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  • ShortyShorty JUDGE BROSEF Registered User regular
    my current pet peeve with the prequels is that they made Obi-Wan's Tatooine look the thing that every single jedi wore

    setting aside the fact that this is a nonsense idea, it's also visually uninteresting, especially compared to Luke's asskicking outfit in RotJ

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    I was legit hoping that Shorty was somehow mistaken and the world wasn't that fucked
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  • DouglasDangerDouglasDanger PennsylvaniaRegistered User regular
    I think Vader is a stronger and more menacing character if you know he's Luke and Leia's dad, that he was a powerful Jedi who "fell" to "evil" and that he's now working for the "bad folx"

    Every detail provided about him undermines his presence

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  • JuggernutJuggernut Registered User regular
    Rewatching the prequels now I can see so much potential there that's basically just squandered by bad directing and writing.

    Actors can only do so much with what they're given and when you have a movie make Samuel L. Jackson boring that's 100% the director and the writing.

    A ton of the media that came out following the prequels was excellent and showed how good all those ideas could've been in the hands of a more skilled creator.

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  • Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver Registered User, ClubPA regular
    We actually knew a bit of Vader's backstory (like his battle with Obiwan that resulted him falling into lava) before the prequels.

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  • Bloods EndBloods End Blade of Tyshalle Punch dimensionRegistered User regular
    Juggernut wrote: »
    Rewatching the prequels now I can see so much potential there that's basically just squandered by bad directing and writing.

    Actors can only do so much with what they're given and when you have a movie make Samuel L. Jackson boring that's 100% the director and the writing.

    A ton of the media that came out following the prequels was excellent and showed how good all those ideas could've been in the hands of a more skilled creator.

    I mean you have to look no further than the rots movie and the rots novelization. It is the exact same story, but Matthew Stover manages to wring out pathos and incredible mood with the same moments that fall flat under Lucas direction.

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  • Mortal SkyMortal Sky queer punk hedge witchRegistered User regular
    One thing I'm amazed we've never seen on screen: Ewan MacGregor's Obi-Wan on some kind of badass speeder bike

    That dude is up there with goddamn Keanu Reeves, Norman Reedus, and Tom Cruise as far as the niche category of "celebrities who goddamn love motorcycles"

    but naw Anakin got the cool speederbike montage in AotC instead

  • Bloods EndBloods End Blade of Tyshalle Punch dimensionRegistered User regular
    This is gonna be dumb and I will watch every second



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  • ShortyShorty JUDGE BROSEF Registered User regular
    edited December 3
    ian mcdiarmiud and ewan McGregor showed up to work in the prequels and polished that turd harder than anyone else, and it shows, but even they struggled with a lot of it

    the greatest actor alive couldn't have saved some of those lines, like how Obi-Wan had to say "qui-gon" in that (completely unnecessary!) scene where they explained the origin of the force ghost power

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  • see317see317 Registered User regular
    Shorty wrote: »
    ian mcdiarmiud and ewan McGregor showed up to work in the prequels and polished that turd harder than anyone else, and it shows, but even they struggled with a lot of it
    the greatest actor alive couldn't have saved some of those lines, like how Obi-Wan had to say "qui-gon" in that (completely unnecessary!) scene where they explained the origin of the force ghost power

    There are stories about the OT saying the same thing about the writing. The big difference being that Lucas was willing to listen to his crew when they told him the lines were crap and they had better ones.
    I'm pretty sure the "'I love you' 'I know'" exchange is the most well known, but it's not the only time where the actors rewrote a scene to make it work.

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  • Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver Registered User, ClubPA regular
    So.

    It's treason then.

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  • RenzoRenzo Registered User regular
    edited December 3
    Shorty wrote: »
    my current pet peeve with the prequels is that they made Obi-Wan's Tatooine look the thing that every single jedi wore

    setting aside the fact that this is a nonsense idea, it's also visually uninteresting, especially compared to Luke's asskicking outfit in RotJ

    This 100%. Obi-Wan's Tatooine robes in ANH are practical. Yoda wears rags because he's a hermit. They should not have become the template for all Jedi clothes, past and future.

    It's annoying that even Rey wears clothes that look similar to robes. Her Ach-To gear at the end of TFA/start of TLJ was a good look, I'm sad it didn't stick.

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  • BlankZoeBlankZoe Registered User regular
    I do really like the robes over the white Republic armor look

    They should have used that more

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  • Robes over armour tends to look dope in general, get some humble drab over that plate mail

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  • ShortyShorty JUDGE BROSEF Registered User regular
    luke's warrior priest look in RotJ is probably my favorite costume in Star Wars

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    I was legit hoping that Shorty was somehow mistaken and the world wasn't that fucked
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  • Der Waffle MousDer Waffle Mous Blame this on the misfortune of your birth. New Yark, New Yark.Registered User regular
    BlankZoe wrote: »
    I do really like the robes over the white Republic armor look

    They should have used that more

    I got a lot of mileage out of that one set in TOR once they put in transmogging.

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  • King RiptorKing Riptor Registered User regular
    Bloods End wrote: »
    This is gonna be dumb and I will watch every second



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  • Bloods EndBloods End Blade of Tyshalle Punch dimensionRegistered User regular
    Bloods End wrote: »
    This is gonna be dumb and I will watch every second



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    Nobody ever passes Master Anakins final test though

    Let them.have team names like team mace windu or obi won, like legends of the hidden temple
    let team anakin never get to the rank master

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  • timspork's ghosttimspork's ghost Master Librarian and Ghostbuster Registered User regular
    Oh man is it just going to be Legends of the Hidden Temple with lightsabers glued onto it, because I am THERE for it.

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  • Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver Registered User, ClubPA regular
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    AND THROUGH THAT PORTAL YOU WILL FIND THE SHRINE OF THE SILVER YODA

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    Fencingsax wrote: »
    AND THROUGH THAT PORTAL YOU WILL FIND THE SHRINE OF THE SILVER YODA

    THE HEAD IS ON BACKWARDS
    DO OR DO NOT

    THERE IS NO TRY

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  • Moth 13Moth 13 Volcaregular Registered User regular
    It is a bit silly but I'm fine with most Jedi wearing brown unassuming robes to show that they're monks who aren't into worldly possessions.

  • MaddocMaddoc I'm Bobbin Threadbare, are you my mother? Registered User regular
    Shorty wrote: »
    my current pet peeve with the prequels is that they made Obi-Wan's Tatooine look the thing that every single jedi wore

    setting aside the fact that this is a nonsense idea, it's also visually uninteresting, especially compared to Luke's asskicking outfit in RotJ

    It's like what every EU writer does, create the entire universe out of pieces of the original trilogy rather than imagine anything new, except it's Lucas doing it so it's really super weird.

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  • BlankZoeBlankZoe Registered User regular
    Moth 13 wrote: »
    It is a bit silly but I'm fine with most Jedi wearing brown unassuming robes to show that they're monks who aren't into worldly possessions.
    Eh, I don't think they lean into that angle with the Jedi enough to make it work

    They aren't often shown to be basically penniless holy men and women who have nothing to their name but their lightsabers and robes

    They're heroes who have spaceships and crews and positions of power and respect

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  • DouglasDangerDouglasDanger PennsylvaniaRegistered User regular
    Maddoc wrote: »
    Shorty wrote: »
    my current pet peeve with the prequels is that they made Obi-Wan's Tatooine look the thing that every single jedi wore

    setting aside the fact that this is a nonsense idea, it's also visually uninteresting, especially compared to Luke's asskicking outfit in RotJ

    It's like what every EU writer does, create the entire universe out of pieces of the original trilogy rather than imagine anything new, except it's Lucas doing it so it's really super weird.

    No, it's mostly dumb and weird and unnecessary

    Like 95% of the EU

    It exists only to make money

    It diminishes the original property

    It's hacky fan fic with a budget

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  • MaddocMaddoc I'm Bobbin Threadbare, are you my mother? Registered User regular
    Maddoc wrote: »
    Shorty wrote: »
    my current pet peeve with the prequels is that they made Obi-Wan's Tatooine look the thing that every single jedi wore

    setting aside the fact that this is a nonsense idea, it's also visually uninteresting, especially compared to Luke's asskicking outfit in RotJ

    It's like what every EU writer does, create the entire universe out of pieces of the original trilogy rather than imagine anything new, except it's Lucas doing it so it's really super weird.

    No, it's mostly dumb and weird and unnecessary

    Like 95% of the EU

    It exists only to make money

    It diminishes the original property

    It's hacky fan fic with a budget

    I get that you don't like it but what are you trying to express with this post

    Like the tone suggests you are disagreeing but the content doesn't conflict with anything I said

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  • DouglasDangerDouglasDanger PennsylvaniaRegistered User regular
    The prequels clone wars etc handling of the Jedi is also not something I enjoy

    I guess I like less than half of all Star Wars media

    It's getting to the point where I enjoy less of it than I enjoy, when I look at how many seasons that clone wars cartoon got and the awful rebels cartoon had how many seasons? Fuck

    I guess I like six movies and one show out of 10 movies and how many shows?

    Hm

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  • honoverehonovere Registered User regular
    Did you watch clone wars and rebels? I got the impression that you're mostly upset by them because of some first impression or the design style?

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  • T4CTT4CT BAFTA-NOMINATED NAFTA-APPROVEDRegistered User regular
    anakin in the prequel movies is largely a non-entity and anakin in the clone wars brings the character back to actually existing

    the character work done on anakin is fucking substantial in that show, and I think like actually meaningful to describing his fall from grace, which I think IS a story worth telling

    clone wars spoilers cause some people are enjoying star wars for the first time in here
    it's such a small scene but the scene where Obi-Wan and Satine are both confronted with having to kill the bad guy on Mandalore and sacrifice their ideology for "the greater good" and they're both struggling and then a lightsaber just IGNITES THROUGH THE GUY and he drops and Anakin's like "what? he was gonna blow up the place" makes you chuckle for a second and then go like "oh wow this is one of the clearest visual manifestations of the beliefs that ultimately lead to Anakin falling"

    there's SO MUCH GOOD SHIT with Anakin and Ahsoka too

    the clone wars may not be your cup of tea but they are far from just like, cash grabs, a lot of interesting things are portrayed in them

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    I say this as someone who literally JUST watched clone wars for the first time after like, literal years of dismissing it

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  • GvzbgulGvzbgul Ask me about my scrotalist agenda Registered User regular
    Imagine the Jedi Temple not being on the "surface" of Coruscant but on the actual surface. So ancient that it is built on actual rock. And the Jedi live down among the slums of Coruscant.

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  • DouglasDangerDouglasDanger PennsylvaniaRegistered User regular
    I watched some episodes of each and found the art and premise of both shows thoroughly off putting

    The clone wars cartoon continues the prequel movie trend of explaining Vader and turning the Jedi into this huge branch of the good guy military, they're like the Avengers or the Guardians of the Galaxy instead of a couple of weird hermits? No thanks

    That plucky teen protagonist in rebels is buddies with badass space lizard pig Bossk? Fuck off, Disney

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  • T4CTT4CT BAFTA-NOMINATED NAFTA-APPROVEDRegistered User regular
    i don't know where to begin

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  • DouglasDangerDouglasDanger PennsylvaniaRegistered User regular
    You don't need to persuade me to like something, I appreciate your time

    I have opinions about Star Wars that run counter to 2/3 of Star Wars media and most of the fans

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  • ChincymcchillaChincymcchilla Registered User regular
    I don't think the clone wars cartoon is just a cash grab but it absolutely shows the jedi as basically a military wing

    If that turns you off you're not gonna like it

    (I also think it looks like hot trash but thats a personal opinion)

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  • FencingsaxFencingsax It is difficult to get a man to understand, when his salary depends upon his not understanding GNU Terry PratchettRegistered User regular
    I think there being 2 sets of cartoons called Clone Wars is confusing.

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  • Grey GhostGrey Ghost Registered User regular
    Now you've done it, Munkus is going to remind us that cartoon Grievous used lightsabers with his feet and it was so cool WE KNOW MUNKUS, WE REMEMBER

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  • T4CTT4CT BAFTA-NOMINATED NAFTA-APPROVEDRegistered User regular
    You don't need to persuade me to like something, I appreciate your time

    I have opinions about Star Wars that run counter to 2/3 of Star Wars media and most of the fans

    i'm not going to try and persuade you of anything lol I just like...don't know how to engage with the posts you are making and am trying to think of a way to do so

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  • BlankZoeBlankZoe Registered User regular
    edited December 3
    I don't think the clone wars cartoon is just a cash grab but it absolutely shows the jedi as basically a military wing

    If that turns you off you're not gonna like it

    (I also think it looks like hot trash but thats a personal opinion)
    To be fair that is ultimately very definitively presented as a bad thing?

    The have explictly said that the Jedi becoming political and military figures and peacekeepers is exactly what let Sidious pull off his plot

    Order 66 and the swift rise of the Empire would have been much less palatable to the general galaxy if they couldn't push the "The Jedi grew mad with power and tried to take full control" narrative

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  • SirEtchwartsSirEtchwarts KABOOM Splooooosh...Registered User regular
    Everyone knows that the coolest episode of the old Clone Wars was the one where Mace Windu beat up a droid army with his fists

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