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[Star Wars] Elan Sleazebaggano went home and became a family man

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    nightmarennynightmarenny Registered User regular
    edited December 2019
    Elvenshae wrote: »
    Nnnnnnnope. Purple.

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    Pink.

    Looks like her look changes at some point.

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    That’s how she looks in the episodes I’m watching.

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    DouglasDangerDouglasDanger PennsylvaniaRegistered User regular
    Thanks for posting that

    I hate Star Wars again

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    nightmarennynightmarenny Registered User regular
    edited December 2019
    Thanks for posting that

    I hate Star Wars again

    Its a remarkably silly design decision but I wanna point out I was grumbling about it in a post that was mostly about how I was enjoying the show. So far despite what some character designs or early plot elements might have implied its not a particularly childish show nor is it in toyetic. At least not in a distracting way. Some dumb thing they can make a toy out of doesn't show up every once and awhile anyway. Its a very character focused show about a group of misfits and its alright.

    EDIT- But also what's up with you guys jumping down my throat to insist that a character that is very clearly decked out in pink isn't wearing pink? Did ya'll not actually watch the show and just pull her up on google image?

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    SilverWindSilverWind Registered User regular
    The pink armor is cringey
    The fact that she's the romantic interest for Ezra and the first few episodes we've watched basically have her the recipient of "Heeeeeeeeey gurl" moments from Ezra is mortifying

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    initiatefailureinitiatefailure Registered User regular
    I just remember her always changing it and painting it and her room and parts of the ship and basically anything and they never played it off as girls do pink so much as Sabine can't stop painting

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    Bloods EndBloods End Blade of Tyshalle Punch dimensionRegistered User regular
    I really hope real elenor shows up as sabine on the mando at some point.

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    PsykomaPsykoma Registered User regular
    It's not great that they would canonically make the female mandalorian's armour pink.
    I also know that if there were a game where I could customize my own mandalorion, my armour would be the most offensively neon pink you can imagine.

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    Grey GhostGrey Ghost Registered User regular
    I rocked a pink saber blade in Fallen Order

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    ElbasunuElbasunu Registered User regular
    edited December 2019
    It's weird seeing complaints about sabine's pink armor because she's universally beloved by most of the star wars fan community. Also her armor is awesome. It's got art all over it, just like everything else she owns.
    I agree that ezra being all "hey a giiiirrrrrl" was dumb but they drop it pretty quickly. I'll give some leeway for dumb teen shennanigans but i am also glad they didn't push their luck with it.

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    SilverWindSilverWind Registered User regular
    Oh, the reason I'm not complaining more is that I'm pretty sure they'll make her into an actual developed character at some point. I know kids shows enough to know it often takes a season or more for it to sort things out

    Wyborn and I (and a bunch of other people in here it seems!) are just starting off the series due to Disney+

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    King RiptorKing Riptor Registered User regular
    Elbasunu wrote: »
    It's weird seeing complaints about sabine's pink armor because she's universally beloved by most of the star wars fan community. Also her armor is awesome. It's got art all over it, just like everything else she owns.
    I agree that ezra being all "hey a giiiirrrrrl" was dumb but they drop it pretty quickly. I'll give some leeway for dumb teen shennanigans but i am also glad they didn't push their luck with it.

    I dont think she ever gave him the time of day either

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    DouglasDangerDouglasDanger PennsylvaniaRegistered User regular
    I'm surprised to see popular sentiment turn positive for Rebels. It looks like ass and seems nakedly toyetic to a level I haven't seen since GI Joe stuff in the 90s

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    King RiptorKing Riptor Registered User regular
    edited December 2019
    I'm surprised to see popular sentiment turn positive for Rebels. It looks like ass and seems nakedly toyetic to a level I haven't seen since GI Joe stuff in the 90s

    Ive never really watched it. The art style is just very off putting

    Nvm got mixed up with the newer show

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    honoverehonovere Registered User regular
    I'm surprised to see popular sentiment turn positive for Rebels. It looks like ass and seems nakedly toyetic to a level I haven't seen since GI Joe stuff in the 90s

    Rebels been pretty popular since the second half of the first season aired. First half is very cringey mostly because of Ezra and his kiddy blaster. As for the looks, the characters do look a bit weird and stiff and everyone seems to wear fitted clothes so they don't have to animate robes and such (basically only Vader and Kenobi have flowing clothes), but with time they build up their design asset library and it becomes better and all space and ship scenes are pretty great and awesome.

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    EtchwartsEtchwarts Eyes Up Registered User regular
    I've been reading the Poe Dameron comics

    They're real good!

    They've also made thirst even more for a game where you play as Poe (or a Poe type), exploring the galaxy and doing missions against fascists while flying a cool X-Wing

    Ya'll got your Jedi game

    Let me have this

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    valhalla130valhalla130 13 Dark Shield Perceives the GodsRegistered User regular
    I always like Rebels. It seemed okay. There was a jarrimg turn of Ezra towards the Dark Side at one season beginning I never understood because I don't think they built up to it sufficiently, but they then addressed it, I believe.

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    BlankZoeBlankZoe Registered User regular
    edited December 2019
    I'm surprised to see popular sentiment turn positive for Rebels. It looks like ass and seems nakedly toyetic to a level I haven't seen since GI Joe stuff in the 90s
    Rebels seemed to be pretty well received after the initial somewhat rocky start?

    Like people were absolutely singing its praises on this forum as it was airing

    And also it really wasn't that toyetic, no moreso than basically any other piece of Star Wars or modern kids media

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    initiatefailureinitiatefailure Registered User regular
    i only recently binged rebels this past spring and only because i was told how good it was. It was not a thing on my radar at all before then. but after I finished I ended up being able to go to the star wars celebration in chicago for a day thanks to work and there were just a ton of people cosplaying sabine and it seemed just universally hailed by that crowd, but I've never been aware of how it was received by the non-superfans

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    Librarian's ghostLibrarian's ghost Librarian, Ghostbuster, and TimSpork Registered User regular
    BlankZoe wrote: »
    I'm surprised to see popular sentiment turn positive for Rebels. It looks like ass and seems nakedly toyetic to a level I haven't seen since GI Joe stuff in the 90s
    Rebels seemed to be pretty well received after the initial somewhat rocky start?

    Like people were absolutely singing its praises on this forum as it was airing

    And also it really wasn't that toyetic, no moreso than basically any other piece of Star Wars or modern kids media

    It's actually reverse toyetic since it took a vehicle that only ever existed as a weird Kenner toy and made it official cannon (the boxy imperial ground transports)

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    HobnailHobnail Registered User regular
    I think reverse toyetic would be like grinding up star wars toys to make prostheses or something

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    King RiptorKing Riptor Registered User regular
    I always like Rebels. It seemed okay. There was a jarrimg turn of Ezra towards the Dark Side at one season beginning I never understood because I don't think they built up to it sufficiently, but they then addressed it, I believe.

    Given his history the Dark side probabaly seemed super appealing

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    WybornWyborn GET EQUIPPED Registered User regular
    It's understandable given the age of the show, but the open spoilers for Rebels means I'm gonna need to bow out of the thread until we're done with it

    It's good to hear that Ezra and Sabine become more developed

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    honoverehonovere Registered User regular
    Wyborn wrote: »
    It's understandable given the age of the show, but the open spoilers for Rebels means I'm gonna need to bow out of the thread until we're done with it

    It's good to hear that Ezra and Sabine become more developed

    Sorry about that. It's always interesting to see people's reactions when they come later to a show.

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    TamerBillTamerBill Registered User regular
    BlankZoe wrote: »
    I'm surprised to see popular sentiment turn positive for Rebels. It looks like ass and seems nakedly toyetic to a level I haven't seen since GI Joe stuff in the 90s
    Rebels seemed to be pretty well received after the initial somewhat rocky start?

    Like people were absolutely singing its praises on this forum as it was airing

    And also it really wasn't that toyetic, no moreso than basically any other piece of Star Wars or modern kids media

    It's actually reverse toyetic since it took a vehicle that only ever existed as a weird Kenner toy and made it official cannon (the boxy imperial ground transports)

    Okay, we can't stop there. This trend need to continue until Darth Vader's custom motorcycle makes into canon like it deserves.

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    KanaKana Registered User regular
    I had actually totally forgotten about Ezra's awful season 1 little toy slingshot thing. That was horrifically toyetic

    After that it's fine though

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    LasbrookLasbrook It takes a lot to make a stew When it comes to me and youRegistered User regular
    I never really got the sense that Rebels was made to sell toys but Season 1 definitely has a problem of Zev, Chopper and Ezra just being real irritating.

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    manwiththemachinegunmanwiththemachinegun METAL GEAR?! Registered User regular
    edited December 2019
    Darth Vader has been by far the most improved character in the new canon. For a while in Legends "emo Vader" was the rage after episode 3.
    Now he goes around creating his own mini-Empire to subvert the Emperor and fights Kaiju monsters and stuff.
    We're hopefully starting to see the same for Luke now that RoS is being released soon.

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    King RiptorKing Riptor Registered User regular
    Well chopper is supposed to be irritating

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    DouglasDangerDouglasDanger PennsylvaniaRegistered User regular
    I never got a sense of Vader's motivations

    The prequels did not provide it

    Like in my head, he wants peace and security at any cost, so he's an unsympathetic fascist who's a a genocidal mass murderer

    But the movies have never shown anything other than whiny teen, than he's a badass mass murdering henchman who looks cool, is scary

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    KanaKana Registered User regular
    Esp in episode 6 vader is in kind of a weird spot, he seems more like he's trapped in service to the Emperor, in his conversations with Luke he mostly just sounds tired.

    And really in the OT in general Vader is rarely treated as someone who actually has a lot of agency? Like Leia mentions Tarkin holding Vader's leash in 4. Vader doesn't really come across as like the #2 guy in the Empire, he's just their enforcer.

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    nightmarennynightmarenny Registered User regular
    Vader goes to the Darkside out of fear of losing everything and then he loses everything anyway. The movies don’t say but we can infer that what he wants is to be strong enough that he can’t lose anything anymore. The irony being that he’s given up really having anything. A lot of his early actions as Vader are also probably driven directly by a sense of revenge. He hates the Jedi and blames them for what happened to him and what happened to Padme so we continues to follow the only person he still considers a friend and takes the chance to murder Jedi.

    For the record I don’t think the whole Tarkin holding Vader’s leash thing was accurate. I think it was just a thing Leia said to bother him. They seem to have a legitimate friendship going and the episodes of the clone wars that feature Tarkin seem to back that up.

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    JuggernutJuggernut Registered User regular
    I got the impression from ANH that there was definitely a chain of command and Vader was under Tarkin. The question being maybe he was on loan from the Emperor I guess?

    As for his motivations, starting with AOTC Anakin very much desires the power to save the people he loves from dying after his mother is killed. He blames Obi-Wan (weirdly?) for holding him back from the trials, becoming a full fledged jedi, and getting off the leash to explore his full potential. If he hadn't still been an apprentice he could've saved his mother. The films don't do a great job of it but the idea is that Anakin is extremely powerful and he knows it.

    Enter his visions of Padme dying. Palpatine offers him the knowledge to save her except oops he's a sith and Windu is going to kill him. If he dies he takes the power to save Padme with him so Anakin kills Windu and then... goes completely dark side.

    That's kind of the weakest point of the whole thing. The lead up, while clunky, makes a lot of sense. It's his weird guilt and total, broken turn to the dark side that doesn't really play well. Had they written him to like, actually, enthusiastically embrace the dark side because he sees it as a way to save the woman he loves, become as powerful as he knows he should be, and remove an order and a system of government he sees as corrupt it would've tracked better with Vader as a henchman in the OT.

    Padme dying and Palpatine putting the blame for it on him would've been a good way to set up Vader's attempts to undermine him in ESB and ultimately have his redemption in RotJ. Instead they tried to keep Anakin/Vader as the sympathetic, almost unwilling villain despite him committing mass murder, facilitating mass murder, torture, brutally killing his own underlings and being Space Hitler's right hand man.

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    Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    Juggernut wrote: »
    I got the impression from ANH that there was definitely a chain of command and Vader was under Tarkin. The question being maybe he was on loan from the Emperor I guess?

    Tarkin became the Grand Moff in ANH and was in charge of the Death Star. That effectively made him in charge of Vader while Vader was on the Death Star, even if Vader was the Emperor's right hand man.

    Tarkin is the second most powerful man in the galaxy based on the influence he controls during the events of A New Hope.

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    UrielUriel Registered User regular
    I saw a star war movie one time

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    initiatefailureinitiatefailure Registered User regular
    Uriel wrote: »
    I saw a star war movie one time

    I'm so sorry

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    MancingtomMancingtom Registered User regular
    edited December 2019
    The old EU has a lot of wacky or just plain bad stuff, but it's the reason I'm a Star Wars fan.
    I remember annoying my mom because she got me one of the Jedi Apprentice books at the mall, which I finished in two hours and promptly asked my mom to take me back for the next one. Hell, the Solo kids are probably still my favorite characters.*
    That said, I dig pretty much all of the Disney EU stuff. I haven't tried Resistance yet, but Clone Wars and Rebels contain some of the best Star Wars stories ever made and the Mandalorian is just as good.
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    At least, until they killed Anakin, made "being a dick" Jacen's only character trait, and wrote Jaina as less emotionally mature at 32 than she was 16.

    Oh—they also made Anakin's love interest Tahiri, whom we'd followed since she was 9 years old, into a literal child molester. That was fun.

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    HobnailHobnail Registered User regular
    Uriel wrote: »
    I saw a star war movie one time

    Prove it

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    UrielUriel Registered User regular
    Uriel wrote: »
    I saw a star war movie one time

    Prove it

    There was a Droid that goes "gonk"

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