[US Foreign Policy] Declare Victory and Come Home

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  • JaysonFourJaysonFour Classy Monster Kitteh Registered User regular
    Couscous wrote: »
    https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/21/world/middleeast/trump-iran-iraq-coronavirus-militas.html
    WASHINGTON — President Trump was getting ready to declare the coronavirus a “national emergency,” but inside the White House last Thursday, a tense debate erupted among the president and his top advisers on a far different subject: whether the United States should escalate military action against Iran, a longtime American rival that has been devastated by the epidemic.

    One group, including Secretary of State Mike Pompeo and Robert C. O’Brien, the national security adviser, urged a tough response to rocket attacks that had killed two American troops at a base north of Baghdad, arguing that tough action while Iran’s leaders were battling the coronavirus ravaging the country could finally push them into direct negotiations.

    But Defense Secretary Mark T. Esper and Gen. Mark A. Milley, the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, pushed back. The Pentagon and intelligence agencies did not have clear evidence that the attacks, launched by the Shiite militia group Khataib Hezbollah, had been ordered by Iran, they argued, and warned that a large-scale response could draw the United States into a wider war with Iran and rupture already strained relations with Iraq.

    The military’s position prevailed, at least for the time being. Mr. Trump authorized airstrikes against five militia weapons depots inside Iraq, carried out at night to limit the possible human toll.
    Because an epidemic causing huge problems in both countries is exactly the right time to launch offensive actions.

    Just... no words. No fucking words at all.

    I'm just done with this administration. Just fucking done with it. Pandemic's ravaging the world, and now Donnie wants to use it to score fucking political points against the Iranians instead of investing time and effort against corona.

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  • Captain InertiaCaptain Inertia Registered User regular
    Seriously wait a month and Iran’s leadership might look a lot different

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  • MayabirdMayabird Pecking at the keyboardRegistered User regular
    Wait a month and the US's leadership might look a lot different.

    Actually a lot of countries when you get down to it.

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  • GaddezGaddez Registered User regular
    So in other ridiculous news:
    https://cnn.com/2020/03/21/politics/north-korea-trump/index.html
    (CNN)North Korea said President Donald Trump sent Kim Jong Un a personal letter in which he expressed his willingness to help with "anti-epidemic work," according to the state-run Korean Central News Agency early Sunday."

    In the letter, Trump "explained his plan to propel the relations between the two countries of the DPRK and the U.S. and expressed his intent to render cooperation in the anti-epidemic work, saying that he was impressed by the efforts made by the Chairman to defend his people from the serious threat of the epidemic," according to a statement from Kim Yo Jong, Kim's younger sister and first vice department director for WPK Central Committee, as reported by KCNA.
    She also praised Trump's move as "good judgment and proper action" toward retaining a good relationship with the hermit nation at a time with what she referred to as "big difficulties and challenges."
    "We regard it as a good judgment and proper action for the U.S. president to make efforts to keep the good relations he had with our Chairman by sending a personal letter again at a time as now when big difficulties and challenges lie in the way of developing the bilateral relations, and think that this should be highly estimated," she said.

    Now, don't get me wrong: helping NK to deal with the pandemic is a good idea for both medical reasons and diplomatic ones, but of all the countries on earth that can concievably do anything to help someone else america is presently a ways down the list.

    Richy wrote: »
    But I think the resistance I’m getting more has to do with “rawr! Loklar said it! Rage!” than anything else.

    No, it has to do with the fact that you're done nothing but throw lies, blatant flasehoods, and downright dumb statements at us so far.
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  • JaysonFourJaysonFour Classy Monster Kitteh Registered User regular
    Gaddez wrote: »
    So in other ridiculous news:
    https://cnn.com/2020/03/21/politics/north-korea-trump/index.html
    (CNN)North Korea said President Donald Trump sent Kim Jong Un a personal letter in which he expressed his willingness to help with "anti-epidemic work," according to the state-run Korean Central News Agency early Sunday."

    In the letter, Trump "explained his plan to propel the relations between the two countries of the DPRK and the U.S. and expressed his intent to render cooperation in the anti-epidemic work, saying that he was impressed by the efforts made by the Chairman to defend his people from the serious threat of the epidemic," according to a statement from Kim Yo Jong, Kim's younger sister and first vice department director for WPK Central Committee, as reported by KCNA.
    She also praised Trump's move as "good judgment and proper action" toward retaining a good relationship with the hermit nation at a time with what she referred to as "big difficulties and challenges."
    "We regard it as a good judgment and proper action for the U.S. president to make efforts to keep the good relations he had with our Chairman by sending a personal letter again at a time as now when big difficulties and challenges lie in the way of developing the bilateral relations, and think that this should be highly estimated," she said.

    Now, don't get me wrong: helping NK to deal with the pandemic is a good idea for both medical reasons and diplomatic ones, but of all the countries on earth that can concievably do anything to help someone else america is presently a ways down the list.

    Whee, things are falling apart all around him and Trumpy the Clown has to wave his tiny wang around and try to score points with dictators still.

    What a disgrace.

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  • KarozKaroz Registered User regular
    edited March 26

    U.S. Indicts Venezuela’s Maduro on Drug-Trafficking Charges With $15 Million Reward

    Huh.

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  • KrieghundKrieghund Registered User regular
    Panama 2.0?

  • monikermoniker Registered User regular
    Karoz wrote: »

    U.S. Indicts Venezuela’s Maduro on Drug-Trafficking Charges With $15 Million Reward

    Huh.

    So he's Reagan's heir?

  • ArbitraryDescriptorArbitraryDescriptor Registered User regular
    Karoz wrote: »

    U.S. Indicts Venezuela’s Maduro on Drug-Trafficking Charges With $15 Million Reward

    Huh.

    Has Venezuela responded that, for reasons of national security, their Office of Counsel Legal has determined that the president cannot be charged with a crime while in office, and apologized for the inconvenience of any crimes their president is alleged to: have to committed, be in the process of commiting, or be planning to commit in the future?

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  • GaddezGaddez Registered User regular
    Jragghen wrote: »

    It's almost like when you treat everyone who is your ally like shit, drag your feet on dealing with the worst viral outbreak in a hundred years and keep screaming AMERiCA FIRST until your eyes are bulging out of your head it undermines the standing of your country and casues everyone else to reconsider their options.

    Richy wrote: »
    But I think the resistance I’m getting more has to do with “rawr! Loklar said it! Rage!” than anything else.

    No, it has to do with the fact that you're done nothing but throw lies, blatant flasehoods, and downright dumb statements at us so far.
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  • Giggles_FunsworthGiggles_Funsworth Paranoiac Bay Area SprawlRegistered User regular
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    Karoz wrote: »

    U.S. Indicts Venezuela’s Maduro on Drug-Trafficking Charges With $15 Million Reward

    Huh.

    LOOK OVER THERE!!!

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  • TryCatcherTryCatcher Registered User regular
    edited March 27
    Barr answered some questions in a press conference, found this helpful Twitter account that picked some of them.

    And Univison reminds people that Maduro is not recognized as a head of state, so is ok:


    Finally, here's the official record with the opening and closing remarks of Barr's press conference.

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  • Captain InertiaCaptain Inertia Registered User regular
    TryCatcher wrote: »
    Barr answered some questions in a press conference, found this helpful Twitter account that picked some of them.

    And Univison reminds people that Maduro is not recognized as a head of state, so is ok:


    Finally, here's the official record with the opening and closing remarks of Barr's press conference.

    And they apprehend him how...?

  • Some sort of disastrous commando raid would liven up an otherwise dull newscape

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  • TryCatcherTryCatcher Registered User regular
    TryCatcher wrote: »
    Barr answered some questions in a press conference, found this helpful Twitter account that picked some of them.

    And Univison reminds people that Maduro is not recognized as a head of state, so is ok:


    Finally, here's the official record with the opening and closing remarks of Barr's press conference.

    And they apprehend him how...?

    Well, a an official charge for drug trafficking against Noriega was a previous step before Operation Just Cause.

    Just saying.

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  • Santa ClaustrophobiaSanta Claustrophobia Ho Ho Ho Disconnecting from Xbox LIVERegistered User regular
    TryCatcher wrote: »
    TryCatcher wrote: »
    Barr answered some questions in a press conference, found this helpful Twitter account that picked some of them.

    And Univison reminds people that Maduro is not recognized as a head of state, so is ok:


    Finally, here's the official record with the opening and closing remarks of Barr's press conference.

    And they apprehend him how...?

    Well, a an official charge for drug trafficking against Noriega was a previous step before Operation Just Cause.

    Just saying.

    So...Operation Just Because?

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  • ArbitraryDescriptorArbitraryDescriptor Registered User regular
    TryCatcher wrote: »
    Barr answered some questions in a press conference, found this helpful Twitter account that picked some of them.

    And Univison reminds people that Maduro is not recognized as a head of state, so is ok:


    Finally, here's the official record with the opening and closing remarks of Barr's press conference.

    And they apprehend him how...?

    I assumed that's where the 15 million dollar bounty comes in.

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  • I ZimbraI Zimbra Colorful Extrovert Registered User regular
    Jesus fucking Christ, I feel like an exasperated parent. "We don't need any more coups. You begged and pleaded for that coup in Bolivia and now you don't even play with it anymore"

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