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[Star Wars] Elan Sleazebaggano went home and became a family man

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    RingoRingo He/Him a distinct lack of substanceRegistered User regular
    Bloods End wrote: »
    The current comic of kylo ren is leaning real hard into the
    Innocent hitler
    trope and it is really stretching credibility at this point.

    Care to detail?

    Sterica wrote: »
    I know my last visit to my grandpa on his deathbed was to find out how the whole Nazi werewolf thing turned out.
    Edcrab's Exigency RPG
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    Sir PlatypusSir Platypus Registered User regular
    edited February 2020
    Planning a Disney World trip, and it looks like Disney's online store is still selling the Donald Glover Lando Magic Band.

    I'm not even 100 percent sure that I'll be able to take this trip, but I went ahead and bought the thing.

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    Honestly it might as well just be a Donald Glover Magic Band.

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    Bloods EndBloods End Blade of Tyshalle Punch dimensionRegistered User regular
    So
    Ben is to have shown to have killed no one when he attacked Luke and destroyed the temple. Three Jedi find the destroyed temple and luke (and just don't look for his body or he has already gone) but think he's dead and know that ben is responsible. Ben at this time has gone and met up with snoke, who is wearing a funny hat, who tells him to seek out the Knights of Ren. Ben does and recounts in flash back about how he made his first Jedi kill. Where we see the Jedi attack him, him accidentally through someone off a cliff, then try and force grab them to save them, then another jedi through their lightsaber at him, Ben deflect it back into the guy, and kill him. Basically he was defending himself and he tried to actually save the people who attacked him, making him completely blameless in all of this

    The actual writing isn't bad, but the story itself is so clearly a "Lets try and set up the garbage choices that tros made" that it is just, ugh.

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    HobnailHobnail Registered User regular
    Because it doesnt have the same impact in other cultures you'd be amazed how many babies get named "Innocent Hitler" every year

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    Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    The writing in TROS is so bad that it is the first Star Wars movie I've seen where I'm like "Maybe we just don't count this as canon. At all."

    Humor can be dissected as a frog can, but dies in the process.
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    TankHammerTankHammer Atlanta Ghostbuster Atlanta, GARegistered User regular
    TankHammer wrote: »
    TankHammer wrote: »
    What's the gist of Alphabet Squadron? It seems like having that kind of mix of ships with very different amounts of speed and maneuverability in a squadron together would be a serious hindrance rather than having any tactical advantage.

    That's actually where they get their name, believe it or not! Other squadrons give them shit for being so mismatched

    They do also go into it in some of the combat sequences, I ended up sold on the idea before the book was over

    But, like, how do they subvert said logic? Why are they a squadron? Did a bunch of pilots just decide to make the most mis-matched fighter/bomber group imaginable to see what would happen, even though it would be incredibly difficult? Did they find some kind of weird advantage or way to compensate for the handicaps they suffer or do they succeed because the author wanted it to happen that way and the Star Wars 'Rule of Cool' overrode all that?

    As for why they formed, without getting too much into it, they're kind of thrown together by a third party and forced to make do with what they had, no one really planned for them to have one of each (outside of the Star Wars marketing folks, I guess)

    As far as the actual mission to mission stuff goes, they generally just split up into groups of fighter-bomber, fighter-bomber, but they also don't go into it being a difficult thing to deal with outside of mentions of like, the A-Wing pilot trying to keep their speed down so they can cover the Y-Wing more effectively

    There is also a whole subplot in the middle that deals with more traditional squadrons of A-Wings and B-Wings, if you want some more traditional squadron stuff

    That's what I wanted to hear about. I haven't ever read a 'squadron' book but I do need creatives making some attempt at maintaining suspension of disbelief.

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    Moth 13Moth 13 Registered User regular
    The writing in TROS is so bad that it is the first Star Wars movie I've seen where I'm like "Maybe we just don't count this as canon. At all."

    What? You don't want to read a comic about how Poe became a drug dealer?

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    BedigunzBedigunz Registered User regular
    edited February 2020
    I just finished Alphabet Squadron

    It's wild, but this might be one of like three Star Wars books I like without reservation? It's just good from top to bottom!

    If English writing isn't used in the Star Wars universe, why are the ships shaped like letters from the English language?

    Does the book cover this?

    Bedigunz on
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    Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    Bedigunz wrote: »
    I just finished Alphabet Squadron

    It's wild, but this might be one of like three Star Wars books I like without reservation? It's just good from top to bottom!

    If English writing isn't used in the Star Wars universe, why are the ships shaped like letters from the English language?

    Does the book cover this?

    English writing is used in the original Star Wars movie!

    Humor can be dissected as a frog can, but dies in the process.
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    EtchwartsEtchwarts Eyes Up Registered User regular
    Bedigunz wrote: »
    I just finished Alphabet Squadron

    It's wild, but this might be one of like three Star Wars books I like without reservation? It's just good from top to bottom!

    If English writing isn't used in the Star Wars universe, why are the ships shaped like letters from the English language?

    Does the book cover this?

    It does not

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    Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    Moth 13 wrote: »
    The writing in TROS is so bad that it is the first Star Wars movie I've seen where I'm like "Maybe we just don't count this as canon. At all."

    What? You don't want to read a comic about how Poe became a drug dealer?

    wait what

    Humor can be dissected as a frog can, but dies in the process.
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    DepressperadoDepressperado I just wanted to see you laughing in the pizza rainRegistered User regular
    plenty of respectable people become drug dealers

    you uh

    you want some deathsticks?

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    Grey GhostGrey Ghost Registered User regular
    Moth 13 wrote: »
    The writing in TROS is so bad that it is the first Star Wars movie I've seen where I'm like "Maybe we just don't count this as canon. At all."

    What? You don't want to read a comic about how Poe became a drug dealer?

    wait what

    He was a spice runner
    Spice is drugs

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    Commander ZoomCommander Zoom Registered User regular
    the drugs must flow

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    LasbrookLasbrook It takes a lot to make a stew When it comes to me and youRegistered User regular
    Bedigunz wrote: »
    I just finished Alphabet Squadron

    It's wild, but this might be one of like three Star Wars books I like without reservation? It's just good from top to bottom!

    If English writing isn't used in the Star Wars universe, why are the ships shaped like letters from the English language?

    Does the book cover this?

    English writing is used in the original Star Wars movie!

    Yeah but they fixed that.

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    DepressperadoDepressperado I just wanted to see you laughing in the pizza rainRegistered User regular
    Grey Ghost wrote: »
    Moth 13 wrote: »
    The writing in TROS is so bad that it is the first Star Wars movie I've seen where I'm like "Maybe we just don't count this as canon. At all."

    What? You don't want to read a comic about how Poe became a drug dealer?

    wait what

    He was a spice runner
    Spice is drugs

    so was Han, tho!

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    BedigunzBedigunz Registered User regular
    Bedigunz wrote: »
    I just finished Alphabet Squadron

    It's wild, but this might be one of like three Star Wars books I like without reservation? It's just good from top to bottom!

    If English writing isn't used in the Star Wars universe, why are the ships shaped like letters from the English language?

    Does the book cover this?

    English writing is used in the original Star Wars movie!

    wait, where was English writing shown?

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    Coran Attack!
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    Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    Bedigunz wrote: »
    Bedigunz wrote: »
    I just finished Alphabet Squadron

    It's wild, but this might be one of like three Star Wars books I like without reservation? It's just good from top to bottom!

    If English writing isn't used in the Star Wars universe, why are the ships shaped like letters from the English language?

    Does the book cover this?

    English writing is used in the original Star Wars movie!

    wait, where was English writing shown?

    Death Star tractor beam IIRC

    Humor can be dissected as a frog can, but dies in the process.
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    EspantaPajaroEspantaPajaro Registered User regular
    Man why did I think Kannan was black? Talking with friends about rebels and I guess I was super off basis .

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    Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    Grey Ghost wrote: »
    Moth 13 wrote: »
    The writing in TROS is so bad that it is the first Star Wars movie I've seen where I'm like "Maybe we just don't count this as canon. At all."

    What? You don't want to read a comic about how Poe became a drug dealer?

    wait what

    He was a spice runner
    Spice is drugs
    point of order

    that makes him a drug smuggler

    not a drug dealer

    Humor can be dissected as a frog can, but dies in the process.
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    QuidQuid Definitely not a banana Registered User regular
    It's weird how they made a huge deal about Poe smuggling drugs

    Like, there's a decades long genocidal war going on, planets are exploding, Poe's best friend was part of the space fascists a few weeks ago

    But Poe smuggling drugs is what everyone focused on as if it were this unforgivable crime

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    DaypigeonDaypigeon Registered User regular
    Bedigunz wrote: »
    Bedigunz wrote: »
    I just finished Alphabet Squadron

    It's wild, but this might be one of like three Star Wars books I like without reservation? It's just good from top to bottom!

    If English writing isn't used in the Star Wars universe, why are the ships shaped like letters from the English language?

    Does the book cover this?

    English writing is used in the original Star Wars movie!

    wait, where was English writing shown?
    you know, the big yellow letters that float mysteriously through space

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    Commander ZoomCommander Zoom Registered User regular
    edited February 2020
    Daypigeon wrote: »
    Bedigunz wrote: »
    Bedigunz wrote: »
    I just finished Alphabet Squadron

    It's wild, but this might be one of like three Star Wars books I like without reservation? It's just good from top to bottom!

    If English writing isn't used in the Star Wars universe, why are the ships shaped like letters from the English language?

    Does the book cover this?

    English writing is used in the original Star Wars movie!

    wait, where was English writing shown?
    you know, the big yellow letters that float mysteriously through space

    ... now I'm imagining the opening crawl(s) in aurebesh and everyone going "WTF IS THIS?!"

    except for the nerds who can sight-read it. :)

    Commander Zoom on
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    PlatyPlaty Registered User regular
    Quid wrote: »
    It's weird how they made a huge deal about Poe smuggling drugs

    Like, there's a decades long genocidal war going on, planets are exploding, Poe's best friend was part of the space fascists a few weeks ago

    But Poe smuggling drugs is what everyone focused on as if it were this unforgivable crime

    This sounds like a anti-drug commercial from the 90s

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    Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    It's kind of amazing how they managed to do the opening crawl with 1970s era technology

    Humor can be dissected as a frog can, but dies in the process.
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    nightmarennynightmarenny Registered User regular
    edited February 2020
    Quid wrote: »
    It's weird how they made a huge deal about Poe smuggling drugs

    Like, there's a decades long genocidal war going on, planets are exploding, Poe's best friend was part of the space fascists a few weeks ago

    But Poe smuggling drugs is what everyone focused on as if it were this unforgivable crime

    Except they don't! That's what makes it even weirder. It gets built up like its a big deal and then they find out and nobody says another word on it the rest of the movie.

    nightmarenny on
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    SiliconStewSiliconStew Registered User regular
    Grey Ghost wrote: »
    Moth 13 wrote: »
    The writing in TROS is so bad that it is the first Star Wars movie I've seen where I'm like "Maybe we just don't count this as canon. At all."

    What? You don't want to read a comic about how Poe became a drug dealer?

    wait what

    He was a spice runner
    Spice is drugs

    so was Han, tho!

    Which is exactly why Poe is one, because Abrams lacks originality.

    Just remember that half the people you meet are below average intelligence.
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    HobnailHobnail Registered User regular
    So whats spice like we talkin space weed or space cocaine I could get down with some space weed but I assume the production of space cocaine as managed by space drug cartels renders the product beyond any sort of ethical consumption

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    PlatyPlaty Registered User regular
    Spice was mined in the spice mines of Kessel where Wookiee slaves were worked to death

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    Commander ZoomCommander Zoom Registered User regular
    edited February 2020
    "Spice" is a catchall slang term (like, well, "drugs" or "narcotics") but is often used in reference to a specific sort, also known as "glitterstim", which is mined in Kessel.
    Totally not the same thing as melange. Really.

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    see317see317 Registered User regular
    So whats spice like we talkin space weed or space cocaine I could get down with some space weed but I assume the production of space cocaine as managed by space drug cartels renders the product beyond any sort of ethical consumption
    https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Spice/Legends

    Old EU, the term Spice was just a generic term for a wide variety of drugs with similarly wide ranging effects. Some of them were just space weed, some of them would drastically increase a users psychic powers (because that's what happens when you smoke a giant space spiders web).

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    TankHammerTankHammer Atlanta Ghostbuster Atlanta, GARegistered User regular
    edited February 2020
    In the RPG there are a few spices.
    Marcan Herb Spice (basically weed) - Mild naarcotic. Can nduce a sense of euphoria upon inhalation (often smoked in hookah pipes)
    Ryll Spice (addictive pain-killers) - Relative mild but addictive spice mined on Ryloth. Dose allows user to ignore effects of single Easy or Avarage Critical Injury Result until end of the scene or encounter. 2 doses: ignore single Hard Crit Injury. When effect ends: Suffer effect of Injury as normal and also , on all checks until end of session.
    Neutron Pixie Spice (space mushrooms) - Powerful hallucinogenic spice with calming effect. Spice is derived from Black Gabaju a variant of common Grey Gabaki Mushroom-like plant from Toydoria.
    A dose grant user automatic on GE and WI checks until end of encounter. When effects ends: user suffer automatic on all STR, IN, LIS checks for remainder of game session due to nausea, aches, weakness and mental torpor.

    Gunjack Spice (space cocaine) - Synthesized spice. Dose increases users STR by 1 (but max to 6) until end of scene or encounter, but additionally each dose consumed upgrades the difficulty of GE, IN, LIS checks 1x until end of session.

    https://star-wars-rpg-ffg.fandom.com/wiki/Special:Search?query=Spice

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    Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    Spice became legal in the old EU after the fall of the empire

    totally space weed

    Humor can be dissected as a frog can, but dies in the process.
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    DarkPrimusDarkPrimus Registered User regular
    Thinking of getting a custom t-shirt made for if I ever go to Galaxy's Edge.

    It'll be big Aurebesh text that reads
    COUNTERFEIT
    MERCHANDISE

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    TankHammerTankHammer Atlanta Ghostbuster Atlanta, GARegistered User regular
    I like that the implications are that in a vast, fantasy universe they can just mine rocks to get their drugs instead of having to go through lengthy grow operations or refinement processes.

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    TankHammerTankHammer Atlanta Ghostbuster Atlanta, GARegistered User regular
    "Spice" is a catchall slang term (like, well, "drugs" or "narcotics") but is often used in reference to a specific sort, also known as "glitterstim", which is mined in Kessel.
    Totally not the same thing as melange. Really.

    Our bounty-hunter player got super high on glitterstim early in our EotE campaign and cleaned out most of a ship full of spice-running gangsters on her own.
    The rest of us kept waiting for her to die for running ahead but she had a LOT of spice and was rolling astronomically well. It defined her character from then on out.

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    Rorshach KringleRorshach Kringle that crustache life Registered User regular
    i finally met cad bane a few days ago, and just puting a cowboy hat on a gigantic dweeb that looks like the villain from toy story 2?

    that's what ya'll like?

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    ShortyShorty touching the meat Intergalactic Cool CourtRegistered User regular
    cad bane is a costume

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    Commander ZoomCommander Zoom Registered User regular
    TankHammer wrote: »
    "Spice" is a catchall slang term (like, well, "drugs" or "narcotics") but is often used in reference to a specific sort, also known as "glitterstim", which is mined in Kessel.
    Totally not the same thing as melange. Really.

    Our bounty-hunter player got super high on glitterstim early in our EotE campaign and cleaned out most of a ship full of spice-running gangsters on her own.
    The rest of us kept waiting for her to die for running ahead but she had a LOT of spice and was rolling astronomically well. It defined her character from then on out.

    *dodges blaster bolts like they're in slow motion*
    "I'M SO KRIFFIN' HIGH RIGHT NOW"
    *headshot, headshot, headshot*

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    FencingsaxFencingsax It is difficult to get a man to understand, when his salary depends upon his not understanding GNU Terry PratchettRegistered User regular
    i finally met cad bane a few days ago, and just puting a cowboy hat on a gigantic dweeb that looks like the villain from toy story 2?

    that's what ya'll like?

    Weren't the villains in Toy Story 2 the prospector and the collector?

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