serious, that Alexander dessert is way more impressive to me than a lot of things that happen on food-sculpture competition shows. The whole thing is edible besides the wings and gears, and it looks delicious, if dangerous.

    YggiDee wrote: »
    Having teenaged RPG leads is really cool until you stop being a teenager yourself. Do you remember being seventeen? You're a dumbass at seventeen! I wanna be saved by the guy who's twenty-seven. He's at least payed taxes. He knows how to do shit. He can drive.
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  • SabreMauSabreMau ネトゲしよう 판다리아Registered User regular
    It also costs about $50. There's a reason it says "FULL PARTY", you've gotta have that many people to finish it.

  • EnlongEnlong Registered User regular
    Lalafell
    Assuming a full party of 8 people, that's about 6 bucks a head, which seems fair for a ridiculous dessert like that. You'd probably have to fight someone for the choux buns, since there's only 2.

    YggiDee wrote: »
    Having teenaged RPG leads is really cool until you stop being a teenager yourself. Do you remember being seventeen? You're a dumbass at seventeen! I wanna be saved by the guy who's twenty-seven. He's at least payed taxes. He knows how to do shit. He can drive.
  • PolaritiePolaritie Sleepy Registered User regular
    Au'ra
    Enlong wrote: »
    To be more serious, that Alexander dessert is way more impressive to me than a lot of things that happen on food-sculpture competition shows. The whole thing is edible besides the wings and gears, and it looks delicious, if dangerous.

    Let's be honest, you could make those edible too, just... it would probably be more trouble than it's worth.

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  • Fig-DFig-D Registered User regular
    I feel like a Light Party could tackle that.

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  • admanbadmanb unionize your workplace Seattle, WARegistered User regular
    Miqo'te
    Fig-D wrote: »
    I feel like a Light Party could tackle that.

    they might be a Light Party when they start but I don't think they'll be a light party when they finish

  • EnlongEnlong Registered User regular
    Lalafell
    Polaritie wrote: »
    Enlong wrote: »
    To be more serious, that Alexander dessert is way more impressive to me than a lot of things that happen on food-sculpture competition shows. The whole thing is edible besides the wings and gears, and it looks delicious, if dangerous.

    Let's be honest, you could make those edible too, just... it would probably be more trouble than it's worth.

    The gears are probably the easiest. They could be a cookie cut into the shape, or a hard candy or gelatin thing poured into a gear-shaped mould.

    The wings, though? Yeah, I'm not seeing that. If the whole thing was a gingerbread house, it might be able to support a pair of giant cookie wings, but I don't think the waffles could support that.

    Oh, unless it was a light spun-sugar thing. But that'd be so fragile. I think I'm ok with the wings being a prop, since everything else isn't.

    YggiDee wrote: »
    Having teenaged RPG leads is really cool until you stop being a teenager yourself. Do you remember being seventeen? You're a dumbass at seventeen! I wanna be saved by the guy who's twenty-seven. He's at least payed taxes. He knows how to do shit. He can drive.
  • BahamutZEROBahamutZERO Registered User regular
    Viera
    SabreMau wrote: »
    They'd have us settle for just one, while Eorzea Cafe is over there bringing many dishes to life.
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    this madoka magica-ass cake

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  • EnlongEnlong Registered User regular
    Lalafell
    "I am... Alexander. The Delicious."

    YggiDee wrote: »
    Having teenaged RPG leads is really cool until you stop being a teenager yourself. Do you remember being seventeen? You're a dumbass at seventeen! I wanna be saved by the guy who's twenty-seven. He's at least payed taxes. He knows how to do shit. He can drive.
  • DonnictonDonnicton Registered User regular
    Au'ra
    Fig-D wrote: »
    I feel like a Light Party could tackle that.

    Looks more like a solo challenge to me. *rolls up sleeves*
    Enlong wrote: »
    The wings, though? Yeah, I'm not seeing that. If the whole thing was a gingerbread house, it might be able to support a pair of giant cookie wings, but I don't think the waffles could support that.

    You have a couple of lightweight options, but they would of course require their own mold. Wafer, pirouette, and Tuiles style cookies are immediate candidates.
    Enlong wrote: »
    "I SHALL FRENCH FRIES THE SIN OF YOUR EXISTENCE!"

    If you french fry the sin of their existence when you're supposed to pizza the sin of their existence, you're gonna have a bad time.

  • BahamutZEROBahamutZERO Registered User regular
    Viera


    I love machinist's shadowbringers animations with their big multitool thing so much

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  • SabreMauSabreMau ネトゲしよう 판다리아Registered User regular
    I can't remember offhand if those things like the wings or the character art on the other pieces are some kind of paper/cardboard or some kind of edible wafer with designs printed on them.

  • BahamutZEROBahamutZERO Registered User regular
    Viera
    my first thought was definitely posterboard cutouts but if they were edible that would be pretty cool

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  • EnlongEnlong Registered User regular
    Lalafell
    The multi tool is so weird looking, but I also love the way it animated and the projectiles it shoots.

    YggiDee wrote: »
    Having teenaged RPG leads is really cool until you stop being a teenager yourself. Do you remember being seventeen? You're a dumbass at seventeen! I wanna be saved by the guy who's twenty-seven. He's at least payed taxes. He knows how to do shit. He can drive.
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  • turtleantturtleant Gunpla Dad is the best.Registered User regular
    Roegadyn
    Pulling for chainsaw in 6.0

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  • EnlongEnlong Registered User regular
    Lalafell
    turtleant wrote: »
    Pulling for chainsaw in 6.0

    We’re missing that, Noiseblaster, and Debilitator.

    Dunno how you’d properly do Debilitator. It makes most sense as a generic vulnerability up debuff. But that’s real powerful.

    YggiDee wrote: »
    Having teenaged RPG leads is really cool until you stop being a teenager yourself. Do you remember being seventeen? You're a dumbass at seventeen! I wanna be saved by the guy who's twenty-seven. He's at least payed taxes. He knows how to do shit. He can drive.
  • PolaritiePolaritie Sleepy Registered User regular
    Au'ra
    Enlong wrote: »
    turtleant wrote: »
    Pulling for chainsaw in 6.0

    We’re missing that, Noiseblaster, and Debilitator.

    Dunno how you’d properly do Debilitator. It makes most sense as a generic vulnerability up debuff. But that’s real powerful.

    Make it a damage down debuff. MCH used to have one of those anyways iirc.

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  • turtleantturtleant Gunpla Dad is the best.Registered User regular
    Roegadyn
    MCH used to have vuln up. It was on the "make your turret shoot harder" cooldown.

    But NIN was still king because Trick Attack's cooldown was shorter and lined up with everyone else's burst phases much better.

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  • Crippl3Crippl3 oh noRegistered User regular
    Miqo'te
    I wish this game (and more MMOs in general) weren't so scared of buff/debuff/crowd control abilities and classes.

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  • JavenJaven Registered User regular
    Roegadyn
    Crippl3 wrote: »
    I wish this game (and more MMOs in general) weren't so scared of buff/debuff/crowd control abilities and classes.

    Because you can’t really make them useful but not required.

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  • destroyah87destroyah87 Registered User regular
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    Crippl3 wrote: »
    I wish this game (and more MMOs in general) weren't so scared of buff/debuff/crowd control abilities and classes.

    It's not so much scared, as that it's basically impossible to balance the abilities or classes to thread the needle in the effectiveness to be worth bringing perfectly. Seems like it's either not as good as other options or way too good compared to other options.

    That could just be "conventional wisdom" speaking, but that's what does make sense to me still.

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  • BahamutZEROBahamutZERO Registered User regular
    edited October 2020
    Viera
    they currently balance jobs that buff other people's damage (mainly dancer and astrologian, to a lesser degree ninja, dragoon and bard) by having it not be an overwhelming component of their overall damage contribution so they're not terrible in 4 person groups and solo, and subtract the amount of extra damage they cause in a 2 tank 2 healer 4 DPS situation from their personal damage output so that it comes out to a total of about the same contribution as any other DPS job in a generic 8 man party.

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  • turtleantturtleant Gunpla Dad is the best.Registered User regular
    Roegadyn
    With very mixed results. AST is so good that not bringing one is honestly a handicap in full party stuff, while BRD is just kinda bad. DNC is ok, but depends on what other DPS are in the group to be partners with (and also that your partner doesn't spend half the fight on the floor).

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  • EnlongEnlong Registered User regular
    Lalafell
    turtleant wrote: »
    With very mixed results. AST is so good that not bringing one is honestly a handicap in full party stuff, while BRD is just kinda bad. DNC is ok, but depends on what other DPS are in the group to be partners with (and also that your partner doesn't spend half the fight on the floor).

    To be fair, in any cutting-edge fights, ANYONE being dead repeatedly or for a significant amount of time probably means a loss in any party makeup.

    YggiDee wrote: »
    Having teenaged RPG leads is really cool until you stop being a teenager yourself. Do you remember being seventeen? You're a dumbass at seventeen! I wanna be saved by the guy who's twenty-seven. He's at least payed taxes. He knows how to do shit. He can drive.
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