[BATTLETECH/MechWarrior] More 'Mech action than you can shake an UrbanMech at!

NipsNips Luxuriating in existential crisis.Registered User regular
edited December 2019 in Games and Technology
Welcome to the combined BATTLETECH/MechWarrior superthread! It is here that we appreciate only the finest in stompy bot action.

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"In the brutal conflict of the Succession Wars, the only thing that matters is getting paid."

BATTLETECH (www.battletechgame.com) is a new entry into the long line of BattleTech and MechWarrior products. Bringing the PC game line back to its roots, BATTLETECH is a tactical and strategic simulator, where your decisions on the battlefield and on the dropship will determine if your mercenary unit makes out like bandits, or dies bleeding out on some backwater planet.



In BATTLETECH you command a mercenary unit embarked upon the Argo, a lost-to-the-ages Jumpship design. Outfit with all of the essentials required to run a mercenary unit, you chart the course for the Argo across the Aurigan Reach, right between the Magistracy of Canopus, the Capellan Confederation and the Taurian Concordat.

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Using a full roster of 'Mechs, pilots, and equipment, you will command your units across a vast number of star systems and planets, making bank and taking names, to achieve glory and notoriety beyond the Reach.

'Mechs Confirmed for the launch product:
Light:

Locust
Commando
Spider
Firestarter
Jenner
Panther
UrbanMech
Raven

Medium:

Cicada
Blackjack
Vindicator
Centurion
Enforcer
Hunchback
Trebuchet
Griffin
Kintaro
Shadowhawk
Wolverine

Heavy:

Dragon
Quickdraw
Catapult
JagerMech
Thunderbolt
Grasshopper
Orion
Marauder
Warhammer
Cataphract

Assault:

Awesome
Victor
Zeus
Battlemaster
Stalker
Highlander
Banshee
King Crab
Atlas

The game was originally Kickstarted in 2016., and is being published by Paradox Interactive (yes, those fine gents!). The game launched on April 24, 2018! It's out now!


FOR THOSE OF YOU JOINING US FROM THE TABLETOP BATTLETECH GAME, HERE ARE SOME THINGS YOU NEED TO UNDERSTAND!!!
Jacobkosh wrote: »
Mostly it's invisible stuff. To-hit rolls and location rolls are calculated differently. Missiles roll for hits and damage individually instead of in tranches of five. Some weapon ranges and damage/heat values have been tweaked (generally with the idea of bringing in the statistical extremes closer to the middle), and since the game uses different numeric scales than the tabletop, there would be no way to know this sort of thing unless you sat there actually mathing it out, or literally counting pixels on the landscape to figure out that the AC/5 is going ten meters further or something.

The most visible actual change is the initiative system. It has five phases, counting down from 5 to 1. Lights go on phase 4, mediums on phase 3, and so forth. Some characters will have skills letting them act one phase sooner than normal (so the rarely-used phase 5 is for pilots with that ability in light mechs). Mechs can reserve their initiative to act in a later phase, so lights can do stuff like reserve till phase 1, dart out from cover, attack, and then immediately go again at the top of the next round to dart back into cover before anyone can retaliate.

Pilots have four skills - Gunnery, Pilots, Tactics, and Guts - which confer different passive bonuses - gunnery and piloting are obvious; guts increases survivability as well as brawny stuff like reducing recoil penalties from AC shots, and tactics covers indirect fireand doing tricks with the initiative system. Each skill also grants two special active abilities (one at rank 4 in a skill, the other at rank 8). Pilots only have three skill slots, though, so even a veteran pilot with max ranks in all abilities will only ever have three active powers (the first three they qualified for), leading to a lot of different possible specializations.

Heat doesn't degrade performance; instead, when it's over a certain point (like 75%, but varies depending on pilot skills) it deals direct damage to internal structure.

Mechs have a stability meter, whose length is affected by the pilot's Guts score. Different weapon attacks suffered by the mech fill the meter to different degrees (AC20 or melee fills it a lot, lasers not at all). When it's halfway filled, the mech can no longer benefit from certain kinds of defense and movement bonuses. When it's full, the mech falls over.

Falling over or being shut down from heat are what let enemy pilots make called shots to specific areas. A called shot doesn't guarantee a hit to that area, but weights the shot distribution.

Mechs have three main kinds of defense: evasion, cover, and guarded stance.

Evasion is usually granted by moving quickly, or using jump jets. It gives your mech a number (1-5) of little evasion chevrons depending on how much they moved. Each chevron imposes a stacking penalty on incoming fire. A Locust at full sprint is almost impossible to hit. However, each salvo fired at the mech strips away an evasion chevron, so that Locust is vulnerable if several enemies focus it down. Being hit in melee also immediately removes all chevrons.

Cover gives a flat damage reduction, usually something like 25%.

Guarded stance is an state a Mech can attain by taking the Brace action in lieu of attacking, or is granted by certain powers or in certain circumstances. It reduces damage and stability damage from incoming fire by 50%, but only on the front and sides. Bracing also completely drains the Stability bar, so the mech is in less danger of being knocked down.

In the Mechlab, Mechs use a hardpoint system similar to but different from MWO. Along with ballistic, missile, and laser weapon types, there's a fourth hardpoint type, called "support weapons," which covers machine guns, flamers, and small lasers. Support weapons fire automatically when you make a melee attack.

Weapons have different manufacturers with different bonuses (it's always a straight bonus, though, rather than some kind of tradeoff). Some weapons are of exceptional quality and are denoted as + or ++ weapons (so like an LRM20++). These pluses can mean different things based on the manufacturer but they're always significant bonuses.

Want more beginner tips?
Inquisitor wrote:
First video in Party Elite's Battletech Basics video series, good for more visual learners who want a breakdown of UI elements and basic gameplay ideas:

Christopher Eck's Eckcellent Primer to BattletEck Combat Systems (OpNote: I don't condone the excessive branding, but the content is good!)
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1365402907


Want to know all the stats, for all the things? There's a spreadsheet for that!
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1fnaqQv8nnYpy9gtQm75-D6fmYfNJ5u3OALSIe8ckOuo/htmlview?usp=sharing&sle=true


More tips, locally-sourced from SE++
So. A few short notes on various types of weapons in Battletech:

LRMs:
The LRM5, LRM15 and LRM20 are roughly equivalent. It might not seem so (due to weight differences etc), but it's basicly like this.
1. All LRMs take up 1 slot per 5 missiles.
2. LRM20s and LRM15s are heavier than LRM5s per missiles fired (LRM20 more so than LRM15), but that's because they have built in Heatsinks. Actually slightly better than normal heatsinks because it's better to not generate heat in the first place. Try it yourself by building a 60 missile salvo and then heatbalancing the various builds. Also, bigger launchers means fewer hardpoints used.
3. LRM10s suck. 1 LRM10 has 100% more missiles, generate 100% more heat but it weighs 150% more. Yeah. It sucks. Don't use it.
Conclusion: Avoid LRM10s. Smaller mechs (where total heat is less of an issue) should generally use LRM5s, singly or in pairs, since it has the best damage/ton. Once you're generating 30+ heat with all your weapons in the long rangeband LRM15s and LRM20s are roughly equivalent, with LRM15s having an advantage in cold regions and LRM20s an advantage in hot regions.
SRMs
While all SRM launchers are equal in terms of weight they're not equivalent in heat. SRM2s generate 3 heat per missile, while SRM4s only generate 2 heat per missile. SRM6s are basically a mashed together SRM4 and SRM2. SRM6s do have the advantage that it's the maximum amount of missiles per hardpoint.
The loadout principle for SRMs should be:
1. Fill out your hardpoints with SRM4s
2. Add sufficient ammo (6-15 full salvos is generally ideal. Closer to 15 the more you rely on SRMs to deal your damage for you).
3. Do you still have heat/weight left for more missiles. Replace SRM4s with SRM6s until satisfied.
Support weapons:
So Small laser or MG? Well, basically it depends on what you're going to use them for, and how many. Small lasers generate more damage per ton, but fire only one shot and generate heat. MGs fire 5 shots, have a bonus to crit (so they're amazing critseekers) but require ammo. And this heat vs ammo thing is really important. 1 ton of ammo for a ½ ton weapon is WAY overkill, and you'll basicly need to use 4+ MGs to even hope to make a dent in your ammo supply. On the other hand Small lasers start to generate significant amounts of heat once you have 3 or 4 of them. At the same time you have to take the heat from the rest of your arsenal into account, because once you need heatsinks a small laser basicly needs two heatsinks to compensate for the heat generated. Not so efficient.
My rule of thumb:
1. If you have a single Support weapon hardpoint, always use Small lasers. It has the best damage per ton of any weapon and 5 heat is piddly.
2. At 2 hardpoints you have to ask yourself, am I running a very cool or a very hot mech? Am I even going to use my small lasers outside melee? The hotter your mech is the more it favors using MGs.
3. At 4+ hardpoints you should probably use MGs. The Firestarter for example will use its support hardpoints mainly for short ranged damage, and since it runs very hot with its huge array of energy weapons it should probably use MGs. A Grasshopper should probably also use MGs, since it will probably use 6 of them. A shadowhawk on the other hand should probably use Small Lasers.
ACs:
The useful ACs seem to be AC/20 and AC/5.
The AC/5 is like a slightly heavier but much cooler PPC, and an ideal weapon for long range sniping. Especially if you're going to mount two of them since 2xPPCs is like rolling in molten lava.
The AC/2 and AC/10 on the other hand seem to have very pathetic advantages over the AC/5 at a huge cost in damage/ton. Comparing the AC/2 and AC/5...The AC/5 is 33% more weight for almost 100% more damage? Sign me up, because 540 meters is plenty of range. The more ammo per ton isn't really significant between the AC/2 and AC/5.
The AC/20 is another huge leap in damage over the AC/10, this at a very small extra cost in terms of tonnage. Also, the intimidation factor of the AC/20 is significant

Want to edit the Oosik Irregulars logo into the game? Say no more!
So I had a hell of a time guessing the right settings to modify the emblems to get the Oosik logo into the game. Dunno if anyone else has done it, but here is a download link you can copy right into:
Steam/steamapps/common/BATTLETECH/BattleTech_Data/StreamingAssets/emblems/player

It will replace the Paradox Logo and you can switch to it in your Quarters on the Argo in game.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1G64xeFrOxCFTnaYTWARo-7eJHmzUW87x/view?usp=sharing

Simple!


Looking for some further background fiction? Look no further than these recommendations!

There's over a hundred books in the Battletech universe, so you're going to get a lot of opinions. Here's some decent ones, with the Grey Death Legion trilogy and Wolves on the Border probably my top picks from these. This list is in rough chronological order for their events in the Battletech universe as well.


Decision at Thunder Rift - Keith - Grey Death Legion #1
Mercenary’s Star - Keith - Grey Death Legion #2
The Price of Glory - Keith - Grey Death Legion #3

Warrior: En Guarde - Stackpole - Warrior Trilogy #1
Warrior: Riposte - Stackpole - Warrior Trilogy #2
Warrior: Coupe - Stackpole - Warrior Trilogy #3

Wolves on the Border - Charrette
Heir to the Dragon - Charrette

Lethal Heritage - Stackpole - Kerensky Trilogy #1
Blood Legacy - Stackpole - Kerensky Trilogy #2
Lost Destiny - Stackpole - Kerensky Trilogy #3

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  • NipsNips Luxuriating in existential crisis.Registered User regular
    edited December 2019
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    Yes, it exists! You can currently buy it on the Epic Games Store.
    The year is 3015. Humanity has colonized thousands of star systems spanning a vast region of space known as the Inner Sphere.

    With a golden age of cooperation and advancement now a distant memory, humanity has once again splintered into disparate factions all vying for supremacy.

    In the midst of these Succession Wars, it is a dangerous and lucrative time to be a Mercenary.

    THE BOTTOM LINE: You blow stuff up using a 'Mech. You make money. You repeat. There's a story, or so I'm told.

    It's very pretty.

    Do you use a HOTAS? Do you want to use a HOTAS for MW5? Here's some help!

    From our good friend @Goumindong, originally compiled by our friend @Forbe!, here's some Weapons Maths that might be useful to an aspiring Lance Leader.
    Goumindong wrote: »
    I took the weapon value spreadsheet, removed everything but tier 5 and added DPS/Ton and DPS/Ton+1* so that its easier to look at and search though (its on page 2 of the copied spreadsheet here)

    https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Oy3FUWvs-VGAu23OM2AMp_5QO-xq6VDHos9bX5L74dM/edit?usp=sharing

    I will eventually get around to doing sum Damage/Ton and Damage/Heat and DPS/Compensated* since i think this also matters in some/many cases


    *That is assuming you take one tonne of ammo for every weapon you equip.

    **that is DPS per tonne of Heat Dissipation and ammo weight

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  • NipsNips Luxuriating in existential crisis.Registered User regular
    edited December 2019

    See the most amazing announcement in Oosik Irregulars history here, by the lead developer of CGL! The Oosiks are canon!

    Reactor...online. Sensors...online. Weapons...online. All systems nominal.

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    Greetings potential pilot, and welcome to the Mark 4.2 Mechwarrior Online OP, now with 200% more WubWub and 5000% more hyphens and commas!
    It has been reorganized, and in some spots rewritten, to provide more relevant and concise information for our growing roster of pilots.
    If you have anything you would like to see added to the OP, or notice any errors, please contact @Nips and I'll do my best to update the post.

    Remember pilots, this is Battletech. Around these parts, common sense is Lostech.


    What is Mechwarrior Online?
    Mechwarrior Online is a free-to-play, PC-based, online shooter produced by Piranha Games Interactive. MWO places you in the command seat of a heavily armed and armored walking battle machine that you pilot in team-based matches against other Mechwarriors. Your mech is very customizable and able to field a huge assortment of energy, ballistic, and missile weapons along with an array of modules and other utility items. At the end of each match you earn C-Bills, the in-game currency used to buy more items and mechs, and experience that is used to enhance the piloting abilities of your war machines. Between matches, you can customize your mech with a variety of engines, weapons, subsystem modules, and chassis enhancements until you have your chosen chassis tailored to your liking.

    There are currently six game modes:
    • In Skirmish, your team is pitted directly against the enemy team in a battle to the death! The team with the last mech standing wins.
    • In Assault, you and your team attempt to capture the enemy team's base without losing your own, or eliminate the enemy team.
    • For Incursion, which is similar to Assault, each team controls a base with fixed and destructible defenses (turrets, walls, etc.). Three command vehicles in each team's base must be destroyed for total victory.
    • Conquest is a traditional domination mode where you and your team are attempting to control resource nodes that generate victory points. The first team to reach 750 victory points, or that eliminates the opposing force, wins.
    • Domination focuses on controlling a central zone on a map, with tertiary objectives to destroy. If a team is uncontested in the zone, their timer decrements until victory; destroying the tertiary objectives adds time back to the timer.
    • Escort pits one team as the Defenders, escorting a (hilariously over-armored) VIP Atlas across the map. Meanwhile, the opposing Attackers attempt to destroy the VIP.
    Also, Faction Play pits player-based Mercenary Corps and PGI operated Houses against each other for control of entire planets and territory throughout the Inner Sphere; see the following post for more information!

    Sounds good, where do I start?
    1.) Download the client at http://www.mwomercs.com, or download it from Steam and install it.
    2.) Once logged into the game, go through the Training Academy tutorials. This game has a bit of a learning curve to it and while it's not super-steep, it's definitely not just a jump-in-and-click-things-until-you-win sort of game. Be sure to watch the Weapon Grouping video as it'll do the most to help keep you alive. Chain fire is your friend, learn to use it.
    2a.) Penny Arcade also did some Pilot Safety Posters and while they're humorous, they do have some good information in them.
    3.) When you start the game you will have access to a number of trial mechs that rotate out for new mechs every month or so. These are non-customizable mechs, designed by PGI and the community for ease-of-entry into learning the game (except for the Stalker; that thing's a newbie death trap). Select a mech, and use the in-game Tutorial and Training Grounds to get a feel for how the game controls. Move around. Shoot your guns. Try overheating, then remember that overheating is bad.
    4.) Jump into real matches! After each match you will earn some C-Bills, Mech XP, and General XP. C-Bills are the in-game currency used to buy everything except cosmetic items. At the end of each of your first twenty-five matches, you'll earn a Cadet C-bill bonus that you can save up to purchase your first mech. You'll also earn Mech XP, which is specific to the mech you earned it on and is used to buy piloting enhancements like faster torso rotation or better heat mitigation. You'll also also earn General XP that can be used on any mech, and can also be used to unlock modules and module improvements.
    5.) Mech Credits (MC) are the in-game currency that you purchase with real money in order to shortcut your way to a new mechs and equipment. MC is also used to purchase premium account status and cosmetic items for your mech like new paint jobs, and items to put in your cockpit like bobblehead dolls.
    6.) Need more advice? There's a solid Reddit thread here for new or returning players.
    Nobody wrote: »
    Also, I'd suggest including the following playlist put together by Kanajashi for a new player to watch through, each video is (relatively) short with the longest clocking in at almost 12 minutes while the majority are around 5 minutes. Skip videos 10 and 11, they refer to an older build of the game:

    I also recommend BlackhawkSC's channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCPs5gMT_adp5tDSgqTWym8w/featured He doesn't update anymore but he has a lot of good videos up going into detail on the serious business side. He has a few videos with suggestions for your first mech as well as how to outfit it.

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    Twitter: https://twitter.com/TheOosiks
    Our anthem.

    We play on the Penny Arcade Ventrilo server; it's dangerous to go alone, so be sure to take this!
    http://www.ventrilo.com/download.php
    Host: vent15.gameservers.com
    Port: 4384
    Password: Ask one of the thread regulars!

    Our man @Gnome-Interruptus has also set us up with a MWO/BT specific Discord channel, for those so inclined:
    https://discord.gg/dpbeXd2
    Thanks Gnome!

    The Origins of the Oosik Irregulars
    The Oosik Irregulars formed when the 2nd Oosik Regulars, while deploying to protect a critical steelworks on Twycross, "mis-calculated" a set of jump coordinates and arrived instead in orbit of Talisker IV. Apparently not realizing the mistake, the Oosiks took up defensive positions--which would later prove fortunate, as the planet was subject to a surprise attack by a combined-arms force of 'mechs and infantry in an attempt to take control of its HPG uplink. In the ensuing battle, the HPG uplink was swiftly destroyed (allegedly due to friendly fire), but the Oosiks--now out of contact with their command structure--elected to remain on Talisker IV. They dug in around the capital city--incidentally home of the sector's only Class 3 brewery--and prepared to fight an extended siege. In the following weeks, the Oosiks earned a reputation as one of the most obdurate and immovable companies in the Inner Sphere. According to contemporary accounts, they could be dislodged neither by any quantity of enemy fire nor by the direct, angrily-shouted orders of their superiors.
    In the aftermath of the conflict, the Oosik Irregulars became a mercenary unit, claiming Talisker IV as their base of operations henceforth.

    Who are the Oosik Irregulars?
    We are a very loosely organized (and by loosely we mean not at all) mercenary corp that is open to anyone who wants to join. The Penny Arcade community frequently makes loose groups for new games just to make it easier to find people to play with, and while this started out as just another one of those it has grown into so much more. We formed under the banner of The Oosik Irregulars as a way to honor the great forumer @A Flock Of Walrus who brought us closed beta footage at the expense of his access to the game, and have since become a tightly-knit group of very active players.

    We don't care about player skill levels or general MWO experience. Our primary goal is to have fun and help each other out, including brand new players. If this is your first time launching the game we'll happily drop alongside you. We have a lot of experienced community members more than willing to help you out and I can't think of a single person that would refuse to let you roll in a lance with them. If you're an experienced pilot already then you'll also find players looking to push themselves as hard as possible in this game, and who are constantly working to improve their game. There is something for everyone in the Oosiks Irregulars!

    How do I join the Oosik Irregulars?
    The good news is you already have! There is no application, no interview, no skill level check, or anything else involved. Just show up, start playing, and don't be shy in the thread. We mostly don't bite.

    Do you guys stream matches at all?
    Several fine gentlemen in the Oosiks have thrown a stream party or two. Keep your eyes and ears on the thread! You just never know when.

    Where can I get a sig from!?
    PM @Nips, @TOGSolid, or @Kashaar

    What the hell is a Targeting Computer? Or a Command Console? Why should I care?
    You generally shouldn't care, but if you're interested (and not in-game, when you're doing your theorycrafting, follow this link to an image that details what these pieces of equipment do!
    Command Console and Target Computer Stats

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    1.) Flanking is god.
    If there is a primary battle line and you're not in a mech that needs to be holding that line then circle around and pounce the stragglers/high value targets like LRM boats. Jumping the LRM boats is an especially game-changing thing to do because once those LRMs stop flying PUG players get really emboldened and ballsy. Even if you die you will still be the big god-damn hero. Learning the maps is a huge part of this; use the terrain to your advantage to successfully jump and annihilate packs of targets.

    2.) Learn your range bands and proper positioning.
    If you are a brawler then that doesn't necessarily mean you need to get in ASAP. Allow the fight to evolve a bit and wait for targets of opportunity. Go off to the sides and see if you have open lines to approach on to catch your enemies unaware. Conversely, if you are sniper and can still freely shoot things then why move in if you don't have to? Obviously, if you need to reposition to take advantage of the changing battle lines then do so but moving in just to move in? Nah, don't do this. This also kinda applies to brawlers since this is how you end up with a giant clusterfuck of people all at 10 meters trying to get hits in.

    3.) Learn your mech.
    Trying to get into a hill humping contest with a Stalker while you're in an Atlas? Bad idea. Your guns are low slung and you have to expose yourself a lot to use them. Doing it in a Jager? Brilliant. That mech's hardpoints are tailor-made for this sort of thing. This also means using these hardpoints to your advantage and putting appropriate weaponry in them. For instance, don't put your big guns in the lowest slung points on your mech. Keep em high and you'll be able to take advantage of any hills. Of course, this depends on your mech but this goes back to playing your chosen variant correctly. Don't use the Cataphract CTF-4X as a hill-humper because all the big guns are super low slung. DO use it to keep people suppressed when you can and as a heavy fire support mech. Similarly, don't try to use a Victor as a frontline mech. You hit hard but don't have Atlas grade armor to absorb hits with. DO use an Atlas for that because it's a purpose-built party crasher.

    4.) Play medium mechs a lot, even though the meta would make you think they're bad.
    Yes, really. The better armor and firepower of a heavy or assault Mech is no replacement for good situational awareness and positioning. Pick a mech with a specific role to flesh out your skills in that area, i.e. if you want to be a better brawler then run a HBK-4G. You will die a lot, you will get your ass kicked, and it will make you a better pilot.

    5.) Patience can help a lot.
    There are just as many times when hanging back and waiting for the right moment is just as advantageous as crashing the gates and going nuts. This is especially true in the current meta where a lot of stuff out there that can vaporize you if you get too ballsy.
    That said, there is a time and a place for coordinated, balls-out gate crashing. Going in with your buddies all at once can do amazing things to break the enemy's lines but it has to be done carefully and at the right time, which goes back to that whole fickle patience thing.

    6.) Let the pubbies go first.
    They tend to follow anyone that looks even remotely competent. Seeing as how we tend to love flanking maneuvers and speed we end up with a tendency to have the pubbies follow us when we're counting on them to blob to their usual locations. Wait a little bit at the start of the match before you strike out to do horrible things to the enemy's butts.

    7.) Want some great fundamentals training? Don't be shy about taking your mech onto the training grounds and just cruising around checking out the maps to learn it.
    While you're doing that keep moving at high speeds as you shoot up the dummy mechs to learn to move and shoot fluidly. Circle around them while keeping your crosshair on the target via torso twisting until you don't have to think about it. Practice popping up behind a hill, acquiring your target, firing, and hiding as fast as possible until it becomes second nature. The more skills you commit to muscle memory, the better a pilot you'll be. Remember, you fight like you train so train like you fight.

    8.) Want some great aim training?
    Pick up a copy of Unreal Tournament 2004 and setup a bot deathmatch with lightning guns only and the game speed mutator set to 150% speed. From here, practice getting headshots on the move in the training grounds. It's a hard target to hit in most mechs and it will help you fine tune your aim with MWO's weapons.

    9.) Call your targets to aid in focus firing and for Kerensky's sake, press R to lock on to your targets!
    With 12 vs 12 and the recent UI upgrades, we have more phonetic alphabet letters to learn to aid in target calling! For your reference here's the full list:
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    10.) Builds, Builds, Builds!
    With PGI's launch of the new Skill Tree system in June 2017, many pilots have been left wondering "WTF do I do with this thing?". Also, the metagame is a constantly-shifting monster, and 'Mechs routinely come in and out of favor among the MWO regulars. To help a returning player get back in, the following metagame builds list was recommended by current MWO-grinder and friend to all @Nobody:
    https://grimmechs.isengrim.org/

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    0.) When in doubt, use Steam to install/load MWO. This way, you don't need to monkey around with the stand-alone launcher PGI originally released, that is rapidly approaching end-of-life.
    1.) A lot of times when emailing support they will have you run the official MWO repair tool. The repair tool is built into the launcher, select the gear icon in the upper right corner of the window, then select "Start the MWO repair tool". Try this before going any more in depth with trying to fix things!
    2.) A reinstall can do wonders if you're having problems with the bootstrap launcher (the patcher thing that pops up before you get the login window). Sometimes the uninstall goes wrong (because of course), so go here if it won't reinstall.
    3.) Try manually deleting the shader cache (MWO should do this automatically, but sometimes fails and it gets corrupted). The post in the link also gives steps to set up a batch script to force the deletion each time MWO loads.
    4.) This is a weird fix, but some people found that moving the install directory to another physical drive solves crashes. Literally cut/paste the directory and update shortcuts manually. Not sure if moving to another partition on the same drive helps.
    5.) Force your video card to stop power-save throttling and disable ambient occlusion.
    6.) Force multi-threading, in case the game isn't using all available cores.
    Tips from @Cabezone!
    7.) I recommend people run the repair tool even with a new installation. I've had crashing after a fresh install fixed by the tool.
    8.) Setting my PC to high performance also fixed an issue I was having where Mechwarrior was set to some low powered mode and the video card wasn't able to run full out.

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    A big thanks to @TOGSolid‌ for the last OP, upon which this one is heavily based. Thanks Tog!

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  • AxenAxen My avatar is Excalibur. Yes, the sword.Registered User regular
    PSA: When in doubt, ComStar did it.

    A Capellan's favorite sheath for any blade is your back.
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  • Dark_SideDark_Side Registered User regular
    edited December 2019
    Not to mention this game has the WORST example of economic player hate I've seen in a while. Everything you buy costs 10x what it costs to sell! The same stuff!

    The game seems designed to favor salvage more than the stores. With all that salvage dropping, they gotta have mechanics to suck that cash back out from the player, or the player will just amass a massive early bankroll and break the game. It is still annoying though, I agree.

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  • NipsNips Luxuriating in existential crisis.Registered User regular
    edited December 2019
    As with all new threads, if anyone's got suggestions or improvements for any of the OPs, just let me know.

    I'm a....a little light on stuff RE: MW5, as you can imagine, having not played it yet.

    And yes, there's a bunch of old stuff in the other OPs. I promise I'll fix it this time! Maybe.

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  • TynnanTynnan seldom correct, never unsure Registered User regular
    Axen wrote: »
    PSA: When in doubt, ComStar did it.

    Who, the phone company? No way.

  • manwiththemachinegunmanwiththemachinegun METAL GEAR?! Registered User regular
    edited December 2019
    Dark_Side wrote: »
    Not to mention this game has the WORST example of economic player hate I've seen in a while. Everything you buy costs 10x what it costs to sell! The same stuff!

    The game seems designed to favor salvage more than the stores. With all that salvage dropping, they gotta have mechanics to suck that cash back out from the player, or the player will just amass a massive early bankroll and break the game. It is still annoying though, I agree.

    It's just goofy to the point where I'm not sure what the designer intent was. It's pretty clear in the game you're fighting overwhelming odds. Power creep doesn't really seem to be a big deal, as your enemies out number you and have (mostly) equal equipment. Having access to the REALLY good stuff, so long as your smart about buying and selling, doesn't seem like it should be THAT hard.

    Like, I get that a Dire Wolf costs 20x times of an Urbie at around 20 million, but the way the economics work in game is you get maybe 100k for an Urbie, when it's worth 15x that!

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  • BetsuniBetsuni Insert Disk 4 and Press Any Key to Continue Registered User regular
    Nips wrote: »
    As with all new threads, if anyone's got suggestions or improvements for any of the OPs, just let me know.

    I'm a....a little light on stuff RE: MW5, as you can imagine, having not played it yet.

    And yes, there's a bunch of old stuff in the other OPs. I promise I'll fix it this time! Maybe.

    Thanks @Nips for keeping the paperwork going for the Oosiks and Iron Oosiks.

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  • MirkelMirkel FinlandRegistered User regular
    Dark_Side wrote: »
    Not to mention this game has the WORST example of economic player hate I've seen in a while. Everything you buy costs 10x what it costs to sell! The same stuff!

    The game seems designed to favor salvage more than the stores. With all that salvage dropping, they gotta have mechanics to suck that cash back out from the player, or the player will just amass a massive early bankroll and break the game. It is still annoying though, I agree.

    It's just goofy to the point where I'm not sure what the designer intent was. It's pretty clear in the game you're fighting overwhelming odds. Power creep doesn't really seem to be a big deal, as your enemies out number you and have (mostly) equal equipment. Having access to the REALLY good stuff, so long as your smart about buying and selling, doesn't seem like it should be THAT hard.

    Like, I get that a Dire Wolf costs 20x times of an Urbie at around 20 million, but the way the economics work in game is you get maybe 100k for an Urbie, when it's worth 15x that!

    Enemies may outnumber you but you have better loadouts and as soon as you get your first piece of +gear you'll also have better equipment, sometimes as much as +50% better. I agree that it doesn't really make economic sense if you stop and think about it for a while - any mediocre mercenary company would go bankrupt quite fast since you are getting paid way, waaaaay less than the value of your lance and in a fair world you'd win some and lose some. So after you'd lose a few missions you would ruin your finances trying to get everything repaired again. But it all works as a game quite well in my experience so realism be damned. That's what the designer intent was - players are going to win most of their missions and if they make constantly tons of money they will skyrocket through the progression and it'll be boring.

    If you wanted a properly simulated mercenary unit you'd have wins and losses and boring garrison duties and missions where you find no enemies (Darius sometimes talks about we getting paid even if we find nothing to fight, but surprise! That never happens to us.) That sort of thing is a lot harder to do in a way that is fun for most players, so that's not what we got. Instead it's the usual hero's journey stuff where we start from humble beginnings and climb our way to 400 tons and maxed out pilots, winning almost every fight along the way. And for that, the economy makes perfect sense and works just fine.

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  • NipsNips Luxuriating in existential crisis.Registered User regular
    TFW you headshot a Highlander and puree the pilot of a Cyclops...

    ...but you're on a Flashpoint where you didn't get to pick salvage rights, only getting two priority picks.

    😫

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  • NobodyNobody Registered User regular
    MWO build spreadsheet is a bit out of date at this point, the creator contributed to, and now suggests, https://grimmechs.isengrim.org/

    Also, I'd suggest including the following playlist put together by Kanajashi for a new player to watch through, each video is (relatively) short with the longest clocking in at almost 12 minutes while the majority are around 5 minutes. Skip videos 10 and 11, they refer to an older build of the game:


    I also recommend BlackhawkSC's channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCPs5gMT_adp5tDSgqTWym8w/featured He doesn't update anymore but he has a lot of good videos up going into detail on the serious business side. He has a few videos with suggestions for your first mech as well as how to outfit it.

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  • BethrynBethryn Registered User regular
    Doing a Career mode playthrough of BattleTech, and I'm guessing that in the Campaign they disable or significantly lowered the chance of enemies randomly headshotting (presumably because you don't get access to cockpit mods with injury resistance until much later). I think I only had one or two people ever get the injury from headshots over a 60 hour playthrough in Campaign, but in Career I've played 10 hours and now have a roster of 7(8) MechWarriors out of necessity from how many of them spend 15 days a month nursing a bruise.

  • MirkelMirkel FinlandRegistered User regular
    Bethryn wrote: »
    Doing a Career mode playthrough of BattleTech, and I'm guessing that in the Campaign they disable or significantly lowered the chance of enemies randomly headshotting (presumably because you don't get access to cockpit mods with injury resistance until much later). I think I only had one or two people ever get the injury from headshots over a 60 hour playthrough in Campaign, but in Career I've played 10 hours and now have a roster of 7(8) MechWarriors out of necessity from how many of them spend 15 days a month nursing a bruise.

    I've done several campaigns and careers and it's just RNG. If you want to avoid getting head hits, kill anything that has SRMs and MGs first, keep your avoidance high and sacrifice a few chickens to the Lady Luck.

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  • Kaboodles_The_AssassinKaboodles_The_Assassin Kill the meat. Save the metal.Registered User regular
    Please add the HOTAS mappings guide to the MW5 section of the OP

    Link: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1jjTBBtES-wnbChVzDqH7nUZGiOa8ZT0WD3fSVxAA5G8/edit#heading=h.qdelrea04baz

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  • manwiththemachinegunmanwiththemachinegun METAL GEAR?! Registered User regular
    edited December 2019
    Mirkel wrote: »
    Bethryn wrote: »
    Doing a Career mode playthrough of BattleTech, and I'm guessing that in the Campaign they disable or significantly lowered the chance of enemies randomly headshotting (presumably because you don't get access to cockpit mods with injury resistance until much later). I think I only had one or two people ever get the injury from headshots over a 60 hour playthrough in Campaign, but in Career I've played 10 hours and now have a roster of 7(8) MechWarriors out of necessity from how many of them spend 15 days a month nursing a bruise.

    I've done several campaigns and careers and it's just RNG. If you want to avoid getting head hits, kill anything that has SRMs and MGs first, keep your avoidance high and sacrifice a few chickens to the Lady Luck.

    Taking my shiny Atlas on a joyride, I took a PPC round to the head from an enemy Warhammer on the FIRST shot from across the map and ended up with 1 HP. You could see the hole burning and sparking. It was hilarious. That was yesterday.
    I believe that was my, "overconfidence is a slow and insidious killer" moment.

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  • NamrokNamrok Registered User regular
    MW5: So I bought an Awesome. Because it's my favorite. And it's bit me in the ass on every mission I've taken it on. Because I'm still relatively early in the game, rep 6/7, and it sucks up all the tonnage. Then I'm sending my lancemates out in shit like Javalins and Jenners to get killed. Oh well. One day my Awesome will ride again.

  • BetsuniBetsuni Insert Disk 4 and Press Any Key to Continue Registered User regular
    Bethryn wrote: »
    Doing a Career mode playthrough of BattleTech, and I'm guessing that in the Campaign they disable or significantly lowered the chance of enemies randomly headshotting (presumably because you don't get access to cockpit mods with injury resistance until much later). I think I only had one or two people ever get the injury from headshots over a 60 hour playthrough in Campaign, but in Career I've played 10 hours and now have a roster of 7(8) MechWarriors out of necessity from how many of them spend 15 days a month nursing a bruise.

    Yeah it is really random. I've had lots of face tanking by my team and my own pilot has had 3 twice and only play Campaign for now.

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  • DocshiftyDocshifty Registered User regular
    Namrok wrote: »
    MW5: So I bought an Awesome. Because it's my favorite. And it's bit me in the ass on every mission I've taken it on. Because I'm still relatively early in the game, rep 6/7, and it sucks up all the tonnage. Then I'm sending my lancemates out in shit like Javalins and Jenners to get killed. Oh well. One day my Awesome will ride again.

    If it is the triple ppc variant dont worry. You can make up the difference in 500m headshots.

  • HeirHeir Registered User regular
    Huh, completely missed that there's a new DLC/expansion for Battletech. I see there are some new weapons. Any of them any good?

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  • OrcaOrca Registered User regular
    Heir wrote: »
    Huh, completely missed that there's a new DLC/expansion for Battletech. I see there are some new weapons. Any of them any good?

    They're devastatingly effective.

    Heavy Metal is basically "go ham with mechs and weapons! Have fun!" It trivializes the progression, but it's so much fun I don't really give a shit.

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  • SyngyneSyngyne Registered User regular
    The Argo is a Dropship, not a Jumpship.

    *pushes up nerd glasses*

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  • KayKay What we need... Is a little bit of PANIC.Registered User regular
    Triple PPC AWS is very fun to pilot, had a couple missions in one when co-opping in a friend's game. Nice pinpoint damage.

    I've been loving my CDA-X5, running 2x SRM4 and 2x ML. SRMs are just so GOOD in MW5. I want that dual PPC GHR, though.

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  • MirkelMirkel FinlandRegistered User regular
    Heir wrote: »
    Huh, completely missed that there's a new DLC/expansion for Battletech. I see there are some new weapons. Any of them any good?

    If you end up buying it and really want to turn the destruction up to 11 in a new career, remember to keep your pirate rep up so you can get cheap Black Market access. Easiest way to get the best versions of all the new toys.

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  • HydroSqueegeeHydroSqueegee ULTRACAT!!!™®© Registered User regular
    Kay wrote: »
    Triple PPC AWS is very fun to pilot, had a couple missions in one when co-opping in a friend's game. Nice pinpoint damage.

    I've been loving my CDA-X5, running 2x SRM4 and 2x ML. SRMs are just so GOOD in MW5. I want that dual PPC GHR, though.

    That 5P Grasshopper has become my main ride now. It's just amazing. 20 pinpoint damage down range. And the 4 MPL are amazing at carving up any location you hit close up.

    HOWEVER. I did have to save scum after making the mistake of giving it to a Lance mate. They got that fucker blown to pieces. I just kept hearing "component lost commander" far too often. Now it sits in the mech bay only to be piloted by me. Those double heat sinks and MPL are too valuable to risk getting shot to shit. I do like that aspect of the game. Makes the high tech stuff feel really important and it hurts to lose pieces of it.

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  • GoumindongGoumindong Registered User regular
    Please note that i did not do the legwork on the mechearrior 5 weapons spreadsheet. It just did some simple modifications so it was easier to scroll through.

    Someone else who i will credit appropriately when i am downstairs and can more easily look tthrough the last thread did

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  • MortiousMortious The Nightmare Begins Move to New ZealandRegistered User regular
    Battletech.

    So I picked up all the DLC and started playing this again since I never finished the campaign last time.

    So many new toys, but my favourite at the moment has to be the coil gun. I had a Coil-M on a Cicada, and and a Coil-L on a Pheonix Hawk it was absolutely hilarious. Now that I have a dragon I hae put both of them on that and while not as funny, is better heat management and use of mech slots.

    Does the mechwarrior talent that gives an extra evasion pip increase the damage from coil guns?

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  • OrcaOrca Registered User regular
    It’s only on sprint so unfortunately no.

  • MirkelMirkel FinlandRegistered User regular
    Orca wrote: »
    It’s only on sprint so unfortunately no.

    That's incorrect, Surefooted gives an extra pip on any movement. I think it does work with the coil guns but I'm not 100% sure. Easy to test though.

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  • manwiththemachinegunmanwiththemachinegun METAL GEAR?! Registered User regular
    edited December 2019
    I'm at the point of no return, I'm pretty proud of myself for a first run. Two pilots KIA and I haven't lost a single story mission yet, no walkthrough. Even the hard ones. I'll see if I can finish this in Ironman run fashion.
    Darius can shut up about bankruptcy, yes I know we only have 20k of spacebucks after that purchase! But I just got a second ++Gauss rifle. Big guns are more important!

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  • NipsNips Luxuriating in existential crisis.Registered User regular
    edited December 2019
    Mirkel wrote: »
    Orca wrote: »
    It’s only on sprint so unfortunately no.

    That's incorrect, Surefooted gives an extra pip on any movement. I think it does work with the coil guns but I'm not 100% sure. Easy to test though.

    It does, I leveraged it heavily early in this career I'm in.

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  • BethrynBethryn Registered User regular
    First time I've ever had a character die on me...
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    Yup, that's right. A headshot. More precisely, a weaponless Griffin that headbutted him in a dying act of spite.

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  • DarkewolfeDarkewolfe Registered User regular
    You gotta give it to the Griffin, then. They earned that one.

    What is this I don't even.
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  • RanlinRanlin Oh gosh Registered User regular
    No deaths yet but my very first pilot injury came from blowing the arms off of a Jagermech, so it ran over and kicked my Thunderbolt in the head.

    I'm sure mechanically it was headbutting it, but the animation it used was a kick/maybe stomp? whatever.

    I was impressed :P

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  • manwiththemachinegunmanwiththemachinegun METAL GEAR?! Registered User regular
    edited December 2019
    And... I immediately lost the ammo for my second Gauss rifle. :P And apparently it's nearly impossible to get that item to respawn, so I guess I'm doing the end game now!

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  • EchoEcho Moderator mod
    So I got MW5 and I suck at keeping my lasers on target for the duration. Need to twiddle with my mouse sensitivity.

    And dang my Jenner pilot sure keeps losing parts all over the solar system.

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    Let they who have not posted about their balls in the wrong thread cast the first stone.
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  • ErlkönigErlkönig Registered User regular
    Echo wrote: »
    So I got MW5 and I suck at keeping my lasers on target for the duration. Need to twiddle with my mouse sensitivity.

    And dang my Jenner pilot sure keeps losing parts all over the solar system.

    If you're still using Freeman (the pilot who came with the Jenner), that's your problem. He might show as having a max of 48 or so skill points, but that's a damn dirty lie. Freeman is who you use for when you want a mech to come back broken af. He is permanently benched because I can't trust him with any of my good weapons (like, even mid-tier gauss rifles, SRM6 with Artemis, and high tier ERPPCs are irreplaceable, and I know Freeman will lose anything he gets sent out with).

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  • NipsNips Luxuriating in existential crisis.Registered User regular
    edited December 2019
    @Nobody
    Added your updated info to the MWO OP!

    @Kaboodles_The_Assassin
    Added your link for the HOTAS stuff to the MW5 OP!

    @Goumindong
    Will correct once you point me in the right direction.

    PAPERWORK! I PUSHED IT!

    That's it, calling it for 2019. Phew, that was some work.

    :P

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  • MugsleyMugsley Registered User regular
    And... I immediately lost the ammo for my second Gauss rifle. :P And apparently it's nearly impossible to get that item to respawn, so I guess I'm doing the end game now!

    Honestly that's a reasonable edit to the game files. The Gauss ammo should be way more prevalent than it is.

  • manwiththemachinegunmanwiththemachinegun METAL GEAR?! Registered User regular
    edited December 2019
    Well, I did it. My first true Battletech campaign with no mission failures, no cheating. Or my PC getting blown up for that matter. As I said in the last thread, the game really does make you feel like a genius. Especially when you win with positioning and tactics and not just raw tonnage. Looking at some other Youtubers after the fact, I *almost* lost that defense mission with the APC base rush. It's stupid how far those things can move in a single turn. At the time, I didn't think anything of it, but I stomped one *just* one square away from the command center. Not many people get that right first time it seems.

    It was a bit touch and go in the last mission, Kamea took a salvo of advanced AC20s+++. She was at full health, but you never know.

    The final last stand mission before that though was pretty glorious. Highlights were my crew knee capping the assaults and letting the tanks and turrets finish them off, and my Warhammer outflanking a PPC Catapult and exploding it with one salvo. It was pure murder.

    Not often I say this, but once the DLC goes on sale, in the future, I'll probably do a full run with the DLC. And be keeping a close eye out for whenever the inevitable Clan sequel happens.

    And spoilered for bigness, but this was my Warhammer, there were many like it, but this one is mine. The second to last Red Shoulder.

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  • NamrokNamrok Registered User regular
    Echo wrote: »
    So I got MW5 and I suck at keeping my lasers on target for the duration. Need to twiddle with my mouse sensitivity.

    And dang my Jenner pilot sure keeps losing parts all over the solar system.

    I keep debating how much I want to stick with HOTAS for MW5. The difficulty seems more tuned to the accuracy of a mouse & keyboard. And my progress comes to a grinding hault with every campaign mission that ends in every single mech I take to the field getting exploded.

    Then again, I also have 20+ years continuous experience playing with mouse & keyboard. Far less with the specific control configuration Mechwarrior makes use of with a HOTAS.

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